Saturday Open Thread - 11/16/24: Odds and Ends
Good morning, good people!
Well, another week of trying to figure out all these Trump appointees and what they will do that's good or bad. My POV is they will do as they are told to do by Deep State, as always. Still, I have foolishly devoted hours of my waking moments speculating, which is exactly was Deep Stated planned.
I smell a rat.
This leads me to my latest case about which local attorneys will be discussing forevermore.
My client, a young man in a divorce/custody fight over his 2 kids, got romantically involved with a divorcing/custody fighting woman with 3 kids. Their respective spouses got together romantically, and the war is declared. What witness could tip the scales?
My client moved in with his g/f, and gf and her kids live with her rich Dad in his house.
Dad got angry with my client and his daughter, decided to help their respective spouses win their cases.
He testified at a hearing involving my client. It went something like this:
"My daughter and her bf ignore their kids. Bf likes rats. Sort of praises them as God's creatures. When I discovered his autistic child eating rat feces, Bf and my daughter laughed."
The only question I had about rat shit was why, if the man was so worried and upset, an exterminator was never called? Answer: I didn't think of that.
Several attorneys heard this. I guess I will be asked about how this case turned out forevermore. The Rat Shit Case.
It is way more likely the public worships the rats in politics as their God-sent Saviors than my client worships the rats in the kitchen.
I am watching this as I write on Friday night. A Nixon/Ritter assessment on Trump's appointees, because I want to keep wondering about it, wonder if the Deep State's plan has some reveals.
Does anyone besides me think some big attack by somebody on somebody else in the ME will happen before Biden goes bye bye?
I hope you will bring your opinion and ideas to the comments. We care about them and in an open thread, all topics are really cool beans, friends!
Let 'er rip!
Comments
Happy Saturday, good people!
I meant to stick a shopping sticker shock experience in the essay, but I will do it here.
Last Sunday, I stocked up on toilet paper and paper towels for my office kitchen and two bathrooms.
Walmart brand paper towels, two 12-roll packs, two 12-roll Angel Soft packs. Please, sit for this: $76.00.
No wonder we are poor!
Your turn, friends!
edit: two 24-roll packs of tp. Both products are specialty items for cleaning up rat shit.
second edit post coffee consumption: two 36-roll packs of tp. Confirmed excellence for rat shit cleaning.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good day mate
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Your TP investment must have been a specialty item
marketed for rat poo? And the towels for soaking up
the crazy river
thanks for the OT!
question everything
Cool song, cap'n!
I am going to shop for groceries and such this afternoon. It will be as interesting as it is to meet needs.
We looked at a house for sale. A deal. If it sounds too good to be true, it isn't true. It was a dump. It used to be nice, but to my surprise, the once nice house next door is empty and falling down, and an illegal had built a house in front of it, then abandoned it. The illegal was said to be on the violent side. Soon, another illegal will come and use it for a secluded safe house. Unlike other states, Texas is endangered by the open border. Just a couple of weeks ago, an illegal was busted for hauling over 200 lbs of marijuana. The pot was grown and the arrest made about 15 miles from my home. At least it wasn't a cache of meth or fentanyl. This time, anyway.
Have some fun this weekend, my friend!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Sounds about right
Best rat traps by the way:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tomcat+rat+trap
We had very good results. What I like about it is that it is humane in that it immediately snaps the rats neck. I have seen rats trapped in glue and horrible suffering on their part. We have in our large yard rats but my wife says let them be, and hawks/owls nearby hunt them. If they get into house, then war.
Sounds about right about
I am glad I am not alone in hating rats, but completely unable to bring about their suffering. I can't even handle removing them from the neck break traps. I use tomkat brand, and it definitely gets the job done in an instant.
Until someone proves to me rats are knowingly and intentionally evil, I will consider them worthy of a quick death.
At the end of the day, "ass wipe" is only a true insult if it is clearly of the convenience store grade.
Have a great weekend, friend!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
@MrWebster We had very good
Must be the year of the Rat. Purchased one of those traps and a couple other types as we had some visitors. The fancy snappy deal disappeared after a fashion. Took me weeks to find where it ended up.
No neck snapped there. On the other hand, rats are the best of pets. Except they only live 1000 days.
When you get to know a rat and coexist, it is absolutely heart breaking to lose them.
I would tell you how they act at the end, but the tears...
we have nothing on rats other than longevity and meanness.
Good morning...
A beautiful day here. It was a cool 45F this AM and trade day was sparse. Headed to the mid 60's on this sunny fall day.
I'm expecting some sort of sabotage before Biden leaves office. I'm not sure what mode it will take. Could be escalation in the ME, but might be something else. Just as with Russiagate in 2016, TPTB will try to undermine Trump 2.0 in some manner.
I expected the reverse to be true, but...
Should provide some entertainment as the empire collapses around us. Have a great Saturday. Thanks for the OT!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Hey, LO!
The sabotage is an absolute guarantee, the nail-biter aspect is the "how?"
The FBI and CIA constantly turn their sights on a politician or alt media person, and there is no telling how much we 99%ers are being surveilled all day long. I have been chatting on my cell phone, saying good bye to whomever I am chatting with, and always give a shout out to the NSA agent who is no doubt listening in, and apologizing there was no porn involved.
Have a fun weekend, dear friend!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
On a couple of far east legal issues
Glad to see the views of these Chinese international law experts clearly expressed in English, in terms that western lawyers and media should understand but will likely ignore. I wrote some posts a few years ago basically expressing the same opinion outlined below after reading the UN Convention on the law of the Sea a few times, and reviewing a few legal articles and reports on the same topic. This kind of review never made it into US media. Frankly China could have done a better job making their legal views known in English language media. Glad they published this on line. Below are just a couple of excerpts from one opinion that I think makes the legal argument of why the PCA UNCLOS opinion is void ab initio, both for procedural and substantive reasons.
Chinese Experts on the Situation of the South China Sea
(naturally, I'm claiming the fair use exception to the copyright)
On another major legal development in South Korea
Democratic Party leader and National Assembly Representative Lee Jae-myung was found guilty by the trial court after his first trial on charges of a campaign law violation lying about material facts during an election campaign. The charges of lying go back to circumstances surrounding the Daejongdong development scandal, aka the Hwacheon Daeyoo scandal, concerning land use change applications for the Baekhyungdong development, etc. The representations concern whether he was lying when he said he didn't know and didn't have a private relationship with Kim Moon-ki a lower level employee involved in project negotiations between Seongnam and Hwacheon Daeyoo. Lee had been mayor of Seongnam and later governor of Gyeonggido when the alleged misrepresentations were made.
There are a multitude of strange circumstances concerning the multiplicity of charges and specifications against Lee. There are four parallel charges being processed in two separate trial litigation proceedures. Covering all of these at once is too difficult, and I don't think, anyone has mastered the overview of these processes yet, except perhaps Lee himself and his defense attorney. On this particular charge involving the alleged campaign law violations, 4 specs of the same charge the trial involved the following irregularities as I understand it:
1. The Chief Judge in the case where three judges preside, resigned without explanation after presiding for 17 months during the litigation. Yoon was found just before his presidential campaign to have conducted unlawful investigations of sitting judges and was suspended from his duties as Prosecutor General for doing so. It's fairly plain what his motive was. Yoon resigned from that office and began running for president rather than face the suspension. The highest court of appeal to review the findings and ruling of the Disciplinary Committee were found to be justified and legally correct.
2. The Senior prosecutor in the case is assigned from outside the courts jurisdiction in violation of government regulations governing prosecution personnel assignments.
3. Two witnesses to material facts in the case, including the principal, Kim Moon-ki, whom Lee is accused of using for personal gain and lying about, have committed suicide. This development suggests that their statements were being coerced not only against them but by prosecution threats against their loved ones.
4. A picture of Lee in a group of four including Kim Moon-ki, at a golf course, is altered from a group photo including 20 employees who were working on the development project.
5. Testimony from Lee at a legislative audit in the National Assembly was used "to prove his guilt" when such testimony is barred by law from use in prosecutions not brought by the National Assembly itself.
6. A few days earlier, the parallel conviction of Lee's wife in a separate prosecution for hosting a meal with three gubernatorial staff members and three wives of national assembly members and paying for it with a governor's office expense account credit card in the amount of approximately 80 dollars (for six people) was charged as a "campaign law violation." Lee's wife didn't make the payment her staff did without her knowledge. She reimbursed the payment when she was notified it was improper. This is an example of the petty political vindictiveness and motivation behind these accusations against Lee. He has been dogged by this sort of criminal litigation for years and been acquitted in the past.
The judge sentenced Lee to one year in prison suspended for two years of probation. The judge wouldn't dare put him in prison in the current political climate. The popular reaction would rock the Yoon administration. If ultimately found guilty upon review, Lee would be disqualified from holding public office for five years which would eliminate him from campaigning again for the office of president. He is currently South Korea's most popular leader and most likely candidate for presidential office.
Lee has a second trial and a final appeal available to challenge the trial court's ruling which is considered outrageous by the opposition which is a majority party in South Korea. He also faces a separate trial on other charges. Lee gave a rousing speech at a large demonstration today in Gwanghwamun plaza which took place despite pouring rain. The demonstration was in support of a third bill passed by the National Assembly to investigate the "empress" Kim Gon-hee, first lady. The prior two bills were vetoed by Yoon and this bill will face the same outcome. The organizers must have gotten their permit before the right wing opposition demonstrators which took place nearby with the usual quasi military, taegukki, types waving American flags. 1000 police were mobilized to prevent conflicts between the two groups.
This is all just my interpretation of recent South Korean independent media reports and analysis online. I could have misinterpreted something, or made an isolated mistake, conflating one trial procedure with another. I don't think it would change the substance of what's happening. Yoon is clearly running the "dictatorship of prosecutors."
This is another Yoon/Kim Gon-hee brewing scandal.
Central figures in alleged nomination-rigging scandal arrested, investigation likely to snowball
Myung has threatened to implicate Yoon and the First Lady mostly as a bargaining position with the prosecution, but I've heard that threat before from others and not seen meaningful results.
Finally, I would like to say, that Yoon had made enormous concessions to the Biden administration, diplomatically and economically, functioning essentially as a US puppet. His concessions to Japan, acquiescence to US demands not to trade high tech items with China, suffering from the US-China lithium battery battle, making huge capital investments in the US, etc. All this is feared to have been for naught with Trump coming into office, who no doubt, will make further transactional and alliance demands well beyond those concessions already made by Yoon.
Thanks for the O&E Onthecusp. Trying to settle down after a very rough week. Dreamed that I was welcomed by Smokey overjoyed to see me, running back and forth in a new home.
語必忠信 行必正直
Lawfare here,
That was a lucid and understandable Chinese position on maritime law.
For Smokey:
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
thanks OTC
I remember this audition. I had to look up the lyrics. It's a great tune.
語必忠信 行必正直
Punditry
I was planning to write a screed called "punditry." Starting with a mea culpa about how my own 24 year message board addiction has been one long adventure in punditry, trying to predict the future. It would have run to maybe a dozen windy paragraphs, but it would not add up to anything more that what OTC put into this passage.
Specifically, I don't believe Cabinet members are any different from the President in terms of actual, personal authority and effective power. As multiple governmental employees at the local, state and Federal levels have said to me in my union lawyer career, "Politicians do not run the government."
I never call the actual leaders of out global empire, "The Deep State." That is a poison pill expression, like "conspiracy theory" pushed hard by the people the term describes to discredit their critics. I call it the Permanent Government.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
I do use the term "Deep State"
Of late, it has come to mean the government non-elected bureaucrats. For an example, we currently have a numb nut President who likely needs help wiping himself, supposedly in charge. That is bs.
But it is plain as day the ship continues to sail.
Thanks for your input. I will either change my wording or use some qualifier.
I am a better person, friend!!! Improving my communications skills is always a goal!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
If Gaetz does get in
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I hope he investigates the Jan 6 false flag and the draconian prison policies that deprived people of their due process rights. Many of them have been detained for years without trial and denied access to many things.
Who made the decision to do this and to charge people in excess of what they actually did? Misdemeanor trespassing is what many should have been charged with, but most have been charged with felonies. Even people who didn’t enter the capital have been charged.
And Pelosi’s role in setting the whole thing up needs to be exposed. Was it done so republicans had to certify the election? Some say yes.
Ritter's take on Gaetz
https://scottritter.substack.com/p/why-matt-gaetz-matters?utm_source=pos...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Am very uncomfortable with
Ritter's take. Never a good idea to empower those seeking revenge to clear up a real or perceived problem/issue.
I believe that
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
One can believe all those things --
and mostly I do as well -- but that's short of empowering those that are or feel personally aggrieved in the position of exacting revenge. That is contrary to modern justice systems. Victims and those related to victims of whatever are never seated as jurors.
I feel personally aggrieved
The smear campaign goes on and on, and must be stopped now for the past and current victims, and prevention of future victims. Lawfare should not be a common way of life.
It is one thing to act upon a feeling of revenge, and another to know first-hand what it is like to be the victim of abusing lawfare.
I will never have any sympathy or respect for the perpetrators. They brought this pay back upon themselves.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Aaron discusses this at the end of the video
At around 25 minutes
Aren’t you wondering why….
if Tulsi Gabbard was actually a Russian asset or taking orders from Putin why she is still a Loot Cornel in the army and she hasn’t had her security clearance taken away?
Do shitlibs even know of her credentials and military background?
Heh…the Bobby Kennedy lawsuit against a Kos member that kos got involved in really hurt his site economically and one of the reasons he had to fire most of his longtime staff. I imagine a lawsuit by Tulsi against the site might put it under ground. The accusations against her are flying right and left…
Cool idea!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
layers and layers of lawyers
well connected
sounds like a J Buffet song
good luck
question everything
How in hell did the gummint
Worse, I do not recall a single conviction being reversed on appeal.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I try not to play Nostradamus but one should at least
consider why folks strive for power, especially governmental power and what it is that the oligarchs are likely to desire. Addressing only the latter question, I suggest
dismantling or further capturing regulatory agencies and revoking regulations
privatizing public services
knee-capping organized labor
reducing residual "welfare" and privatizing the remnant *
reducing and privatizing social security *
corporate welfare via assorted plum contracts and programs
* this is done by providing the benefits via debit card from selected banks
None of this is particularly new, but could very well be more blatant.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Hey, el!
Politicians are people who adore/crave attention and the power of being in the spotlight, and all they actually do is get shitty rich being completely controlled, whereas the rest of us are impoverished and controlled in the dark.
What I have always said is that Republicans never step out of the oligarchical lines and they never surprise me. It is always the goose stepping Democrats that manage to shock me when they fall in line. I just can't seem to get adjusted to that reality.
Hope your chores are not overwhelming, friend.
My chores is to wash some dishes, then turn over the kitchen to the Master Chef, wait for him to tell me dinner is ready. Pretty sweet, eh?
Have a good one!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
So why did Israel pause the slaughter for polio vaxxes?
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Link
The supposed polio outbreak is a vaccine induced outbreak that came from Egypt before October 7. The kids are getting the nasal vax that is prone to giving vaxxed induced infections. Israeli troops are getting the better vaccine that is given IM and it is more effective. Strange huh?
ETA Giving a live virus vaccine is contraindicated in people who have compromised immune systems. Puts a diabolical spin on this doesn’t it?
Just after October 7 Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant declared: “No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.'”
And yet for 13 months Biden has refused to admit that Israel is deliberately restricting aid into Gaza nor is it committing genocide.
Another pipe dream is that I live long enough to see everyone involved in this horrendous genocide being held to account at The Hague…
Babies killed by nasal spray
I agree that a pause of head shots for nasal spray is, for want of a better word, suspicious.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Excellent
I will do my best to watch this
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Lol….
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For all the people getting their panties in a twist about Kennedy not being qualified to be head of HHS:
Link
Trump and his
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Why?
A vax hesticancy advocate
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I'm surprised
people are still
getting that shot
(and getting sick from it)
warped seed indeed
question everything
I am still
That isn't science, it is the anecdotal stories I see all day, every day, QMS.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
People are also still dying from the jabs
even though they haven’t had one in years. But yes it’s strange that people are still getting one. How many infections have they had after being jabbed to the max? It’s long been obvious that they don’t block infection or transmission so why are they still getting them?
Ahh…
I understand. Many Trump supporters still give him a pass for operation warp speed and for closing the country down and ect. They say that he’s not a doctor and he didn’t understand the science and other BS. Bull. He knew full well what was coming.
Remember his press conference when he said that this is the calm before the storm?
Read my previous link. Both are good reads.
About this B4 reaction to Trump winning.
Looking at reaction to Trump winning there is interest among women in the B4 women to protest his victory.
After Trump’s win, some women are considering the 4B movement
Not sure how this will work out as stats for young men show lower rates with holdings like marriage and sex. It is a poor reckoning of men also as giving the list, it seems that women are only good for sex and making babies to men. Profound cliche driven view of men.
My take on this
They look ignorant, incapable of critical thinking, and that their worth is a single body part. Embarrassing.
This is not the feminism I advocated in the 60s and 70s.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I really enjoyed this Open Thread, OTC
Particularly all the various references to legal issues in all its forms.
Stories from your practice are always fun. Is there a newsy legal letter or website out there that publishes brief recaps of interesting cases or decisions?
try the 'law is a hammer'
and you are just a nail
or
'the ill eagle died in court'
awaiting justice
/snark
question everything
Not that I know about.
Judges remember outlandish stuff decades later, so I will give you an example.
I wasn't in the room at the time Big Joe, a black man who had a speech impediment and very low IQ. The judge asked, "Why do you want a divorce?"
"She gave me poosy, and we married and she stopped. I don't wanna be married 'cause she won't give me no poosy."
20 years later, the judge would tell the story, and he could mimic my friend's speech perfectly. The judge would laugh until tears dripped down his face. He granted Bid Joe a divorce because...well...because.
I guarantee you, if I called that retired judge right now and mentioned poosy, we would both go into the story like it was yesterday.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It could simply be inspired by Aristophanes' play
Lysistrata. Faced with interminable war the women banded together and cut the men off until they ended the war, forcing all the men to work for peace. It's a potentially serviceable idea except for the fraction of men who would simply start beating and abusing the women.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
There is always the rape factor, El.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
They could of course but that seems unlikely to
achieve their goal unless they first reach some sort of critical mass, since the idea is to force actual social and political change.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
If you’re looking for something to read on T's appointments
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https://archive.ph/tdmWR
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-11-14/ty-article-opinion/.premium/t...
Huckleberry's first interview.
https://archive.ph/HRFpW
His sec def is a PoS and might not get to be it because of some sordid sexual stuff just coming to light.
Which link
I hadn't heard this! Must know more!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
It’s in the video
near the end. No details mentioned though.
I really can't fathom this
@#9.1.1.1..
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an otherwise smart friend, 75 yo just got another 'Covid shot'
and got sick from it. When will we ever learn? Maybe RFK Jr
can clear-up this stupidity? Can only hope people wake up in time.
question everything
I just don't get it, QMS
My secretary had to go to the local drs' office to get seen for an upset stomach or some such. Our client was there in a wheelchair, victim of multiple strokes, permanently unable to walk, and the adoptive father, her husband, told my secretary she had gotten a booster and soon just stroked out. I think she is still live. The adoptive father, her husband, will raise the little girl pretty much by himself.
That shook up my secretary tremendously. We got to meet the little girl.
We don't know if it was the booster, of course. The husband and adoptive daughter damn sure need to know.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
for liability reasons, the causes will not be exposed
before my wife started getting her shots, she was ok
ever since then, it has been one heart issue after another
major invasive surgery has given her something like a normal
life, except for the thinners and statins which are fucking her up
do not trust doctors to do what is best for you
question everything
Statins are killers,
QMS, I have personally, and I mean PERSONALLY, observed health declines, mental health declines, and death here, death there...in vaxxed clients, friends, family, and neighbors.
One of my best friends died a few months after his 2nd jab. He and his wife were/are hardcore Dems, and any suggestion his complete organ failure was related to a vax will not be tolerated.
The oddest thing I have observed is personality change. Like, people I knew for 50 years became people I truly do not know. A conversation with them has to be carefully conducted due to their never before intolerance. Short tempers, know everything, righteous, insults galore. I have never seen anything like it.
My heart goes out to you and your wife, friend. I know you never, EVER thought your life would be like this. I wish both of you well.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
tRump the turd may end up
being a 'lame dog' POTUS. There will be so much infighting between the establishment GOPukes and the FRightwingnuts, that the GOPuke Party could fatally crack in half. Think about it. The Dimos? They stick that ahole Rahm Emanuel in as DNC head, I am out of here. I'm a lifelong Leftie and I know where to go. I just hope there's not another bloody Civil War cos it's sure shaping up that way.
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
there is nothing civil about war
.
the failure of the authorities
to maintain balance between
differing opinions causes conflict
question everything
There is no left.
It is all right, all the time, except for pretty language.
Take good care, orbucfan. I know you have always pushed for true leftish policies, as I have. But you and I no longer have any representation in government. I accept it. I invest no more in party politics. My grandparents, friends of various Roosevelts, are rolling in their graves, but they have been dead for 50 years.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981