The Future of the Bernie Movement and the Political Revolution

Good article by Harold Meyerson on future possibilities created by the Sanders campaign for president. I wanted to share it here.

Her's a quick part. Don't know how to do quotes here. I'll learn.

"The Long March of Bernie’s Army
Where it came from; where it’s headed.

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But Sanders’s is not a campaign that history will judge by the number of votes he won. Like only a handful of predecessor campaigns, like no presidential campaign since Barry Goldwater’s, his will be judged by whether it sparked a movement that transformed America. That’s the metric by which Sanders himself measures his success: Whether his campaign can build what he calls a revolution, inspiring his supporters (and some of Hillary Clinton’s, too), once this year’s campaign is done, to build the political power and social movements that can break the hold that wealth exerts on politics and policy, and thereby re-create the mass prosperity that was once America’s calling card to the world.

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Leaders of unions, community-organizing groups, minority organizations and student groups, prominent environmentalists and Sanders activists, precinct walkers and online campaigners—some longtime allies, some total strangers to one another—are “all in one large, shifting conversation,” in the words of one such leader, to figure out how to build the Revolution once the Sanders campaign is done.

Some are planning national conclaves, like the “People’s Summit” in Chicago in mid-June, where the disparate groups in the Sanders universe will gather to lay out a common agenda. Some are planning how to prod the delegates at the Democratic Convention (including some pledged to Clinton) to shift the party well to the left. More fundamentally, they are debating ideas on how to create something—organizations, coalitions, networks, local, state, national—that can capture and build on the energy and politics that the Sanders campaign has unleashed."

http://prospect.org/article/long-march-bernie%E2%80%99s-army

It's a very interesting post and worth reading in its entirety.

The battle for Bernie's nomination is far from over, but win or lose, we need to create the political revolution.

I'll be back later tonight to read people's comments and respond.

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Four Freedoms Party

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Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what stings is justice. -H. L. Mencken
A country without a memory is a country of madmen.-George Santayana
An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailments of all republics. --Plutarch

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But people will find names organically.

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Was at a town hall, he was asked about healthcare. He said that "being a human being" made him believe in healthcare as a human right.

Then he talked abou his religious beliefs

"I believe that what human nature is about is that everybody in this room impacts everybody else in all kinds of ways that we can’t even understand. It’s beyond intellect. It’s a spiritual, emotional thing. So I believe that when we do the right thing, when we try to treat people with respect and dignity, when we say that that child who is hungry is my child, I think we are more human when we do that, than when we say “hey, this whole world is me, I need more and more, I don’t care about anyone else.” That’s my religion. That’s what I believe in."

It's not about party, it's about our beliefs.

Bernie's

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

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The Human League — I’ve often thought that that would be a neat name for an actual political movement.

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Human Reason Party? HL had some great tunes. I have some on vinyl. Terrific, absolutely imperative diary and comment thread. T and R!!

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But the Unity Party is a good name too.

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FEEL THE BERN: "But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing." - Thomas Paine
"Here I Stand, I can do no other." - Attributed to Martin Luther, 1521

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I hope Bernie is president for this revolution but either way, it's happening if we work hard. Our youngest adults are hungry for an opportunity and if we work with them, we will achieve a future with that opportunity.

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There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams

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and fixing the quotes.

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From the article:
The Long March of Bernie’s Army - Where it came from; where it’s headed. - By Harold Meyerson

they can recite all the reasons why Obama for America never got off the ground; some of them even worked for the Rainbow until they realized there were better places to make social change. Most of them are painfully familiar with the tragic-comic history of the American left, a largely marginal tendency in American politics that has often squandered its moments of opportunity with displays of purity and rigidity that have only left it more marginal.
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The challenge of creating an enduring left out of Sanders’s young supporters, who have brought the passion, energy, and numbers to his campaign, is particularly daunting. “Presidential elections generate excitement unlike any other,” says a veteran union leader. “They ignite a level of energy and self-activity that’s hard to capture and transfer. We can’t assume that 100,000 young people who have self-organized in the campaign are going to respond to being told, ‘Here’s the next big thing.’ They won’t come over if it’s presented that way.”

Above quote (the underlined part) tells me that there is quite a bit of self-hating attitude in it, considering that the author is a Socialist.

Later on the author quotes some German, who wrote about why the US had never Socialists. Now all of the sudden, he asks us to wonder about why the US has Socialists.

IN 1906, GERMAN SOCIOLOGIST Werner Sombart wrote an essay entitled “Why Is There No Socialism in the United States?” Sombart was just the first of numerous commentators—among them Daniel Bell and Seymour Martin Lipset—who sought to explain why the United States, alone among industrialized democracies, never developed a major socialist movement. (Sombart’s answer to this conundrum was that the upward mobility and higher living standards that European immigrants found here meant that socialism in America was stillborn.) - - - [I wonder if that is the correct explanation. Of course I remember the fifties when the dollar was 6 - 8 Deutsche Mark, care packages to the Germans included nylons and everybody was in awe of NASA and the man on the moon. The US propaganda worked really well, America was supposed to be most advantaged, rich and on the leading edge in science and technology. - that was then and it ended with the Vietnam War, not only inside the US, but also in the view of many then young Europeans. Just saying]
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In the wake of the Sanders campaign, however, we suddenly need to pose quite a different question: Why are there socialists in the United States? Who are all these people who now not only flock to Bernie’s banner but deem themselves socialists? What do they even mean by socialism?- - -[Oh, yeah, what do they mean by socialism, I always ask myself what do they mean by being progressives. Even worse, what do the mean by liberal, when HRC is very authoritarian in her way she conducted her foreign policy - Never mind.]

Funny. My guess is the US always had Socialists, but they were so much attacked and silenced, that nobody knew about them anymore. Could that be? Now, as Sanders comes along and for the first time doesn't budge and stubbornly continues to self-declare himself a Socialist and his basic political points are "ringing" in American ears as some what real and truthful, ... uh, oh, now we have to ask ourselves why does the US have Socialists. Really sounds like a zig-zag tricky way to make an 'interesting argument'.

The author goes on to give an account how many Americans now favor Socialism. Apparently that's new.

This is something new under the political sun. At no time in U.S. history have so many Americans supported a socialist presidential candidate, much less called themselves socialists. The apogee of socialists’ electoral performance came in 1912, when Eugene V. Debs won 6 percent of the vote running for president on the Socialist Party ticket. What’s more, the mystery of this socialist emergence is deepened by the fact that there is no visible organization in the United States that is recruiting people to socialism. The Democratic Socialists of America (of which I’m a vice-chair) [oops, sorry, didn't know that, but what the heck I still say what I want]has just several thousand members, and is almost entirely absent from many American cities. At first glance, this new socialist presence just seems to have sprung up, unsummoned, unannounced.

Ok, it was a surprise to the author apparently. Why?

Still, Americans on the left have almost always overwhelmingly preferred the liberal to the socialist label. Why, then, this sudden shift? One reason is the collapse of Soviet communism, that ferocious pretender to the socialist throne, has allowed younger Americans to identify socialism with the social democratic policies of Western Europe.

In other words, before the Sowjet Union collapsed all Americans were afraid to support anything related to Socialism or Social Democracy, because... heck, I guess they were afraid, right? How dare could one believe there is something worth in Social Democracy and Socialism. Never mind.

But the prime mover of millions of Americans into the socialist column has been the near complete dysfunctionality of contemporary American capitalism as it affects all but the top. Where once the regulated, unionized, and semi-socialized capitalism of the mid-20th century produced a vibrant middle-class majority, the deregulated, deunionized, and financialized capitalism of the past 35 years has produced record levels of inequality, insecurity, a shrinking middle class, and scant economic opportunities (along with record economic burdens) for the young.

Ok, but I guess those youngsters, they don't know anything else than they have now, they are younger than 35 and they only could have learned about the better "good times" from their parents.
Never mind.

But the forces that Sanders’s candidacy has nourished face a more fundamental challenge than the anti-war young of the 1960s confronted: transforming not just a party or a foreign policy, but the economic and political order of the past four decades. The Sanders campaign has called the young to the barricades, but what will they do when it ends? “All these people who are starting to question capitalism and the role of the super rich,” wonders Stephen Lerner, who led the campaign that successfully organized thousands of big-city janitors in the 1990s, “how do they dig into campaigns that substantively address those problems?”
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Some in the Sanders generation will surely turn to electoral politics. “Environmental justice activists will run candidates for city council,” Wong predicts. “Housing activists will do the same; so will racial justice activists. That’s all going to happen in the next four years. This is a guarantee.”

That's good, if it happens.

“There is a political culture clash,” says one labor leader who’s worked closely with the People For Bernie activists. “They would open-source this whole project and have individual activists do what they wanted. We believe in everyone marching together. It’s like the anarchists meet the Stalinists.”
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“Political change happens slowly until it doesn’t,” says Working Families Party National Director Dan Cantor. “Bernie has changed what it’s possible to say.”- - -[so, Americans are not any more afraid to "like a socialist", nice, it's about time]
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It’s precisely because the limits of the possible have so suddenly expanded, in ways that make possible the construction of a genuine democratic left, that the discussions on how to build that left have become so intense.
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Cantor has a clear sense of the challenge, at once electoral and doctrinal. “What we have to do is create a program that shows the contrast between what most working people want out of their government and what more corporate-minded Democratic members of Congress are willing to do,” he says. “It’s not conceptually complicated, but it’s a lot of work.”
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That challenge would grow steeper if the most left-wing (or just most intransigent) Sanders supporters declined to support Hillary Clinton in a general election against Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, thereby estranging the vast majority of progressive institutions and individuals. It’s inconceivable that Sanders himself or any of the traditional organizations that have backed his campaign would take that position, but some Sanders supporters have argued that Clinton is no better than the neo-fascist or extreme right-winger against whom she’ll likely face off. (The one historic antecedent for such lunacy is that of the German communists of 1932 and 1933, who argued that their rival left party, the Social Democrats, were a greater danger than the Nazis. That they were proven wrong was small consolation.)

And here is the problem. I don't understand why the author uses this comparison. Those who refuse to support HRC against Trump in the GE, are again the real villains, right? They are at fault for the chaos of a Trump Presidency, right? So, nothing has changed.

The Socialists and Social Democrats who don't support the "authoritarian and established Democrats in the Democratic Party", because they happen to have betrayed everything they could with regards to their foreign policies AND domestic policies, are again at fault. Did I misunderstand something here?

Those policies were NOT supporting the working class and the poor. And all those, for whom identity group policies are more important than the overall all-inclusive social policies of equality (that include all identity groups), those, who claim otherwise (see DOV diary on TOP for example), are now the ones who throw the "chaos loving leftist Sanders supporters, who don't want to throw their vote behind HRC, under the bus". I guess because they saw their own little privileges to be member or on its way to become member of the establishment Democrats fading away. Oh no, if they would give in to those god-awful left-wing Sanders supporters, who decline to support HRC, that's the beginning of the end of total chaos and anarchy. Sounds somewhat familiar.

Well, thanks God, Sanders has some nerves. At least I believe he knows where to start and which things have priority, one of them to get money out of the campaigns, change the electoral system and brake the neck of "too big to fail" corporations.

I don't like to diss the Sanders supporters or those, who don't support anyone and even don't want to vote anymore. They have all the right to decide that for themselves without being attacked for it. At least it would be nice if that would not happen here.

Will they come over at all? Are all these experienced activists even right in hoping that this time will be different, that this time a powerful social democratic left might just take root in America’s political soil?

I think they are. Chiefly because Bernie Sanders’s campaign didn’t create a new American left. It revealed it.

ok, hopefully, I don't hold my breath though. Oh my, I guess I forgot to stop talking.

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Thanks for taking the time to put it together
and share it with us.

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Laffin' and shakin' my head.

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“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire

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Hi Mimi,

I enjoyed your analysis. There have been socialists in the US for over 100 years, and we even had one run for President in '48.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_A._Wallace

1948 presidential election

Wallace left his editorship position in 1948 to make an unsuccessful run as the Progressive Party's presidential candidate in the 1948 U.S. presidential election. With Idaho Democratic U.S. Senator Glen H. Taylor as his vice presidential running mate, his platform advocated universal government health insurance, an end to the nascent Cold War, full voting rights for black Americans, and an end to segregation. His campaign included African American candidates campaigning alongside white candidates in the segregated South and he also refused to appear before segregated audiences or to eat or stay in segregated establishments.

Time magazine, which opposed the Wallace candidacy, described Wallace as "ostentatiously" riding through the towns and cities of the segregated South "with his Negro secretary beside him".[36] A barrage of eggs and tomatoes were hurled at Wallace and struck him and his campaign members during the tour. Wallace's opponent President Truman, condemned such mob violence as "highly un-American business which violated the American concept of fair play." State authorities in Virginia sidestepped enforcing its own segregation laws by declaring Wallace's campaign gatherings as private parties.[37]

The "Guru letters" reappeared now and were published, seriously damaging his campaign.[22] More damage was done to Wallace's campaign when journalists H.L. Mencken and Dorothy Thompson, both longtime and vocal New Deal opponents,[38] charged that Wallace and the Progressives were under the covert control of Communists.

Wallace's refusal to publicly disavow the endorsement of his candidacy by the Communist Party (USA) cost him the backing of many anti-Communist liberals and of independent socialist Norman Thomas. Wallace suffered a decisive defeat in the election to the Democratic incumbent Harry S. Truman. He finished in fourth place with 2.4% of the popular vote; some historians now believe his candidacy was a blessing in disguise for the President, as Wallace's frequent criticisms of Truman's foreign policy, combined with his avowed acceptance of Communist support, served as a refutation of the Republicans' claim that Truman was "soft on communism". Dixiecrat presidential candidate Strom Thurmond finished ahead of Wallace in the popular vote. Thurmond managed to carry four states in the Deep South (all in which he was designated as the "Democratic" nominee), gaining 39 electoral votes to Wallace's electoral total of zero.

The bolding is mine. Bernie is a better candidate for many reasons, and we still have a good chance of winning. But, I think is important for us all to understand that this movement, this struggle is a long term effort that will never end.

Thanks again for your thoughtful comments.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

It's a long struggle.

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reminds me how little I know and how important it would be for me to study the history of the Republican and Democratic party and its campaigns.

I kind of apologize for my ranting along. Coming from being not knowledgeable of US history and not having grown up in this country and just with a few memories of Germany til the mid seventies, it is hard for me to comment.

But I can't help but to admit that the reason I often got so mad at TOP in the recent years is that I felt the manipulation via emotionally driven "persuasion efforts" by some groups too heavy.

I have a heart for all activists who defend their identity-based political issues, be it Native Americans, Afro-Americans, the LGBT community, the Latino community, the white and black working class, the feminist movement etc. I would never argue against their activism and always want their voices to be heard and listened to.

Where I can't follow anymore, is when one identity-based political issue is played against the next identity-based political issue, when one group thinks their issues are more important than the next groups. And I am sensitive to fake attempts to gain sympathies from one group versus the other for political advantage of your elected or campaigning candidates.

It is imo very easy to understand that Democratic Socialism by definition includes all issues brought forward by an identity-based political group via the clear commitment to equality for all people in the US, no matter what kind of self-declared identity issues and problems they bring forward. Democratic Socialism is based on equality (not just equal opportunities, but equal rights) and in my understanding that was always meant to be inclusive of all identity-based groups. May be that is my misunderstanding. But to me it is essential. And therefore I got more upset about the division that was constantly incited by many commentators at TOP.

In addition I am very sensitive to tons and tons of anti-socialist and anti-communist propaganda as we could experience it in Germany specifically during the cold war broadcasted by the US. (as much as former East Germans would go nuts over communist apparatchiks' propaganda) I am in no way naive about what it means to live in a communist country. Even if I am not educated in "Marxist Theorie" I have some ideas about how people on the ground lived under communist regimes. The Wall and borders around former East Germany was not built to keep the "immigrants" out, but to imprison East Germans. It really would amaze me that even today some Americans can't imagine that you can support true democratic socialism without being more or less a closet communist. That's the impression you get as a German from American propaganda that is spread overseas.

So, yes, if people, who support a Sanders candidacy, are called and are compared to communists in the 1932 to 1933, who went after the Socialists, I feel very lost. I also feel lost when some of the Afro-American community call others in the Afro-American community (like Glen Ford or Cornel West) being on the fringe and not working for the working class or poor of their own community, while themselves identifying with establishment Democrats, ignoring or sweeping their own tendency of easily being co-opted under the rug. May be I do not get the whole situation right or misunderstand stuff or don't know what in their own history motivates them to cause so much division, but that's something that really got under my skin.

I am at a stage where I don't want to talk anymore. I wish all of you luck. Hopefully, no matter with whom and how, you can change your foreign policies, you social policies and your system of a representative republic, which doesn't seem to function that well. You have my back, but not being American, I think I should withdraw from talking my mind (and hopefully study again on my own).

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Mimi, I can only speak for myself. I have been/still am a very proud life-long Futurist. It's an optimist who's also somewhat visionary. Remember all the nonsense the Corporate clowns kept spreading about be very afraid of the future back in the 1960s? You know, "god forbid if the peace, love, ecological, etc. crowd grab control out of our fossilized mindset hands!!!" Snort. There have always been American Socialists/Futurists. It's just that we scare the living crap outta the corporistas. I've been walking in a political wilderness most of my life. Couple that with living in east central Florida. This revolution will survive the Bernster. It has to as we are "Up Against The Wall" now cos of climate change!!

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We probably all expected there to be some contention here at some point, because why else … except that we're all unique. Plus, drama seems to be quite a motivator for some (as we have seen elsewhere), but hey, we can also do it differently if we choose to.

We can all just read each person's thoughts without too much judgement while extracting something meaningful and informing? Yes, and how one presents their thoughts and responses are important also.

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"That he not busy being born
is busy dying."

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Love the version with The Band too. As a teacher I've always liked the verse (from memory so may not be exact)
"...preachers preach of evil fates and teachers teach that knowledge waits, but even the president of the united states must sometimes have to stand naked."

Thanks for the reminding me of this song.

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I've mentioned before that I watch Morning Joe every morning for the express purpose of seeing what talking points the MSM is going to push for the day/week. It's the best place IMO to gauge the media group think. While I care next to nothing about the Republican side of things, it's always good to hear what establishment Dems are pushing which you can get reliably from the likes of Howard Dean, Harold Ford Jr., etc.

Okay, this morning it's like some sort of fog lifted and they are taking Bernie Sanders seriously! They said he is going to have a lot of upcoming victories and that he has energized and organized a sector of the Democratic Party and the big question now is what will he do with the accumulated power and influence he has built during the convention and beyond. I was only listening with one ear, but I don't think they gave him a chance of actually winning, it was more focused on how effective of a power broker will he be?

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I read the entire Meyerson article and thought it was a great and interesting read. To me the most significant statement was that Bernie didn't create a movement, he revealed it. I completely agree with that. People have been waiting for literally years for any politician who stand up in public and start talking freely about things like single payer healthcare who would openly chastise both the public and TPTB for being so behind the curve. And then to make wealth inequality his central issue after we had already been pre-conditioned by Occupy was so damn invigorating! I think many felt - finally, someone who GETS IT and isn't just posturing for the sake of the election.

I agree with those who think that Bernie was a little too single-minded about wealth inequality and a bit slow to incorporate social/criminal injustice and BLM into his campaign, but he made the adjustment and IMO now has made that an integral component of his overall platform.

I do have some thoughts about the whole change from the inside or the outside the Party discussion but probably too long to post here and now.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

Bernie is going to fill a baseball stadium tonight in Seattle.

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Great article, and thanks. This is THE critical part of the Bernie movement, other than voting him into the presidency, of course!

Good to see you over here.

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I've enjoyed your writing at TOP, and am so glad to see you here. My experience is that the conversation and tone is much better at c99. Hope to read more pieces from the both of you!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

I begin to realize how much I self censored there over time.

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Everyone here has been so kind. I kind of had to build a wall around me at TOP, so I'm still learning how to be comfortable.

Hope to see you around!

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Were you banned from Dkos or are you just staying away?
You helped carry the cause there for a long time.

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Long story, but basically got accused of something I didn't do. I blew my stack, and that's all she wrote! haha.

Thanks for the kind words, and it's always great to see your writing, Tom.

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Their loss.

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A great group of people, for sure!

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Sorry to hear you were banned. I loved reading your diaries. DKos has gone from "must read every day" to "I'll check it out if I'm bored".
Glad to find you here, along with so many others.

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Another Refugee from the Great Orange Purity Troll

Sure appreciate it, Ruscle. Everyone here has been very welcoming -- it's a breath of fresh air, for sure!

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Bernie is going to the White House this year.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

Daiily Kos this morning.

There is something deeply wrong there. There is a lot of hate.

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There needs to be talking and listening for communication. A conflict resolution needs to keep both talking and listening active on both sides. Kos does not lead he owns. Or pwns. Same technique as the GOP, same result.

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Over at TOP, they have become narrow, partisan, and spiteful. Whenever you limit free speech you stifle creativity, community, and debate. There is a viscous vibe over there. Kos has made his bed and I want no part of it (except the BNR). Enough about TOP!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

That challenge would grow steeper if the most left-wing (or just most intransigent) Sanders supporters declined to support Hillary Clinton in a general election against Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, thereby estranging the vast majority of progressive institutions and individuals. It’s inconceivable that Sanders himself or any of the traditional organizations that have backed his campaign would take that position, but some Sanders supporters have argued that Clinton is no better than the neo-fascist or extreme right-winger against whom she’ll likely face off. (The one historic antecedent for such lunacy is that of the German communists of 1932 and 1933, who argued that their rival left party, the Social Democrats, were a greater danger than the Nazis. That they were proven wrong was small consolation.) True to its open-source principles, Wong says, People For Bernie won’t endorse a candidate, but she makes clear that the group plans to “release explainers” on the candidates and how close the race is in various states. “We’ll say, ‘Here’s why this is important if you live in a swing state.’ We’ll be responsible for, and to, the constituency we’ve created.”

Mocking and belittling people into voting for the lesser of evils has been the "adults" strategy for 40 fucking years. They have accomplished nothing. We are worse off today than we were in 1950. When they can show they've actually accomplished something, come let me know. Until then, #BernieOrBust.

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I absolutely WILL NOT vote for the Shrill. I have planned on writing in the Bernster, and changing to an Indie for years! Now, I'm gettin' 'er done!

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

Hi, this is an amazing diary with equally great comments. Gonna have to come back later to absorb everything but wanted to say thanks to all.

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I've been lurking '99 for a while, and just signed on.

I, too, am a refugee from TOP. I actually disengaged from commenting or posting there when DK5 went live. I've logged in three or perhaps four times since that day, but had been returning to lurk with ever-growing horror as I saw the true nature of that site coming closer to the surface, culminating in the March 15 edict. Your post and conversation here, particularly with GeeBeeBee, inspired me to sign up.

Geebeebee - I'm also really glad to see you here. I always loved your diaries. IIRC, you're from Brownbackistan as well? I'm in South Central Kansas.

Sorry to be so disjointed in my first post. I'm just happy to be here.

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Want an axe to break the ice.

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