Open Thread WE 2 AUG 23 ~ full moon


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The name "Sturgeon Moon" originates with the Algonquin peoples native to what is now the Northeastern United States. It refers to the fact that this period was considered a prime time for catching sturgeon in the Great Lakes and other major water bodies in the region.

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While my spirit is dancing in the light of the sturgeon moon,
y'all speak your peace. It's cool to express whatever you have here.

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“La Cabra” by George Rodriguez
from Mexican Zodiac
https://georgerodriguez.net

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janis b's picture

Most of the night has been raining heavily with occasional hail pelleting down, and brief moments of moonshine in between. I am hoping to be awakened by the moon setting in clearer skies. It is the first of the blue august moons

On a side note, my fishmonger grandfather traveled from Brooklyn to Canada to buy and smoke sturgeon to sell to delis. It was a rare and occasional treat he brought to us.

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@janis b

Funny, but I grew up in the Great Lakes region and never knew sturgeon was an edible
fish. Perhaps smoking them makes it better?

cheers!

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@QMS

Caviar comes from virgin sturgeon,
Virgin sturgeon's a mighty fine fish
Virgin sturgeon needs no urgin'
That's why caviar is my dish.

(Verse from a mildly bawdy folksong to the tune of "Reuben, Reuben")

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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@janis b Hi Janis!

On this...

to buy and smoke sturgeon

I tried to smoke some once but couldn't get it lit!
Wink

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

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@dystopian

they stick to the papers when you try to roll them up Wink
thanks for the chuckle

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@dystopian

Give it a try on a bed of herbs ; ).

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Been out and about handling chores on this 68F morning...very pleasant before heading back into the 90's tomorrow.

The supermoon was yellow as it rose here last night.

Caviar is roe or eggs from the sturgeon family of fish. It's considered a delicacy, often eaten raw as an appetizer, with some caviar fetching a high price.
...only sturgeon roe is considered caviar.

Y'all have a great day!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

for the wonderful Carlin quote.

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enhydra lutris's picture

firm flesh and delicate flavor. It was seriously over hunted and became quite scarce and, for some reason, socially unacceptable to eat. Some say it is best raw, as sashimi.

Forth upon the Gitche Gumee,
On the shining Big-Sea-Water,
With his fishing-line of cedar,
Of the twisted bark of cedar,
Forth to catch the sturgeon Nahma,
Mishe-Nahma, King of Fishes,
In his birch canoe exulting
All alone went Hiawatha.

my emphasis
be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris

when my grandfather had some sturgeon. I remember a wonderful photo of my grandfather beside a Canadian Indian who he bought from.

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Irish folk song by Judy Collins, 'Rising of the Moon' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYK9f1QxDnI

Creedence Clearwater 'Bad Moon Rising'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkqfPuQhW9I

Ella Fitzgerald and her liquid rendition of a moon song which is almost as good as a restorative moon bath.

Thanks for the OT QMS. The moon was bright and shining here last night. The dogs and I took a late-night dip in the moon shine.

Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.

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include a sturgeon song.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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@usefewersyllables

this one. Les *loves* him some sturgeon...

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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@usefewersyllables

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a couple of books (actually more than a couple) about trees and forests. This book review caught my eye at Naked Capitalism; https://wildfiretoday.com/2023/08/01/just-put-it-out/
I'll have to add that to my book stack. Unfortunately it is an issue that affects increasingly more people and more places.

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On a more serious matter.

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@humphrey . That puts me in mind of the Buttons character from the t.v. series "Our Flag Means Death".
The following vid only makes sense to fans of the show, (of which I am but one of legions) but I can't resist posting it.
Apologies to those who don't find it amusing.

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G. Lira manages to get himself out of there safely.

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about what is happening with our open borders. There is too much abuse. The stories are horrible.
Jimmy Dore, JFK jr. lay it out.

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is high in the sky, I hook up the bluetooth speakers and take them out on the porch and crank them up:

And then I howl.

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@JtC

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sub theme,

Over 400 hungry goats have taken to the Sierra Nevada to help with vegetation management near Shaver Lake in California.

According to Southern California Edison, these goats will tackle vegetation that’s growing close to distribution and transmission lines across 15 acres.

Fish eggs is sorta weird to me, but what is it that cowboy caviar consists of?
Is it bulls balls? Can't remember ...

Thanks everyone for filling in today, in the middle of replacing a light with a fan.

No clearance on the ceiling beams, so have to drop it down a couple inches.

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@QMS

Rocky Mountain Oysters are not quite the same as cowboy caviar?
Oh well, life is for stumbling along some paths
that cross in strange ways sometimes.

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taking a pause. Divorce, asset and debt division stuff.
We are trying to divide guns now, having finished dividing up the sex toys. The wife wanted, among the ones she has in her possession, the return of the 2, big black guy dildos.
I wonder if the opposing counsel, a seminary graduate, is faring well.
Lol!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp Wow. Just by making a request for those 2 items your client really stuck it to him! Pun intended.

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@Bring Back Civics If we do not settle the division of the sex toys, we will have to put on evidence, argue why our client should be entitled to which toy, and let the judge decide.
Think about that for a few minutes.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp I have always avoided divorce. For the cost of arguing about those 2 items your client could buy a couple of dozen-in every color she can think of!

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@Bring Back Civics I was entertaining the mediator with my examination questions: Why this one, not that one? What is so special about it? What are the estimated hours of use, for determination of re-sale value? etc...
It is more fun than fighting over Christmas decorations!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp The husband? I shouldn't be surprised. Ouch.

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@Bring Back Civics having way too much fun!
We haven't quite resolved the gun collection division. We haven't settled the division of the proceeds from the sale of the house. At least we did agree on furniture, fixtures, vehicles, lawn equipment, and sex toys.
This was a much more interesting mediation than usual.

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Hi all, Hope it's all good out there...

Sturgeon really are an odd group of fishes. Considered very primitive, like right after Lampreys. I think with lots of cartilage instead of bones, like sharks. I think almost all breed in freshwater, but many live much of their lives in marine environments. There are depending authority 22-28 species worldwide, and I think the U.S has about 7 species. Europe is ground zero for sturgeon diversity. Some have been recorded well over 20 FEET long!

My grandfather on dad's side was about 6'5" and huge. At one time he had state record Largemouth Bass from FL, and KY. He was a real deal fisherman. The story was that the fish pulled him off the river bank and he finally lost it 2 miles down river where he exited the water. It took the line breaking, they said he would have held on to the sea. This was the Sesquehanna River at York PA. It was thought to be a big sturgeon.

An old fav moon song...

take care all,

melting in Texastan

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@dystopian

towed him and his skiff all over the delta for 4 or 5 hours before he landed it. I forget dimensions, but remember the picture - Toyota pick-up, tail gate down, it hung over the tailgate.

be well and have a good one

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It's due to rise any minute. By luck the skies cleared and we will see it tonight. The Summer Triangle is already out.

July we had close to eight inches of rain and no super high temps. Good winds coming off the Atlantic unlike the strange winter calm we have been getting for several years now. Makes for smoky air with the wood stoves working to keep us all warm.

Many years ago the pirate and I used to fish Sturgeon below Bonneville Dam on the Columbia. We were allowed to keep three foot and over six, but absolutely no for the in between sizes. It was believed the three to six foot Sturgeon were all females and essential to promoting their continued survival.

The bank and boat based fishers were many: Native Americans; Latvians (our group); assorted die hard fishers. We used steel cable with two rods if we were bank fishing. A little motorized platform would carry the line weighted with a lead ball out to the hole we thought they were finning. Once over the preferred spot a jerk of the motor line would release the sinker with hook and cable. Don't think it's legal these days.

How to fish Columbia River Sturgeon

Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife

Hey, hey, the Moon is up and it's a big one.

ETA: The white meat is like a more dense Halibut. The best is lightly smoked.

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@Dawn's Meta I grew up salmon gillnetting in Puget Sound. About 40 years ago we caught a 90 pound sturgeon as "by-catch." We filleted it and grilled it. It was inedible. That grey/brown strip of flesh on the fillets just ruined it. We never caught another one, so I never looked it up, but I am guessing that strip has to be removed before cooking and that there are other tricks to preparing it.

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Although the mediator did not list sex toys in the settlement agreement, we all agree they would fall under the "personal effects" category.
Now, another mediation Friday. It will involve selling cocaine and drunken blackouts, and which parent is best suited to be awarded custody of their baby.

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