Chelsea Clinton takes heat for New Zealand Massacre
NYU Muslim students are not happy with Bill and Hill's daughter for her comments regarding Rep. Ilhan Omar, whose tweets she criticized as antisemitic when Rep. Omar criticized Israel. Last night they let Clinton know they blame her rhetoric for the Mosque massacre in New Zealand.
Muslim students have berated Chelsea Clinton at a vigil for the victims of the New Zealand mosques massacre, saying she is to blame for the attack.
Clinton, who is pregnant with her third child, was attending the vigil at New York University on Friday when senior Leen Dweik began castigating her in an astonishing moment caught on video.
'This right here is the result of a massacre stoked by people like you and the words that you put out into the world,' says Dweik, gesturing to the vigil for the 49 who were killed in Christchurch when a white nationalist shooter stormed two mosques.
'And I want you to know that and I want you to feel that deeply - 49 people died because of the rhetoric you put out there,' Dweik continues, jabbing her index finger toward Clinton as other students snap their fingers in apparent approval of her words. [...]
'I'm so sorry you feel that way,' Clinton responds, only to provoke more ire from the crowd.
'What does "I'm sorry you feel that way" mean? What does that mean?' an unseen male is heard shouting from the crowd.
According to NYU student Rose Asaf, who posted the video on Twitter, students at the vigil were angry about Clinton's accusation last month that Rep Ilhan Omar, a Minnesota Democrat, used 'anti-Semitic language and tropes' while criticizing Israel.
Video of the confrontation:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Cebn_3aKQ]
First, what a terrible nopology by Clinton. "I'm sorry you feel that way" is meaningless and condescending. But, more significantly it's interesting that someone other than Trump is getting blamed for attacks on Muslims, and a Democratic (cough) icon, at that. I don't believe Clinton or Trump had much to do with inciting the individual who murdered people attending mosques in New Zealand. The groundwork for these murderous attacks has been laid down for decades by western politicians and the news media. However, it is good to see that a member of the Dem aristocracy is taking heat for conflating criticism of Israel with anti-semitism. Our lords and masters all too often skate if they are Dems for the hateful and slanderous rhetoric they promote whenever Israel is mentioned in an unfavorable manner. The Dems claim to care about human rights, but that's all it is, a mere statement of concern, since their support of Israel's genocidal policies is as strong as the Republicans.
Rep. Omar was right to call out Israel's influence on our politics, even though she was forced to apologize for her truthful remarks. Democratic politicians are in bed with AIPAC, and it's hardly dishonest to point out this fact, as Ms. Omar did on twitter.
The remarks in question came during a discussion at a Washington bookstore on Wednesday about how critics have repeatedly labeled Ms. Omar’s criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic. She argued that the label is being used in bad faith to shut down debate.
The sentence that garnered the most attention was, “I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is O.K. for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country.”
Remember this is coming from Democrats who support making it illegal to promote divestment in Israel in protest to their apartheid regime in Gaza and the West Bank. So, it's good to see any Democrat criticized for carrying Israel's water and inciting hatred of Muslims.
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The young woman is wearing a Bernie shirt
IS SHE A BERNIE BRO???!!!
Anyway, this exchange warmed my heart. I love when the untouchable elite get a verbal smackdown from a regular. Chelsea Clinton is a poster girl for nepotism and her pathetic response was beyond obnoxious.
It's a stretch
to accuse CC of anything to do with the NZ killer. Focus should be on DJT's racist rhetoric and the female RW media person (name??) who he mentions by name in his manifesto. Criticism of CC should be on the issue of prohibiting criticism of Israel and the power of AIPAC. I don't see why she needed to apologize for what happened down there. I ended up feeling sorry for her, and I'm not a big fan of the Clintons.
I said it was a stretch
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
It's Not Much of a Stretch. Clinton Support of Warmongering
in the ME is a large factor in why mosques are on the map.
Her families support, the bipartisanship, was key for making perpetual war in the ME a reality. Of course this is also part of "siding with Israel" or "being a friend of Israel" as well; you can't be a friend of Israel without killing and displacing muslims and normalizing the killing and displacement of muslims.
That's a pretty straight line, IMO.
And of course, it's a tangential issue - public immigration policy is the primary political apparatus - but it is the cause of refugees and the dehumanization emboldens the white supremacist.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
But to get there
She Speaks in Public as an Important Person and She's Said
nothing about stopping war. Her parents are war criminals that are adulated and nearly worshipped. She's floating around the NGO world and has been for a long time. Wields tremendous power via the Clinton Foundation...
I think she's fair game, personally. When it comes to the politics of perpetual warfare, don't hate the playa hate the game.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
I Mean, She Takes Money From a Bunch of Dictatorships.
All the sultans and ME "movers and shakers" (heh) give money to the Clinton Foundation.
She is neck deep in this shit.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Totally agree!
This is not a case of just the sins of the parents, but a case of Chelsea's own sense of entitlement and privilege. Chelsea's very words that she used at the beginning of her speech were intended to set her up as being privileged and absolve her of an wrong doing. "As an American..." These words were intended to intimate that Americans of the Muslim faith are not real Americans. Further when confronted, she shifted the blame back on the young Muslim woman who confronted her by saying, "I am sorry that you feel my comments were wrong." This is person of privilege speaking.
Chelsea Clinton spoke out against Rep. Ilhan Omar and accused her (Omar) of anti semitism. Taking such a public stance is enough alone to make Clinton open to criticim.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Clinton was channeling Sarah Palin with the American quip
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1106918851198009345
Does anyone but me
I think it's ridiculous to trace such an act to any 'hostile' comment by anyone. As far as I have heard, the manifesto doesn't mention CC at all, and expresses admiration for the Chinese type of government.
dfarrah
Also this
Not sure why the tweet isn't linking
Sorry, I'm on mobile and nothing is working for me. Link is: https://twitter.com/MedDhiaH/status/1106961828167536640?s=20
I can see your tweet
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Words have consequences
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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Good to "see" you, Stephen.
I understood that Omar had criticized a lobbyist, and not Israel directly. In any event, her wiki article cites ALL the instances in which Omar made an allegedly anti-Semitic remark, the last of these being the one that supposedly drove Democrats to pass an
anti-Omar billbill condemning anti-Semitism. Judge for yourselves if the target of the bill was anti-Semitism, or Omar or Omar's views, which are to the left of the views of most Democratic officeholders.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilhan_Omar#Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_con...
BTW, remember in 2006, when Nancy promised to "drain the swamp?" Aside from Rangel, who was allegedly under investigation for THREE Congressional elections and was shamed and invited to resign by then incumbent Obama, the Democrats targeted indeed seemed guilty of unsavory behavior. (I don't consider the "bread crumb sins" for which Rangel was finally censured "unsavory" in the same way that I consider Weiner's behavior or the behavior of Massa unsavory. She also took down Republican John Ensign. One Republican to three Democrats, with two of the three Democrats being succeeded in the House by Republicans.
Apparently, "the swamp" contained not a single Blue Dog. Raise your hand if you think only those Democratic members of Congress that Pelosi targeted were the only corrupt Democratic members of the House. Raise your hand if you think Ensign was the only corrupt Republican member of the House at that time.
Massa alleged his ouster actually came from Rahm Emanuel, then Obama's chief of staff; and Obama obviously agreed enough with targeting Rangel to put the power of the Presidency behind it publicly. So, Massa's claim is plausible, IMO.
And where was the awful policy of backing incumbents, no matter what, when Mike Capuano was primaried? (IMO, they tried, and failed, to get him out by re-districting, which was how they got rid of Kucinich.) If you want to read something truly lame, read the reason the Boston Globe gave for supporting Pressley over Capuano. Only a naïf would have missed that the Globe's endorsement was as cynical as it could be.
Anyway, it just strikes me odd that House Democrats seem to unify against only leftist Democrats, whether or not there is independent justification.
There is Some Stretching Going on There, For Sure.
Lots of wind as dog whistle, IMO. The hypnotized one is perhaps a bit resonant.
I hope neither of mine are antisemitic tropes...
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
You can't take a stance without pissing somebody off.
But if you want to piss off EVERYBODY, try to not pick a side.
You'd think the Democratic Party would learn that basic fucking principle. By trying to be coyly polite to everybody, they make nobody happy, and lose the trust of everyone.
Lobbyists have too much power. Some lobbyists are religious. Right now I see Two groups of them being fucking stupid and looking to start a war. Problem with organized religions these days is they keep getting their bullshit mixed up with my politics. Far as I'm concerned, you wanna play criticism, I get to criticize you right fucking back.
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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
if you don't stand for something.....
"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything!" Exhibit A: today's Democratic Party!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Amen
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
That's funny Snoopy
Yeah, the comments on that Buzzfeed article are pretty nauseating.
This shit is bananas.
Stretch, don't stretch
CC spent 2 years campaigning for mom, talking about all her stands and "accomplishments". Maybe she can write it off because...well it's MOM. In any case she hasn't disavowed any of her statements and if this pisses her off, I'm sorry she feels that way.
Lying for mom
In one of her early campaign appearances, Chelsea stated that Bernie was going to take away everyone's health insurance.
A while later, I was talking with a friend who said her mother was going to vote for Clinton because "Bernie's going to take away my Social Security!"
I pointed out that actually Bernie was the only candidate who would not destroy or degrade our social programs. But I know where my friend's mother got that idea. It was from Chelsea, lying her face off. In so doing, hurting other people, and not even having the basic sense of humanity to understand that she is hurting people. "I'm sorry that you feel that way".
The Clintons are trying to pave the way for Chelsea to follow in their footsteps. Keep the Clinton Foundation political dynasty con machine rolling.
She doesn't get a pass.
She doesn't get a pass because she's "pregnant with her third child", as that news report made sure to tell us right up front. "Oh, poor pregnant Chelsea, someone was not polite to her, oh nooooo."
She does not get a pass to behave like an insipid, narcissistic sociopath. Period.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
No, no pass
"I'm sorry you feel that way"
At least she doesn't "feel their pain." Has she mastered the concered lip bite yet? What was she doing there anyway? I think the tweet gulfgal quoted about "concern trolling brand" nails it.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Response from the activists is on Buzzfeed
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/leendweik/why-we-confronted-chelsea...
Correct to confront CC
Liked this:
Wow the comments on this ...
Most comments are against the woman who confronted Chelsea. Omar's comment was dangerous anti Semitic don't you know and the democrats should have kicked her out of congress. People strongly feel that Israel can not be criticized for any reason.
As stated here Chelsea protested against some anti war people when she was in the U.K. for schooling and as Mr. Webster states Chelsea parroted her mom's attack on Bernie's health care plan as well as some other things he ran on. The $600,000 for giving 9 (?) reports on some silly stuff would never have happened to someone who wasn't known or had parents like Chelsea does.
It sure doesn't seem that many people have a problem with AIPAC getting our government to censor us in regards to the BDS movement. That just proved Omar's point. We're giving Israel over $10,000 a day while we have starving children and thousands upon thousands of people who are homeless.
Oops..combined my Chelsea rant with my Israel one. Oh well.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Yeah, the comments...oof
My eyes rolled into Saskatchewan at the comments mentioning her pregnancy. Um, fuck off with that. How many pregnant women's lives did Chelsea's parents end or bomb out into ruin on their various paths to enrich themselves.
Hillary, Obama and Albright all tweeted their condolences
to NZ for the Muslim attacks and if that's not tone deaf hypocrisy I don't know what is. I didn't see one person connecting the attack to what their governments have been doing in the Middle East. Obama used his drones to kill thousands of innocent civilians. Hillary got us to invade and overthrow Gaddafi and then arm terrorists to kill Muslim civilians. Albright used sanctions to kill close to a million people in Iraq by starvation and lack of medicine and half of them were children.
And not one person connected the migration of Muslims all over Europe to their leaders who are responsible for it. Don't want refugees flooding into your country? Find a way to stop the senseless wars that is causing them to migrate. Especially here where so many people don't think our poop smells.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
Exactly
I'll add climate change too, something that maybe one of them can take up (LOL just kidding, as if they would!). If you support polluting industries, you're part of the problem.
If we can't kill them there
I have no idea where that thought came from.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
In a way I blame Mom and Dad
Now Chelsea went into the public square, and watch out, don't give out shit unless you can take it.
But in a way, I blame Bill and Hillary for pushing her into being a public persona. Chelsea has no business being out in the push and shove world of public poltics in general. Everytime she has tried to do it like attacking Sanders over health care during primaries; she got her proverbial butt handed to her. Unless it is about lolipops and rainbows, she has no business being some big voice in the public square. That is okay, join the rest of us.
Remember her cushy NBC correspondent gig
That job paid $600K annually. She had the presence of a dial tone.
Of course, she isn't the only politicians' kid to try to make a go of it in a media/entertainment career - Jenna Bush Hager, Meghan McCain, Abby Huntsman, and most of the Trumps. I suppose it occupies that sweet spot of being in the limelight without the pressure of politics.
Very true.
I believe it's from the Golden Girls
Dorothy describes someone as having the personality of a dial tone and this has been an effective diss in my repertoire ever since!
In a just world, CC would be irrelevant.
Wonder how much her parents paid to get her into just the right university?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
What is CC trying to have...a litter?
How many heirs does she need? She must not be aware of a "slight" problem: human over-population. Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.