Alpha's N.Y. Debate watchers live Blog
Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 7:56pm
Hi guys!
I am gonna be watching the debate and post comments and such on here and hope you join me.
If you are unable to watch it on TV CNN will be streaming it for free
I look forward to watching it with you all! 
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and they are letter her
unreal!
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you can see now why her supporters at TOP like her so much
they're just like her - nasty, fabricators, smug, overbearing
I hear that! I still try to go there as a show of support in the
positive Sanders diaries, but they are so god damned obnoxious it's getting harder and harder.
The same group seems to have a need to shit in any Sanders diary in the first couple of posts...
It's soooo damn annoying that Kos only enforces his edict against one side...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
not healthy IMHO
Chock that up as one of my many bad habits that I should quit...
I have a bunch of them, but that one is gonna get easier and easier.
Particularly if Clinton wins the Nom. I doubt I would be able to go there, the cheer-leading and anti-free thought police will be running rampant.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Hillary doesn't seem to realize that there is a difference
between "Insurance Coverage" and universal healthcare are NOT the same thing....
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Hillary's been PAID
....... to refuse to acknowledge the difference between "Insurance Coverage" and universal healthcare!
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The exact difference
is usually known as "the profit motive." Some of us are so damn naive we don't believe human suffering ought to be a profit center.
Hillary tries to claim that his health plane would be
a terrible one, without any specifics...
Bernie CREAMS her non answer, crowd is very enthusiastic when he asks her, "Why can every other country do it and we can't?" "Canada has it, they ain't no communist crazy nation, they are 50 miles from me!"
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
In fairness to Hillary...
...I agree that healthcare planes are a terrible idea.
LoL! Yeah. They cram you onto stretchers designed for elfs...
and you only get fed nuts and water...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
She keeps saying she supports universal health care coverage
I.E. A gimmie to the health insurance companies bigger than it already is...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
She wants to build upon Obamacare.
She'll do this by getting everyone to 100% coverage, a proposal that can only thrill health insurance companies.
If she wanted to improve Obamacare, she would propose throwing out the middle man.
Hillary's slogan.
She should have a slogan that says, "Yes, I can/will. No, you can't/won't." As in, "Yes, I will be president. No, you won't get free college or single-payer healthcare."
The Clinton '16 theme song:
"there's something so especially sadistic about waving the flag of a country that you're actively destroying" -- Aaron Mate
She cannot even answer a simple....
YES or NO question...
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Hillary on social security
Are you prepared to lift the cap on social security:
Says that is one way, but there are other ways, hasn't said she would implement one or not implement one.
Runs out clock talking about the history of social security, blah blah blah.
"Interesting comment, but you didn't answer the question, but essentially what you described is my legislation!"
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Hillary has no manners and talks over all the people
Bernie gets angry about her healthcare talk and she continues talking about Obama and affordable care act. Listen Lady, we want single payer medicare-style healthcare and nothing else. Would you please listen and shut up. Oh my, she is really getting really on my nerves. Have to get outta here.
I'm so pleased
he's doing well. My brother asked me why she irritates him. I said liars are irritating.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Hillary claims to support it, crowd rumbles...
Redirects to social security trust fund.
Bernie, "You are finally coming out on lifting the tax on nontaxable income? Congratulations! welcome aboard!!"
Crowd goes crazy again!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Bernie mocks her, what a delight
I can't figure if the crowd is in disagreement with her or not.
she gets booed and now she strikes back lowly /nt
Sanders calls her back to answer, she hedges, crowd boo's!
She calls Sanders out and redirects to insinuate that Sanders is an "Establishment crazy nutjub".
More boo's
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
deflecting again this time its the republicans
are you for lifting the cap on taxable income she says he's picking on her
If she can't handle Bernie
How can she handle Trump?
Bernie should really say that out loud in further debates
something to the effect of "if you can't handle me how can you handle Trump IF you make it to the general election?" or "to get to Trump you have to go through me first."
Correct me if I am wrong, but has Sanders gotten no boo's?
and they have all been at Clinton?
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
he people start to mutter and Bernie contradicts her and gets
loud applause
Hillary tries to paint herself as the only candiate
that supports womens rights, gets loud ovation so keeps running with it and tries to turn it into an attack on Sanders.
"I have a 100% pro choice voting record, I will take on Gov's that try to prevent women's right to choose"
"We gotta expand funding to planned parenthood"
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
They are bringing up Clinton saying He isn't a democrat...
"Then why am I running for president on the democratic ticket?"
He brings up his appeal to independents, says it makes him more electeable and that he want's to open up the party to young people.
He did a great job but should have brought up that he has a better voting record of voting with the democrats than many democrats.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
independents and young people don't like you hillary
Hell, I'm an old Democrat
and I don't like her!
Twain Disciple
Moderator says "You haven't helped the Democratic party raise
money"
Bernie tells her she is wrong and he has help raise millions and his movement will continue to do so without relying on wall street and big money, crowd chants BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! (summary of what he said.)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Listen to that crowd!!! n/t
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Really?
I'm reading these threads (and taking tests, so I'm not watching/listening to the TV or the livestream) and I'm thinkin' he's kicking her ass. So naturally, tomorrow's narrative will be all about how Mean Old Bernie picked on Her Ladyship (cough).
Oh, and no namecalling on her part, though!
Hillary "I got more votes than Sanders, neener-neener-neener"
I got's me a coalition...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
$27 dollars time to go to actblue
Good idea - I just did $27 too
Every time Hillary pisses me off I give what I can. She's raised a lot of money for Bernie.
I do mine in amounts that end in $4.20
for his stance on ending Cannabis prohibition.
Tonight he is getting $14.20. Wish I could afford more.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I gave up about 40 minutes ago but...
we can especially tell when she's lying (she might as well say so!) when she says "well it's true!"
They keep letting Hillary talk over and get the last word
and stops Sanders from responding.
He admit's "We got murdered there" (the South)
Cue Fauxrage from the Clintonites at TOP in 3. 2. 1...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
HA!
OMG, I can just hear it.
What is this woman like at cocktail parties, do ya suppose?
I believe we are gonna win this nomination
hell yeah!
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Secratary Clinton -
YOU will, to use YOUR words... NEVER, EVER unite the Democratic party...
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after tonight
the Brooklyn Dodgers take the pennant!!!
its a WHOLE NEW BALLGAME!!!!
If you do not understand that being part of the "establishment" is a slur in the minds of 99% of the U.S. population then you are completely out of touch and probably are one.
Hillary "I got more pledged Delegates, Neener-neener-neener"
She is so damn pathetic...
I hope they file charges on her ass and she has to do a perp walk over the email situation (It's rumor of course, but a buddy from my law enforcement days was insinuating that things are much more significant than the press or anyone is thinking.
Sorry, I got derailed, she just makes me that annoyed with her Doublespeak and outright B.S. insinuations.
We need to push to have at least the Dems reinstate the League of Women voters for our debates at least. They did a great, fair job...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
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thank you fer being here, Alpha--I'm out
GO BERNIE!
Thanks for joining us!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Oh damn,
she's going full 9/11.
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Oh, didn't you know?
She tweeted about Bernie's "support" for gun manufacturers, while invoking the victims of Newtown or another mass shooting.
Wow... Just.... Fucking wow....
She really is a dispicable human being.
I am more and more convinced she is a Sociopath
When I saw this video my blood went cold... That cackle after what she said? Man, it was just soooo disturbing.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM]
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Sandy Hook is all Bernie's fault! Because Vermont.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
She went full Palin the other day.
I know I couldn't post this clip at GOS, but every time someone says someone went "Full XXX" I have this scene flash through my mind...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q]
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Barriers?
Pot, meet kettle.
Closing statements.
Bernie "I grew up in Brooklyn, NY the son of an immigrant" proceeds to do a great summary of the difference between him and clinton on taking money from special interests.
Gives inspiring closer, if we unite, we can achieve, healthcare, combat climate change, etc. etc. crowd is going crazy, he keeps going says "We are gonna WIN NY" crowd is chanting Bernie at an unbelievable level!
Clinton Responds in a very down tone, like she is on valium. Brings up her time as a senator, and that you voted for me before, I had your back, you had mine, brings up 9/11, multiple times, finally gets some applause for mentioning the responders.
Her crowd is very quite, you can see where she stopped for pre-designed applause breaks and there was just silence.
They were so subdued during her closings, even when she got applause it was kinda faint.
She got some cheers at the end, but it was kinda underwhelming IMO
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Damn now I feel kinda bad for her
It kills me that I can't help but feel empathy for people who so don't deserve it. I always had to fight my empathy for bush too. But don't worry, I won't lose sleep over it!
That's what makes someone a good person...
And you are obviously much more of a good person than I.
I welcome her discomfort with a disturbing level of Schadenfreude. (Only the Germans could come up with such a great single world to describe that feeling.)
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA]
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I really really love that song. :)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Pregnant pauses.
Y'know that's kinda funny.
Both E and I were "Immigrants' kids" (from Eastern Europe) too, but these days "immigrant" has a different, more sinister, and far less appealing connotation.
So we don't say that very much any more.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
Y'know that's kinda funny.
Both E and I were "Immigrants' kids" (from Eastern Europe) too, but these days "immigrant" has a different, more sinister, and far less appealing connotation.
So we don't say that very much any more.
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.
ok, that was Hillary the long distance talker trying to win
against Bernie the long distance runner. Running beats talking.
All I will remember from this debate is Hilly the Bully Long Distance Talker pissing Bernie the Long Distance Runner off by throwing oily word salad on him to make him glitch and stumble.
Ok, Bernie's last statement was very good. Lots of applause.
Ok, Hillary's last statement is another very somber faily tale. A no go. Oh, CNN cut off her last statement short. What a glitch.
We should ask the mods if there is a way to add polls
I would love to know how well everyone thinks Sanders performance was.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
my answer would be
Hillary's performance was so awful, that Sanders by default had the better one.
Oh, and now the start whinging about the "bad tone in this debate" and of course it's Bernie is at fault. Pathetic.
Looks like embedded code works!
I made this on poll-maker.com
Hmmm. Not working when I click vote.
Does it work for anyone else?
Scratch that. Working now.
Awesome bro! I was thinking more of a
Rate Sanders performance on a scale of 1-10.
I may have to see if I can set something like that up in advance for the next debate watchers thread. Thanks so much for sharing that with us!
Kudos to you Brother!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Yeah, I didn't want to steal your thunder.
I thought maybe you'd want to write a new post-debate essay with a poll.
P.S Love the look. All the cool people look like that. ;)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
LMAO!
can I vote multiple times?
I voted in the thread, now to see if I can vote in the reply. So far it's 100% Bernie.
Yeah I think we can vote as often as we like. Won't change the percentage.
Who are the two people who voted for Clinton?
As a Canadian viewer, I learned here that Clinton's followers are mean and obnoxious but what would happen here if someone came forward and said they were voting for Clinton?
For me, she has some qualities, like endurance. She endured her husband for a lifetime and she endures campaigning. Other than that she lies like most politicians. Bernie is a new breed of politician who plays it straight. I think if he should win and I sure hope that he does, it will open up a new era in politics.
To thine own self be true.
Anyone can support whoever they support here
Not all Clinton supporters are mean, you have to forgive us, a lot of us have Gos PTSD where we were treated obnoxiously so we are a little or a lot biased. There are undoubtedly many perfectly nice Clinton supporters and if they were willing to discuss the issues and her policies they would be welcome here like anyone else.
But they would have to be able to discuss the issues and not just pretend they don't exist.
I was a Hillary supporter before Bernie became known to me and before I really got to know more about hillary's past votes and actions.
She does have some qualities.
Unfortunately so few of them have moral properties!
"there's something so especially sadistic about waving the flag of a country that you're actively destroying" -- Aaron Mate
the applause was for the responders not for hillary
Valid point...
I think it was kinda telling that she got boo'ed so many times and he got none.
That was pretty incredible difference.
You could easily tell the excitement difference in the room. I Think Bernie kicked ass and really won the debate tonight but I will bet you Dollars to donuts that most MSM will say it was an "Equal Performance" or some variable.
I hope he keeps hammering those speech transcripts. Her unwillingness to bring them out is in itself quite damning.
Wouldn't it be great if one of the hackers that hacked her servers released them?
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
The FBI has the servers
And I don't believe they are connected to any network. Be more curious to see what a hack of her campaign servers and the DNC and the Super Pacs that are clearly coordinating with her campaign would show, however.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
I thought there were indicators it was hacked before they seized
the servers?
I could be mistaken, it isn't a subject I have followed with any depth.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
The best part comes after...
When the applause stops for the responders, you could hear the crowd chanting "Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!" so loud that CNN had to cut the mic off and go to what sounded like a microphone taped to the inside of Wolf Blitzer's mouth to drown out the noise.
"The voice of passion is better than the voice of reason. The passionless cannot change history." ~ Czesław Miłosz
the young turks are commenting on the debate
https://www.tytnetwork.com/live/
Thank you, Alphalop!
Thank you for creating this tonight and watching the entire debate! I got on late then went to watch it online (not live). Within 20 seconds my heart rate shot up because she was speaking and taking more than her share of time. Loved, loved, loved Bernie and the crowd supporting him. He won the debate from what I heard instead of saw.
Thanks again! Great job!
Thanks so much for the kind words and support!
I really enjoy doing it and hope to get better as I do more.
This is all kinda new to me to be honest.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
night
TYT "Sanders overtakes Hillary on June 6th"
and on those hopeful words, I will bid you folks a good night.
Today is the one day a week she doesn't have to Intern at the one hospital or Work at the other and she was kind enough to let me join you for a few.
Have an excellent evening and keep feeling the BERN!!!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Missed the debate...
Had other obligations in the first hour and blew off the second for the premiere of season 4 of Orphan Black, and really not motivated to watch any of the rebroadcast of the thing. So I thank you for this liveblog, as I can get a blow-by-blow/play-by-play description of the event.
(Seriously, if there are any fellow nerds out there, the season 4 premiere was fucking amazing! Hope you recorded it for later viewing!)
"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it."
-- John Lennon
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Awesome show and you have amazing taste
Thanks, as do you....
Mmmmmmm waffles.....
"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it."
-- John Lennon
I missed the debate also
But I read every comment here and got a great sense of how it went. I cannot thank Alphalop and everyone else who participated in this live thread for giving folks like me a very well defined picture of what transpired last night. Alpha, you do a great job of hosting these live blogs.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
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