I thought responses were either patient or naive, but not confrontational. And wonderfully united about a larger Vision.

the movement or the man?

I don't see Sanders as the leader of the movement. Much of what he is campaigning about happens to align with a pre-existing movement. His campaign may be helping that movement coalesce. But, he's never really been the movement. A lot of what he stands for is not what many in the movement stand for. After all, he's still a capitalist. He believes in some things that would lighten the weight of the oppression of capitalism, but he's not offering anything radical which will end the oppression. He is not a font of liberation.

So, I have faith in what I know he has as an agenda, but that is not the same as the faith in the burgeoning democratic movement that has been growing since the Green campaign in Iran and through the financial collapse and the Arab Spring and the anti-colonialist movements in South America and the autonomy-based governance of the Kurds and Occupy and so forth.

There is something happening around the world that is so much more radical than Bernie Sanders. If he were to win, it might help that ever-growing connection happening amongst us all. If he doesn't and he does the establishment thing, the movement will still be here. It doesn't need him. Would have been nice to have him, but he was only going to participate to a limit, anyway.

So, what is it you lost faith in?

is that (from my perspective) it's not at all about the candidate.

In other words, I don't support Bernie because I like him personally (although there's a lot to like). I'm attracted to the campaign because he's the only one whose ideals match my own. And unlike everyone else running, his entire life has been spent trying to turn those ideals into reality. He doesn't pretend to adopt ideals because it is politically expedient to do so. (cough HRC cough.)

I support Bernie not because he's going to single-handedly turn things around. It's because I know we can count on him to use the bully pulpit to hold those other bastards' feet to the fire. That's what he's been doing this entire campaign.

Let's face it, on a charisma meter, Bernie barely moves the needle. What's exciting about this campaign is that for the first time, someone is actually talking about mobilizing people to seize control of a government that is currently the exclusive property of millionaires and billionaires.

It's the movement. Bernie is merely the most visible element of it.

Before Bernie there was #occupy. Before that there was G20 protests and a few other things. This did not start with Bernie. It won't end with Bernie.

Being very new here, I hesitate to call someone out. The screen name is it's own clue, of course, so I went and looked at this user's (is that the correct terminology here?) comment history.

"Over the top" pretty much sums it up. The one easily verified claim that I noticed was that 50% of American adults suffer from Type 2 diabetes. The American Diabetes Association puts the number at 9.3%

When I was in prison they had a name for folks exempt from the usually strict rules of "respect." They called it "the pay me no mind list."

I just couldn't make hide nor hair of what this person is complaining about....so I thought I would ask... the silence speaks volumes,... eh?

a troll trying to stir shit. Probably a Kos/Hillbot.

Yes it does.

Right, the platform is a document written in pencil on toilet paper. But if the D party has any hope of surviving (and I'm perfectly ambivalent), then it needs to start changing permanently this summer. If not, well, good riddance. But as others have stated, Bernie is running for the D nomination regardless of his own recognition of the uselessness of D party politics. He is doing all he can to play be the rules while shifting the focus of the rules at the same time.

Don't give up until you have to. Actually, don't give up then. Just retrench.