Trump Derangement Syndrome

They can't let it go. The zombie Russiagate will not die...even though it is dead. Listen to or read this David Cay Johnston and Glenn Greenwald discussion this morning...
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/19/the_mueller_report_glenn_greenwal...
They can't let go of their own conspiracy theory.

Yet Amy just heard how russiagate helped Trump from Noam last week? (video or text)
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/18/chomsky_by_focusing_on_russia_dem...

But the best yet is Aaron Mate' and Jimmy's conversation...it is an hour with no transcript.


Excuse the drive by essay, but I enjoyed these pieces and wanted to place them where they might be noticed. I think Russiagate is the gift that keeps on giving. Notice the media hasn't mentioned XR's London shut down (nor other actions around the world)?
https://rebellion.earth/2019/04/19/international-rebellion-update-4-busi...

Nor the on-going yellow vest movement in it's 22nd week...6 min

nor the accelerating aggression against Cuba, Iran, Venezuela, Somalia....

Like the power of the magician, misdirection is a powerful tool.

I appreciate the C99 honesty and excellent reporting. Awake refreshed and keep your vision clear, friends. Remember, it isn't just your vision but also where you focus.

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k9disc's picture

To quote my favorite Space Weather reporter:
"Eyes open, no fear."

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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@k9disc

We sure can't see.
Speaking of blindness, I just heard this XR interview on Sky TV (7 min)

What a dick.

They are shutting down Heathrow today. (3 min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvFW6UWKNPM

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@Lookout derogatory that doesn't involve genitalia or natural functions (which are useful and necessary). Any ideas? Does anyone know this interviewer's name. Maybe that could become the derogatory term of choice.

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Lookout's picture

@Roy Blakeley

Moron, metal cretin, corporate puppet, but that guy was more than those term describe.

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@Lookout

Everybody has one, male, female, or whatever. Biggrin And way too many people ARE one.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@Lookout
there is a difference between governments all over the world talking about and debating this issue, versus governments all over the world announcing to their citizens that the situation is frightening, and then passing legislation to do something about it.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Azazello's picture

nor will they apologize for practically handing Donald Trump the 2020 election with this bullshit. There are two reasons, I think. By starting a New Cold War they can 1) provide a "threat" to justify insane military spending and 2) smear progressives as being pawns of Evil Russia.

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@Azazello

That's why I titled this as a derangement. Perhaps Bernie can still defeat him. The question is can he defeat the corpordims.

Interesting how T-rump is declaring war on socialism. With bolton as head cheerleader. I think they see Bernie as the nominee (or perhaps the dim wits have assured him otherwise?)

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@Lookout
The worst part for me, and Aaron and Jimmy talked about this, was being told by half-wit Dems that, if you don't believe in our childish, bullshit, James Bond conspiracy theory, then you must be a Trump supporter.

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@Lookout I think you saying this? And it would be right. Even if Bernie gets the nomination, he will then have to face Trump + Clinton/Obama/corporates coalition to beat him. Many Hillary supporters as have been noted in 2008 did not vote for Obama. It is not ahistorical for centrist democrats to undermine Leftist candidates in the general election.

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@MrWebster

think Henry Wallace.

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k9disc's picture

the corruption.

Good luck making that stick with your sullied reputation, eh?
@Azazello

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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@k9disc

which could be made. However with a rethuglican congress it still wouldn't have mattered. Even now with just the senate there's no impeachment. The dims don't want to move on, they are happy with more war, tax cuts, more drilling, and just hollering TRUMP!!!

A losing strategy again and again, IMO.

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Wink's picture

lose to Repubs than, gawd
forbid, have progressives win!

@Lookout

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Müller report? Who is allowed to make the redactions?

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TTTT (too tired to talk)

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@mimi

some of which is grand jury testimony which can't be released. I'm sure there will be claims that the real evidence is in the redactions...cause they really can't let it go. A derangement, indeed.

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@mimi

who made the redactions in his press conference just before the release of the report:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/18/transcript-barr-press-conferen...

Transcript: Attorney General William Barr's press conference remarks ahead of Mueller report release
By POLITICO STAFF 04/18/2019 10:30 AM EDT

… As I said several times, the report contains limited redactions relating to four categories of information. To ensure as much transparency as possible, these redactions have been clearly labelled and color-coded so that readers can tell which redactions correspond to which categories.

As you will see, most of the redactions were compelled by the need to prevent harm to ongoing matters and to comply with court orders prohibiting the public disclosure of information bearing upon ongoing investigations and criminal cases, such as the IRA case and the Roger Stone case.

These redactions were applied by Department of Justice attorneys working closely together with attorneys from the Special Counsel’s Office, as well as with the intelligence community, and prosecutors who are handling ongoing cases. The redactions are their work product.

… In addition, earlier this week, the President’s personal counsel requested and were given the opportunity to read a final version of the redacted report before it was publicly released. That request was consistent with the practice followed under the Ethics in Government Act, which permitted individuals named in a report prepared by an Independent Counsel the opportunity to read the report before publication. The President’s personal lawyers were not permitted to make, and did not request, any redactions.

… Given the limited nature of the redactions, I believe that the publicly released report will allow every American to understand the results of the Special Counsel’s investigation. Nevertheless, in an effort to accommodate congressional requests, we will make available to a bipartisan group of leaders from several Congressional committees a version of the report with all redactions removed except those relating to grand-jury information. Thus, these members of Congress will be able to see all of the redacted material for themselves – with the limited exception of that which, by law, cannot be shared.

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@Linda Wood @Linda Wood

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TTTT (too tired to talk)

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You are 100% correct - they cannot let it go, they have to keep the narrative going lest Bernie Sanders win the Presidential nomination and beat Herr Drumpf. He is the only real threat they fear and by keeping this alive, Herr Drumpf will get reelected, obstruction can continue, perpetual wars will be waged, and Americans will become the homeless citizens they are hoping for. Destroying American lives is their mission - I'm convinced of it. We are in the way of them having more money that they will soon have nothing to spend it on.

I'm on a rant! YIKES! I need to stop!
Dash 1

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“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.”

-- Voltaire

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@Raggedy Ann

perhaps as Chris Hedges says- The system isn't broken, everything is going as planned.

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@Lookout
is correct. It is all going according to their plan. We need a stick in that flywheel! Help

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“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.”

-- Voltaire

@Raggedy Ann Actually, Trump was a stick in their flywheel, which is why they've been trying so hard to get rid of him. Not that he even approaches the pro-democratic anti-oligarchic leadership we need, but as a complete outsider he hadn't forged alliances with the deep state factions. However, they seem to have him where they want him now.

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@Raggedy Ann
his full-throated, stupid endorsement of Russia-gate. We'll see how he tries to finesse that bone-headed move.

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chuck utzman

TULSI 2020

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@chuckutzman
T-rump and russiagate. It is a disappointment.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) called on Thursday for Congress to continue an investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 presidential election and whether President Trump sought to obstruct a law enforcement probe into the matter.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/439592-sanders-calls-on-congress-t...

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@Lookout
As he probably figured it could benefit him bashing Trump.
unlike needing to take his time to reflect on giving an Assange statement.

Still waiting, Bernie.

Oh but that then would shoot down the whole Russia, Russia, Russians did it cockamamie premise, which he supported.

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@Sirena

I had hoped Bernie would focus on his platform not russiagate...it will damage him in the long run. Might help him with the nomination in the short term?

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@chuckutzman
Why would he go that route? Of course, he surprised me last time when he endorsed her heinous. This is why I'm for nobody. Not sure I'll even vote!

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“It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.”

-- Voltaire

@chuckutzman Sounded so neocon-ish when he did it, making all wonder about his true colors.

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@davidgmillsatty Contrast that with what he said on the Fox News program. Day and night. Afaic, Bernie is one of the walking wounded. I hope someday he'll be able to tell us his story. And if it comes down to Bernie vs. Trump, let's hope he can break free of the DNC/deep state bullshit and be the person he always wanted to be.

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@Sirena

This sounds about right....

Zombies are notoriously hard to kill, mostly because they’re already dead. The only thing that drives them is that spark of undead life in what’s left of their brains.
https://www.superpages.com/em/how-to-kill-a-zombie/

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

...Say what you will, but behind closed doors there's a very simple/practical reason why this is all a waste of time: Trump will never be impeached by a Senate that's controlled by the Rethuglicans.

Even folks like Nancy Pelosi understand this basic reality. IT. IS. ALL. THEATER! ("Kabuki.")

There's one longshot (actually, multiple "longshot" opportunities), and it's the follow-up being done by three or four federal district prosecutors/courts. But, most of those investigations--while potentially politically damaging to Trump--will, more likely than not, never see any follow-through/completion until Trump's out of office (due to basic realities such as the fact that the U.S. presidency brings with it, nowadays, tremendous totalitarian authority). Once the guy's out of office, it's a different story, of course.

From a basic, political p.r. standpoint, the longer this is dragged-out (without any conclusive/final results), the more tiresome propaganda there will be flung at the unwashed masses; and, the long-term effect of same--already months past its sell-by date--will maintain the divisive, mass cognitive dissonance that's already overwhelmed any concept of the delivery of "real news" in this country, for far too long. This single-issue, Democratic Party propaganda will continue to suck all the air out of the proverbial "issues room" throughout the balance of Trump's first term (i.e.: undermining substantive issues discussions--read: Sanders, Gabbard, etc.--and enabling the Dems to continue their focus on ID politics, further dumbing down any chance of serious political debate in the 18 months left in this sh*t show).

How low can we (as a nation) go?

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"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used." --Hunter S. Thompson

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@bobswern
to find out.

How low can we (as a nation) go?

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-- Voltaire

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@bobswern

...against the other major nuclear world power. Beyond just the domestic scene.

Add in the loss of the INF treaty, amassing troops and weapons on Russia's border, and the movement of Russian advisors and weapon systems in Venezuela. (Which is good for Venezuela since we're gunning for them in a big way).

This is a CIA induced scam (IMO) that is developing into another disaster well beyond US politics.

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I've lost the ability to give a shit. Oh look, Bernie went on Fox News and people cheered his policies. Oh look, now he's going along with the New Cold War schtick.

Makes one wonder, how long will it be before we have our Praxis moment?

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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@The Aspie Corner

has been my question lately. All the focus on this scam instead. Plan on the water rising in your state...head to high ground.

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Russiagate cannot be reversed at this point. It has become self propelled and the results cannot be reversed.

1. It has succeeded as being the Patient Zero, the Adam and Eve of a new age of mass government and private censorship. Before the election, social media was chaotic method of communication. When Zuckerberg first heard about Russian "interference" he a laughed at the idea. He was talked to, and changed his mind. The censorship has gone beyond just Russia-stuff, and into marginalizing BLM, shutting down anti-police violence sites, and supporting right wing reactionary policies by blaming the Russians (resistance to TPP was secretly a Russian psy-op).

2. Primed the American people to accept and fear and consequences around Russiagate. This fear has also extended to Europe. (The Swedes are so afraid of the Russians they re-started conscription.) The consequences are massive. Total defense budgets have increase by my counting to easily $200+ billion dollars counting both NATO and US. This is just the material consequence and does not include entire cottage industries of authors and academics, and Russia hate pimps. The psychological is the mass acceptance of potential war with Russia and now China. It is not that masses of people want war with Russia, but they will accept and support it when a leader pushes them into it. Two days into the invasion of Iraq, Gallop recorded a 72% approval of the invasion. The propaganda around Russiagate has exceeding that of the Iraq invasion.

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@MrWebster

The psychological is the mass acceptance of potential war with Russia and now China. It is not that masses of people want war with Russia, but they will accept and support it when a leader pushes them into it.

And now a quote by Hermann Goring:

“Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

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@MrWebster

Weapons of mass destruction vs Weapons of mass distraction. Seems to me destruction is worse than distraction...unless it leads to war.

Apples and oranges maybe?

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@Lookout very often leads to destruction. In this case, by design.

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

If I needed a lawyer for Court I'd pick Glenn Greenwald in a heartbeat over David Cay Johnston because Glenn stays 'on point' with the topic being discussed while David wanders all over the place with statements totally unrelated to the subject at hand and consistently ignores what Glenn said debunking his claims.

GG "...But let me just say one thing about this idea that he’s a Kremlin asset or that we need to find out what his relationship is with the Russians. We just had a 22-month investigation where the media and Bob Mueller did nothing but look into that exact question. He’s saying it like nobody’s ever asked this before or nobody’s ever—we have the answer. And as for him being a Russian asset, it’s so irresponsible to say that, because the reality is that the conflict between the U.S. and the Russians are at a worse and higher level than they’ve been in many years, probably decades.

How can you say Donald Trump is a stooge of the Kremlin when he’s right now trying to remove one of Vladimir Putin’s client regime states in Venezuela? Or when he’s trying to bully Angela Merkel out of buying Russian natural gas, probably the thing that’s most important to the Russian economy? Or when he sold lethal arms to the Ukrainians, something Obama refused to do on the grounds that it would be provocative to Russia? Or when he bombed Putin’s client state in Syria? Over and over, the Trump administration has taken actions far more adverse and aggressive and belligerent to the Russians than the Obama administration did. That’s why this whole narrative that Trump all along was being blackmailed by Putin, that he’s an asset of Russian intelligence, this is idiocy. It is completely irrational. It is contrary to all facts.

And Bob Mueller’s investigation, who spent 22 months examining that core question—what is the relationship between Trump and the Russians?—concluded that there is no relationship. It’s time to stop these dangerous conspiracy theories that are ratcheting up tensions between the two most dangerous countries on the planet. The reality is, the Trump administration has been constantly belligerent to Putin, has constantly acted adverse to the Kremlin’s interests, and there’s zero basis for thinking or believing or finding evidence to assert that Trump in any way is beholden to Vladimir Putin and to Russia. The whole thing has been a joke and a fairy tale from the start...."

Then Glenn asks David a question about something missing in all the media reports, social media and most 'progressive' sites, and it's a damn good question for all media...

GG "...But I am interested, David, in hearing your answer directly to the question of whether you are also angry, as angry as you are about Trump Jr. taking that meeting with the Russians, about the efforts to work with the Ukrainian government to dig up dirt about Paul Manafort and Donald Trump, as well as the use of Christopher Steele to dig up dirt by using his sources within the Russian government, the same Russian government with whom you say Trump worked, to dig up dirt about Donald Trump."

DAVID CAY JOHNSTON: Well, one of the differences between us, Glenn, is I’m not driven here at all by emotion. I don’t hate anybody. I’m not angry about anything. I deal in facts that I can prove and verify. And when the facts change, my view of events change. And, of course, we never have a perfect set of facts...."

You can read the rest on DN! but to make a long story short, David shows no similar outrage for that foreign involvement, then mentions "...we need better laws and rules about this. I don’t think the Foreign Agent Registration Act is sufficient..."
Then a few sentences later goes back to square one "... And so, in all of this, let’s be very clear that Donald Trump was—"

I've had a lot of disappointment with DN! the last few years, but I keep it bookmarked to at least see what's playing each day just in case something like this pops up, just like I did with their earlier debate but with the report out this is hands down many times better.

But as a last note, if were to find myself represented in Court by David (it would have to be a pro bono situation) and couldn't choose Glenn I'd ask the prosecutor for a plea bargain asap.

(hypothetical of course as Glenn has let his license lapse and I can't see David even being a capable paralegal,that is if he could pass the exam which I doubt he could)

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@aliasalias

And couldn't help but drop it here for your disbelief... at least I find it bizarre they refuse to let go.

I'm afraid Amy drank the koolaid and has a case of TDS herself. The interview they had with Noam last week was good.

Here's the 1st of 6 parts with links to the others
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/12/noam_chomsky_we_must_confront_the

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@aliasalias So Greenwald thinks Trump can't be a Russian asset because of Trump's anti-Maduro stance ? Well that's not thought out very well is it ?

And why do we need to be equally outraged by Russian involvement in our elections and Israel's ? The alt-left media is making excuses like "yeah but - what about Obama ?" "What about Clinton ?" etc.

While it's convenient, and maybe even accurate, to claim Russia had no impact on our election does that mean they didn't try? I don't know. What I do know is we now have a President that obstructed justice and the Democrats are too chicken shit to do anything about it. As we lurch ever closer to a unitary executive (aka fascist dictator) everyone seems to be worried about their political future and selling ratings and books.

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@Blueslide  
Could it be defined by, say, being on that PropOrNot hit list Jeff Bezos’s Washington Post was promoting?

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@Blueslide @Blueslide

So Greenwald thinks Trump can't be a Russian asset because of Trump's anti-Maduro stance ? Well that's not thought out very well is it ?

And why do we need to be equally outraged by Russian involvement in our elections and Israel's ? The alt-left media is making excuses like "yeah but - what about Obama ?" "What about Clinton ?" etc.

Trump being a Russian asset is an entire fabrication that Democrats bought simply because they refuse to believe Clinton lost all on her fucking own. That's it. They will defend their queen till the day they die; in fact, they would rather the entire world be destroyed in a nuclear war than just admit they were wrong.

Democrats, you were wrong. We never wanted Clinton and instead of just looking into the mirror and admitting you were wrong, you would rather kill every single one of us in a nuclear war.

But I'll play ball here:

Trump being a Russian asset is completely at odds with what he is doing.
1) His stance on Venezuela
2) His attack on Syria
3) Arming Ukraine
4) Trying to stop Russia's natural gas exports.

How are any of these things beneficial to Russia? They aren't; in fact, they are completely against the interests of Russia.

You shouldn't be equally outraged about Russia and Israel's interference. Israel did interfere whereas Russia didn't. There is no evidence they did whereas Israel dominates the American political landscape. It is completely absurd to even compare the influence and reach of the two, but America stays blind to powerful while fearing the inactive.

Edit: grammar

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@Strife Delivery

Thanks!

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@lotlizard @Strife Delivery I don't think Trump is a Russian asset. I think he is their customer/vendor that wants to continue to make money from them.

All I was saying is, Trump's actions in Venezuela is the perfect way to continue making Venezuela, central and South America hate us. Were he to be a Russian asset, Trump is doing an excellent job there in harming and alienating Venezuelans.

His attacks on Syria have been futile. Trump couldn't care less about Syria and should have, and would have pulled out, but the MIC would have none of that. Trump's support for Ukraine is the same thing. He doesn't have the spine to tell the MIC to piss off, so he sold some missiles on the down low.

I actually think the Russia collusion is a big nothing burger. The real problem here is the continuation of the unitary executive drive.

If you think Mueller was actually trying to prove Presidential wrong doing you're wrong. He never subpoena'd Trump or lean on his family members. He didn't even answer the obstruction question. Why ? Because the President is above the law..."When the President does it, that means it's not illegal"

So now I have to depend on Democrats to impeach and try Donald Trump. Well, we already know that won't happen because it is politically inconvenient. Meanwhile, the concept of unitary executive has even more precedent. It's a shame but that's what happens when people ignore corruption.

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Hope you will carry on yourselves. See you tomorrow.

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Only part of the far right and to a lesser extent, part of the far left are willing to stick their necks out for peace (détente, rapprochement, partnership with Russia and China) and freedom of speech.

Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the most Kissinger-cynical, millions-of-deaths-are-worth-it faction of U.S. Atlanticists practically dictate German foreign policy.

We are right back to the East German setup where if you take a position in public counter to the narrative and ideology of those in power, you face ostracism, a foreclosing of career prospects with negative consequences for your entire future, and even overt violence against your person and property.

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but have not read all the comments. Just wanted to say that I love Aaron Mate' even more because of his daddy, Gabor. His YouTube videos on trauma did a transformational thing for me. It is not surprising that his kid is a fabulous journalist.

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

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@mhagle

They spelled Aaron's name incorrectly on his Izzy Award.
On another note, hope your garden is doing well.

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