The World Brought to You By The Baby Boomer Generation

Decimation of Trade Unions and Defined pensions.
Suppression of wages.
Excessive executive pay.
Banking deregulation that caused the collapse of the economy in 2007.
Lowering the standards of basic education.
Huge increase in college costs.
Massive sustained increase in defense spending and wars.
Increased use of all types of drugs.
Excuse of Bill Clinton's behavior towards women.
Positives: Personal Computer.
Please feel free to add to the list.

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Pricknick's picture

The majority of baby boomers are passing into an age of "Get off my lawn". Here's one boomer who isn't.
Hell, last week I was told that a small rock sticking out of Lake Heron was private property. When I asked how that could be, I was told that before the lake went up it was on their beach. As I had arrived to this small outcropping in a kayak and not on foot, I had to ask the supposed owners if they could walk on water. I was told it didn't matter because it belonged to them. I then informed them that I was not leaving on their accord unless they wanted to get wet.
I've lost faith in humanity and I'm getting down right tired in the lack of such.
Us damn dirty hippies were right so not all boomers are bad.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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Shouldn't you have titled it:

"Let's Sow Some Real Discord by Pitting One Generation Against Others"

WTF do you think you're going to accomplish with this spew you've posted? Something good? Something "progressive?" NOT.

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@travelerxxx @travelerxxx Focusing on that which can be used to divide us is of no value. It plays into the hands of those who seek to divide us for fun and profit. It also perpetuates the selfish thinking that got us from the most prosperous middle class in history to today. Essentially, I see chambord to be engaging in the same selfish crap that has defined the thinking that got us into this predicament on my generation's watch.

To chambord, please explain exactly how any one of these, much less all, can be laid at the feet of an an entire generation? Please show your work.

Now, maybe you want to have a conversation, instead of a drive by soliloquy, about the clearly obvious flaws in how my generation guarded the gift given us from the hard work of those who built a strong middle class. How has it come to pass that one helluva a great beginning to our lives is no longer available to those who follow us? Who did this to ...you?...me?...us? Just who are those scumbags? Are you even making the right accusation? I've got a lot to say on the topic from the perspective of having lived those years. I want to hear what insight you might have to offer. I'll gladly give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not just flinging poo and have something useful to offer.

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"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

@vtcc73 You and the poster before you sound like a Fox viewers or Clintonites, people who deny reality, you are both new here. I will not engage with you further.

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It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. Carl Sagan

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@chambord
Both have been here more than long enough to be called members.
And to call them hillbots or foxtrots is in very bad taste.
DBAD

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@chambord It's a legitimate question. You presented certain propositions; it's up to you to defend and substantiate them.

Ad hominems are not a valid response and get pretty close to DBAD territory.

By the way, vtcc73 is well known to many people here at c99. So is travelerxx.

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@chambord

I generally don’t respond to your kind of provocation, but your response to a very generous offer to validate your discontent and have a genuine conversation is unfairly dismissive and doubly offensive.

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@chambord

Drop a stink-bomb and then refuse to engage further - while dropping another? That's not how this place is supposed to operate.

The Corpocracy would just love to get us fighting each other - it gets us off their backs, divides our attention, and further weakens us.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@TheOtherMaven I did not consider this a stink bomb. I wrote what I think about the world as I see it, and these two people came with nasty remarks, even using foul language. I was not aware that there was a list of taboo subjects. I have been hanging out here for a very long time, coming from dailykos. Me promoting divide and conquer? I am a member of the so-called boomer generation.

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@chambord

there are bad approaches to subjects. You used one. You got pushback. Surprise, surprise.

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@chambord @chambord In my experience people generally tend to say things for one of two reasons. They only want to be heard or they have something to say that others find worth hearing. The former comes across as noise to be ignored at best. The latter offers a chance for being useful to some or all.

You will never know more than you knew when you compiled your list and hit Publish. I know absolutely nothing else about you but you have managed to soil your reputation with one list and a short paragraph.

That’s the long version of “It’s better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” Words I try to live by but fail on occasion.

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"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

@chambord hell hole you came from. Both of those posters are hardly new to this site. And you're the one who wrote this facile piece of shit stirring, not either one of them.

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what we're talking about are 4 generations.
The 4 generation theory, at least my interpretation of it, is based on 2 things: the young , who define the culture, fight the wars, buy the profitable stuff, and suffer the most when things go wrong, and the generation who run things.
The theory usually starts with the great depression and WW2. (though it has been traced back to the Magna Carta) Those people suffered a depression and fought a great war, taking a million casualties. They came back from that war and vowed that their children would not suffer like they did. Their children are usually called the baby boomers, I call them the spoiled brats. The next generation, coming in the late 60s and 70s, I call the lotus eaters. They reacted to the selfishness of the world that was defined by the spoiled brats (and now run by the war generation who did everything in their power to support and protect the brats) and take advantage of the protections offered by their elders to explore the real meaning of life - they are philosophers and mystics. (the founding fathers were lotus eaters) I don't have a clear definition of the next generation, but the ruling generation were spoiled brats (Reagan and Clinton, though Reagan was a geriatric anomaly) Filled with a sense of entitlement and selfishness, they stole everything that wasn't nailed down and ruined everything that wasn't by pulling it up. The next generation, the one we are in now, I call the depressed. The brats ate all the seed corn and now we are starving. ("we", I am a lotus eater) Society is starting to be run by lotus eaters as the brats retire, but we lotus eaters will not shine for a few years yet.(and that will not be happy times if history stays true to its pattern - english civil war, American revolution, American civil war, ww2 - as the lotus eaters will guide us through the next great war in about 3 or 4 years)
Referring to your terms, most of what you said actually is the fault of the boomers, but some is more complex. "Mother's little helper" was boomers looking for an easy way to cope, the "drug epidemic", (pot and acid and ecstasy) was lotus eaters experimenting, while the opioid epidemic is the depressed generation responding to the legacy of the boomers. 3 separate issues. The present sexual insanity (legitimate though most cases are) is a common reaction by a depressed generation lashing out in their pain. Misandrist feminists (and other SJWs) have legitimate points and legitimate reasons, and we just have to forgive their lashing out and do the right thing and it will all work out in a few years.

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@doh1304 Your analysis, and that of the OP, leaves out an entire generation: the Silents. These are people born during the late 1920s through the end of WWII, 1944 or thereabouts.

The Silent generation has very distinct characteristics, different from the preceding generation (the Greatests, who fought in WWII) and the subsequent (the Boomers, born 1945 to 1964). The Silents were born before or during the Great Depression, or during WWII, and many still have memories of those events. The experience of growing up during the Depression helped to form their childhood and their view of life. By no means can this generation as a whole be characterized as "spoiled brats".

Many of the things for which Boomers are credited -- good or bad -- were actually done by the Silents. Many of the politicians and pundits whom I suspect you think are Boomers are actually Silents: Dianne Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, the Koch brothers, George Soros, for starters.

Lewis Powell, who wrote the infamous Powell Memorandum, which initiated a lot of the neocon-neolib stuff we're dealing with today, was born in 1907. That makes him a Greatest.

Looking back, the 1970s were the beginning of the hand-off from the Greatests to the Silents, although the Greatests remained primary until around 1990. Those Greatests really hung on for a long time.

The early Boomers (those born in the 1940s) began to make their presence known politically during the 1980s, but in no sense can they be said as having run things during that decade. The youngest Boomers were still in high school when the '80s began.

The 1990s and the first two decades of the new millennium have been generally a joint effort of the Silents and Boomers, with the next generation (often called Gen X) coming into the picture. Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz, as examples: Gen X.

If all the OP or anyone else here wants to do is hold forth on "stupid old people", that's one thing. (Not sure I'd stick around for that, however, any more than I'd want to participate in a "stupid young people" discussion.)

But if we want to engage in an authentic, rational discussion of the impacts of the various generations, we've got to be clear and precise about who and what those generations are, within the appropriate historical and sociological contexts.

I've actually thought about writing an essay about the Boomers, since as a Boomer myself, I have some theories I'd like to explore. However, I've been hesitant to do so.

Any rational, productive discussion of this subject would have to be just that: rational, using self-control and self-awareness, without devolving into condescension, passive aggression, or comments meant to belittle, marginalize, and/or provoke various portions of the c99 readership.

Based on the essay title and some of the comments made here so far, as well as the various painful "discussions" (if you can call them that; a real discussion requires active listening and a letting down of intellectual and emotional defenses) we've had to endure over the past few days, I'm not sure that's doable.

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@Centaurea I would like to read that. I think post WW2 brought in a new era that can't follow any generational theory, except maybe the generation of the Industrial Revolution, but no theory seems to 100% fit.

The thing with Chambords list is that it implies the outcome was deliberate, either through inaction or design. Most of the list, even increased use of all types of drugs, came about through some change of legislation. Elections came and went, promises were made and rarely kept, at least on the left. Now we don't even think a democrat will do much to change anything, it's just "vote for me, the other guys worse".

Yes, everything on the list happened in a time frame and it's comforting to be able to lay blame somewhere, and maybe punishment. But why didn't the depression generation stop Hitler the second he invaded Poland..... by that didn't they in effect allow WW2 and the Holocaust to happen? The Greatest Generation! Not really, our leaders did. Just because you were alive at certain time it doesn't make every individual responsible for everything that happened. There are people who are responsible, though, and we are at fault for not holding our leaders accountable.

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@doh1304 @doh1304
becuz there was a TON of money flowing thru an Economy on speed. Well, that, and our parents working real hard to make sure their little darlings (Boomers) didn't experience what they went thru (Depression and WWII). Who can hate 'em for that? There was more money than God flowing thru an Economy producing more stuff in one generation than had been produced over the previous 10,000 years. We were served an 8 oz. carton of milk during our K-6 school days for christsakes. But, as 7 year olds we just thought everything was "normal." TV was brand new, but we just thought it had been around forever. Since the stone age. Roy Rogers, The Rifleman, Captain Kangaroo... been on tv forever, right? We got almost everything we asked Santa for, and Always got the "Big Toy." Sure, we were "spoiled," but it wouldn't have been possible without GM, Ford, IBM humming along, Big Bucks flowing thru the Economy -- and those companies Paying Taxes to state and local communities, their Executives paying over 70% of their salaries to the IRS -- so even those at the bottom of the pyramid didn't have to live on the street. And didn't. And even the working class could provide Christmas gifts for their kids without loading up on non-existing credit cards. We got a dollar weekly allowance when a coke cost a dime, comic books 12¢, candy bars a nickel. Movies? 50¢. Mom paid for the movie ticket, our allowance paid for the popcorn. We went to the movies - a "double feature" plus cartoons - almost ever Saturday afternoon. Three hours (or more) of entertainment for 40¢. We just thought it was "normal," what American kids did on Saturday. I saved up to buy my first bike. $5 bought me a beat up bike from the kid a couple blocks away. He got the better end of the deal, but I had something to ride to 3rd grade. Life was grand, we all thought it was "normal" - how America ran. No reason to think otherwise.
Depression? WWII? That was a million years ago. My uncles served, never talked about it, was like it never happened as far as we "spoiled brats" were concerned. Comic books, movies and rainbows for us - not a care in the world. But, as stated, the ONLY way that fantasy world happened was a high flying Economy, decently paid workers (in tune with productivity), and both Companies and their Executives paying a good chunk of their paychecks in taxes. I know! What a concept! CEOs back in those days made 30-40 times what the janitors of those companies made. Janitors made $9,000 a year, their CEOs made $300,000 a year. Today, CEOs make 50-60 times (and more) what the janitor makes, a cool $1.6 Million vs. $28,000 for the janitor - CEO pay up 5 times vs. 3 times for the janitor.
See, if you were born in the late '60s, thru the mid '70s you experienced what we Boomers experienced, K-12, for the most part. We Boomers might have had it a tad more cushier, but experiences were similar. Until you got out of college in the '90s and began to experience Reaganomics. And anyone born in the late '70s or later... fughetaboutit. They may have gotten a whiff of what post-war America was about, but just a whiff. Everyone born since has absolutely No Fucking Clue what America used to be like, circa '46 to '76, or so, becuz ALL they have experienced is the $h!t storm that is Reaganomics.
And, sorry, but when we voted for Bubba in '92 - after 12 fucking long years of Repub rule - we thought the Democrat - Bubba - would simply return us back to reality. So... there's that. Our bad.
Point being, if you were born in the late '70s or later you have little to zero knowledge of post-war America thru the '70s. It was a grand time to be alive!
And, the secret is, it still could be. Still could be. There's absolutely No reason why we still can't be living like it's 1959, on the verge of the space race. None. We just need to tax Companies and their Executives like it's 1959 again. Well, drop the rates down from 90% tax rate to say 45% - half - and tax the Execs maybe 50% instead of 70%... but that actual tax grab - no loopholes - would kickstart the Economy more than any tax cut would. duh. Then... then... then tax each stock trade transaction a whopping 25¢. I know! Treason! I can hear the billionaire crocodile tears already. 25¢! Outrageous! Next, Single Payer. Not a huge savings for the Treasury, but an Yuuuge savings for individuals and families across the fruited plain - and those savings go right back into the Economy. A few simple steps to take us back to 1959. So that the next generation can be spoiled. No reason why they can't be, a milk carton on every K-6 desk.

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@Wink I am lumped into that generation, but I don't really recall any of things you listed above other than cheap candy! What I do remember is a stay at home mother with the choice to work outside the home if she wanted. Being the mother of 6 kids she did choose to do that a few nights a week at a pizza place and let us with our father who let us have Coca Cola in baby bottles! Hmmm! And while to me based on memory we didn't have the newest or nicest things we had the basics but with our mother actually there to parent us in a house they built with a GI loan and my parents doing this with the ONE job my father had. Anyway 100% agree we could get back to those things with a taxation system as you described. The problem is of course a complicit Corportist MSM that will turn that message into handouts to those that don't deserve them.

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O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.

@Wink with a top marginal of 90% now, given that a CEO now makes 300 times average vs maybe 30% back in the day when that top rate was 91%. I get why we hedge that here as to really talk about 90% just scares the shit out of most people, but that's a MARGINAL rate, not a total rate. And they have ALL the money! They'll still be filthy rich even paying 90%.

As for getting back to 1959 though, that will never happen even if we did tax the rich to pay down our debt. Climate change makes that a non-starter. Now if we truly lived like people did in 1959, one car per family, not nearly as much "stuff" as we "need" now, along with a paradigm that rejects all the waste of all the latest and greatest baubles (which requires a completely different outlook than that of 1959 America), then yes, we could live in a much more equitable and productive way. But we aren't going back to 1959.

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@lizzyh7 , about the 93 percent top marginal tax rate. It absolutely has to be that high to rescue the economy from the money hoarders. The spend money has to pour into the economy from the bottom. That way, each dollar spent at the bottom will boost the economy by $6 on its way up. Money poured in at the top improves the economy far too little. Each dollar from the top boosts the economy only a measly $1.23. Not enough to build a 21st century infrastructure.

The greedy rich have got in their heads that they are being singled out for taxation. That's not what is going on. We don't tax people. We tax income. If you take home all the income, you pay all the taxes. Conversely, no one earning less than $30,000 should be paying taxes at all. Even the very wealthy should earn the first $30,000 tax free.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

Actually, you sound like Foxes next business model. The "old hippies stole your future and sit around collecting SS for nothing, your life sucks because of them" audience. Millennials have surpassed baby boomers as a voting block. Why didn't you stop Trump (insert some crap about selfies and self absorption to keep the argument on a insult for insult level basis, no, not really)? If you examine your list of grievances you do realize how few of that generation benefited from any of it, and were harmed by it just as you were.

Look, we're here because we did whatever we could to stop this mess in the political structure that existed, and it didn't work. Decades of backing some candidate that eventually betrayed you brings about the realization it's a feature, not a bug. If you want, I'm sure there is a place for you on the identity politics band wagon, but once you divide yourself, you're conquered.

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I was not joining in on a bitch fest, I was trying to find a psychological underpinning for social history. But By the way:
The 4 generations theory is not a 20th century phenomena, it is a cycle which has repeated time and again throughout history. What you call the silents are the previous cycle's depressed. They came of age during the great depression after spending their childhood in the false prosperity of the roaring twenties. (note: the twenties actually saw a reduction in the standard of living of the majority of Americans, sound familiar?) Perhaps that explains why people like Feinstein are obsessed with corruption.
And it's not when you were born, it's the generation you identify with. Saying that someone who was in high school/college in the 80s was the end of the boomers is absurd on it's face. Barack Obama was not a boomer, he wasn't even a lotus eater. (obviously) he came of age idolizing Ronald Reagan. I have trouble finding a label for that generation, (the inventors of the 4 generation theory call them for some reason I have been unable to fathom "the builders") but if I were judgmental I would call them the grifters. coming of age under the depressed and the boomers, who created a blatantly false prosperity (the roaring twenties and the Reagan 80s) they see survival in buying into the lie that the silents and boomers created. Obama is a perfect example - for all his talk of hope he really has none. This explains "generation me" - people without hope grabbing everything they can because they know that it will all be gone tomorrow, trickle down and tech bubbles.
In a sense, there are two cycles - depressed and brats mature to create grifters and the next generation of depressed, and greatest and lotus eaters mature to protect and support more lotus eaters and the next greatest. (Bernie Sanders, technically a boomer or a silent, is the quintessential lotus eater - his movement will create the generation that will be the next greatest, leading us out of the great recession and the next great cataclysm)

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Let's put the blame where it belongs, the worldwide aristocracy that spans all generations and exists for the sole purpose of ruling their realm.
Manipulation of human events is their trade.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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Born in '65 I think I'm whatever came right after boomers and yet I was blissfully ignorant of real politics until 2011. Sure, an awful lot of people were suckered in, myself included. So what?

I don't think you can place blame for this on any one segment of American society. We are ALL complicit. There's an awful lot of blood on my own hands and I'm acutely aware of that. So rather than "Who's to blame?" the much more important question in my mind is, "What are we going to do about this?"

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was wrong. Have you ever heard of Kent State? The ‘68 Chicago riots? The Civil Rights Act. End to the draft?

I sure haven’t seen much activism from those that came after us.

Except pink pussy hats.

See. It works both ways.

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@Amanda Matthews As someone who was an activist from 1984-2014, let me say that I'm not surprised you haven't seen much of my work (nor of the work of people who did much, much more than me). It's not in the interest of the establishment to show you our work. The last march I was in was estimated at 600,000 people. It was a march against climate change in NYC. It had several concurrent marches happening simultaneously in different places around the world.

It got one sentence on one Sunday-morning political show, courtesy of Katrina Vanden Heuvel, I think. 600,000 people.

The reason you saw the pink pussy hats is that they want you to see them.

It's rare that any actual activism gets coverage. Occupy and Standing Rock are the exceptions. I guess if you refuse to move for long enough, they can't black you out.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal @Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
I was at the demonstration against the NDAPL protest at the Army Corps of Engineers here in Lower Hooterville. i took my grandson with me. He was one of the FEW young people there. it was basically middle aged and older peiple like myself there. i guess the younger crowd had better things to do.

Last major demonstration in this country was to protest the war in Iraq. THEN the young turned out. And the middle aged. And even the elderly. And they were beaten, caged, and brutalized by the police. AND I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS THE PERSON WHO INVESTIGATED THE ‘RIOT’ AND THE CAUSE OF IT FOR THE REPORT SUBMITTED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COURT FOR THE NEBRASKA ACLU. The court accepted my findings, which took weeks of tracking down both the arrested and the organizers and recording everything that happened. In the end the police and the court accepted my finding that it was a FEMALE police sergeant on horseback who INTENTIONALLY caused the whole fiasco on Farnam Street and that the old bastid that had a kid arrested for punching the hood of his car in the Old Market was to blame because the SOB Intentionally hit a demonstrator with his car. After my report was submitted to the OPD, almost ALL prosecutions were dropped except for 3 who actually caused some property damage and resisted arrest. The court settled for a $1.00 fine, time served (overnight), and court costs $16.00. (Cops on horseback used billy clubs on those people. That’s just a taste of what the future holds for us, our kids, our grandkids.)

Other than the pink pussy hat parade there hasn’t been that kind of organizating and demonstrations since then. People are too afraid to committ themselves to actually STANDING UP AND SPEAKING OUT for our rights. All the freaking internet petitions haven’t stopped a damn thing. No one wants to put their ass on the line anymore. They just do the “write/call your rep” or “sign this petition” crap that is next to useless. Everyone is AFRAID to really committ to trying to change things because they’re AFRAID of the way TPTB have changed laws to turn our CIVIL RIGHTS into criminal acts. But the truth is that unless we do more than sit on our asses pretending to be doing something by signing petitions, things will continue to get worse. Much worse. If no one is willing to make a sacrifice and actually make a statement, regardless of the threat of being ‘penalized or punished’, it will ALL be lost.

And we are almost there. The only ‘activism’ i’ve seen are the temper tantrums thrown by the pink pussy hat crowd who were outraged because the left’s female Trump lost the election.

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…were launched before 2008.

The demographic that put them over the top were the whacked out senior conservatives over 65.

That demographic is not the Baby Boomers. You are referring to the prior generation.

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…were launched before 2008.

The demographic that put them over the top were the whacked out senior conservatives over 65.

That demographic is not the Baby Boomers. You are referring to the prior generation.

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@Pluto's Republic See my comment below.

That's as accurate as I can get.

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we're experiencing the shadow version of what was happening in the 60s and 70s. Then, as now, the Baby Boomer generation was receiving help from the Silent Generation and even members of the Greatest Generation in doing a little social engineering.

Back then, it was the conscientious half (or less) of the Baby Boomer generation, aided by their conscientious or visionary elders (a fact which has almost entirely been lost because conventional wisdom is that Baby Boomers pulled the sixties and seventies and the left wing reforms thereof out of a special hat that they had hidden in a dimensional pocket only accessible to Baby Boomers). Since the late 70s, it's been the horrendous half (or less) of the Baby Boomer generation, aided by their most execrable elders, who now include few of the Greatest Generation, because most of them have died, but still include plenty of the Silent Generation.

What's horrible is that so many people who were conscientious, and so many who were neither conscientious nor horrendous, decided, in the 80s, to jump on board with these horrendous, execrable forces. For the past 12-15 years, many or most of those people have been wanting to jump back. But it's much harder to jump out of a hole than to jump into one.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

…evolution of consciousness during and after the 1960s that I have ever read.

Thanks for posting it.

I have captured it and will pass it on at every opportunity.

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@Pluto's Republic Thank you so much, Pluto! Wow. Um, thanks!

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