Trump, Mika and Joe and why I dont effing care.

These people amongst so many others played with the truth over the years in the name of ratings. They helped create the monsters that rule us, they have helped divide America for their own hubris and greed. So many of these media fakes have made their fortunes by spreading falsehoods, they are no better than Alex Jones and his ilk; just a little less obvious.

Only when someone comes after them directly do they care, why the fuck should I care for them? The talking heads and I really don't care who they purport to support are in for their own personal gain and for the most part don't give a shit about the fallout. I also include much of the Russia! hysteria in this, I have seen no proof that Russian interference changed anything at all. A hell of a lot of accusations supported by our spooks but with no actual documents on the table. All we get is "The United States Intelligence Community has concluded with high confidence" blah blah blah. I suppose we have conveniently forgotten all the lies the have spoon fed us before?

Americans elected a racist, sexist, sociopathic narcissistic entitled moron into the White House, that tells me all I need to know. I already knew Putin is a devious monomaniacal egoist. I also knew that countries try an mess with each other for their own advantages, the US being experts at this.

For god's sake will someone tell me something I don't fucking know?

We have some major fucking shit on our plates that not one fucker seems to really give a shit about.

- Climate Change and Pollution in general [e.g. plastics basically coating the planet in a thick layer and entering every damn food chain]

- Never-ending Wars.

And when Climate Change really kicks in our current global squabbles will seem peaceable by comparison.

I'm fed up of the show time farce that is taken for political discourse today

Sorry I'm not writing much, I'm too fucking disgusted.

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"Look over there! It's Haley's Comet!

Did you know they killed more people today?

[video:https://youtu.be/VUlOjXwLBYk]

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@Big Al accusations of incitement to violence/terrorism.

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@LaFeminista

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(they being the media) remain silent about it.

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

@Steven D well you have to look at both sides of the fucking crazy

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to discuss or think about. Our media has descended further than ever to me, I can't watch any boob tube coverage AT ALL. Our country is busy going back to being 12 year olds, led by our greedy media.

I just finished reading Seymour Hersh's article in full and wow. We are now at the mercy of the Generals for fucks sake and even they can only placate that idiot for so long. But hey, let's all get on Twitter and have an outrage fest, such a great distraction.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

@lizzyh7 Correct link

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article165905578/Trump-s-Red-Line.html

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@LaFeminista in Der Welt or Die Welt. I suck at links but I found that in a Counterpunch by St Clair today and decided to read the whole thing instead of the bits and pieces I'd seen.

I'll check out Salon. I usually only scan that for propaganda value, and only once in a while really!

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

@lizzyh7 they reference it

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@LaFeminista It;s a transcript of dialogue between an American soldier and a security advisor.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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First they silenced the venal self-aggrandizing cable hosts and I did nothing

Then they silenced the . . . . etc. etc. until we get down to

Then they silenced all remaining open vocal opposition.

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And yes, there are bucketfuls of irony in the Pumpkinhead they helped to install into office training his baleful and revengeful orange visage on them (Joe and Mika). Frankenstein syndrome.

And yes, what passes as political discourse and commentary in this country is a farce and a disgrace as are most of the practitioners. No argument there and I share your disgust.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

@Phoebe Loosinhouse I really find it hard to give a fuck about them, I suppose I could spare a couple of minutes for them.

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@LaFeminista Trump is doing real damage to the media but they so fully deserve it in so many ways it's very hard to pity any of them. The more honest of them are not even in sight while these lying shills act all indignant over their treatment by Trump. They've made this bed for themselves in so many ways and we are the ones ultimately hurt by that.

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

@lizzyh7 and it is not as if many of us didn't warn them.

Then again I warned the Democratic party faithful that Trump was a danger to Clinton and was mocked.

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@LaFeminista

I ribbed you a little bit, too:

Then again I warned the Democratic party faithful that Trump was a danger to Clinton and was mocked.

After all, how can Trump be a danger to Clinton? Trump is Clinton in a boy suit!

(I know that's not the point the Dim-o-bulbs were clobbering you with, however!)

Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@Phoebe Loosinhouse  

Frankenstein syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golem:_How_He_Came_into_the_World

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"+ According to a new Pew poll of public attitudes in 37 countries, the USA is now viewed favorably by less than 50 percent of the global population for the first time. Committing genocide against the indigenous inhabitants of America, enslaving millions of people, nuking two cities, killing three million people in Vietnam, overthrowing regimes around the world, polluting the global atmosphere and engaging in the most heinous forms of torture didn’t do it. Nope. It took Trump."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/30/the-case-of-syria-and-the-bleedi...

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@aliasalias
It also took Hillary's loss to get thousands of people in the streets.
Not Obama saying that he had the authority to kill 3 American citizens without due process.
Or his using drones in countries that had nothing to do with 9/11.
Or destroying Libya on false pretenses or arming and funding the same terrorists organizations that fought against our troops during the Iraq war.
Nope. It took a misogynistic ass to get people to put on hats that represented women's genitals and come together to protest against him.
Even though Hillary was going to continue to do what Obama had spent the last 8 years doing.
Good lord, I feel like I'm inside a reality tv show.

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@snoopydawg

Nope. It took a misogynistic ass to get people to put on hats that represented women's genitals and come together to protest against him.
Even though Hillary was going to continue to do what Obama had spent the last 8 years doing.
Good lord, I feel like I'm inside a reality tv show.

The worst thing about all this is that it is the reality we all live in now.

Bad

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@thanatokephaloides aliens watching what we are doing on our little planet and laughing their grey little asses off at the stupidity of the human race.
Especially polluting the only planet we have to live on.
Under the Dome is a great book. The tv show not so much.

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Symbolic offenses. Symbolic victories and defeats.

Symbolism in the place of things that mean something IRL.

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@gjohnsit

[limousine] Liberals are all about symbolism.

Symbolic offenses. Symbolic victories and defeats.

Symbolism in the place of things that mean something IRL.

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Limousine Liberals are all about cymbalism. As in:

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

-- Christian Scriptures, I Corinthians 13:1 (King James Version) source

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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first the Russian propaganda bullshit that has gone on for over a year, and since the CNN lackey admitted that it was just for the ratings, TPTB had to come up with something else to distract the rubes from what the republicans are doing in the background after congress confirmed people who are tearing down our regulatory agencies.

Many people are unaware that the republicans overturned most of Obama's last minute legislation. The one that lets websites sell people's browsing history so they can be targeted with ads that fits their preferences. I don't remember what the others were, but if Barry had felt that he needed to pass that legislation, he would have done it sooner so that the republicans couldn't touch it.

Now he's off being repaid for services rendered while he was in office.
In 8 years, not one person was charged for defrauding millions of people all over the world.
Illegally foreclosure on people's homes? Pay a small fine for it.
Launder drug money for dangerous drug cartels? Same thing.
Defraud the government by overcharging it for student loans at an for profit college that won't even get the students a real job? Pay a small fine for it, but make sure that no wrongdoing is admitted so that the students are stuck having to repay their student loans and not having a job and having no way to repay it, except for a minimum wage job that will keep those ex-students in poverty for decades because they are saddled with debt that they can't discharge by bankruptcy. (another gift from Biden)

The republicans are trying to take health insurance away from the most vulnerable people which is going to see thousands, then millions of people die. This is intentional depraved indifference and if anyone else tried to do something this harmful, they would be charged with a crime.

The fact that the democrats haven't shut down congress so that nothing can get done until the republicans stop with this bullshit, tells me that they want this to happen. They are still telling people that the time for single payer isn't here yet. For god's sake, if thousands of people losing their health insurance isn't time for it, when is it?

And why the hell did democrats think that Ben Carson would do a good job being the head of HUD?
Or any of the other people Trump appointed that had a history of wanting to tear down the agencies they were appointed to? It's not brain surgery or rocket science. It damn ridiculous!

What is happening in this country has been in the works since FDR passed his new deal legislation. Both parties are complicit in making changes to it. Let's remember what both Clinton and Obama did or tried to do to it. Bill was going to privatize social security in a deal he worked out with Newt, but fortunately for us, he couldn't keep his pants on or closed.
Obama created the cat food commission with the goal of defunding or dismantling it, but for some reason he wasn't able to achieve his goals.

I'm sorry if I wrote too much. I am fucking disgusted because the republicans are trying hard to kill me and others in the boat with me.

This tweeting shit is just another distraction and I can't believe how many people aren't seeing what is happening.

Thanks for writing this.
I feel much better now. Not Sad

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@snoopydawg

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@snoopydawg they are only trying to kill the people with either 1) no insurance or 2) lousy insurance that doesn;t help them. Anyone who can afford (or is gifted) gold plated cradle to grave pay for everything insurance they haven't tried to kill - yet.

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@Steven D
This program is already under funded and it is very difficult to find doctors who take it. This is what I found in my area, anyway.
Yes the republicans want to do away with funding people's insurance too, but to totally dismantle Medicaid is just down right heinous
They also want to de-fund SNAP, section 8 housing, housing vouchers and Trump wants to totally eliminate LIHEAP which is the program that helps the poor and disabled with their electricity and gas bills in the winter. This program too is under funded as well as the others that we rely on to survive.

When Clinton passed the crime bill, he took $17 billion out of the social programs and gave it to the police and prison industry.

The republicans took $8 billion out of SNAP during one of their first budget legislation and Obama signed the bill when he could have used a signing statement to prevent that much money being taken out of the program.
I doubt a lot of people are even aware of just how much damage he did during his tenure.
This is obvious because people gave him an 80% approval rating.

Imagine this. He did the much more of the same things that Bush did and yet, barely anyone said anything about it. Sure the republican voters hated him, but not for the right reasons.
I just finished reading this article on counterpunch and this stood out.

The Case of Syria and the Bleeding Women

The liberal antiwar movement (if there ever was such an entity) has shriveled into an anti-Russia claque, aligning itself fatally with some of the most bloodthirsty hawks on the Hill and in doing so is abetting every drone strike, cruise missile and MOAB bomb Trump drops.

Replace Trump with Obama and this same principle applies. I tried bringing this to people's attention on the GOS, but no one wanted to address it. Because he was such a charming man who had a beautiful family. How could he do anything bad? The use of drones wasn't seen as being wrong, they were seen as saving our troop's lives.

I hope that people will have a chance to read this article that lizzy posted. It covers a lot.

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@snoopydawg

I tried bringing this to people's attention on the GOS, but no one wanted to address it. Because he was such a charming man who had a beautiful family. How could he do anything bad? The use of drones wasn't seen as being wrong, they were seen as saving our troop's lives.

Typical limousiners. The image is all-important; the realities behind it, insignificant; so long as they keep their comfortable lives intact.

Gak!! Bad

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@Steven D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y3nlI5oock

Muse - Unnatural Selection (lyrics)

And, just to make the perps nervous;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbrWcvXceGU

Muse - Uprising (Lyrics)

We must never vote for evil again.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@snoopydawg This and your previous comment. The only evidence I have that the 2016 primaries didn't beat the last bit of optimism out of me is that I honestly hoped Trump would wake people up to how bad the entire system is, both parties. Instead, Trump himself is the outrage. He's continuing in the trajectory of Clinton, Obama and Bush and people are treating him like an outlier*. I really don't give a damn about the man's boorish behavior. It's a distraction. We're just going to get better behaved Trumps if people don't wake up and see he's a symptom not the cause.

*Yeah, I know. He's doing more faster and with more reckless abandon than the others. Or maybe he's just not smart enough to not brag about it. Either way, he couldn't do what he's doing if the system wasn't already in place or if there was a functional resistance interested in changing what is wrong not just humiliating the guy.

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Instead, Trump himself is the outrage. He's continuing in the trajectory of Clinton, Obama and Bush and people are treating him like an outlier*.

And you are right to say that he wouldn't be able to do what he is doing if the system wasn't already in place.

This is how I feel each time I read about what is happening in the Middle East. If Obama hadn't started the Syrian war, Trump wouldn't be killing increasing numbers of civilians.

We still have troops in countries that surround Russia, and it was Obama who put them there after he overthrew the Ukrainian government and supported the neo Nazis that are causing death and mayhem.
Biden's son is a CEO of one of the many corporations that are now able to access Ukraine. It just cost a few thousand people's lives, but what's a few thousand after killing millions since 1945?

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@snoopydawg
Any and All policies /Legislation enacted by Repubs /their Oligarch owners is intentional, with the intention, of course, of killing the bottom 80% or so. Their policies /Legislation has only two motives: one, fuck (with the intent of killing) the Bottom 80%. Two, enhance the riches of the Top 1%. Period. Fix potholes? Bridges? Pffff. Please... the 1% fly.

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@Wink
If the democrats were actually against the republican's health care bill, they would do everything in their power to stop it from passing. This means shutting down congress and going on every tv show they can and talk about it. This is what a real opposition party would do.
The fact that they aren't tells me that they want this to pass in some form.
Seriously, this bill shouldn't even have the possibility of passing, let alone being thought of because of the potential of so many people dying if it's passed.
Millions of people are possibly going to die if this passes.
Who could even think of creating it. In what reality can 13 rich men be responsible for creating this legislation that will affect millions of lives?

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

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that if you sit down at a poker table look around and can't see the sucker, you're the sucker.

Well guess what America. Take a real good look, around the whole fucking world. See any suckers?

Didn't think so.

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Dear Dems: You lost the WH, Senate, House, dozens of governors, state level SOS and AG and about 1,000 state legislative seats. Maybe...you're doing something wrong.

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@coloradoblue

There's an old saying that if you sit down at a poker table look around and can't see the sucker, you're the sucker.

Well guess what America. Take a real good look, around the whole fucking world. See any suckers?

Sure do. And the resemblance of all of them to me is frightening!

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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Trump is an idiot, but that's hardly news.

In terms of policy, he's continuing the same crappy policies of his predecessors, and that's what they're distracting us from.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."