U.S. plan on using mercenaries for false-flag operation in Ukraine?

Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 12/21/2021 - 5:42pm

Russia has made a very specific accusation, but offered no proof to back it up.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu claimed on Tuesday that U.S. private military companies have stationed troops in the Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine and are preparing a “provocation using unknown chemical components.”
Shoigu’s statements came during a Defense Ministry meeting in Moscow amid growing fears that Russia could launch an invasion of Ukraine.

“We have identified the presence of over 120 members of U.S. mercenary groups in the cities of Avdiivka and Krasny Liman to commit provocations…Tanks filled with unidentified chemical components were delivered to the cities of Avdeevka and Krasny Liman to commit provocations,” the state-run TASS news agency quoted Shoigu as saying.

Shoigu said that American PMCs are preparing a provocation with chemical components in eastern Ukraine pic.twitter.com/DCfcGhjkHW

— Victor (@vicktop55) December 21, 2021

That's a very bold accusation to make, if you lack evidence.
Not surprisingly, the western media took the opposite position.

Crazy stuff. The Kremlin, like the Pentagon is full of liars. So we don't need to pay this any mind because it is only one liar against another liar.

Wait! This wouldn't be the first time the U.S. sent mercenaries into Ukraine.

Bild am Sonntag broke the story based on information obtained from sources in the BND, German foreign intelligence service, who claimed there are nearly 400 U.S. mercenaries engaging in operations against pro-Moscow powers in Ukraine.
The mercenaries are alleged to be working under Academi, a successor of Blackwater Security Company, which previously operated in Afghanistan and Iraq. In particular, it was reported that well-trained fighters with heavy weapons are directing and coordinating guerilla operations in Luhansk.

"This is crazy" you might be thinking. Why would Putin even invent this nutso idea?
Amirite?
Well, no. You aren't right, because Putin wasn't the one who invented the idea. Can you guess who it was?

As the party got seated inside a private karaoke room on the second floor, Igor Novikov, who was then a top adviser to Ukraine’s President, remembers feeling a little nervous. He had done some reading about Blackwater, the private military company Prince had founded in 1997, and he knew about the massacre its troops had perpetrated during the U.S. war in Iraq. Coming face to face that night with the world’s most prominent soldier of fortune, Novikov remembers thinking: “What does this guy want from us?”

It soon became clear that Prince wanted a lot from Ukraine. According to interviews with close associates and confidential documents detailing his ambitions, Prince hoped to hire Ukraine’s combat veterans into a private military company. Prince also wanted a big piece of Ukraine’s military-industrial complex, including factories that make engines for fighter jets and helicopters. His full plan, dated June 2020 and obtained exclusively by TIME this spring, includes a “roadmap” for the creation of a “vertically integrated aviation defense consortium” that could bring $10 billion in revenues and investment.

At this point I should note that Erik Prince offered his mercenary services to the Kremlin as recently as 2020.
Plus it is possible that Blackwater was working in Ukraine in 2014.

At least two videos published on YouTube earlier this week show burly, heavily armed soldiers with no insignia in the city, which has been gripped by pro-Moscow protests.
In one of the videos onlookers can be heard shouting 'Blackwater! Blackwater!' as the armed men, who wear no insignia, jog through the streets.

So what Russia is accusing the U.S. of doing, is second-sourced by a credible German newspaper, and was previously reported in July in Time.
So yeh, I'm willing to bet that Washington is seriously thinking about it.

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Submitted by humphrey on Tue, 12/21/2021 - 6:38pm

The US and Nato are begging for a confrontation.

U.S. approves sale of Javelin missiles to Lithuania as Russia tensions build https://t.co/NAifnWDBQe pic.twitter.com/tnT1k6iwyt

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 21, 2021

Submitted by snoopydawg on Tue, 12/21/2021 - 7:14pm

Heh…

Raise your hand if you are surprised if this happens. I’ve been saying it could be the plan for awhile. It’s what we do.

Submitted by CB on Tue, 12/21/2021 - 7:16pm

Interesting article by the Saker

What could happen next if the USA rejects the Russian ultimatum?
December 21, 2021

There is a lot of discussions going on about what Russia might do if the West ignores the Russian ultimatum. All I propose to do here is just share a few thoughts with you. This is not an thorough analysis, but only some musings of mine about what I hear.

First, Putin is both very predictable and, at the same time, very unpredictable. The predictable thing about Putin is that he only uses force when there is no other option left. The very unpredictable thing about Putin is how and where he is willing to use force. He did not intervene in the Donbass, which everybody expected, and he did not allow the LDNR to take even just Mariupol, nevermind the rest of the Ukraine. But when he moved a special task force into Syria, nobody saw it coming. Ditto for the move to protect Crimea from a Ukrainian invasion. When assessing Putin’s possible next steps, we need to keep in mind this paradox about him being both predictable and unpredictable. So moving nuclear nukes to Kaliningrad and/or Belarus is not the only option for Russia.

Second, there is no way Russia will simply start a war, not against the Ukraine, not against the EU or NATO and not against the USA. Only an ignorant fool would deliberately trigger a situation which might result in a planetary nuclear holocaust. But Russia has plenty of other options.
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I will end on a semi-optimistic note: “Biden” has already surprised me at least twice and maybe “he” will do it again? Quite a few Russian analysts seem to think that Sullivan is the voice of sanity in the US admin. We also know that General Milley was not willing to risk a Chinese preemptive attack (which would be a fart in a hurricane compared to what the Russians could unleash against the USA if they decided to preempt a US attack on Russia). Maybe there are even more such sane voices in the US state (deep or otherwise)? Maybe the US will do what Russia did and try appear to retreat just to win time? Even that would be preferable to a fullscale war. Besides, the Russians are well aware of a possible delaying strategy, hence they made their ultimatum pegged to a specific deadline: “show us something tangible, not just platitudes, or else we will take unilateral action“.

Any sane US President would not try to “call Putin’s bluff”.

Let’s hope and pray that “Biden” has enough sanity to understand that. The US has just announced that an official reply will be presented to Moscow on Friday.

I remain very, very dubious, but hope dies last, I suppose.

Andrei

Submitted by snoopydawg on Tue, 12/21/2021 - 7:38pm

I think that Putin will do what best protects Russia

@CB

and Russia’s interests. It’s why he took Crimea and went into Syria. He has been letting Israel attack Syria without much pushback, but then he helped Assad wipe out ISIS. Israel says that it’s targeting Iran and not so much Syrians. I could be wrong, but it’s what I’ve seen. Putin’s warnings about our pushing his red lines is to protect Russia from NATO. It’s too bad that we have so many stupid people in government that don’t care how many lives are lost. Putin does.

Joe posted a great link to a naked capitalism essay. And of course MoA has been on top of this.

Another great essay on when the war in Ukraine started.

https://www.europereloaded.com/the-obama-regimes-plan-to-seize-the-russi...

ERIC ZUESSE

The U.S. regime under Barack Obama had been planning, ever since June 2011, a takeover of Ukraine, in order to become enabled ultimately to place its nuclear missiles within less than five minutes flying-time to a first-strike blitz destruction of the Kremlin (thus preventing any effective Russian counter-attack). However, things didn’t work out quite according to the plan for the takeover of Ukraine, and here is how the war in Ukraine actually began:

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What could happen next if the USA rejects the Russian ultimatum? December 21, 2021 There is a lot of discussions going on about what Russia might do if the West ignores the Russian ultimatum. All I propose to do here is just share a few thoughts with you. This is not an thorough analysis, but only some musings of mine about what I hear. First, Putin is both very predictable and, at the same time, very unpredictable. The predictable thing about Putin is that he only uses force when there is no other option left. The very unpredictable thing about Putin is how and where he is willing to use force. He did not intervene in the Donbass, which everybody expected, and he did not allow the LDNR to take even just Mariupol, nevermind the rest of the Ukraine. But when he moved a special task force into Syria, nobody saw it coming. Ditto for the move to protect Crimea from a Ukrainian invasion. When assessing Putin’s possible next steps, we need to keep in mind this paradox about him being both predictable and unpredictable. So moving nuclear nukes to Kaliningrad and/or Belarus is not the only option for Russia. Second, there is no way Russia will simply start a war, not against the Ukraine, not against the EU or NATO and not against the USA. Only an ignorant fool would deliberately trigger a situation which might result in a planetary nuclear holocaust. But Russia has plenty of other options. ... I will end on a semi-optimistic note: “Biden” has already surprised me at least twice and maybe “he” will do it again? Quite a few Russian analysts seem to think that Sullivan is the voice of sanity in the US admin. We also know that General Milley was not willing to risk a Chinese preemptive attack (which would be a fart in a hurricane compared to what the Russians could unleash against the USA if they decided to preempt a US attack on Russia). Maybe there are even more such sane voices in the US state (deep or otherwise)? Maybe the US will do what Russia did and try appear to retreat just to win time? Even that would be preferable to a fullscale war. Besides, the Russians are well aware of a possible delaying strategy, hence they made their ultimatum pegged to a specific deadline: “show us something tangible, not just platitudes, or else we will take unilateral action“. Any sane US President would not try to “call Putin’s bluff”. Let’s hope and pray that “Biden” has enough sanity to understand that. The US has just announced that an official reply will be presented to Moscow on Friday. I remain very, very dubious, but hope dies last, I suppose. Andrei

Submitted by Pricknick on Tue, 12/21/2021 - 7:58pm

https://thesaker.is/

@CB
While I don't always agree with the personal beliefs of the sites author, the reporting, links and commentaries are well worth the observation.

What could happen next if the USA rejects the Russian ultimatum? December 21, 2021 There is a lot of discussions going on about what Russia might do if the West ignores the Russian ultimatum. All I propose to do here is just share a few thoughts with you. This is not an thorough analysis, but only some musings of mine about what I hear. First, Putin is both very predictable and, at the same time, very unpredictable. The predictable thing about Putin is that he only uses force when there is no other option left. The very unpredictable thing about Putin is how and where he is willing to use force. He did not intervene in the Donbass, which everybody expected, and he did not allow the LDNR to take even just Mariupol, nevermind the rest of the Ukraine. But when he moved a special task force into Syria, nobody saw it coming. Ditto for the move to protect Crimea from a Ukrainian invasion. When assessing Putin’s possible next steps, we need to keep in mind this paradox about him being both predictable and unpredictable. So moving nuclear nukes to Kaliningrad and/or Belarus is not the only option for Russia. Second, there is no way Russia will simply start a war, not against the Ukraine, not against the EU or NATO and not against the USA. Only an ignorant fool would deliberately trigger a situation which might result in a planetary nuclear holocaust. But Russia has plenty of other options. ... I will end on a semi-optimistic note: “Biden” has already surprised me at least twice and maybe “he” will do it again? Quite a few Russian analysts seem to think that Sullivan is the voice of sanity in the US admin. We also know that General Milley was not willing to risk a Chinese preemptive attack (which would be a fart in a hurricane compared to what the Russians could unleash against the USA if they decided to preempt a US attack on Russia). Maybe there are even more such sane voices in the US state (deep or otherwise)? Maybe the US will do what Russia did and try appear to retreat just to win time? Even that would be preferable to a fullscale war. Besides, the Russians are well aware of a possible delaying strategy, hence they made their ultimatum pegged to a specific deadline: “show us something tangible, not just platitudes, or else we will take unilateral action“. Any sane US President would not try to “call Putin’s bluff”. Let’s hope and pray that “Biden” has enough sanity to understand that. The US has just announced that an official reply will be presented to Moscow on Friday. I remain very, very dubious, but hope dies last, I suppose. Andrei

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Submitted by humphrey on Tue, 12/21/2021 - 7:29pm

This is kind of foreboding!

Putin says Russia has 'nowhere to retreat' over Ukraine https://t.co/tjGyLAzVb4 pic.twitter.com/BKqgJ72PB4

— Reuters (@Reuters) December 21, 2021

Submitted by Pricknick on Tue, 12/21/2021 - 7:53pm

us/nato is no match

to a russia/china agreement.
The bully gets a black eye.
My countries government has lost it's mind.
I don't trust it.
I highly recommend those who care to tune into https://thesaker.is/
The world stage is being shook.

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Submitted by doh1304 on Wed, 12/22/2021 - 1:26am

Hmmm, a false flag using chemical weapons

Where have I heard that before?

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Submitted by The Liberal Moonbat on Wed, 12/22/2021 - 3:15am

"False Flag"

The favorite two words of everyone who dares think the unthinkable about 9/11 and a whole bunch of other "call-to-action" events.

Imagine if this DOES go through; we have preemptive warning, so we might actually be able to catch them in the act - if so, how many taboo lines of inquiry might suddenly swing open for business...?

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