James Comey fired! Watch out Hillary!

Today at about 5PM EDT, Trump fired Comey. This has already ignited a media firestorm with Democrats stating Trump did it to shut down the Russian collusion story. The Republicans meanwhile are citing Comey's marked failure in handling the Clinton email case and most recently for possible obstruction, by slow-walking the Susan Rice unmasking case.

A brief sampling of the early reports shows the expected divide in the two Duopoly factions accusations. The following does not pretend to be encyclopedic. In fact, this is going to be another long diversion from issues that truly matter to the Americn people like income inequality, austerity, Medicare-for-all/single-payer (MFA/SP), environmental protection, ending of war, etc. So watch the show, knowing it is another perversion of our so-called governance.

Why did Comey get the invitation to leave and don't let the door hit you in the ass treatment? Here is one article offering six reasons for dismissal.

1. He hurt the FBI's reputation--he certainly did.

2. He mishandled the Clinton email investigation--yes, again

3. He broke with tradition--

a "departure from the department's widely respected, nonpartisan traditions."

In that sense he also did.

4. Trump doesn't like him--this is an understandable but illegitimate complaint. Personal animus should not interfere with analysis of whether Comey was doing his job, rather than who was he favoring. You will get debate as to whether Comey favored Clinton (which I think he did) or if he was just doing the best he could due to the pressure-cooker situation in which he found himself.

5. Trump is embarrassed by him--well, yes. That is not hard to do when dealing with a narcissist.

The president recently accused his predecessor, Barack Obama, of wiretapping his phones during the campaign. Comey has shut down this allegation, explaining that Obama could not order a wiretap of anyone's phone unchecked.

Yes, of course this was embarrassing. Trump is largely to blame for this by inartfully expressing surveillance as "wiretapping". Wire tapping is easy to prove or disprove. Trump should think before he tweets. (What a novel concept).

6. Comey knows something about Russia--this is pure bullshit speculation which has not resulted in any proof of political collusion. Business dealings, yes, with non-politicians. This is certainly considered admirable by all the free-marketer neoliberal who so worship "the market". More damn hypocrisy by the DemonRATs.

From a timeline relating to Weiner's sexting/Abedin's transmitting documents comes the following:

May 9, 2017: The Washington Post and Associated Press follow up on ProPublica's article, claiming that none of the emails were designated as classified when sent. The FBI sends a letter to Chuck Grassley, the chairman of the Senate judiciary committee, about Comey's testimony. The letter says that the "hundreds and thousands" of messages Comey referred to included backups and forwarded emails, and investigators looked at 49,000 potentially relevant emails but "ultimately determined that two email chains containing classified information were manually forwarded to Mr. Weiner's account." Ten other chains with classified information were also on the laptop because of backup software, and together all 12 "previously had been reviewed by investigators."

Then, in a surprise twist, Trump fired Comey. The decision apparently came at the recommendation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the latter of whom wrote a memo insisting that Comey needed to be terminated in order to restore Americans' confidence in the FBI after his mishandling of the Clinton probe.

Trump himself wrote in a letter to Comey that the director was "not able to effectively lead" the FBI. "It is essential that we find new leadership for the FBI that restores public trust and confidence in its vital law enforcement mission," Trump wrote. "I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors."

From another article comes statement about FBI officials' criticism of Comey's inaccurate Sentate testimony:

On Thursday, May 4, Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee that Hillary Clinton’s deputy chief of staff at the State Department, Huma Abedin, “forwarded hundreds and thousands of emails, some of which contain classified information” to her husband Anthony Weiner’s laptop for him to print out.

The problem is, none of the emails were marked classified at the time, and Comey’s description of how the emails ended up on the disgraced former congressman’s computer is inaccurate, according to FBI officials who spoke to the investigative journalism nonprofit ProPublica Monday.

Now this is a sticky point.
1. Hillary directed her staff on occasions to not mark documents as secret when emailed to her unsecured server.
2. Comey's description of the transfer from Medusa to Weiner via Abedin was misleading. He said this action did not show intent.

Advice to fire Comey came from Attorney General Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein:

"It is not the function of the director to make such an announcement [about an investigation]," Rosenstein wrote. "At most, the director should have said the FBI had completed its investigation and presented its findings to federal prosecutors. The director now defends his decision by asserting that he believed Attorney General Loretta Lynch had a conflict. But the FBI director is never empowered to supplant federal prosecutors and assume command of the Justice Department."

Trump's letter to Comey regarding his firing contains:

"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau," the president continued. "It is essential that we find new leadership for the FBI that restores public trust and confidence in its vital law enforcement mission. I wish you the best of luck in your future

Rosenstein added further, in a separate correspondence to Trump:

"The way the director handled the conclusion of the email investigation was wrong," Rosenstein wrote. "As a result, the FBI is unlikely to regain public and congressional trust until it has a director who understands the gravity of the mistakes and pledges never to repeat them. Having refused to admit his errors, the director cannot be expected to implement the necessary corrective actions."

Explanation of DOJ's recommendations are found in Rosenstein's letter to Sessions:

Comey had been the subject of a review by the very top of the Trump Justice Department. Newly confirmed Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein penned an extensive memo for Attorney General Jeff Sessions outlining concerns with Comey’s conduct during and after the Clinton email probe.

The memo said “almost everyone agrees that the Director made serious mistakes.” Rosenstein wrote that he could not defend Comey’s handling of the end of the investigation, and could not understand “his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken.”

The first count against Comey, according to Rosenstein, was his July 5, 2016 announcement during which he alleged Clinton and her colleagues were “extremely careless” in handling classified material on her personal email and server but also said the FBI would not recommend charges.

The second point at issue in the firing:

The second count against Comey concerned his Oct. 28, 2016 notification to Congress that the bureau was taking another look at the Clinton case in light of newly discovered emails. While Comey has said he did not want to conceal information, Rosenstein said simply refraining from publicizing “non-public information” would not have been concealment.

Reactions of the Hillarites is fear and loathing:

There were few people who despised James Comey more than those political operatives working for Hillary Clinton in Brooklyn during the 2016 campaign. But word of the FBI director's firing was met with fear, not joy, on Tuesday.

Hillary Clinton's office did not immediately respond to a CNN request for comment on Comey's dismissal.

Foreseeable Implications of Comey's departure

In my opinion, this will not hurt Trump at all. The DemonRATs will throw all sorts of verbal missiles about him, alluding to the Saturday Night Massacre (already done by John Podesta), Trump's fear of his TRUE Russian collusion being revealed, and overall general unhappiness with anything Trump. This will have absolutely no impact, except for the MSM, who are already criticizing Trump for anything and everything. Due to Barry Obama's careful cultivation of the Democratic base, the Dem party is too politically feeble to mount a meaningful counterattack.

What this does portend is renewed push to bring Hillary down, now that Lynch, Comey and Bubba are out of the way. The era of Republicans not going all-out to sink HRC and co. is over. Susan Rice will be subpoenaed. Human Abedin will be subpoenaed. Anthony Weiner is probably already in possession of an immunity deal. Obama himself could be subpoenaed because of his use of Clinton's unsecured server and his lies about it.

My guess is that lots of people are going to prison because of this.

My guess is also that the DNC corruption trial will be successful.

If Trump ever wakes up to the fact that Deep Staters still remaining at State are still out to ruin him, he will get Tillerson to do more housecleaning.

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detroitmechworks's picture

@the_poorly_educated It's a good story, and Tom Clancy made a lot of money off of it. Now of course his corpse makes a lot of money off promoting the MIC, so not a lot has changed there.

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@the_poorly_educated The alleged transcripts of his nefarious conversation with Russian spies has not been released. Tell me what it says before you start throwing around treason charges.

If anybody committed a similar offense, it is Medusa, sending classified information from her server to US persons without security clearances--like Anthony Weiner, who DIDN'T read them but dutifully printed them sight unseen for his Saudi wife. If you believe that, then I have some Florida swampland to sell you.

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@Alligator Ed

Right? TRump's track record so far is so damn bad and where the hell are his taxes? That's right, he's still being audited. What type of shmuck loves being lied too?

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@the_poorly_educated But you knew that already.

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Everyone who is against Trump compromising the USA must be a HRC supporter.

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"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho

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@the_poorly_educated [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5UqUyFmT0]

Fine, I'm a Russian. You all know it, and my furry hat's at the cleaners.

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@detroitmechworks A nice allusion to the great Markos.

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@the_poorly_educated
as the Democratic nominee that pretty much gave the election to the Trumpeter.

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@CB

…but she thought she would be in the White House to see it through. It was not to be, and it didn't matter.

The Democratic Party was warned repeatedly that if they ran the most disliked politician in recent American history for President, she would lose. One way or another, the Left would make sure of that. I and others wrote numerous articles to that effect, beginning in 2011. Her disturbing sociopathic madness was on full display as Secretary of State — and it was a deal breaker. The Dem Elite knew it, too. But Hillary was the Neocon's Key to Global Empire, and she was in play.

As President, Hillary could continue America's international murder sprees and she would be fully inoculated from any criticism from the more pacific Democratic Party. As a Democrat and a woman, Hillary would be untouchable. — just as President Obama's violent obedience to the Neocons was above meaningful criticism from the Democrats. Hillary's presidency would give the Deep State an uninterrupted 16 year push for Empire without a peep of resistance at home. The American people would remain distracted and embroiled over gay wedding cakes, transgender bathrooms, and the next domestic kabuki du jour — while abroad, the destruction of nations and lives took place in their names. The American people would pay for every cent of it, too.

That is what has happened, to date. It is the force for Empire that leads us. Now, President Trump provides the required domestic distractions, while this Neocon carnage continues apace. We are desperately racing against time.

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@Pluto's Republic at DOJ, FBI, and State may signal a turn away from the Imperial Neocons and their bloodlust. Hope, but probably not change.

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@Alligator Ed

…one that cannot be reasoned with, toward a new course. That's the reasoning behind using sanctions against nations. The economy talks. It's certainly the only force that can stop a capitalist cartel with a corporate-owned government. That's how it will be for the US. It's out of our hands. I say that because I do not know of a case, in today's world, where a destructive nation was stopped from within, through political process.

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@Pluto's Republic constitute change from within? But you're probably correct, it will take a foreign actor to bring us down. Even a rotted tree sometimes requires a few blows from an axe.

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@the_poorly_educated @the_poorly_educated that he and Jill Stein committed was speaking at an RT event quite some time ago.

By that logic Ed Schultz and Larry King must be Satan incarnate, as they actually work for RT. Accepting money for giving speeches is perfectly legal, last time I checked, just ask Hillary and Obama.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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@the_poorly_educated "Russians helping Trump scam social media"

Ah, yes, that would be all of those Russian trolls and spammers on Facebook who manipulated me and millions of other folks to support Bernie instead of Hillary. Because, once again, it's all about Hillary and the DNC. Not about the ideas and values that Bernie stands for, which resonate with me because they're values that I've held for my entire life. Values which I've known the Clintons and the neoliberal Dems do not hold, because I've observed over the past 35 years what they've actually done and the destruction their actions have caused to the American people.

I guess it was just Trump's tough luck that David Brock abandoned the Republicans and started helping the Clintons with the social media trolling and scamming. Brock wasn't available anymore, so who was left for Trump to turn to, but the Russians? Blum 3

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@Centaurea A certain commentator, who has posted several comments on this thread, firmly believes that if you don't worship the teachings of Hillary, then you are a Russian dupe. Oh, Saint Hillary, forgive me because I have NOT sinned by worshipping at your altar of human sacrifice and greed.

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@the_poorly_educated

It's the quid pro quo with the Russians for helping Trump scam social media.

No quid pro quo required. Putin has mastered The Force and can readily perform Jedi Mind Tricks on most Americans, especially those that blindly support Hillary Clinton.

Here, I'll let Obi-Wan explain how it works for you:

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@CB Go to MSM or GOS for proof. But leave me out of GOS, thanks. The MSM clowns are so much more entertaining.

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@Alligator Ed

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@the_poorly_educated

But Correct The Record and other Dem trolls, even when using troll/click farms from other countries in attempts to deceive American voters, was totally American Apple Pie?

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@snoopydawg

According to this, which supplies only partial financial detail:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/04/23/us/clinton-foundation-don...

Donations to the Clinton Foundation, and a Russian Uranium Takeover

By WILSON ANDREWS APRIL 22, 2015

Following a 2005 trip to Kazakhstan by Mr. Giustra and Bill Clinton, where Mr. Giustra gained a YUUUUUGE uranium deal, in 2006 Mr. Giustra generously donated $31.3 million to the Clinton Fundation.

After Rosatom began to negotiate for investment in Uranium One, Guistra's now-expanded company, in 2008, various investors in the company donated $8.65 million to the Clinton Fundation over the 2 years following, during which time, a subsidiary of the Russian energy company gained a 17% interest in their company.

And it's simply stated that the year following, millions more were donated to the Clinton Fundation by Uranium One investors benefiting from this State Dept-approved deal, while approval from the State Department, among others within the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, was sought for majority ownership of Uranium One to be attained by Rosatom.

Bill was also - just at that precise time, in June 2010 - paid a cool half-million for a Moscow speech, by a Kremlin-linked Russian investment bank which 'assigned a buy rating to Uranium One stock'. And within a few months, approval was given.

So, it's hard to find precise amounts of Clinton profits from that particular deal, but there was a lot of money involved. 'They're capitalists', you know.

(Hope I haven't garbled anything, being atrociously tired; best to check at source.)

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@gulfgal98

Well, I do remember reading that the big time donors to the Clinton campaign were very upset that she managed to lose. ...

Isn't that why all electoral infrastructure was wrenched into secrecy beneath the swirling cloak of Homeland Security and away from all independent/public oversight, with related electoral matters discussed in meetings made Top Secret - except from unspecified interested private parties attending, not including the general American public?

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is not so optimistic, I'm sorry to have to say it, but my guess is no one connected to the Clintons will go to prison, and the DNC lawsuit will not be successful. They might settle it, but seriously, it won't matter. even if the DNC loses in court, it won't matter. The story is being buried either way.

On prosecutions - trump said in his first week as president that the "lock her up" line was nothing but campaign rhetoric. He said it "played well in the campaign" but now that he won "she's suffered enough" and to drop it. I will be shocked -- and very pleasantly surprised -- if they lift a finger against the Clintons.

I do find it funny how the Dems blame Comey personally for costing Her the presidency, but now they whine about him being fired? WTF. If he used his position at the FBI to sway a presidential election, as they insist he did, then they should be calling for *his* prosecution. Not defending him. Good lord, these people make no sense whatsoever. They're being ridiculous. (Thanks Sarah Silverman.)

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@CS in AZ Sessions hates Clinton. Now he will not have a giant roadblock in front of him. Trump owes Sessions a lot and will be more than happy to see his chief gadfly out of the way. Furthermore, no matter how the DNC suit goes, there will be a precipitous drop in small donor contributions because of the blatant corruption.

Voters will be correct in thinking "what good does my vote do"?

This Russia, Russia, Russia bullshit is going to fuel Trumpian rage more, if it hasn't already.

The DemonRATs are already ramping up the "Trump fired Comey because Comey had the goods on him for Russian collusion" meme. The Amen choir, aka MSM, is already learning the tune. This will backfire tremendously on the establishment. Half the country believes this Russia BS is just that. Plus Trump holds all the cards. Republicans rule Congress. Even the Repub anti-trumpets have no love lost for Killary.

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@CS in AZ I think that if it were ever really allowed to be fully investigated and aired publicly it would take more than just the Klinton Krime Family down, and they can't have that. Distract and divide. And a nice RWNJ now for FBI director, although I'm not sure that really changes that much.

But it would be a very nice surprise to be wrong here, and I of course would welcome it too.

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@lizzyh7 Why? Because most people, unlike the political aficionados on this site, will simply not make the connection. Yes, Republicans take bribes--lots of them. But the RNC did not collude to promote or cheat any candidate this year. That's as deep an analysis as many in the public will make.

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@Alligator Ed but they started too late and no one could agree on a single candidate to back, and (most important) they didn't see Trump coming. Their field was too big and no one was willing to bow out early. The DNC on the other hand had been working to elect Hillary since 2012.

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@Steven D
Trump never would have been elected, much less nominated, were it not for the Clintons

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@Steven D

What Trump may have done is treason

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"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho

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@the_poorly_educated Please cite the evidence.

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@Alligator Ed

She's not even in office anymore and all you "c99ers" are more worried about her then Trump the POTUS. Weird.

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"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho

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@the_poorly_educated She still walks the earth without realizing her demise. Find a wooden stake and cloves of garlic and a silver bullet. Then do her in.

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@CS in AZ

with which to prosecute Hillary, and win. So it would probably not benefit Trump to go after her in any seriously determined way. That would be as likely to backfire on him as not, making him more enemies than friends, and playing badly in the msm. It would be in Trump's interest to avoid the appearance of being unnecessarily vindictive. I think he's enough of a politician to realize that, and will try to keep Sessions on a short leash regarding Hillary.

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@native Unless you are a Comey-ite or HillBot there is more than ample evidence that Hillary knowingly, intentionally had classified mail sent to her private server. Plus on her leaked (or hacked) documents lead directly to the Iranians hanging a nuclear scientist who was our asset, due to Killary's reckless and wanton disregard of security. I suggest you review some of the 10,000 plus emails and articles pointing to Hillary's criminal behavior. Plus, the CGI money laundering scheme is not going to get a favorable review by the FBI and maybe the IRS.

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@Alligator Ed

And I wouldn't shed any tears if it happened. I just don't think the US duopoly is likely to self-destruct for the sake of putting Hillary behind bars. Far greater crimes than hers have gone unprosecuted.

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@Alligator Ed
gives a damn that she LIED for two freaking years about that server. Two damn long years before she finally started telling the semi-truth about its existence.

That's how the miserable wretch got her hubby impeached. If she hadn't lied about the billing records for the Rose Law firm for two years, there would have been no open investigation for Linda Tripp to go running to with the saga of Monica and Bill. (Now that's some might fine 'poetic justice' in my humble opinion!)

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@CS in AZ but I would expect the DNC case will not proceed. It will likely be dismissed for lack of standing or on some other procedural ground. If not, I think the major legal hurdle will be whether the plaintiffs can be viewed as the intended audience of whatever fraudulent statements that were made. I'd love to be proven wrong and I offer this only off the top of my head, but I don't see success. Still worth the effort. The public disclosures thus far have been enlightening. And if they get even some discovery, that could reap political rewards.

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@orestes but there is no way in which any judge could say there is a lack of standing when the members of the sueing party donated in the belief that the primary was fair AND that the DNC would follow their own bylaws. To allow the DNC to prevail in this case will be the death sentence for any pretense that elections especially primaries) mean anything but lies. Donations from small contributors will completely disappear. Yes, Citizens United will keep the corruptocrats' coffers bulging. But with the ongoing disappearance of the Democrats, they will be getting close to none--and the price of Republican bribery will also be lowered because there is no other game in town.

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Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.

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@GreatLakeSailor
No matter how low she went, he could go lower - a lot lower.

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@CB trump knows where the weakness is. He's like a shark sniffing for blood. Clinton is too busy focusing on how clever she comes off to worry about the substance of her barb. For example, I thought the most effective- simple and direct- attack trump made on clinton was when he asked whyu, in 35 years in politics, she had never done the things she says she wants to do. Very simple- and it cuts to the heart. Her only response was that defensive smirk.

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after his July weirdness, according to reports then. Even his wife was said to not be speaking to him.

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This is like the opening credits of a Dragonball Z episode.

Something may happen, but it'll take at least 3-4 episodes to get there, and there'll be a lot of pointless posturing which wont affect the outcome one bit.

Until then, I'm flipping over to the Climate Change channel, and the new developing California Dustbowl once they discover that they can't have every neighboring state's water anymore.

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@detroitmechworks as I mentioned in the essay. It distracts us from the real issues affecting all of us, not just the political class. And yes there will be 3 or 4 episodes accompanied by lots of hypocritical posturing before the finale. My guess is that Hillary gets an orange pant suit. John Podesta will be someone's bitch when he goes to jail--suck on that, dude.

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@Alligator Ed Let it be true. Please, let it be true.

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@crbngville

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@detroitmechworks

Sure, I see the actors moving on the stage and I can read the kabuki theater handbill just fine. But I have no idea what is really happening so I'm just treating this is a big ~shrug~ for now... apparently one segment of our plutocrats is fighting with another. I have no idea what the issues are nor do I know the teams.

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A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard

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@SnappleBC Then you be able to follow the players.

This may not be what any of us would consider a stellar achievement but Trump has put a significant dent in the Deep State by firing Yates and Comey.

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@detroitmechworks @detroitmechworks Ha, good ol' DBZ.

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I've been thinking that since the mid '90's.

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Dear Dems: You lost the WH, Senate, House, dozens of governors, state level SOS and AG and about 1,000 state legislative seats. Maybe...you're doing something wrong.

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@coloradoblue
It gives legitimacy to the US political duopoly "democracy" fraud.

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Even if someone does go to prison over this, it sure as shit won't be Clinton. It'll probably be some fall guy who will be just enough to satisfy Dipshit's ego, if that's even possible.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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@The Aspie Corner

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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@Not Henry Kissinger
would be on death row.

Why did The Weiner have to print out anything? Why were they automatically downloading ANYTHING to his personal computer for ANY reason?

I used to feel sorry for Hummus. Now I just want her locked away somewhere so her particular brand of needy stupidity is something we no longer have to hear about.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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@Amanda Matthews @Amanda Matthews but a reasonable one. Her mother (who favors female genital mutilation) and her brother are both in charge of an Arab language news service. It would be extremely easy for Huma to pass along information to them to which she would have no right to possess, nor certainly would her family members.

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Does Trump need a reasonable cause for dismissing Comey?

It would have been more polite, of course, to do it in person.

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

@featheredsprite to recall if it was customary to change FBI heads upon change of admin. Then I researched and discovered- why is it always he case?- that bill clinton fired the FBI director when he took office. Now papers are reporting it was the first time it was done. How absolutely predictable. I've been telling people for years that when you remain silent you only allow things to get worse. Watergate pardon, Iran Contra (and other sundry Reagan scandals), Paula Jones, the Iraq war, the great wall street robbery and too big to jail. And now the comfortable class is riled because trump is too coarse to represent them. Viva La McResistance!

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Remember when the Democratic Establishment was up in arms because Comey wasn't being fired?

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They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore

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@Johnny Q
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The reason is very simple. Americans now have the attention span of a goldfish.

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Alligator Ed's picture

@CB @CB One study about a decade ago showed that EEG monitoring of TV viewers when watching programs (not commercials) have an EEG pattern identical to sleep tracings.

Furthermore, as a hungry alligator, my attention span continues until I have my next meal. Hillary Klinton is my next meal, so although I may have a long fast, I will stay vigilant.

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@Alligator Ed
with a pH of less than 2, but, we're talking about chewing on and swallowing Hillary's crap here. You may want to first stuff her in an underwater hole for a month or two in order to tenderize the old stringy bird so she is more palatable.

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@CB

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Phoebe Loosinhouse's picture

blowing up simultaneously. Both candidates of both major parties were both under a cloud of FBI investigation while running for the Presidency! That's pretty damn pathetic.

And then there's the DNC fraud suit, and the Republicans not having the guts to remove Trump from their primaries when he richly deserved it any number of times and now Republicans are attempting to kill Americans by taking their health coverage and taking 600 billion from Medicaid and absorbing that into their 800 billion tax cut which benefits the 1% all out of proportion.

So we're stuck with these two loser parties, and their loser power structures and their loser leaders for the indefinite future? I simply don't believe that people are resigning themselves to more decades of this continued BS.

Trump, Comey, Republicans, Democrats, they are ALL past their sell-by dates. WE need a new Party and new faces and new agendas and we need it now.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

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@Phoebe Loosinhouse

Republicans not having the guts to remove Trump from their primaries when he richly deserved it

And replace him with who? Scott Walker? Ted Cruz? Marco Rubio? Jeb!? Ben Carson? If there was one decent candidate, I am at a loss to remember one.

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Comey's July hearing was a complete travesty.

His perversion of the basic law of criminal intent in exonerating Hillary was unworthy of a 1st year C law student let alone the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.

Comey was an unethical hack who needed to go.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

@Not Henry Kissinger the arguments i had with people over this. It was really frsutrating trying to explain basic criminal law when the opposition would (understandably) point to Comey's words. Those committed to a position would never even entertain my argument.

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Alligator Ed's picture

@orestes Smile

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He thought firing Comey was very extra-ordinary. If Trump appoints a total lackey hack, then even gopers will revolt--FBI must look neutral. Watergate was mentioned--Greenwald thought there would have to be criminal collusion shown between Trump campaign and Russians to force Trump out.

My take which has some serious implications. There will be no collusion found as there was none. I read the original reports on hacks and they were utterly factless crap. All the accusations are either by anon sources or have been proven to be shaky or false. Even the English James Bond guy finally said that all the accusations in his "dossier" were unverified.

What this might mean is that Trump may be making a move to gain control of the leaks against him as now he controls the FBI. Also, looks like the Deep State had a free run at him, and now has he learned to play the game? In which case he has control over a serious part of the Deep State, and with that I would expect first some payback which may mean the people who leaked that he was in league with Russians.

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Alligator Ed's picture

@MrWebster I thought leaks had to do with truth-telling unwanted by the PTB.

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Comey knocked down Trump’s assertion on Twitter that Barack Obama had “wire tapped” him. “We do not have any information that supports those tweets,” Comey said.

from The Guardian

I winced when Comey said that, thinking "he is calling Trump a liar, right there in the Senate and Trump will not stand for it."

I am not negating anything you have stated, I am just adding to it. I think the reason for the firing is more recent that the one the Trump admin is offering because the firing was so sudden. It appears to be something coming from the wounded ego of the narcissist fake President.

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To thine own self be true.

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@MarilynW
He was a goner after he as much as called Trump a liar publically. I knew his days were numbered.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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go back 6 months ago.

I think what’s even more amazing is the rationale that they concocted in order to justify this, because, of course, they needed to come up with a reason beyond "We’re firing Comey because we’re concerned about the investigation aimed at Trump." So, for them to raise these criticisms of Comey, that were actually widespread, including among many Democrats—six months ago, when it actually happened; namely, that Comey took it upon himself to make the decision about terminating Hillary Clinton’s criminal investigation because he thought Loretta Lynch couldn’t do it, and even more so that Comey stood up and didn’t just say, "We’re ending the investigation," but said, "Here are all the reasons why Hillary Clinton did awful things"—to pretend that that’s what offends them, it’s such an insult to everyone’s intelligence that it raises the real question about what is the actual reason.

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/5/10/glenn_greenwald_on_trumps_shockin...

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@MarilynW

"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau."

There is nothing subtle about this sentence which refute the charge that Trump fired Comey to derail the pending investigation into his possible collusion with Russia, because Trump knew already that Sessions recused himself from this matter and that there were bipartisan desires for an independent prosecutor to administer the collusion charges.

Comey was a disgrace, regardless of party affiliation. He should have passed the information about Clinton's email fiasco to craven Loretta Lynch, putting her on the spot if she denied an indictment. The indictment was never going to be approved by the Obama administration. Comey, in a sense, fell upon his sword with his ridiculous "no reasonable prosecutor" mantra. He could have preserved the FBI's reputation and his own career had he done exactly what his job duty required him to do: report findings to Lynch and not act as both investigator and prosecutor.

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orlbucfan's picture

that PBO never got rid of in 8 years. The Washington State radiation leak is more important than this nonsense. Only way to get rid of tRump is through both houses of Congress, and the corporate captured "Fourth Estate." Ain't happening. Rec'd!!

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

Strife Delivery's picture

1) Comey firing is such a mess. Love him, hate him, love him again, hate him again? Never ends with the dude.

2) Don't feel like anything will happen to Clinton or her group. I mean jeez, Huma having Weiner printing out those emails? Yeah good luck having a low aide being able to get away with that. Goes to show the two-tier justice system.

3) And now the Russians are back!! Cue the Red Army Choir. Sadly people so easily gobble up the mainstream garbage. Trump's actual reasons? No idea. People here have a lot of various speculations, some conflicting.

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Big Al's picture

Nothing.

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@Big Al
to the possibility of impeachment.

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@MarilynW and more vociferously screaming for impeachment, then you are correct. The Democrats have no hope for impeachment other than the Emoluments clause of the Constitution. If they go with Russia-treason, they don't stand a chance of succeeding.

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