Poll: Democrats want a change of leadership
Submitted by gjohnsit on Wed, 06/28/2017 - 11:26am
A call for firing Pelosi and Shumer might elicit chants of "shame! shame!" on the GOS, but those morons don't represent the majority of Democratic voters.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that just 31% of Likely Democratic Voters believe the current national leadership of their party is representative of most Democrats. Most (58%) feel instead that the party needs to find new leaders. Eleven percent (11%) are undecided.
By comparison, a plurality (48%) of Likely Republican Voters believes the GOP’s current national leadership is representative of most Republicans. Slightly fewer (45%) say the party needs to find new leaders.
Among all likely voters, only 23% feel the Democratic leadership is representative of their voter base, while 64% think new leadership is needed. Twelve percent (12%) are not sure.
And to think, all it took was to be wiped out on a national level and lose over 1,000 elections.
Just 11% of Democrats said in late April that their party’s efforts to oppose President Trump during his first 100 days in office were successful.
The McResistance isn't convincing. Not even the base.
Also in February, unsuccessful presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders was the first choice of Democrats to run against Trump in 2020, with Hillary Clinton in second.
And I suppose you want a pony too!
Comments
Yes! I want a whole team of ponies!
I want all the ponies that they have been promising me since I first registered to vote in 1966!
And I want to keep the ponies that FDR and LBJ gave me, not "means test" them and turn them into welfare programs.
And I want one big draft horse, Universal Basic Income big enough to live on so we can eliminate welfare as we know it. No bureaucracy. No examinations. No lawyers. Just electronic funds transfer to all citizens every month.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Nope no ponies, just a bunch of
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Dems have had their lot
A bunch of my younger, CA and NY twitter friends still think the dems are winning, and I forgive them because they're young, stupid, rich, or some combination thereof.
Reality is that the instant you publicly say Hillary was as bad, if not worse than Trump, people agree with you. Not publicly in the media, of course, where the 1% have spent millions on trolls to crush that message, but in face to face conversation. The dems are losing the dinner table, not through the intimidation of Uncle Earl, but because even Aunt Rhapsody Moonbeam can see that the resistance is made up of Brooks Brothers Riot rejects.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Young? Eh, maybe not so much
My experience finds that our youth are not so easily fooled. So much so, that I can nearly assume when talking to a young adult that they understand the rasher of bullshit that's being floated. In large part, they don't seem to be falling for the foul effluence spewing from either the D's or the R's.
Young to following politics, maybe?
I realize lot of people my age (40s) don't get the back stories of what's going on because they really haven't been paying attention. Even during the Bush 2 years, they might have shared some of his dumber malapropisms on social media, but they weren't really following his administration. They came out to vote for "hope and change" but didn't really follow Obama's administration close enough to see through "the Republicans made me do it" hogwash. I feel like more people around me now are at least aware of things going on, though their lack of experience really thinking about politics is leading them on the "Trump baaaaaaad" bandwagon rather than actually looking for root causes. I think that's part of what is causing too many to confuse Trump's incompetence and the general crippled condition of US politics as "wins", even though nothing is actually being gained.
As always, YMMV. Just what I'm noticing.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
When Mitt Romney's
47% don't come out to support McResistance... well, you don't have one.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Fat chance of Pelosi or Schumer stepping down
without a fight. They will stay in power until at least 2018 and probably longer, unless either decides to retire from public service for some unrelated reason such as poor health.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Or voted out -
nah - probably not realistic. When will their constituents get a clue that they are part of the problem and vote them out?
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
@Raggedy Ann
Would those votes actually count to get a Progressive in instead?
And would Homeland Security (and the unnamed private interests who apparently will be 'at the table', where the American public can be shut out of all info having to do with the electoral infrastructure/election data, including that of voter registration) honestly tell you if they didn't?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I thought if they had their asses handed to them
...In November 2016, they would take a hint and resign. Isn't that was Prime Ministers, Parties, and Presidents usually do these days?
Who could have foreseen.... No matter how much you flush, they just won't go down.
We can't even get Obama to go the hell away.
He is just a reminder of how much Democrats lie to get elected and then stab their constituents in the back.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
This is a test...
http://imgur.com/6j23QV3
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
This is a test...
http://imgur.com/6j23QV3
And it failed... fuck
one more time.
http://imgur.com/a/ZoArB
zero for two - damn
and again
finally
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Obama? Hell, we can't get a break. Clinton,
the proverbial boil on the collective ass of the Dimocritic 'Party', is back and on the campaign trail. These shits will never go away.
That's why we need a whole new party. One that isn't on record claiming to have the right to lie, cheat, and steal us pissant and peasants. In a court of law no less.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
@Pluto's Republic Needz a plunger...
Needz a plunger...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
or "more time with
the family." But, yeah, neither is leaving due to any pressure from the unwashed 99%.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Schumer loves the camera
too much to step down voluntarily.
Maybe Pelosi's family will sit her down and describe to her the many ways they've noticed she's totally losing it?
Is our electorate learning?
HRC still merits as a second choice for prez... ???
Yikes!!!
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Hard to believe.
I am convinced Americans are the dumbest people on the planet.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
When you're told repeatedly
that you have no other option, people believe it.
Forget the study name, but they proved that 63% of American's would torture a person to death if ordered to do so by an authority figure.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
The Milgram experiment, named after Yale University psychologist
Stanley Milgram.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
Meanwhile, Harvard’s psychology profs were experimenting with LSD, resulting in the “Miracle of Marsh Chapel.”
Abu Ghraib
Beware the bullshit factories.
Which called to mind the Stanford prison experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
@Timmethy2.0 American cops.
American cops.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I've been house/pet sitting. The person
I'm doing it for (to pay off a debt) has almost destroyed my faith in humanity. She programs her television in advance to record her 'shows'.She was all upset because while I was sitting here trapped with the dog and the construction crew renovating her house, I overrode Dog the Bounty Hunter and 16 and Pregnant (who knew that crap was still on??), shows about a bevy of slutty women, and a few other bizarre low IQ trash 'shows' like that. WTF??? This is a woman who has a great job, has a position of responsibility, makes REALLY good money, and seems like a normal person. But she is fascinated by this garbage. She's programmed hours of this crap.
She is not alone. Millions of people in this country, on this planet, are so damn screwed up that they watch this shit. The freaking dumber the show, movie, music, the more popular it is. We are surrounded by millions who think the Kardashian/Jenner bunch are people to admire and emulate. IMO that crap is starting to show up in our daily culture. I am a child of the 60s. We were pretty 'far out' but I can promise you that anyone who suggested wearing a 'pussy' hat to a demonstration for women's rights or civil rights, or anything else, would have been laughed at and shunned. No one would have taken her seriously. And no over-the-hill old female pop singer would have dared to offer blow jobs in return for votes, jokingly or otherwise. Crude and stupid is the freaking order of the day. It's almost like intelligence and dignified behavior are now illegal.
I believe that people are getting dumber and dumber by the minute. I expect very little from my fellow citizens anymore.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
I think a lot of people get screwed up
at least in part, because they watch too much of this trash. Way too much. If every teevee set in America were to somehow be disabled for just one month, I believe we would see an immediate and substantial improvement in everyone's mental and physical health.
native
you are what you eat.
You are absolutely right. I've watched more tv in
the last 2 weeks than in that last two years combined. But I've watched every flavor of Law and Order there is. At least it doesn't kill brain cells. At home if I watch I watch PBS but it's not on this cable bullshit. Or if it is, between her programming, a remote that I can't figure out, and no idea where the Hell to find the PBS stations, I just stick with that stuff or read. Last week I put away 2 books. I need to wait to get my SS so I can go to the used book store for some more reading material, and that won't be for another week. So it'll probably be me and Olivia and Mike and Ed and Munch and Detectives Goran and Eames for another week.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
There is of course, always the more radical solution...
Though I don't suppose your hosts would appreciate that very much.
native
No, probably not. But WTF? I was just accused of 'betraying a
Trust' on a par with neutering her cats (even though she had dogs) so how much worse could shooting the squawk box be?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
There are a number of TVs belonging to people I know
That Id like to smash in.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Pay it no mind. It was merely a fit of pique.
native
I'd be upset too no matter what the shows were.
She hired you to house sit, not to be her censor. You abused a trust.
I suppose you'd be mad if she got upset because you neutered her cats?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
I didn't abuse ANYBODY's trust. I was told I 'could watch
the television". Here's a bit of info I left out of the original story, I have nothing to sit on but the floor. Her furniture is icovered in plastic and off limits. Because I am working off a debt I have no right to complain. There is a company that has 4 guys and they are working on renovating her house. Today I was supposed to sit on the stairs to the basement to make sure "no one working down there walked out with" any of her precious junk. She is abusive to them as well. She is a hoarder and there are piles of crap almost up to the ceiling in half the house with pathways around and through it that these other poor schmucks have to work in. I would say almost half of it is still in boxes and ups/ fed ex packages that have NEVER been opened. I am NOT a security guard and didn't sign up for this abuse and the workmen are tired of the unspoken insinuation that they are all thieves that are just milking her for money and sitting around on their asses because things aren't getting done as fast as she'd like.
I bring my own fucking food and things to drink. I am not allowed to take a Coke of a bottle of water. Although I am mainly there to watch a dog, she has made me responsible for everything her workmen do wrong or that she is unhappy with. The day the painters got some paint on the floor she threw fits. I somehow should have prevented it or fixed it. She just got off the phone an hour ago after laying into me for something else they did today that doesn't meet her approval. I don't think I will ever go back no matter what she threatens.
These poor guys working there are tired of it as well and wish they'd never agreed to work for her. See, they need work and she said she would make the place 'accessible'. Now they're just trying to get done so she doesn't sue them for not 'fulfilling' the contract. This is what people who NEED money put up with to get work. Or in my case, to pay off a debt (a loan to keep my gas on). And people with money can really stick it to people who have none. Are they too 'betraying a trust'?
So until unless you know the whole story you need to keep your opinions to yourself and stick to the original subject. My changing a television channel is like neutering her cats???? 1) it's DOGS , cool guy, not cats;, and, 2) missing an episode of Dog the Bounty Hunter is a not 'betrayal of trust' since she did say I could (sit in the floor and) watch tv. Her abusing everyone around her is a betrayal of 'trust"; and 3). It probably saved a few brain cells from a cruel death.
You should have stuck to the original discussion and not tried make this story fit your own dramatic scenario and making it all about things about which you're totally ignorant.
EDIT: the/they - noted in order not to 'betray' any imagined trust or neuter any fucking cats.
EDIT EDIT: Henry/Toots
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
@ Amanda Matthews, right you are, fight back
to those who want to make you feel guilty or ashamed or untrustworthy. It's bs.
imo experience the reason why so many of the Democrat elite or othrs in the power that is, never represent the struggling small d democrat people, is, because they never suffered under poverty or under serving the military and being forced to risk their lives in wars that the US should never have engaged in.
The basic shit is that even here in Germany we have same trends. For example our "conservative" Angela Merkel fought for a small d democratic policy out of humanitarian conscience and help refugees here, and she is accused by the Trumps and our own social Democrats of having done a bad thing.
The new buzzword seems to be here: multi-kulti and it is supposedly not working, multi-kulti standing for peaceful neighorhoodly living of refugees and asylum seekers of several cultures and ehtnicities together with the "native Germans". It's always the same, people who have something to lose, be it power, land or money and safe jobs, will do everthing to keep what they fear to lose. The only difference I can see is that more people here resign when they obviously fail to represent the interest of the "poorer, little people" majority, be they "poor and conservative, or poor and social democrats".
All bs. Keep calm and nip it in the bud.
https://www.euronews.com/live
(No subject)
May be I don't understand correctly
the meaning of "nip it in the bud"... if so, I apologize.
https://www.euronews.com/live
my little joke.
see below.
might want to nip yourself a bud...
got any music?
Dance party! all over that house.
You can't dance in that place. You'd kill
yourself on the Pods or random stuff packed in that placeAnd I wish I had some bud. About a pound of the stuff. But if you borrow to keep the gas on it's highly unlikely that you can squeeze something like that into the budget. BUT IF I COULD...
EDIT: in/on
EDIT EDIT: went to save but all of a sudden my title line was too long. Fixed it.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
hope good things turn up for you
meanwhile, thx for lol.
"...followed him around for 3 days!"
I loved loved loved that song...
I see the lights
I see the party lights
Red and blue and green
Hey, THAT did help. Thanks!
(Forgot to tell you that.)
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Hey! Where are you now? You and your two upvoting buddies?
I'm not taking that ignorant insult quietly. It's 5:31am and I sitting here waiting to see if she thinks I'm going to do that shit for another day so I will be right here waiting.
EDIT: rights/ right
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
You fight it out with her.
I'll never let you house sit and monkey with my stuff.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Where did you ever come up with the stupid idea that i'd
consider doing anything for someone like you? I can't imagine anyone ever wanting to
do anything for you. Lord knows what bad drama you're capable of cooking up or what kind of a stink you'd cause for attention. I've seen your type of behaviour before but it's generally been from someone around grade school age. Immature smarminess is very unattractive in what is supposed to be an adult. (That's just a little helpful tip. My good deed of the day.)
P. S. Let me help you out with something else that obviously confuses you. D-O-G does not mean the same thing as C-A-T. The terms are not interchangeable. And Here is how to tell them apart in real life fe. Cats are the ones that go "meow". Dogs go "bow wow". MY post said D-O-G. That's the one that goes "bow wow".
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Remember "The Learning Channel" ??
Remember "The Learning Channel" ?? I do. I loved it while it lived. But it's extinct today.
note: "The Learning Channel"'s successor, TLC, is where 16 and Pregnant airs. And the channel's entire lineup is the same kind of worthless, tasteless garbage.
Gak!!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Haven't had cable for years but wasn't it The Learning Channel
that .eventually turned into the Hitler Channel? I know I quit watching one of them for that reason. And A&E (Arts and Entertainment) turned into anything but art. It became 'Entertainment ' for people who could barely raise a blip on an EEG.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
The Hitler Channel
No. That was "The Military Channel" (AHC today).
Ah, "Dog the Bounty Hunter" central!
The problem here is that "people who could barely raise a blip on an EEG" are, all too often, the same people who will buy shit just to shut the salesman up. And since advertising is canted towards such people, and advertising pays the bills, it doesn't take a mathematician of PriceRip's prowess to predict what will happen -- every time.
Truly I say unto thee again: Gak!
If you have some sort of access to "Classic Arts Showcase", a free and no-ads channel actually devoted to the arts, you'll get there what A&E falsely promised to deliver.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
WHAT???
I thought we were EXCEPTIONAL!!!!!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
dumbest people
Not really. It's just that Americans are not exceptional; like all other human beings, the more of us acting as a group, the less intelligent that group is.
This gave rise to the saying:
“No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
which is a paraphrase of H.L. Mencken saying:
source
Please note that Mencken's actual observation is quite international in nature, applying to the "masses of plain people" everywhere; but some unknown wag paraphrased it to point directly to Americans.
Don't get me wrong -- altogether too many Americans deserve the paraphrased version! But we're far from unique!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
American people are not unique at all,
but our nation's particular brand of stupidity is buttressed by the most powerful and most expensive military the world has ever known. This fact alone would make the USA exceptional, if not unique. And then there is also the petrodollar, which gives us the ability to create our money out of thin air -- a truly unique and enviable ability.
native
Perfect answer. I was going to point out that our military
has toys and an attitude that makes us the biggest threat to human life on this planet and they use them constantly. But you said it much better that I would have.
EDIT: to add my last sentence that I somehow either made disappear or I'm to angry this morning to know what I'm doing.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
@native
Isn't any government in a country having control over its own currency able to do this?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
The Learning Curve is long here.
And not help by omission and commission by the press. Swallow the pill.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Well our
"Dumbing down America" school system hasn't helped much.
Neither has the MSM, which only offers various smorgasbords of lies to subscribe to.
Democrats only, on a poll taken in February
Not the electorate, just democrats -- who we know include a significant contingent who just can't get over Her. But even among dim-o-crats I bet those numbers have tumbled since February. Her Blame Tour last month didn't set well.
@Bollox Ref
Poll probably offered two and only two choices; virtually everyone picked Bernie so Hillary got the number 2 spot by default?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I don't see any change until . . .
. . . what's left of the party is released from its captivity by the Clinton crime family.
The only way
that the Clinton crime family will let go is if the Democratic party is sent into oblivion by the people. I have never wanted to see a party die as much as I do this version of the Democratic party.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Klinton Krime family
Or if the Clintons themselves are, they and all their associate crime syndicates.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Best case scenario
is that they are forced to flee the country to avoid prosecution.
No, the best case scenario
would be for them to be prosecuted and sent to jail where they belong.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
@gulfgal98
I believe that we have to take out the corporate/billionaire backers first, from whom the Clintons borrow power and suck money, like too many other politicians and both of the Two-Faced Corporate Party Wings.
Only then can they hope to peacefully rest, bedded down amid the humongous piles of hundreds of millions of dollars (speeches being big money for them, as well as big money being speech, since only big money talks in language that they and those others among the pathologically greedy they represent can understand,) which they've never thought sufficient for retirement, but then would have to learn to make do with.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Breaking ...
Chuckles gets a clue.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QOU6e7M_jc&t=10s width:500 height:300]
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
@Azazello
The butler in the library, with a candlestick?
It seems so appropriate that the Dems lost the House, only it never did belong to them but to the American people, which would explain why they don't seem to care...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
You guys would get a kick out of the conference
I am attending for work. Heard from DCCC today that spun the recent special elections, especially in MT & GA as positive! Or so their polling data shows! Someone asked the question why Ossof didn’t go after Handle on Trumpcare. The answer was the race was already too "nationalized". Goodness if you can't beat a candidate that doesn't support a liveable wage who can you beat? Also interesting when they put up an electoral map for 2018 they had no races targeted in WI. None! The colleague I was with said they must have wrote off WI! Guess so! They also opened a "West Coast Headquaters" in Orange County CA to "get out of the Washington bubble"! I thought this was a comedy routine but I guess not!
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
Pelosi: She's like a zombie vampire
What a bunch of wags on here!
Priceless. Shaking head. Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Oh for shame,
to abuse such a sacred trust. Next thing you know, she'll be uprooting all the houseplants.
native
LOLOL - Thumbs up for the last line!
Naw, that's fine. I don't really want a pony. But I'm happy to pick over the bones of your dying party to see if there's anything useful before I discard the rest into the rubbish bin of history.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
With all this manure, there must be a pony in here somewhere!
Optimistic Reagan joke, sorry. Two peas in a pod Obama and Reagan. Clinton is more like Nixon in my view, they're all crooks.
The Pony in the Dung Heap, Ronald Reagan, Eleanor Roosevelt and You
Eleanor Roosevelt, I wonder did she ever imagine a room so full of money again that civil recourse has become moot, as the world burns and enters a new extinction era, from too much human pollution or so we're told:
Did she ever imagine secret electronic voting and counting machines? Or super-delegates? I wonder.
peace
This ended up in the wrong place
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa