The start of the U.S.-Russia tension

Earlier this month the U.S. began seizing Russian consulates in America.

Even at the height of Cold War tensions, it was unthinkable that the grand diplomatic properties of either side would be “seized” in a fit of irascibility.

Then just two days ago, Russia threatened to bomb U.S. troops in Syria.

The Russian Defence Ministry said the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) had taken up positions on the eastern banks of the Euphrates with U.S. special forces, and twice had opened fire with mortars and artillery on Syrian troops who were working alongside Russian special forces.
“A representative of the U.S. military command in Al Udeid (the U.S. operations center in Qatar) was told in no uncertain terms that any attempts to open fire from areas where SDF fighters are located would be quickly shut down,” Major-General Igor Konashenkov said in a statement.
“Fire points in those areas will be immediately suppressed with all military means.”

In the coming days, Trump will probably "sanction" NATO ally Turkey for doing business with Russia.

It's Erdogan's stated plan to spend billions purchasing the S-400 missile defense system from Russia that threatens to spoil his chummy relationship with Trump.
According to the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act, which Trump signed into law last month, the administration is required to sanction any foreign entities that engage in significant transactions with the Russian Federation's defense and intelligence sectors, according to lawmakers and experts.
Erdogan announced last week he signed the $2.5 billion contract with Russia and put down a deposit, ignoring public and private U.S. warnings.

How did things get so bad?
Most people think it started with Ukraine in early 2014, but in fact it actually started nearly a year earlier.

On Friday, a senior State Department official told the New York Times that countries throughout Latin America had been made aware of the repercussions of granting asylum to Snowden.
Relations with any country seen to be helping the former NSA contractor would be "in a very bad place for a long time to come", the official said.

And again.

The Obama administration on Wednesday again warned the Kremlin of negative repercussions if Snowden isn't turned over to the United States to face espionage charges.
...Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) went one step further, telling The Hill last week that the United States should boycott the Winter Olympics in Sochi as retaliation.
“It might help, because what they're doing is outrageous,” Graham said. “We certainly haven't reset our relationship with Russia in a positive way. At the end of the day, if they grant this guy asylum it's a breach of the rule of law as we know it and is a slap in the face to the United States.”

Relations with Russia have never been warm, but we gladly overlooked the Russo-Georgian War in 2008, eventhough the situation had many similarities to Ukraine in 2014.
I'm still glad Russia gave Snowden asylum. I just wanted to point out that this all started from pride and arrogance in our MIC, not from security concerns.

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Sorry, can't find link but looks like US weapon makers were pushing for NATO expansion for a long time now. So you have this and Clinton expanding NATO and then it culminating in the Ukraine coupe. So this has been building for years. With the Ukraine, the Russians could no longer just complain and had to start acting but supporting the separatists and taking over Crimea (I don't think they "invaded" Ukraine). And then later preventing overthrow of Assad by ISIS.

The cost of the NATO expansion has been estimated to be up to $125 billion. With of course the US picking up alot of the bill and then basically buying American arms for the expansion.

Interesting articles:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/russia-zapad-2017-putin-west-fake-ne...

https://sputniknews.com/us/201709191057502130-hysterical-us-lawmakers-br...

In the second article several House members accuse Sputnik radio in DC of effecting election. Problem is that they weren't up at running at the time of the election.

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@MrWebster

Dr. Jill Stein and 1 other follow

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

@divineorder Amazing that article is from 1998. I guess the cliche is true: follow the money.

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@MrWebster
we looked the other way when Russia crushed Chechnya (while committing horrible war crimes).
We also didn't much care about "Russian aggression" in Georgia (which was also about Russian separatists).

Only after Snowden did Putin become the new Hitler.

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I'm still glad Russia gave Snowden asylum.

He's still pushing the envelope !

(OT we are disappointed that Lannon Foundation bringing Glenn Greenwald and Tom Engelhardt to Santa Fe sold out before we could get tickets. Meh.)

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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This is the proof of what we have been saying here. This is the smoking gun that in a country that had a real justice system, many people in the Obama administration would have been charged with treason for aiding and abetting our enemies. Bush said that they were considered to be our enemies when he gave his "you are either with us or against us" speech.

One article I read years ago said that McCain should have been charged with treason because he went to Syria without getting permission to hold meetings with the leaders of Al Qaida and ISIS.

This is one of the meetings he held with the leaders

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Another one

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Besides American exceptionalism, what gives us the right to put sanctions on any country that we want and why can we tell other leaders what they can do with other countries?

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.

@snoopydawg

That's what that exceptionally huge military Americans are being drained to provide is for: global control and take-over.

If they're going to kill us all off anyway, why wait until ready to spring at their corporate-captured 'allies' after the others have been taken down? Start by incrementally killing off many of the most vulnerable populations, and work their way up from there, as has already been in progress.

And try to complete that before the rest of the world finally bands together to take The Psychopaths That Be down globally first.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Well, basic self-preservation would dictate that the rest of the world bands together in self-protection from the fascist monster running America.

Like the corporate 'political' parties used to keep the American victims quiet for so long, the US Psychopaths and Parasites That Be have made themselves so obviously damaging and hazardous to all that they've also made themselves obsolete as any sort of purported ally - incapable either of keeping their word or any connection to reality.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

This is the basic underlying reason for US hostility. After the USSR collapsed the US enjoyed "Total Spectrum Dominance" over the world. The concept is that no square kilometer on the planet could deny US power (Area Denial). Modern Russia emerged from the scrap heap of Soviet history as a modern, powerful country with endless resources, great science and technology and a legacy of strong military inherited from the USSR. And, the best leadership on the global scene, and that's not just Vladimir Vladimirovich but a host of folks.

I would not be surprised if the oil price crash was engineered by the US through Saudi Arabia.The oil money was fueling an incredible construction boom and rebuilding of the military in Russia. But what did the US promise S.A.???

The US deep state is in a complete panic mode now because of Russia's performance in Syria. Russia proved that it has a very modern, potent, well organized military and has produced the only positive military outcome in the M.E., a real slap in the face to the US. US client states Israel and Saudi Arabia are in total panic. Israel will have a strong Arab neighbor to the North who will demand the Golan Heights be returned and will champion the Palestinian cause. I can't imagine a worse outcome for the Axis of Chaos and Profit. Other M.E. countries have taken note of Russia's success. That Russia is a competent, effective, respectful ally. Iraq in particular is working with Russia and Syria. When it came time to buy tanks, Iraq compared the US M1A1 to the Russian T90 and went with Russia.

Snowden was not extradited because the US and Russia do not have an extradition treaty. That's the US's choice. They refuse to extradite any bad actors to Moscow. Yet they expected Russia to turn over Snowden. This was a massive act of arrogance.

The Russo-Georgian war was used a propoganda in the West. A UN commission investigated the hostilities and determined that is started entirely by Georgian aggression. Remember that scumbag Mikheil Saakashvili? The UN determined that he attacked Russia, totally unprovoked. Did the US put him up to it with reassurances? Probably. As an escaped convicted criminal from Georgia he was made governor of Odessa by the US puppet government in the Ukraine. And then kicked out. Apparently even the neo-naziis in Kiev could not stomach him.

There is an obvious solution to the US-Russia hostilities ... friendship. Yeah, Russia is all for it. But the US would have to treat Russia and her interests as equals. An end to being the one and only indispensable nation in the world? A hard pill to swallow. What politician in the US could run on that? This is going to be a slow painful process where Russia and the emerging nations, China, India, Brazil, Iran and most of the world, both in population and GDP, finally put the brakes on the West.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

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I would not be surprised if the oil price crash was engineered by the US through Saudi Arabia.The oil money was fueling an incredible construction boom and rebuilding of the military in Russia. But what did the US promise S.A.???

As my livelihood is quite dependent on the price of oil, I was very alert to changes in that market. I have had a strong suspicion from the very beginning that the precipitous drop in oil prices was engineered by the Obama administration. The timing was just a little too convenient with the unrest in Ukraine, etc.

My guess is that Obama was more than willing to sacrifice the profits of the oil corporations and throw them to the wolves. It's not Obama partnering with the Saudis as much as him doing the bidding of his pals on Wall Street. Wall Street hates Putin, as he put the skids to their ransacking of Russia. These Greedsters are still foaming at the mouth with their lust to control the world. Putin stands in their way, and soon China in conjunction with them ... not to mention the other BRICS countries and their sympathizers/allies.

I've waited, in vain so far, for some in depth investigation of the oil price drop which considers a political motive. There have been plenty of economic based reports, but few - if any - that considered the possibilities of a political cause.

Despite the rantings of our right-wing friends, whose propaganda claimed otherwise, Obama had twisted the oil spigots wide open rather than constrained them. He allowed the frackers to operate as if there were no tomorrow, including the massive use of this technology in Gulf of Mexico leases. Few people realize this. Yes, an oversupply of oil caused prices to crash (and remain very low), but Obama policies are what allowed the massive over-production on the US side. I do not discount that the Saudis were probably complicit in the scheme.

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@travelerxxx This was a coordinated effort to punish Russia. Ironically there was more economic disruption among the Gulf States than there was in Russia. Serves 'em right.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@dervish
Decrease in oil prices caused the Russian Ruble to fall. Simple economics, Russian oil companies had fewer dollars in revenue to buy Rubles and therefore the value of the Ruble fell fast. At first Elvira Nabiullina, Russian Central Bank Governor, fought this by buying Rubles on the market. It was causing a rapid draw-down of currency reserves. So she made a great decision to stop. The Ruble devalued by more than half, from just under 30 Rubles to over 70 Rubles per dollar. However, Russian oil companies were being paid in dollars. So as oil prices tanked from $100+ per barrel to around $50 per barrels today Russian oil companies, and the Federal government's tax income remained about the same as before in Rubles. The M.E. oil exporters economies are tightly coupled to the Dollar so they got slammed. The downside for Russia is that it created an almost two fold inflation on imported goods. That, and the pernicious always increasing punitive economic sanctions pressured Russia into being more self-sufficient, a very very good move. Russia is seeing record levels of exports for grains and, ugh, military equipment, also finished goods based on textiles. The produce embargo on Europe was very clever as it accomplished many things. It was very punishing on Europe's farmers, it controlled inflation in Russia, and it stimulated domestic production, and it established new lines of agricultural trade all over the world. A consumer boycott is drastically more effective than a producer boycott, unless the producer has a monopoly, unlikely today in the world economy. It's an enormous FU to the EU. It drives home how nasty and arbitrary economic sanctions can be, actually war by other means. Due to devaluation in the Ruble, travel in Russia is a huge bargain. Moscow and St.Petersburg are two of the most interesting modern and historic cities in Europe, and now they are 1/2 off! There are no signs of economic distress in these cities and the construction cranes are everywhere.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

@The Wizard is nothing more than a huge waste into a black hole.

(without even going into the massive killing and destruction)

When will the madness stop?

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@The Wizard I'm happy for Russia. They are very smart players it seems.

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@travelerxxx

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29643612

Falling oil prices: Who are the winners and losers?
By Tim Bowler Business reporter, BBC News

19 January 2015
Business

Global oil prices have fallen sharply over the past seven months, leading to significant revenue shortfalls in many energy exporting nations, while consumers in many importing countries are likely to have to pay less to heat their homes or drive their cars.

From 2010 until mid-2014, world oil prices had been fairly stable, at around $110 a barrel. But since June prices have more than halved. Brent crude oil has now dipped below $50 a barrel for the first time since May 2009 and US crude is down to below $48 a barrel.

The reasons for this change are twofold - weak demand in many countries due to insipid economic growth, coupled with surging US production. ...

...Russia loses about $2bn in revenues for every dollar fall in the oil price, and the World Bank has warned that Russia's economy would shrink by at least 0.7% in 2015 if oil prices do not recover.

Despite this, Russia has confirmed it will not cut production to shore up oil prices.

"If we cut, the importer countries will increase their production and this will mean a loss of our niche market," said Energy Minister Alexander Novak.

Falling oil prices, coupled with western sanctions over Russia's support for separatists in eastern Ukraine have hit the country hard.

The government has cut its growth forecast for 2015, predicting that the economy will sink into recession. ...

...Venezuela is one of the world's largest oil exporters, but thanks to economic mismanagement it was already finding it difficult to pay its way even before the oil price started falling.

Inflation is running at about 60% and the economy is teetering on the brink of recession. The need for spending cuts is clear, but the government faces difficult choices.

The country already has some of the world's cheapest petrol prices - fuel subsidies cost Caracas about $12.5bn a year - but President Maduro has ruled out subsidy cuts and higher petrol prices.

"I've considered as head of state, that the moment has not arrived," he said. "There's no rush, we're not going to throw more gasoline on the fire that already exists with speculation and induced inflation."

The government's caution is understandable. A petrol price rise in 1989 saw widespread riots that left hundreds dead. ...

... Although Saudi Arabia needs oil prices to be around $85 in the longer term, it has deep pockets with a reserve fund of some $700bn - so can withstand lower prices for some time.

"In terms of production and pricing of oil by Middle East producers, they are beginning to recognise the challenge of US production," says Robin Mills, Manaar Energy's head of consulting.

If a period of lower prices were to force some higher cost producers to shut down, then Riyadh might hope to pick up market share in the longer run. ...

...Alongside Saudi Arabia, Gulf producers such as the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait have also amassed considerable foreign currency reserves, which means that they could run deficits for several years if necessary.

Other Opec members such as Iran, Iraq and Nigeria, with greater domestic budgetary demands because of their large population sizes in relation to their oil revenues, have less room for manoeuvre. ...

...Nigeria, which is Africa's biggest oil producer, has seen growth in the rest of its economy but despite this it remains heavily oil-dependent. Energy sales account for up to 80% of all government revenue and more than 90% of the country's exports.

The war in Syria and Iraq has also seen Isis, or Islamic State, capturing oil wells. It is estimated it is making about $3m a day through black market sales - and undercutting market prices by selling at a significant discount - around $30-60 a barrel.

United States: Fracking boom

"The growth of oil production in North America, particularly in the US, has been staggering," says Columbia University's Jason Bordoff.

Speaking to BBC World Service's World Business Report, he said that US oil production levels were at their highest in almost 30 years.

It has been this growth in US energy production, where gas and oil is extracted from shale formations using hydraulic fracturing or fracking, that has been one of the main drivers of lower oil prices. ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-is-said...

Saudi Oil Is Seen as Lever to Pry Russian Support From Syria’s Assad

By MARK MAZZETTI, ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICKFEB. 3, 2015

WASHINGTON — Saudi Arabia has been trying to pressure President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia to abandon his support for President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, using its dominance of the global oil markets at a time when the Russian government is reeling from the effects of plummeting oil prices.

Saudi Arabia and Russia have had numerous discussions over the past several months that have yet to produce a significant breakthrough, according to American and Saudi officials. It is unclear how explicitly Saudi officials have linked oil to the issue of Syria during the talks, but Saudi officials say — and they have told the United States — that they think they have some leverage over Mr. Putin because of their ability to reduce the supply of oil and possibly drive up prices. ...

...Mr. Putin, however, has frequently demonstrated that he would rather accept economic hardship than buckle to outside pressures to change his policies. Sanctions imposed by the United States and European countries have not prompted Moscow to end its military involvement in Ukraine, and Mr. Putin has remained steadfast in his support for Mr. Assad, whom he sees as a bulwark in a region made increasingly volatile by Islamic extremism. ...

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-29651742

Lower oil prices, reflected in falling petrol prices at the pump, have been a boon for Western consumers. Are they also a potent US weapon against Russia and Iran?

That's the conclusion drawn by New York Times columnist Thomas L Friedman, who says the US and Saudi Arabia, whether by accident or design, could be pumping Russia and Iran to brink of economic collapse.

Despite turmoil in many of the world's oil-producing countries - Libya, Iraq, Nigeria and Syria - prices are hitting lows not seen in years, Friedman writes.

Analysts identify a number of possible reasons for the steep drop - increased US production, slowing economies in Europe and China and steady production from the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (Opec).

Rather than look at the causes, however, Friedman says to look at the result - budget shortfalls in Russia and Iran - and what it means.

Who benefits? He asks. The US wants its Ukraine-related sanctions against Russia to have more bite. Both the Saudis and the US are fighting a proxy war against Iran in Syria.

"This is business, but it also has the feel of war by other means: oil," he writes. ...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Ellen North

Thank-you so much, Ellen! Excellent!

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@The Wizard

What an utterly outlandish concept. Such an idea is quite literally unthinkable, anywhere within a 100 mile radius of Washington DC. Far better to up the Pentagon budget by a few more billions. That'll teach those uppity Ruskies a thing or two. And if it doesn't, we can just bomb the fuckers!

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speaking of countries being made aware of things, the chatter says that US channels have said that if Lebanon doesn't grant citizenship to the 2 million Syrian refugees in the country, that Lebanon will be destroyed. Another channel said that October is going to be hot for Lebanon.

They want to upset the delicate ethnic balance to marginalize the Hezbos. Our lovely American friends can't help but shit in the living room every time we invite them over.

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@dervish

u.s. diplomacy. this is bizarre.

"we have met the enemy, and he is us." - pogo

the possum was right.

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When TPTB are as dumb as a sack of hammers, they see everything as a nail...

Edited to more closely repeat the saying.

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.