The undeclared, unwinnable cyberwar is now
Normally the U.S. government is quiet about it's offensive cyberwar strikes, but that changed in the past few weeks.
First there was the alarming NY Times article.
Over the past weekend, The New York Times reported that US Cyber Command has penetrated more deeply than ever before into Russian electric utilities, planting malware potentially capable of disrupting the grid, perhaps as a retaliatory measure meant to deter further cyberattacks by the country's hackers. But judging by Russia's response, news of the grid-hacking campaign may have already had the immediate opposite effect: The Kremlin warned that the intrusions could escalate into a cyberwar between the two countries, even as it claimed that Russia's grid was immune from such threats.
... since 2017, Trump has been elevating Cyber Command's authority and reversing Obama administration rules that required other agencies' sign-off before it launched an offensive hacking operation.
Then just a couple days ago there was an equally alarming WashPost article.
With an OK from the US president, the Pentagon this week launched cyberstrikes that took down Iranian computer networks used to control missile launches, says a report in The Washington Post, which cites unnamed people familiar with the matter.
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Last Saturday, The New York Times reported that US Cyber Command had moved from a defensive to offensive posture, apparently under a military authorization bill Congress passed in 2018 that gives the go-ahead for "clandestine military activity" in cyberspace to "deter, safeguard or defend against attacks or malicious cyberactivities against the United States."
Not only did the operation jeopardise future use of the capability, it achieved nothing of tactical, operational, strategic, or diplomatic value.
Congratulations to CYBERCOM for a great op demonstrating capability to augment military effectiveness.
Sorry your bosses are
— thaddeus e. grugq (@thegrugq) June 23, 2019
At the moment it's easy to say "So what. Why should I care?"
But that false sense of impunity won't last very long.
Iran is already searching for a way to strike back.
Iran’s #cyber capabilities are real. As a result, US civilians at home could feel the destructive effects of conflict abroad for the first time in a long while. US civilian infrastructure is networked and vulnerable. https://t.co/o6OZVs1Ror
— Thomas P. Bossert (@TomBossert) June 23, 2019
There are several ways that cyberwars are different from regular wars.
1) No reason to limit the arms race; No reason not to put your weapons on their border
One thing is clear: Cyberspace is now seen by officers and officials as just another “domain” of warfare—along with air, land, sea, and space. But there’s something different and more dangerous about this domain: It takes place out of sight, its operations are so highly classified that only a few people know what’s going on there, and it creates an inherently hair-trigger situation, which could unleash war in lightning speed with no warning.
...It’s this instantaneity that creates a danger. If a lot of countries are inside one another’s networks, if they’re all able to shift from just-looking-around to unleashing-an-attack in no time, and if these countries are capable of launching an attack and are susceptible to receiving an attack, then this creates a hair trigger. In a crisis, one or more of these countries might launch a cyberattack, if just to preempt one of the other countries from doing it first. The very existence of the implants makes a preemptive attack more likely.
2) Cyberweapons can be easily used against you
Recent disclosures by Symantec and the New York Times suggest a recent Chinese cybersecurity hack against U.S. interests involved re-purposing and then attacking us with a cyberweapon using previously deployed, NSA-manufactured hacking code. They had intercepted after it was used against them.The age of unwinnable cyberwar is upon us.
Think of this situation as analogous to neighbors throwing rocks at each other. Obviously, the first thrown rock is easily retrieved and re-launched at the opposing side. And subsequently so. This can go on forever until one side either gains strength in additional attackers, or escalates by deploying a new weapon.
3) The U.S. has a lot more to lose
"The idea that we can use cyber offense capabilities to impose sabotage-like effects, and to do so in increasingly large scale and costly ways until they get it through their head that they can’t win, I don’t think that's going to work," says Tom Bossert, who served as White House homeland security advisor and the president's most senior cybersecurity-focused official until April of last year. "I want to make sure we don’t end up in an escalatory cyber exchange where we lose more than they do."
Bossert points out that in many respects the US economy and infrastructure is far more reliant on digitization and automation than Russia's, giving the Kremlin an inherent advantage in any future no-holds-barred cyberwar. He paraphrases former secretary of defense Ash Carter: "If you're doused in gasoline, don't start a match-throwing contest."
We have so much more to lose from a cyberwar than literally any other nation.
If the internet gets disrupted what do you think will happen to our enormous tech companies and financial institutions?
It's like playing chicken when you are driving a Bentley and the other guy is driving a Ford. Even winning is losing in this case.

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It's amazing and amusing...
that some of the same people that claim Russia gave the 2016 election to Trump can say with a straight face that we can win a cyberwar. If we can't even protect our national elections against $100K in Facebook ads, how in the heck can we win a war?
When your only tool is a hammer
then everything looks like a nail.
That's my take.
Personally I'm looking forward to the day someone unleashes a virus that completely takes down the internet for several days.
North Korea would be unaffected by this. While the California economy and NASDAQ would implode.
So why would we want to start this war?
As am I.
Not so much as to see institutions suffer, as to see how the ordinary citizen loses their fucking mind.
Take the internet...... chaos.
Take the cellular network....... pandemonium.
Fire up the ham radio.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Reading the new Neil Stephenson
In which part of the plot involves a rather clever - and non-technical way to make the net useless for social information transfer.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
if you take out the internet completely
would that mean that all electrical grids would not function anymore? If that should be the case and the consequence, which I donÄt know, then I wouldn't wish on anyone the consequences of such a xomplete internet shutdown.
https://www.euronews.com/live
If our electrical grids can not function without internet
we deserve to be in the dark.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
No
what it would mean is no credit transactions.
Watch the Duel Between Wesley and Vizzini...
"They're trying to steal what we've already rightfully stolen...
Plato, Aristotle, Socrates? Morons."
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
But, but, but
We are the mighty USA, certainly we're the only ones who know how to do anything and we always win, right? S/
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
One other factor...
...is the low barrier to entry.
Making nukes takes a supply of ores, centrifuges to concentrate fissile material, tests to assure your warheads actually work. It's expensive and damned hard to hide.
Missiles that can reach across thousands of miles to deliver a warhead are similarly hard to develop and probably impossible to test secretly.
Bioweapons are much easier to develop, but hard to deliver effectively.
Cyber attacks take nothing more than basic equipment. Any government, probably any non-state organization, can develop weaponized code. How long until they are available on the black market for a few bitcoins? Are they already?
Will the big, bad, Russians cyber us? How about those scary Iranians? That's one thing. What about Madagascar or Ecuador attacking us? How about the terrorist organization of the month? How about black ops from big corporations (just how good would computer forensics be against this sort of thing?). How about a dozen goofballs with an axe to grind?
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
A half dozen guys with laptops
When it comes to cyberwar, the real weapons are the skills of the hacker.
On the flip side, it's real hard to play defense.
If JP Morgan Chase can get hacked then anyone can get hacked.
I remember an interview in "Computer Language" magazine
It was with the phone phreaker called "Captain Crunch". He claimed that with six Apple II's he could bring down the entire phone network of California.
Note:
His nickname because one day he bought a box of Captain Crunch cereal. It contained a toy whistle as a prize. He blew the whistle into a phone and found that it opened an unregistered long distance trunk line. Now who in the world would think of doing that!
Note2:
AT&T spent millions buying up and boxes of cereal and destroying them. They also paid the cereal company (General Mills?) more millions to change the pitch on the whistle so it no longer did that.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
That destruction was pointless
Because of course he measured the pitch. When I was in college , MIT students were already using this information to route calls from the hall pay phone around the world and then down the hall.
Reportedly ATT was so pissed they threatened to remove the phone unless the resultant bill was paid. The story goes that when they came to empty the phone a week later, it was full of pennies and a wooden nickel - neither of which would fit through the coin slots. In other words they had responded to the threat by picking the lock on the coin box. The moral being: don’t get pissy with smart nerds ...
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Great anecdote!
Never mess with an engineer over a tech item.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
The CIA's cyber tools are already online
Assange released vault 7 last year or so ago.... gee maybe Comey should have kept that deal huh?
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
I'm not sure I buy it...
After stuxnet, which supposedly was loaded with a USB device, wouldn't the Iranians at least harden their systems, including taking the most important offline? Did they learn nothing from that intrusion?
If malware was placed on their system can it not be isolated and reverse engineered? It would take some time but the intrusion entry point could be detected, in theory anyway, and then hardened to thwart any future attacks in the same manner.
Why would we tell them that the US penetrated their network? Why tip our hand?
It doesn't make sense except as a cover your ass for Trump.
The cyber attack on Russia
...that the NYTimes "reported" on is already being designated as "fake news."
maybe the details are fak4
But I have zero doubt that the cyberwar is real
Real and ongoing.
No question there. And that's one way to bring death and destruction right into the people's homes.
When the US decided to forego diplomacy for US terrorism and war crimes, like sanctions, instead — they put every American into harm's way. The American People have refused to control their government. Unless they stand up and declare to the world that they do not have a democracy, it looks like they are the ones behind these actions. They are paying the entire bill, after all.
When this Empire madness turns to shit, who do you think will pay the price?
In the Sword of Truth books
the old world came up into the new world to destroy magic. People in the old one happily lived in poverty because they had been told their whole lives that magic was bad. This is exactly what people here have been doing for far too long. Lots of people are saying that Trump should go to war with Iran because they are the biggest sponsors of terrorism in the world and that people in Iran say "death to America." Do they care that many of us are living in poverty because the military sucks up all the money? Not at all because they also think that our military is spreading freedoms and democracy in those backward countries. No wonder we can't get an anti war movement going. Wish I knew how to change this.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
No system is unhackable
There are always new vulnerabilities.
All anyone can do is unplug it from the internet. (See Battlestar Gallactica episode 1)
Ha!
Even as I was clicking on the Subject line link to your comment, I was thinking of BG Episode 1.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
That is correct...
but why help them by by exposing vulnerabilities?
Stuxnet proved that being offline isn't foolproof.
This stinks of FUD and CYA.
The NYT tipped off Russia too
Why did they say that we were cyber attacking Russia and in the same breath say that Trump wasn't told because he might have said something to Russia about it. Doh! Then everyone focused on how Trump isn't to be trusted instead of asking why the Times spilt the beans. More mind games.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
nice catch.
'They tried hard, but failed’: Iran foiled all US attempts to carry out cyber-attacks', june 24, 2019, RT.com
slightly OT
Good clip...
thanks. Bernie gets it right, IMHO.