Dems are losing by every metric SINCE the election
A lot of attention has been given to the grassroots vs. establishment political battle in California this weekend, but an event that is more representative of the current state of the Democratic Party happened this week in Broward County, Florida.
Last night, the party's new second-in-command, Sally Boynton Brown, spoke in front of the Democratic Progressive Caucus of Broward County. And throughout the exchange, she steadfastly refused to commit to changing the party's economic or health-care messaging in any concrete way.
"This is not going to be popular, but this is my belief of the time and place we're in now: I believe that we're in a place where it's very hard to get voters excited about 'issues,' the type of voters that are not voting," Brown said...
How important is it for candidates to concentrate on "issues" like health care or economic equality, one audience member asked. Her answer? Not very. She said candidates moving forward should focus on "identity messages" instead, which she didn't actually define.
Later in the meeting, she then said that people who are struggling to make ends meet — and often decline to vote because they say it doesn't matter — do not vote based on "issues" they care about and instead vote because they are "emotional beings."
It's one thing to show contempt for Republican voters. It's another thing to show contempt for your own party base.
But telling your party's voters that they are emotional children who are too stupid to understand the issues right to their faces is taking elitism to a whole 'nuther level.
Is it any wonder why the Florida Democratic Party is so pathetic and useless?
Just in the past month polls have shown that 2/3rd of Americans believe the Democratic Party is out-of-touch.
Even the Dems own internal polls show that voters think Democrats’ economic policies will favor the wealthy.
While Brown was belittling the concerns of Florida progressives, purple state voters in seven cities in Iowa were protesting for Medicare-for-all. This mass protest was done outside of the Democratic Party, which has decided to fight for Obamacare even while it implodes rather than fight for a health care solution.
Is it any wonder why Democratic voters are walking away from the party since the election?
Those former Democratic voters are increasingly identifying as independents, who in turn are increasingly viewing the Democratic Party negatively.
Whatever the Dems have done since the catastrophic election, whether it is the McResistance, or the doubling-down on identity politics, while ignoring the issues of the struggling working class and white men in particular, it's making a bad political situation even worse.
At this rate the Dems will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2018 yet again.
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But look!
They're getting one republican for every three democrats they lose.
It's a sure fire way to win I tell you.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Not to mention that demographic wave
The Dems will be a permanent majority in no time at all.
I thought that name sounded familiar
When she was running for DNC chair, Sally Boynton Brown said her job was to train people on--and I quote--"how to shut their mouths if they are white."
Although I notice that Ms. Boynton, who is white, hasn't volunteered to shut her own mouth, or refused donations from wealthy white liberals (money being speech, after all.) It's just those other white people she thinks should shut their mouths. You know, the ones who aren't writing her checks.
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum." --Noam Chomsky
Well isn't that special
Bless her heart.
She must have went to school to learn how to make people like her.
/s
Well, this is one reason the Alt-Right is making inroads
Things like this only give credence to the Alt-Right’s claim that an anti-white ideology has taken over and that soon any white person who doesn’t join them and fight will be forced to knuckle under.
Look at the contented smile on the black lady.
Then the look on the white guys face -- "Wait. What did she just say?". hahahhaha
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
@movie buff Bingo!
If you support Hillary you get a "Good White Person" pass.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Must be the same
reason kos has decided the only good white voter is a dead white voter. "The party is moving browner, and we must find ways to make brown people feel welcomed under the big Dem tent. You white people just need to keep your mouths shut. You're just in the way."
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
I take it that Sally Boynton Brown
is a fully paid-up member of McKos of the McResistance?
She certainly sounds like it.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
This very white and very emotional ...
leftist plans to raise all kinds of hell in Jackson County, Oregon if that group of Democrats is as stupid as those in Broward County, Florida.
I just might need to kick ass and take names.
Good on you
So, they haven't noticed
the emotion of disgust over Dems avoidance of dealing with the issues is killing their party's chances of winning.
When a Dem leader gets their qualifying lobotomy, do they have to pay for it, or does the DNC?
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
I live on a bog standard street
made up of bog standard ranch homes in a bog standard first ring suburb .
I can guarantee for Ms. Boynton Brown that jobs, income and healthcare are very much the issues of the day.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Destroy. This. Party.
“If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”
YAY!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
In the classic words of Arlo Guthrie.....
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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@thanatokephaloides Like that!
“If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”
hmm. so let me understand this.
in the past, dems have attempted to win a certain bloc of voters by promising to do things that will improve the lives of those voters.
however, when elected democrats have generally failed to address the problems those voters face: unaffordable education and healthcare, disappearing jobs, etc.
the same voters have noticed this reality, and have concluded that it doesn't actually matter whether they vote, because even when the person they vote for wins, the voters find themselves shafted.
therefore, rather than addressing the voters' concerns, the democratic party should stop even pretending to have respect or interest for the voters' material interests, and should instead just use emotion-based propaganda to turn out their illusory "base".
have i got that right?
i mean ... wouldn't it be easier to just, you know -- address the voters concerns and problems when you have power? wouldn't they probably vote for you again, if you were to do that?
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Answer: Barack Obama
Addressing voter concerns does not equal acting on them.
IMO that's The Empty Suits's real legacy. Blatant lies
delivered with a patronising demeanor and a semi-smirk on his face. That's another big reason the Clinton Creature lost. People got real sick and tired of being lied to by the guy and finally realised that lying to us plebs by our elected 'representatives' is no longer considered wrong or dishonest nowadays, it's to be expected. (Google read the latest on the DNC lawsuit for proof of that claim.)
Clinton lost to Donald Trump. THAT in and of itself should tell the Dims something. Instead they decide to lie (or refuse to face the truth?) and cook up some ridiculous tale about Russians and 'treason'. Because it could never be that people hated the woman after over 30 years of bullshit and baggage. Oh Hell no,
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Yeah, and we really
We need to get rid of these dems.
We need to form a 3rd party.
I'm still left wondering why so many people on this site still support 'reforming' the dem party.
dfarrah
Well, no
They don't just use it
@UntimelyRippd
Around 1995, I asked a Democratic state representative why Democrats don't deal with the problems of employees who are being cheated by their employers, as well as related issues. He gave me a dismissive response (I remember this clearly): Dems would, "Win every time!" It was just like the response children get when they ask their parents (as all children do ask), "Why don't we get rich if it's so fucking important?"
I still don't understand that simpering response. The best and most successful political idea ever conceived in this country was the New Deal, which focused on the eternal battle between employers and employees. Modern liberals seem to think they are too sophisticated to do something as crude as helping the cheated with the most basic necessity of living in a moneyocracy -- i.e., money.
This...
Doing good stuff wins votes for doing more good stuff wins votes for doing more good stuff........
Apparently, donor money is preferable and easier, the country be damned.
(Edit: supposed to be a reply to UntimelyRippd)
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
This explains
why Dems lose Florida.
@TomP One more level of
The Democratic party was NOWHERE when Black people in Florida actually needed them. NOWHERE repeatedly. NOWHERE in 2000, when Black voters were shafted at the polls. NOWHERE in 2004, when it happened again. NOWHERE when Trayvon Martin was killed.
Yet somehow they are Black people's best friends.
Yeah, right.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Saying that on TOP will get you bojo'd
I know I got buried in HR's when I pointed out that the AA community was worse off after 8 years of Obama.
So much for being reality based. n/t
SBB actually managed to insult
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I just can't believe
They are working very, very hard, not just cooperating a bit here and there or ignoring the Bernie side completely. The repubs running the dem party have clearly decided on all-out-war against any deviating person or idea.
dfarrah
Black people and the Dems in the South
And yet, when Massa Clinton called them out to sabotage and then vote against Bernie in 2016, Southern Black voters did exactly as they were told (vote Clinton).
NO ONE has ever been able to explain that to me. And I can't understand it at all.
Black Lives Matter didn't disrupt Hillary Clinton's campaign events. They did disrupt Bernie's, despite Bernie having spent decades helping Black people in many ways while the Clintons repeatedly hurt them. And then, when the Southern Dem primaries came about, the "Black firewall" dutifully turned out to vote for Hillary Clinton.
This is before we even start to delve into the whole "all support for the working class is really racism" bullshit....
grrrrr....
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
IMHO Blacklivesmatter is Clinton astroturf.
And I think blacks didn't vote for Bernie because he was a Jew.
I've heard the explanation that he was white, but when the Hell did Clinton become black?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
@The Voice In the Wilderness When the hell did
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@thanatokephaloides They didn't disrupt
One of the things which has made it difficult to interpret current events is that there's now a difference, a sharp one, between the leadership of institutions and the membership, which is such a sharp divide that now you actually have to distinguish (for instance) between the Bernie Sanders campaign (official, employs Jeff Weaver, etc.) and the Bernie Sanders campaign (grassroots), which was largely independent, volunteer, and not exactly under the official entity's control.
In the same way, I think you have to distinguish between Black Lives Matter (original and official) which didn't seem interested in politicians much at all, but was more involved in putting their bodies in the way of traffic to alert the general public to the daily murder that was going on, and other direct action tactics like that, Black Lives Matter (later incarnation, official) which was deeply interested in the Presidential race, and, I heard, actually did get funds from Soros, and Black Lives Matter (grassroots) which interrupted Hillary's speech in Atlanta with song. While John Lewis ran back and forth shushing them, an image I will probably carry to the grave (ugh).
Grassroots organizations can be founded and then easily co-opted; similarly, non-grassroots organizations, that are tools of the establishment from the get-go, can attract sincere and honest ordinary folks who believe in the stated aim of the organization. That's why analyzing things is so difficult--even talking about things is difficult!
The level of corruption is such that I think we need to rethink the way we analyze things, because the intense and endemic levels of corruption are distorting everything, and none of the relationships are what we assumed them to be.
For instance, I suspect what happened to BLM was the same thing (ironically) that happened to the Tea Party: there was real anger and distress that sought organization and action; there was also a powerful co-opting force that wanted to make use of that anger and distress without assuaging it. There's the leaders, the buyers/donors, and the rank-and-file.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
BLM disruptions
I was unaware of this. All the disruptions I knew of were to Bernie's campaign.
Thank you for informing me of this!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@thanatokephaloides Sure thing!
I don't want to swamp your original point, though; it IS true that the second iteration of BLM seemed to be more for the purposes of torpedoing Bernie's (and, less importantly, Martin O'Malley's) campaigns on behalf of Hillary than anything else.
In the case of O'Malley, who was responsible for the Baltimore Police for a good many years, they had a real gripe. In the case of Bernie?
Whatever bad policies Bernie might have supported over the years, I don't know of any time that he's supported racism, and, in fact, he's sometimes been the lone white guy who shows up when things go wrong.
So yeah, what they did to Bernie was pretty horrendous, actually, and you're right, we couldn't really get a straight story as to where this (pretty crazy) loyalty to the Clintons was coming from. Especially after what she did to Barack Obama when she was campaigning against him.
I couldn't even disagree with Obama on his drone policy, or even his Social Security policy, without people calling me racist; but Hillary could say that "hard-working people, white people, won't vote for Barack Obama," circulate pictures of him in traditional Kenyan dress, and come up with the 3 a.m. phone call ad. Then there were the repeated comments about the Kennedy assassination. That should have been enough to end Black people's support for her forever, you would have thought, given the implications of throwing around suppositions of assassination about a Black man running for President, but no.
She's the only white politician I know who's ever successfully flip-flopped on the race war, in under a decade, and been embraced and defended by Black people while doing it.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Democrats too overworked to develop a message.
Unofficial transcript of SBB's canned speech to Jimmy
S: Strong messaging
J: What's the message?
S: We need message discipline
J: What's the message?
S: We need to have conversations with the voters
J: What's the message?
S: We need to tell them we want to help
J: What's the message?
S: We need to have dialogue with various factions
J: What's the message?
S: I'm not a policy person
J: What would be your message anyway?
S: I concentrate on administering the message
J: Have you tried communicating with the 50% who didn't vote?
S: Hummina, hummina, hummina, er...no
J: If you did communicate with the 50% non-voters, what would you tell them?
S: I would tell them about our values
J: What's the message?
Have you tried communicating with the 50% who didn't vote?
I have a meme for that.
@Alligator Ed What's the Message, Mr
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
She's got her college
degree down, and damn little else. "Infrastructure" might be a nice college buzzword, but the DNC just isn't interested in Leftys, Libruls and dirty hippies. They're happier seeing us staying home than coming out to vote.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
So who exactly decides the message?
I remember once somebody writing that they volunteered with Dems and saw that the workers really had no say in the party. Even at the local level, the biggest donors had the most influence.
I left my local
party's inner circle becuz of that, and when it became clear they were more interested in the cocktail parties than electing Democrats.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
@Wink Oh dear gods. I know
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Well-intentioned organizers like Ms Brown
are trying to "unify" a Democratic Party that is in many ways, structurally and financially beholden to the interests of the one percent -- albeit perhaps the more socially liberal elements of it. Hillary Clinton's campaign provided ample and unappologetic evidence of this linkage. The interests of big pharma, Wall Street, corporate globalists and the like, clearly do not often coincide with the interests of a potentially re-invigorated Democratic base. I think that's the main problem the Party's organizers are facing, but seem unwilling to recognize.
If Bernie Sanders' vision of the Party is fundamentally incompatible with say, Clinton's and Schumer's and Pelosi's vision, then trying to cobble the two contradictory messages together into a single narrative is going to be difficult, or impossible. At the moment, the only cohesive narrative the Dems have, is a negative one -- the fact that nearly everyone to the left of Hitler is opposed to Trump. How effective this negative factor will be in terms of getting Dems elected, remains to be seen.
native
The "Trump factor" has
zero value, will not win a single vote in 2018 or 2020. Something the Pelosi corporate party seems to miss. "All we need to do is point at Trump and we win back the House, I get my gavel back!" Good luck with that.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
The Dems consistently underestimate
No Nancy, you're not getting your gavel back.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Take it from a long time resident Floridian.
That Brown person is tied in with DWS. What exactly is identity politics? Something stupid like a cult of personality? The Floridumb DP has been a disaster for decades. Sad but very true. How do you think actual indicted crooks like Scott get elected and reelected? I keep hoping that citizens like me will make a difference. I'm a natural optimist, but I have my doubts now. Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
I wish I could rec this multiple times
This is exactly why I have come to despise the Democratic party. They are hypocrisy in action.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Arrogant and racist too.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
@gulfgal98 If you're a Floridian,
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Yep and now
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
One persons identity politics
They are paid to look weak. On purpose.
That's why the Democratic Party currently doesn't give a flying fuck about the issues. If FDR and Harry Truman were alive today I doubt they'd survive a primary.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
FDR and Truman ???
They're fucking retards !!! Just ask Rahm.
Putin texted me
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
So independents have a lower opinion
of the Democratic Party than 3rd party voters? Wonder what that means.
On to Biden since 1973
That a lot of Indies are
ex-Dims who finally got wise?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
That's obvious
but what does that mean for a new party? Does that mean that reforming the Dems would have a better chance of success than we think or that reforming the Dems is demonstrably hopeless? Does that mean that recruiting independents requires a different strategy from 3rd party voters?
On to Biden since 1973
The odds of reforming the Dims are about as good as
the Dims admitting that the Clinton Creature didn't lose because RUSSIA!!!! but because she's a horrible person and an equally horrible candidate. Oh, and great as us 'far left' haters getting any say in how the "party' is run. We saw how they feel about us last time around.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Democrats want your money, your vote, but not you.
Sally Boynton Brown was the Executive Director of the Idaho democratic party before this gig. Just to confirm, the Idaho gop controls the governors mansion, state House and Senate, and all Congressional seats Senate and House. Good job Sally Boynton Brown.
I don't think that Brown is about having no message as she clearly criticized Clinton for poor messaging during the campaign.
http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/sally-boynton-brown-democratic-national-co...
Brown is typical anti-progressive Clinton establishment--I think her point about issues is that the party should not have as its message progressive policies. Basically she attacks and marginalizes messages over economics by claiming poor people don't care about wages, jobs, schools, food security, etc. (Black people don't care about low wages according to identity politics).
She goes after Sanders in a rather bizarre way. A few people jacked over Bernie's policies created the energy and excitement which drew in the mass of supporters. It was not policy, but those early supporters who created the excitement, and it was only the excitement which drew people in. Sorta like the Gloria Steinem smear of young female Bernie supporters who just wanted to get laid so they went to where the young men were at. The young women did not care about issues and policies just like poor people. Also, I think by poor people she may really be meaning white poor people--just a symptom of being a deplorable.
Yah, give your money, your votes, and then fuck off.
Feel Like a Number?
Right,
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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
*headdesk forever*
"The issues don't matter." Well, there it is, isn't it?
This shit is bananas.
SBB
Heard her in Dec & was unimpressed.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Aw, shucks, MsGrin. I think you need to relisten to her
https://caucus99percent.com/comment/266545#comment-266545
More coverage from The Florida Squeeze
Florida Democratic Party President: Poor people don’t care about “issues” and vote based on “emotions”
Excerpt:
The Democrats elitism and obsession with identity could kill the party’s chances for revival
Excerpt:
@LoneStarMike You ain't seen "emotions
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Oh oh California, windows down in California
The millionaires, they know not what they do, I hope. Because the alternative is unthinkable to me, they are the clinical depression creators. Whacked.
Of course CA has all the best words, it took a while but they finally came around to uttering them. Meet the next governor: Bernie Sanders backers say Democrats are ‘in absolute crisis and denial’
Because millionaires know best of course. Or this guy:
But he is not one of those Davos Democrats right? Just another multi-millionaire who wants to do "good". Well go on then.
Thanks to all people fighting the good fight against the killer duopoly. It is a sickness in our society. "That's the system."
peace
"...there's no telling what she'll they'll be incredibly
prepared to have regret saying."
As in "comfortable shoes'?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
People ARE emotional. After rational analysis of
the incessant lies about issues they care about, the incessant sell outs over issues they care about, the incessant abuse of their time and effort and votes,
they get pissed and walk away.
duh.
rmm.
But then I sigh; and, with a piece of scripture,
Tell them that God bids us do good for evil:
And thus I clothe my naked villany
With old odd ends stolen out of holy writ;
NYTimes. Dems can't focus on messages cause Russia.
Got this article from David Sirotas Twitter feed. The article is about how Rob Quist campaign in Montana is talking health care and local issues.. He laughs at how NYTime reporters go on a sort of "political safari" and are shocked to find that people are not following the DC/NYC media narratives. Like they care about their more about their life struggles and not Russia.
And the national party is betting on the the Russia hysteria (and with no message or action plan on jobs/economic/health care)
But here is a quote on why democrats can't focus on economic issues.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/us/politics/outside-washingtons-blazi...
Can't chew gum and walk at the same time.
Rob Quist, yet another millionaire
F the Democrats, F them all to H
No justice no peace is where I am
Good day
Is this snark?
Rob Quist has negative net wealth and made all of $29,000 last year.
He's running against a guy who made his millions helping companies outsource jobs.
No it's not snark, not at all
Quist is a blank slate to me, except what is seen on TV (Internets), not of the social media kind. The wiki says he is very popular with mainstream media.
oops well I guess lesser evil for the win in Montana because Russia, right?
Anyone here from Montana? Wtf does R to D really mean in the big scheme? Red to Blue what? That is my question in the end. California is about as Blue as you can get, with all it's poverty and homelessness, extreme inequalities. Not a good reason to turn a seat blue if you ask me. And another thing! lol. (age 69), already past retirement age. What a great example for millennials. Yeah that last one was snark.
Thanks
You can find it in a google search
Here is an example
Just because TOP supports him doesn't mean Quist must be bad.
"just because TOP supports him doesn't mean Quist must be bad"
peace
Edit: don't use google, so I went to the source, the FEC filings. This just pisses me off now, bigly:
Another unemployed worker in my town gives hundreds of dollars to Rob Quist, because Bernie? The whole thing is littered with coastal money and yuge inputs from ActBlue, but go on good luck. Keep doing what looks like the same thing to me, but expect different results.
For more about Quist's opponent
see this story at the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/greg-gianforte-bodyslams...
"The special election called when Ryan Zinke vacated his seat has attracted national attention, and spending has reached $17m as the race has tightened. Democrat Rob Quist is a political novice and folksinger. Quist declined to comment on the altercation when approached by reporters on Wednesday." [snip]
and
"Last month, the Missoulian newspaper took Gianforte [republican candidate] to task for his attitude toward the press. At an event hosted by the Advancing Conservatism Society, an audience member reportedly said: “'Our biggest enemy is the news media. How can we rein in the news media?'”
Except that DHS now runs our elections.
My guess is they will fabricate a win and use it to generate false credibility. But of course, I hope I'm wrong.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver