Alpha's Wisconson Primary watchers Live thread.
Submitted by Alphalop on Tue, 04/05/2016 - 5:53pm
Hi guys,
Another Primary another one of those threads where I drone on about stupid things and post updates as the results come in. 
If you want to hang out and kill some time and discuss the primary or whatever else tickles your fancy please pop on in!
I will start posting updates, exit polls results if I can find them, etc. at 8PM EST and look forward to seeing you guys here!
First Beer is on me!
Comments
finally back in! Johnny, we need another upgrade!
meanwhile back to a 9 1/2 pt lead
He's up 9.5 with 46% reporting
Looking good if the campus precincts report as strongly as we have reason to expect.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
glad to see Milwaukee close
and Dane County so strong for Bernie
Zoe and Loki are rooting for Bernie
and keeping their daddy company waiting for the poll results to come in.
It's kinda funny, when Bernie is on TV they both sit there and watch! It's almost creepy!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
They're smarter than we give them credit for.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
First birds
now dogs. Bernie represents ALL Americans, not just human peoples.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Of 101 Dane County precincts reported, HRC has won TWO.
They are Maple Bluff and Shorewood Hills. These are uber-wealthy enclaves of Madison that exist largely as property tax havens. Both are located on Lake Mendota. Shorewood Hills is a literal enclave -- it is completely surrounded by the city and the university.
These are the figures on HRC's big victory therein:
V Shorewood Hills 511 419
V Maple Bluff 267 241
She's losing everywhere else in Dane County -- and the numbers still reflect only a couple dozen of Madison's 140ish wards.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Bernies WI lead is growing!
With 48.4% reporting Sanders lead climbes to over 10 points!
Statewide results
1,867/3,852 precincts (48.4%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
276,029
55.2%
Hillary Clinton
223,154
44.6%
500,488 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Up by 11% now, 51% reporting!
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Any volunteers to go see what'a happening @ Dreary Karwreck?
Maybe take a head count of rent garments and gnashed teeth?
(Just morbid curiosity)
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Sorry, but I have to
Change the air in my bicycle tires. Also my cat needs washing. And there is some paint drying here that requires my attention.
Stay on track. Stay in lane. Don't throw rocks.
Wise Move
...
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Same here, Miep... only
it's getting the vacuum cleaner bags ready to send to the dry cleaner, and deweying decimaling the next thousand books in our library.
Plus, laughing at grown people crying is frowned on in some circles. I mean, not that I wouldn't do it anyway...
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But...but...
If the Republicans won't let Trump win, and run Cruz, all the Trump supporters will vote for Clinton, because that's what always happens when people break from their party because it's too establishment, and they want to vote for whom they perceive to be a populist candidate. They cross lines and vote for the establishment candidate on the other side!
Really, I just read this.
Stay on track. Stay in lane. Don't throw rocks.
Top three diaries
over there are Sanders.
Euterpe2
Sanders WI lead grows to 11 points!
Statewide results
1,967/3,852 precincts (51%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
287,798
55.4%
Hillary Clinton
230,581
44.4%
519,764 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
11% lead
can we hit 12?
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I really want to see 56% of the total vote...he's getting closer
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
From your mouth to Dogs ears.... :)
But why settle for that? I really wanna make 4 in a row within 2 points!
(I may have missed this one, I called for sanders with between 65-67%, lol!)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Everybody at TOS says he needs 57%
Like we give a squat......let's make it 58.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Oops, yeah, 57%
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
All I can say to that is...
[video:https://youtu.be/LOJ4C-OTF4o?t=5]
(It's supposed to start the video 5 seconds in, but for some reason the "Parsing?" doesn't work here.)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
If it makes you feel better, it's now at 55.5 and climbing! :)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
He's at 55.5% now with 53% reporting
His spread is increasing. I think nos. are still out for major campus precincts.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
Bernie's lead is growing - now up by 11.1 with
52.3% reporting. Looking very good!
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
55.5%
Movin on up
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
he's closed to within 3500 votes in MKE county
http://county.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/Groups/cntyElectCommission/Elec...
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Awesome news! Thanks for the update brother! :)
I have NEVER been more excited and optomistic about a Sanders victory in 2016 than I have been in the last few days!
This went from, "Well, at least we can support him and get the conversation out there."
To, "Holy Shit, We can WIN THIS FUCKING THING!!!"
Keep it up, Keep phone banking, keep posting and blogging, Keep donating, and most importantly, KEEP FEELING THE FUCKING BERN!!!!!
I love you crazy bastards! You make me think we may actually pull this off.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
We're going to pull it off, Alphalop.
I believe it.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Me too.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I don't think I am being all "Rah Rah Bernie!" either.
Think about it, it's looking like we are gonna possibly flip Nevada, They talk about Berners showing up for rallies but not to vote and look at Clark County as well as Northern Nevada around Washoe County (My old stomping grounds) and we are looking at 8 out of 9 wins.
That is frigging YUGE!!!!
And looking at what is going on in NY.
My friends in the City are telling me the Bern is huge!
Only other friend I have is in Northern NY, (Schenectady) and he said the rural voters in his area are also feeling the Bern! (Qualifier, he wouldn't say it was the majority, just that it felt "Really close". (He is also an independent that switched to D to vote for Sanders so he may be biased).
All things considered, I think its looking awesome C99Peeps!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
now 11 pt lead, 56% in
when's Wyoming?
Saturday I believe
It's a caucus which bodes well for Sanders barring any more Clintonian dirty tricks (Wyoming being so small she may not bother).
WY caucus is on Saturday
Yuuge for Bernie!
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
I agree with TYT
all the later precincts reporting stayed open later because there were so many in line and they will all go to Bernie and his lead will just grow ...
Should we start a C99P fundraiser
to send a case of Zantac and Rolaids to the Clinton Campaign headquarters if he ties or wins NY?
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Should we start a C99P fundraiser
to send a case of Zantac and Rolaids to the Clinton Campaign headquarters if he ties or wins NY?
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
If Clinton can't win NY
she should drop out of the race.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
55.8
Looks tight for 58%.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
The margin of victory is
unfortunately too tight. One has to worry that we're running out of room to catch up.
It is time to turn up the pressure on the Superdelegates from states he's won in a big way.
"This party is on notice. Your vote in Philadelphia matters. WE ARE WATCHING YOU. You have to earn our vote in YOUR next election!"
Ban the supers.
We win without them.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
snowball effect
it's not like Bernie needs to win some percentage as proscribed by dKos Hillary supporters. A win like tonight's helps him win by more down the road.
The margin of victory is
unfortunately too tight. One has to worry that we're running out of room to catch up.
It is time to turn up the pressure on the Superdelegates from states he's won in a big way.
"This party is on notice. Your vote in Philadelphia matters. WE ARE WATCHING YOU. You have to earn our vote in YOUR next election!"
The margin of victory is
unfortunately too tight. One has to worry that we're running out of room to catch up.
It is time to turn up the pressure on the Superdelegates from states he's won in a big way.
"This party is on notice. Your vote in Philadelphia matters. WE ARE WATCHING YOU. You have to earn our vote in YOUR next election!"
No, it's not...
It's in the range of doable.
And the Supers aren't going to budge, right now; their votes are bought and paid for. Time will come for that.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I'm planning ahead and
drafting my letter to Governor Jay Inslee of Washington. It begins:
"for all of my adult life I have thought of myself to be a Democrat...."
I wish there was an emoticon for a slow golf clap...
Cause you would have a bunch of them following that opening...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
We could
always try some profanity?
Favorite Son victory!
Sanders wins the Town of Vermont 219-2. (It's in far western Dane County.)
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
EVERY American loves a "Rocky" story...
What is more Rocky than the Sanders Campaign?
Except I like Jane way more than Rocky's wife. She's strong, smart and classy.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I dunno.
I'm not sure, "Yo, Jane" has the same panache.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Someone needs to tweet this to TYT.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
11.9% up
with 59.1% reporting.
Euterpe2
From Oregonlive
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders constantly says that polls show he would be a stronger candidate in the general election than former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. But is that actually true? Politifact, the Pulitzer Prize-winning fact-checking operation, decided to find out.
"The most recent national poll showed Sanders besting Republican front-runner Donald Trump by 15 points and Clinton beating him by 10 points.
"That certainly supports Sanders' claim, but that poll didn't compare him to any other GOP candidates," Politifact writes. This is an important point because, though Trump has a sizeable delegate lead in the GOP race, political analysts and Republican insiders increasingly believe there could be a contested convention that would deny Trump the nomination."
Look at how illogical this is. Sanders is polling higher to beat Trump, but maybe the Republicans will kick Trump out even though he wins and this could be bad for Sanders! WTF does that even mean? Clinton might do better against a Republican candidate who actually lost the primary? Is this supposed to be high praise? We're going to suddenly vote for Clinton because she's running against a typical sucky Republican as opposed to a lunatic?
"And against other potential Republican candidates -- candidates who are less divisive than Trump -- Clinton tends to do a little bit better than Sanders, with Sanders even coming in behind the possible GOP standard bearer in some of the surveys."
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/04/wisconsin_primary_live...
Stay on track. Stay in lane. Don't throw rocks.
So if I am understanding this correctly
The argument is that if the Republicans jettison the results of their own primary and run Cruz, then Clinton will pick up the Trump voters. So don't run Sanders, because he's a loser.
Stay on track. Stay in lane. Don't throw rocks.
Good evening to be back!
Had some major Internet issues the past several days -- seem to be worked out now. Was able to do some quick reading from my phone but not post. Hope all are well this evening with what looks like another Sanders win. I don't see how the Dem Party and the traditional media can ignore the momentum outside of the South.
Okay, this is funny...
to me at least.
This is from HRC's tweet to Wisconsin:
Having degrees in English and journalism, I was taught to be careful with words. HRC's message sloppily does not identify who "this" refers to because the previous sentence references Sanders.
If read according what it actually states rather than intent, HRC just said congrats to Sanders supporters for their efforts and told them "Forward!" minus H. = ) Pass it along. LOL
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
that's how i read it
Hillary hiding again
No speech tonight. Why does she run and hide every time Bernie wins a state?
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
The Young Turks said she's at a fundraiser tonight :)
Makes sense. For her.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
Yup, this (long-ago) English major agrees with you
Have to think HRC's staff creates most (all) of the tweets. They're probably too young to have had solid instruction in grammar and diagramming and don't understand dangles and unclear antecedents.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
LOL, diagramming...
when I was teaching at a NM college, I taught the students how to diagram. They appreciated it. = ) We also had a lot of fun.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Lawrence O'Donell just read it giving her props for being so
generous in her loss by giving Sander's people a shout out for their hard work???????
My tweet in response
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
55.9%
Sanders can make 58%.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
55.9%
Sanders can make 58%.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Which would be cool...
but 56% is on track to tie, so that's what he needs to beat. (And that calculation was before the Nevada re-arrangement).
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
56.2%
Looks like there's plenty of room to grow.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
55.9%
Sanders can make 58%.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I wish I did "Twitter" I think TYT would find this whole thread
pretty fucking funny,
Send it to them at #TYTLive if you think they would.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I love twitter, I recommend joining it
I also hate FB and haven't been on in well over a year. Twitter is pretty cool.
Holy crap! I had to do a double take when I saw your photo!
Out the corner of my eye you looked like my old broker! LOL!
(He's still my buddy, but I wouldn't have placed him as a Sanders supporter which made it a double double take.
)
Wait, You ain't from Florida are ya?
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
no, not in Florida and not a broker ... but
I'm probably a lot broker than any broker.
It's worth having a twitter account
Just to be able to read it. My experience at least was they keep asking you to log in if you aren't. But it's easy to be invisible for all practical purposes.
Agree that Twitter > Facebook.
Stay on track. Stay in lane. Don't throw rocks.
Yeah, I mentioned above that someone needs to tweet
them the result from Town of Vermont (western Dane County) -- Sanders 219, Clinton 2.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Holy Batshit Ratman!! Sanders lead is approaching 13%!!!!
Statewide results
2,523/3,852 precincts (65.4%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
392,579
56.0%
Hillary Clinton
306,845
43.7%
701,475 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Steve Kornacki says Trump still has a path to 1237
MSNBC's Steve Kornacki just went over the map from NY onward, and Trump still has a narrow but possible path to the magic number of 1237 delegates. Tea-GOP establishment desperate to stop that.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Sanders widens his lead with 67% reporting!
Statewide results
2,581/3,852 precincts (67%) reporting
Bernie Sanders
400,422
56.0%
Hillary Clinton
312,335
43.7%
714,862 total votes
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
As the numbers come in from the precincts that had delays
because of long lines of students registering at the polls etc, Sanders will continue to gain.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
agreed. I think he'll reach 57
Thanks to all
I was worried I couldn't keep my resolve to not visit that place whose owner openly mocks us. I feel the live blog was the test. Even tho at one point this site was overwhelmed, the folks who linkyied to the guardian site helped me to maintain my resolve.
“The longer we dwell on our misfortunes, the greater is their power to harm us”
― Voltaire
the reddit subthread also had a live thread going and it moved
fast (reddit has no capacity problems I can spot). Lots of familiar names there as well as here. It's an activist haven set up quickly by mahakali overdrive when kos announced his 15 March edict: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kossacks_for_Sanders/
I switched back and forth tonight between there and here and didn't miss "that" place at all.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
So glad you joined us! I think you will like it here.
A much friendlier and more tolerant of differing beliefs then the GOS.
I even had a fellow sanders supporter over there call me out for not giving a loyalty pledge to her royal lowness if Sanders doesn't win the nom....
Anyway, enough about there, more about here! I hope you hang out and take part, we are having our growing pains, but it's only gonna get better!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
hey folks, fell asleep watching tyt and woke up to them
all laughing and celebrating.
Great News.
Some trouble with C99, looks like we need to raise more money for another upgrade. We're growing too fast, which is a great problem to have.
thx for being our C99 election host, Alpha, it's always a good time.
Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.-Lucy Parsons
Milwaukee is almost done
The clinton stronghold is over.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Apparently the word is out that Hillary
was going to go "full negative" leading up to New York.
Bring it on. Shrillary is a vote-loser.
This is going as good as we could hope for right now. Go Bernie!
Shrillary
so true
the bottom of the CNN screen shows the results of the primary
and it shares = space with an ad for a HRC appearance on CNN tomorrow morning with her picture so it looks like she's the winner
Imagine that...
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary is holding back StL votes
even though that's a different state. I can picture her campaign driving up in a truck with Missouri ballot boxes, dropping them off in Milwaukee.
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