A few simple questions
Good morning one and all.
How do you deal with a person who insists the earth is flat?
Well, you ask them to describe the underside of earth. Is there a bunch of roots hanging down? Will you fall off? Where would you fall to?
By the same token, if someone insists humans have no effect on the global climate changes, how would they explain the closing of the ozone hole over Antarticia by banning CFCs worldwide through the Montreal Protocol? The treaty was signed in 1987 and the chemicals have been eliminated from aerosols since then, and almost 50 years later the hole has all but disappeared.
Human caused and human solved problem on a global scale.
But some still believe anthropologic climate change is a hoax.
Who does our taxpayer funded military machine work for? It seems those soldiers at 800+ overseas bases would serve us better at the southern U.S. border. But some would have us believe that Vietnam, Somalia, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria are imminent threats to America. What makes us so fearful of peasants in combat sandals?
Who does our taxpayer funded government work for? It seems they work part-time for us only for our vote every couple of years, then largely ignore us. Or simply tell us sweet lies.
Could we threaten to cancel their benefits if they don't work for us full-time?
The moon landing a hoax?
The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter of 2002 took detailed photos of the lander, experimental stations, and even the footsteps in the moonscape still there in perpetuity.
Since then, other space faring countries have photographed some of the sites.
Whatever happened to the human compacity for common sense? Our leaders certainly have none.
The thread is open, what do you all think of this? Or is this common sense gone amuck?
Comments
I realize that
this will be an unpopular opinion, but once somebody reveals that they are in fact determinedly unrooted in reality? I just walk away.
Tilting at windmills always hurts you more than the windmill. There is no fixing what ails increasingly large swaths of humanity, and I have opted out of trying.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
All we can do
is promote the art of Common Sense, and hope it spreads before being squashed by TPTB.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
I sometimes hang around
...to see if I can get a contact high.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Hey, good day!
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Well, there is common sense and nonsense.
I understand the former but not so much the latter.
Seems the latter is being highlighted more and more
by politicians, MSM and MIC. Keeping the proles confused
is the name of the game.
Thanks for the OT!
Smebody once opined that common sense is neither
common nor sense. I somewhat concur. Common sense underlies a lot of fallacies and errors. It is also uncertain, being somewhat contextually based on unspoken assumptions, many of which are part of some cultural background. To me, the solution is to rely upon evidence + logic, and to teach both and use both in explaining things, though reducto ad absurdum is also a very good tool.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
A glass falling to the floor
is likely to break unless some freak happenstance has it land just right.
You don't know for sure it will break, but common sense dictates you move it back from the edge of the table.
That is my iteration of common sense.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Alternatively, experience (evidence) dictates
that if a glass falls to the floor, it is likely to break unless some freak happenstance has it land just right. Since there are many reasons why such as event is undesirable, the precautionary principle requires that it should be moved away from the table.
Common sense is that little voice that tells us that wet stuff won't burn, which it all to often does anyway.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
My iteration of common sense
informs me that some wet stuff does burn, which precludes me from checking the level of fuel in my motorcycle gas tank with a match. Although I've known people who have. "Known" being used in the past tense of course.
My experience in CS comes from my father, who only had a third grade education before going to work in the West Virginia coal mines to help feed his siblings and was a functional illiterate his entire life. But the one thing he had in spades was common sense.
I always admired the hell out of him for that. He raised 7 kids and retired at 55, passing away at 85 peacefully in his sleep.
I could only hope to have a life and death like that.
Cheers.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
It looks like Genocide Joe just performed a magic trick.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/pentagon-to-supply-stopgap-funds-for-weapons...(Bloomberg)%20%2D%2D%20The%20White%20House,funding%20from%20Congress%20remain%20stymied.
funny money
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every hundred days the federal deficit grows
by a trillion $US. Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul.
So they stole $200 million from the army. Not quite
enough to make Ze happy. Oh well. The FED and
Pentagon has the system rigged to fund WW3.
Thanks 'no red lines' Brandon.
I guess that is what you can do when the printing presses
are running in overdrive. It appears as if money grows on trees.
" Cost savings"
The biggest lie we have ever been told.
Never in the history of our military expenses have there ever been savings of any kind. It's as credible as a tiger removing his stripes to take a bath.
Thanks for the info.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Screw military families
Base housing is still horrible with families living in homes that should be condemned because of black mold and it gets worse from there. I’m mildly has known about this for decades, but it won’t force contractors to fix it. I can imagine how $200 million would help families. I can also imagine how $60 millions would help the homeless!
Remember pictures of the VA hospital during shrub? Yeah that’s what many homes look like. And why the hell are millions of military families on food stamps while generals and ex generals live like royalty?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Hundreds of millions! Omigod!
Weren't they just trying to pass a $61 billion bill "for Ukraine"?
Of course none of these numbers will do anything for Ukraine. The problem with Ukraine is that "we could send weapons to Ukraine, but who's going to operate them? You?"
This is a case of "just one more grift." Like US empire was a cigarette, and its American smoker needed to take one last big drag before crushing out the butt.
"the Democratic Party is not 'left'." -- Sabrina Salvati
4 years ago this month
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The constitution and the bill of rights were rescinded.
There were no cases of Covid in Texas at the time. It’s a great read.
And now countries including American are going to make this happen again whenever they want to if it passes.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Fear, in the right hands
is a very powerful tool.
However, I feel our Constitution and Bill of Rights disappeared with the Patriot Act.
Thanks for the info.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
They are not done yet!
Sad but true!
The Global Majority
is fleeing the western world hegemony.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Hiya,
Hi all, Hey E1,
Carl Sagan explained how Eratosthenes knew the earth was not flat. People used to be able to reason. Then they realized in the 60's it might not be such a good idea if everyone was capable of critical thought. By the 80's they were actively dumbing down EDU, and went full-tilt on it with Common Core and No Child left unpropagandized and ignorant.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/T0f6u39jlRA
Humans remain the best argument against evolution. This was figured out 2000 years ago, ffs.
For many, their beliefs are their religion. Good luck changing that.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Thought experiment:
If every human being disappeared tomorrow, how many centuries would it take for Mother Earth to completely recover and become a Garden of Eden again?
Thanks for stopping by.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
I think of common sense as
acting in a customary societal way to stay safe and sound.
One way is not to get into arguments about climate change or climate hoax.
We can all see that weffers are trying to lower carbon emissions, but they have no common sense, and are not good examples of acting to promote the safety and soundness of the globe. If they had a thimble full of common sense, they would leave Davos in the rear view mirror, have their meetings via zoom.
Thanks for the OT, e1.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I don't think WEFfers
are motivated by any kind of sense, but purely profit, or dollars and cents.
That kind of cents has been running this world for 500 years.
But it's about to come to an end. FSM willing.
Thanks for the post.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Here’s my problem with climate change as a political issue now:
I have always thought it was real, period, ever since the greenhouse effect was mentioned in the 1956 science film “Our Mr. Sun” that they showed us on TV / in school.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Mr._Sun
In recent years, however, I have begun to question whether things are that simple, based on the behavior of U.S. and other Western elites. If they believe climate change is real, how could they possibly think ginning up all these wars and diversions of scarce resources to military purposes is a good idea? And why are they, here in Europe, currently trying to put many farmers out of business and greatly increase the cost of food?
Unless it’s their climate-change plan to use war, disease, and famine to “off” you and me (the 99% / the masses) as useless eaters, leaving only the privileged few alive — some say ultimately only 500 million out of the earth’s present 8 billion?
That is exactly the problem
presented to believers in climate change who are now wondering if they were duped.
The wars, the private planes, the constant harping on population reduction, as the globalists buy up agricultural acreages, as they build mansions at the shores of the oceans that they say will rise soon.
Didn't we boomers grow up with the adage, "do as I say, not as I do" is the sure sign to resist, to distrust? It is TPTB who are the ones funding the science, and the cause of more and more people, including scientists, saying the whole climate change thing is propaganda.
Just consider which percentile of the global population who would shed no tears if the 99%ers dropped dead, and who would cry?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Well, there are the people lying to themselves about Biden
I enjoyed this quick disproof:
'course, Rickards then goes on to tell us that there's no climate crisis...
"the Democratic Party is not 'left'." -- Sabrina Salvati
Common sense is “intimidating”
Common sense: Palestinians are human, right? — but even that is too big a concession for the vice president of Columbia University Gerry Rosberg:
https://twitter.com/ColumbiaSJP/status/1767659055907053789