The Future of the Bernie Movement and the Political Revolution
Good article by Harold Meyerson on future possibilities created by the Sanders campaign for president. I wanted to share it here.
Her's a quick part. Don't know how to do quotes here. I'll learn.
"The Long March of Bernie’s Army
Where it came from; where it’s headed.snip
But Sanders’s is not a campaign that history will judge by the number of votes he won. Like only a handful of predecessor campaigns, like no presidential campaign since Barry Goldwater’s, his will be judged by whether it sparked a movement that transformed America. That’s the metric by which Sanders himself measures his success: Whether his campaign can build what he calls a revolution, inspiring his supporters (and some of Hillary Clinton’s, too), once this year’s campaign is done, to build the political power and social movements that can break the hold that wealth exerts on politics and policy, and thereby re-create the mass prosperity that was once America’s calling card to the world.
snip
Leaders of unions, community-organizing groups, minority organizations and student groups, prominent environmentalists and Sanders activists, precinct walkers and online campaigners—some longtime allies, some total strangers to one another—are “all in one large, shifting conversation,” in the words of one such leader, to figure out how to build the Revolution once the Sanders campaign is done.
Some are planning national conclaves, like the “People’s Summit” in Chicago in mid-June, where the disparate groups in the Sanders universe will gather to lay out a common agenda. Some are planning how to prod the delegates at the Democratic Convention (including some pledged to Clinton) to shift the party well to the left. More fundamentally, they are debating ideas on how to create something—organizations, coalitions, networks, local, state, national—that can capture and build on the energy and politics that the Sanders campaign has unleashed."
http://prospect.org/article/long-march-bernie%E2%80%99s-army
It's a very interesting post and worth reading in its entirety.
The battle for Bernie's nomination is far from over, but win or lose, we need to create the political revolution.
I'll be back later tonight to read people's comments and respond.
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Four Freedoms Party
Four Freedoms Party
Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what stings is justice. -H. L. Mencken
A country without a memory is a country of madmen.-George Santayana
An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailments of all republics. --Plutarch
Progressive coalition? /eom
I like democratic socialists,
But people will find names organically.
Favorite Bernie moment
Was at a town hall, he was asked about healthcare. He said that "being a human being" made him believe in healthcare as a human right.
Then he talked abou his religious beliefs
"I believe that what human nature is about is that everybody in this room impacts everybody else in all kinds of ways that we can’t even understand. It’s beyond intellect. It’s a spiritual, emotional thing. So I believe that when we do the right thing, when we try to treat people with respect and dignity, when we say that that child who is hungry is my child, I think we are more human when we do that, than when we say “hey, this whole world is me, I need more and more, I don’t care about anyone else.” That’s my religion. That’s what I believe in."
It's not about party, it's about our beliefs.
Bernie's
Mamazing2
Agree completely.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
In the Eighties, there was a pop group called The Human League.
The Human League — I’ve often thought that that would be a neat name for an actual political movement.
Human League
Human Reason Party? HL had some great tunes. I have some on vinyl. Terrific, absolutely imperative diary and comment thread. T and R!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
I still like 'Occupy'
But the Unity Party is a good name too.
FEEL THE BERN: "But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing." - Thomas Paine
"Here I Stand, I can do no other." - Attributed to Martin Luther, 1521
Both good.
Thanks for the diary TomP!
I hope Bernie is president for this revolution but either way, it's happening if we work hard. Our youngest adults are hungry for an opportunity and if we work with them, we will achieve a future with that opportunity.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Good to see you here, Kharma.
Thanks for putting it on the front page
and fixing the quotes.
that article rubs me a little differently than most of you ...
From the article:
The Long March of Bernie’s Army - Where it came from; where it’s headed. - By Harold Meyerson
Above quote (the underlined part) tells me that there is quite a bit of self-hating attitude in it, considering that the author is a Socialist.
Later on the author quotes some German, who wrote about why the US had never Socialists. Now all of the sudden, he asks us to wonder about why the US has Socialists.
Funny. My guess is the US always had Socialists, but they were so much attacked and silenced, that nobody knew about them anymore. Could that be? Now, as Sanders comes along and for the first time doesn't budge and stubbornly continues to self-declare himself a Socialist and his basic political points are "ringing" in American ears as some what real and truthful, ... uh, oh, now we have to ask ourselves why does the US have Socialists. Really sounds like a zig-zag tricky way to make an 'interesting argument'.
The author goes on to give an account how many Americans now favor Socialism. Apparently that's new.
Ok, it was a surprise to the author apparently. Why?
In other words, before the Sowjet Union collapsed all Americans were afraid to support anything related to Socialism or Social Democracy, because... heck, I guess they were afraid, right? How dare could one believe there is something worth in Social Democracy and Socialism. Never mind.
Ok, but I guess those youngsters, they don't know anything else than they have now, they are younger than 35 and they only could have learned about the better "good times" from their parents.
Never mind.
That's good, if it happens.
And here is the problem. I don't understand why the author uses this comparison. Those who refuse to support HRC against Trump in the GE, are again the real villains, right? They are at fault for the chaos of a Trump Presidency, right? So, nothing has changed.
The Socialists and Social Democrats who don't support the "authoritarian and established Democrats in the Democratic Party", because they happen to have betrayed everything they could with regards to their foreign policies AND domestic policies, are again at fault. Did I misunderstand something here?
Those policies were NOT supporting the working class and the poor. And all those, for whom identity group policies are more important than the overall all-inclusive social policies of equality (that include all identity groups), those, who claim otherwise (see DOV diary on TOP for example), are now the ones who throw the "chaos loving leftist Sanders supporters, who don't want to throw their vote behind HRC, under the bus". I guess because they saw their own little privileges to be member or on its way to become member of the establishment Democrats fading away. Oh no, if they would give in to those god-awful left-wing Sanders supporters, who decline to support HRC, that's the beginning of the end of total chaos and anarchy. Sounds somewhat familiar.
Well, thanks God, Sanders has some nerves. At least I believe he knows where to start and which things have priority, one of them to get money out of the campaigns, change the electoral system and brake the neck of "too big to fail" corporations.
I don't like to diss the Sanders supporters or those, who don't support anyone and even don't want to vote anymore. They have all the right to decide that for themselves without being attacked for it. At least it would be nice if that would not happen here.
ok, hopefully, I don't hold my breath though. Oh my, I guess I forgot to stop talking.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Superb comment and analysis, mimi.
Thanks for taking the time to put it together
and share it with us.
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
Wow, mimi, well done.
Laffin' and shakin' my head.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
Anyone heard of Henry Wallace?
Hi Mimi,
I enjoyed your analysis. There have been socialists in the US for over 100 years, and we even had one run for President in '48.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_A._Wallace
The bolding is mine. Bernie is a better candidate for many reasons, and we still have a good chance of winning. But, I think is important for us all to understand that this movement, this struggle is a long term effort that will never end.
Thanks again for your thoughtful comments.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Excellent comment,
It's a long struggle.
thank you, lookout, your comment just
reminds me how little I know and how important it would be for me to study the history of the Republican and Democratic party and its campaigns.
I kind of apologize for my ranting along. Coming from being not knowledgeable of US history and not having grown up in this country and just with a few memories of Germany til the mid seventies, it is hard for me to comment.
But I can't help but to admit that the reason I often got so mad at TOP in the recent years is that I felt the manipulation via emotionally driven "persuasion efforts" by some groups too heavy.
I have a heart for all activists who defend their identity-based political issues, be it Native Americans, Afro-Americans, the LGBT community, the Latino community, the white and black working class, the feminist movement etc. I would never argue against their activism and always want their voices to be heard and listened to.
Where I can't follow anymore, is when one identity-based political issue is played against the next identity-based political issue, when one group thinks their issues are more important than the next groups. And I am sensitive to fake attempts to gain sympathies from one group versus the other for political advantage of your elected or campaigning candidates.
It is imo very easy to understand that Democratic Socialism by definition includes all issues brought forward by an identity-based political group via the clear commitment to equality for all people in the US, no matter what kind of self-declared identity issues and problems they bring forward. Democratic Socialism is based on equality (not just equal opportunities, but equal rights) and in my understanding that was always meant to be inclusive of all identity-based groups. May be that is my misunderstanding. But to me it is essential. And therefore I got more upset about the division that was constantly incited by many commentators at TOP.
In addition I am very sensitive to tons and tons of anti-socialist and anti-communist propaganda as we could experience it in Germany specifically during the cold war broadcasted by the US. (as much as former East Germans would go nuts over communist apparatchiks' propaganda) I am in no way naive about what it means to live in a communist country. Even if I am not educated in "Marxist Theorie" I have some ideas about how people on the ground lived under communist regimes. The Wall and borders around former East Germany was not built to keep the "immigrants" out, but to imprison East Germans. It really would amaze me that even today some Americans can't imagine that you can support true democratic socialism without being more or less a closet communist. That's the impression you get as a German from American propaganda that is spread overseas.
So, yes, if people, who support a Sanders candidacy, are called and are compared to communists in the 1932 to 1933, who went after the Socialists, I feel very lost. I also feel lost when some of the Afro-American community call others in the Afro-American community (like Glen Ford or Cornel West) being on the fringe and not working for the working class or poor of their own community, while themselves identifying with establishment Democrats, ignoring or sweeping their own tendency of easily being co-opted under the rug. May be I do not get the whole situation right or misunderstand stuff or don't know what in their own history motivates them to cause so much division, but that's something that really got under my skin.
I am at a stage where I don't want to talk anymore. I wish all of you luck. Hopefully, no matter with whom and how, you can change your foreign policies, you social policies and your system of a representative republic, which doesn't seem to function that well. You have my back, but not being American, I think I should withdraw from talking my mind (and hopefully study again on my own).
https://www.euronews.com/live
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Mimi, I can only speak for myself. I have been/still am a very proud life-long Futurist. It's an optimist who's also somewhat visionary. Remember all the nonsense the Corporate clowns kept spreading about be very afraid of the future back in the 1960s? You know, "god forbid if the peace, love, ecological, etc. crowd grab control out of our fossilized mindset hands!!!" Snort. There have always been American Socialists/Futurists. It's just that we scare the living crap outta the corporistas. I've been walking in a political wilderness most of my life. Couple that with living in east central Florida. This revolution will survive the Bernster. It has to as we are "Up Against The Wall" now cos of climate change!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
In response to the comment thread, in part
We probably all expected there to be some contention here at some point, because why else … except that we're all unique. Plus, drama seems to be quite a motivator for some (as we have seen elsewhere), but hey, we can also do it differently if we choose to.
We can all just read each person's thoughts without too much judgement while extracting something meaningful and informing? Yes, and how one presents their thoughts and responses are important also.
[video:https://youtu.be/yYgRwefr-JU]
"That he not busy being born
is busy dying."
one of my faves
Love the version with The Band too. As a teacher I've always liked the verse (from memory so may not be exact)
"...preachers preach of evil fates and teachers teach that knowledge waits, but even the president of the united states must sometimes have to stand naked."
Thanks for the reminding me of this song.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Alert! Earth tilts on axis! MSM discussing this EXACT issue
I've mentioned before that I watch Morning Joe every morning for the express purpose of seeing what talking points the MSM is going to push for the day/week. It's the best place IMO to gauge the media group think. While I care next to nothing about the Republican side of things, it's always good to hear what establishment Dems are pushing which you can get reliably from the likes of Howard Dean, Harold Ford Jr., etc.
Okay, this morning it's like some sort of fog lifted and they are taking Bernie Sanders seriously! They said he is going to have a lot of upcoming victories and that he has energized and organized a sector of the Democratic Party and the big question now is what will he do with the accumulated power and influence he has built during the convention and beyond. I was only listening with one ear, but I don't think they gave him a chance of actually winning, it was more focused on how effective of a power broker will he be?
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I read the entire Meyerson article and thought it was a great and interesting read. To me the most significant statement was that Bernie didn't create a movement, he revealed it. I completely agree with that. People have been waiting for literally years for any politician who stand up in public and start talking freely about things like single payer healthcare who would openly chastise both the public and TPTB for being so behind the curve. And then to make wealth inequality his central issue after we had already been pre-conditioned by Occupy was so damn invigorating! I think many felt - finally, someone who GETS IT and isn't just posturing for the sake of the election.
I agree with those who think that Bernie was a little too single-minded about wealth inequality and a bit slow to incorporate social/criminal injustice and BLM into his campaign, but he made the adjustment and IMO now has made that an integral component of his overall platform.
I do have some thoughts about the whole change from the inside or the outside the Party discussion but probably too long to post here and now.
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
Interesting about Morning Joe.
Bernie is going to fill a baseball stadium tonight in Seattle.
Hey Tom!
Great article, and thanks. This is THE critical part of the Bernie movement, other than voting him into the presidency, of course!
Good to see you over here.
I'm glad to see you both
I've enjoyed your writing at TOP, and am so glad to see you here. My experience is that the conversation and tone is much better at c99. Hope to read more pieces from the both of you!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
It's freer.
I begin to realize how much I self censored there over time.
Thanks so much.
Everyone here has been so kind. I kind of had to build a wall around me at TOP, so I'm still learning how to be comfortable.
Hope to see you around!
Great to see you!
Were you banned from Dkos or are you just staying away?
You helped carry the cause there for a long time.
Yeah, banned.
Long story, but basically got accused of something I didn't do. I blew my stack, and that's all she wrote! haha.
Thanks for the kind words, and it's always great to see your writing, Tom.
You can keep up the good work here.
Their loss.
Thanks, Tom
A great group of people, for sure!
It is their loss
Sorry to hear you were banned. I loved reading your diaries. DKos has gone from "must read every day" to "I'll check it out if I'm bored".
Glad to find you here, along with so many others.
Another Refugee from the Great Orange Purity Troll
Thanks much!
Sure appreciate it, Ruscle. Everyone here has been very welcoming -- it's a breath of fresh air, for sure!
Goldwater lost in 1964
Bernie is going to the White House this year.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Much better discussion here than what I got on
Daiily Kos this morning.
There is something deeply wrong there. There is a lot of hate.
The conflict resolution process is busted
There needs to be talking and listening for communication. A conflict resolution needs to keep both talking and listening active on both sides. Kos does not lead he owns. Or pwns. Same technique as the GOP, same result.
"If we all threw our problems in a pile and saw everyone else's, we'd grab ours back" - Regina Brett
Bad feelings
Over at TOP, they have become narrow, partisan, and spiteful. Whenever you limit free speech you stifle creativity, community, and debate. There is a viscous vibe over there. Kos has made his bed and I want no part of it (except the BNR). Enough about TOP!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Loses all credibility - see bold.
Mocking and belittling people into voting for the lesser of evils has been the "adults" strategy for 40 fucking years. They have accomplished nothing. We are worse off today than we were in 1950. When they can show they've actually accomplished something, come let me know. Until then, #BernieOrBust.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Hear, hear!
I absolutely WILL NOT vote for the Shrill. I have planned on writing in the Bernster, and changing to an Indie for years! Now, I'm gettin' 'er done!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Hi, this is an amazing diary
Hi, this is an amazing diary with equally great comments. Gonna have to come back later to absorb everything but wanted to say thanks to all.
Hi TomP
I've been lurking '99 for a while, and just signed on.
I, too, am a refugee from TOP. I actually disengaged from commenting or posting there when DK5 went live. I've logged in three or perhaps four times since that day, but had been returning to lurk with ever-growing horror as I saw the true nature of that site coming closer to the surface, culminating in the March 15 edict. Your post and conversation here, particularly with GeeBeeBee, inspired me to sign up.
Geebeebee - I'm also really glad to see you here. I always loved your diaries. IIRC, you're from Brownbackistan as well? I'm in South Central Kansas.
Sorry to be so disjointed in my first post. I'm just happy to be here.
Want an axe to break the ice.
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