Sweden and Finland OK to Join NATO
Submitted by ban nock on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 6:55pm
At the G7 meeting a diplomatic resolution was reached with Turkey. Turkey withdrew its objection to the two countries joining Nato.
I know Sweden valued it's non aligned reputation and was one of, and often the only country allowed to run humanitarian programs in closed communist countries such as Vietnam and Laos.
Living next to such a belligerent and increasingly unhinged neighbor such as the dictator for life Putin I can well understand. If they were to be attacked by Russia Nato obligations would require all Nato Members to attack Russia in turn.
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Could you post a link?
Thanks. Very odd Turkey approved this.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
They are making it sound like an arms embargo issue
but that sounds like a smoke screen. Erdogan had his arms twisted.
https://www.rt.com/news/558027-turkey-finland-sweden-nato-deal/
He wants peace in the valley.
I KNOW it had nothing to do with oil. Or, or, arms deals. Or, Or, ...same ol' same ol'.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
@on the cusp I usually just go to AP
Better to assume ALL news outlets contain propaganda,
than to assume any to be completely reliable. Unless your aim is simply to pick a team and exclude any news outlets that contradicts that team’s narrative.
Truth must be gleaned by sorting and sifting contradictory assertions. It’s hard work these days, and requires much more effort than simply seeing certain news sources as purveyors of truth and all others as evil liars. All news comes in shades of grey. None are pure.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
@ovals49 Actually not. Your
https://adfontesmedia.com/
Highest in reliability and least biased. I have no time for flakes. No Dk, no storm front.
What does a Left - Right Bias chart have to do with Truth?
Truth has no bias, neither does it have a party or political affiliation. The whole left vs. right paradigm is an artificial construct that our political system finds useful.
Just out of curiosity, where do you see yourself on the left - right chart that you linked to?
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
@ovals49 I go back and
I don’t need to use a chart to see what the true facts are
and most of the ones listed employ ex pentagon and military officials that tells people what the government wants them to know. Good grief. When both Carlson and Maddow were sued for distorting their facts a judge ruled that their viewers should know that they deal in propaganda. But the chart says that Rachel Moscow is a high variation of reliability, but Carlson is selective, unfair persuasion, propaganda or other issues.
New York Times has never seen a war it hasn’t embraced and lied for years about Saddam having WMDs. They recently said that there were no American boots on the ground in Ukraine, but oops that wasn’t true was it? The CIA has been involved in Ukraine long before the coup in 2014 and has been arming and training Nazis. I’d quit trusting those sources if I actually wanted to know what the facts are. I take nothing at face value and check multiple sources. I did read Putin’s statement for why he started the special military operation. As he stated he tried for years to get Germany and France to uphold the Minsk 2 agreement for 8 years whilst Ukraine kept bombing Ukrainians living in the Donbas. And for nato to quit encroaching on Russia’s borders. I watched as Obama was doing just that. Now Biden’s sending tens of thousands of troops into Poland which will just threaten Russia even more. Sane people would be against this.
Very few people own all the media companies and those that don’t toe the government line are censored into oblivion. Doesn’t that bother you?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Sweden has lots of Kurdish refugees with ties to the Kurdish
factions fighting Turkey. Turkey has labeled them terrorists.
Turkey isn't pro Russia or anything, a manufacturer there is the main supplier of Ukraine's drones, they make songs about that drone in Ukraine.
Turkey plays both sides of the fence
Cheering for the military industrial complex
How exciting it must be for you to see our money going for war and the chance of nuclear annihilation and the threat of loss of all life on earth while America falls further into a 3rd world country with more homelessness and people falling into poverty.
As for Putin = Hitler I don’t see Putin building concentration camps and murdering millions because of their ancestry or way of life like Hitler did or doing medical experiments on Ukrainians or using them as slave labor. America however has been experimenting on Ukrainians with stuff cooked up in their bio labs there. Oops…did you not know that? I never thought I’d see the day when Americans turned a blind eye to Nazis and everything they stand for and yet here we are. My grandpa is turning in his grave after fighting the scourge of Nazis that America propped up then without his knowledge.
There was once a time that shitlibs were for peace and to end NATO expansion and the military industrial complex, but that was before democrats broke people’s minds with Russia Russia Russia. I find nothing to cheer about this. Russia’s military operation could have easily been avoided and tens of thousands of Ukrainians could still be alive, but America no longer has an anti war movement because too many people have bought the daily propaganda.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Anyone that buys into the X = Hitler
As for Sweden joining NATO, I don't really care.
Finland joining NATO is MUCH more alarming, because they border Russia. Thus NATO continues to surround Russia, becoming more of a threat to Russia, making Russia more fearful and paranoid.
Thus making Russia, a major nuclear power, more dangerous.
Anyone with half a brain would not celebrate the ratcheting up of tensions with a nation that could eliminate all life on this planet. If you think this statement is an insult, then you're an idiot. It's what MADD is all about.
Anyone who isn't an idiot would be looking for ways to end the conflict and avoid a nuclear war.
Biden officials recognize that Ukraine can't win
CNN
What prompted
the change of position? Every position then is also the now, unless...
What does Turkey get, out of a meeting, and who might have done some arm twisting?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
@on the cusp Turkey is a member of
Bull shit.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Bushtits
alternative spelling
Not sure why,
but thought I’d drop what I’m listening to now, here ...
[video:https://youtu.be/DBd5mhQqmZU]
ban nock,
the image you have posted, labeled Putin = Hitler, is the most disturbing thing I have seen at this site. You used the word "unhinged" to describe Putin. Without making it personal against you, I must say the artist who produced that image seems, just as you said, unhinged.
How is it possible that the forces who have captured and exposed Azov battalion soldiers wearing Nazi tatoos are Hitler, and the Azov battalion soldiers who are proudly wearing the tatoos are not?
How have the forces who have captured Azov headquarters and barracks, filled with Nazi manuals, posters, emblems, and photographs, including photographs of Adolf Hitler, become Hitler in your mind, while the Nazi Azov murderers are not?
How has this happened to you? Is it as simple as Reuters and AP showing you images like the one you posted? Is it because Russia invaded Ukraine and Hitler invaded Ukraine, therefore Putin = Hitler? Have you applied this same equivalency to the United States invading Germany in World War II?
You seem to be very confused
about Sweden and Finland vis-à-vis Hitler and the Nazis. Do you have any idea how nonsensical this diary is? Have you studied even a modicum about the events of WWII?
Finland signed an agreement with Russia
to never join NATO. Just like Ukraine signed one with Russia not to put their security above Russia if it would threaten Russia. Seems more countries are ignoring the treaties they signed with Russia and becoming more America-nized and doing whatever the hell they want. US tears up any treaty that goes against its agenda.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
More proof that we should be at war in Ukraine
The CIA is on the ground in Ukraine
This is awesome. The CIA has a long record for fighting the Just Cause and winning in the end.
[edit] I was looking at my reddit account and I found this I had forgotten I had wrote it.
I think that this aged well.
Indeed it did
I can’t believe how many people are willing to risk nuclear annihilation or watch as millions die from hunger just so they can stick it to Putin who had been warning us for decades that we were getting close to crossing Russia’s red lines. He offered sensible alternatives to stop what is now happening, but Biden, NATO and those who want to get their hands on Russia’s resources thought that he was just kidding.
America is demanding that Russia de-colonize the countries they have owned for centuries whilst ignoring its own history of colonialism and stealing the land from Native Americans and having over 800 military bases across the fcking world. Americans for some reason ignores what its military has done to countless countries since the end of WW2 and how many millions of people it has killed, but then they still think that they are free. And that voting matters.
Let’s put Biden and Putin in a room and they can measure their dicks and the world can have peace at last.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
The US is fomenting a proxy war with Russia.
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