Not a huge fan of Ellison, but the differences between Ellison and Perez were staggering (especially in regards to corporate money), and we know that Clintonites don't actually want a 50 state strategy. A Pelosi-Schumer-Perez leadership team is exactly what the Republicans would hope for. This is a giant middle finger to all the Bernie supporters that remained Democrats thinking they could work within the system (and hopefully will cause many of them to leave the party after yet another betrayal).
@Dhyerwolf
the death spiral for the Democrats continues. By 2020 they will be dead.
Not a huge fan of Ellison, but the differences between Ellison and Perez were staggering (especially in regards to corporate money), and we know that Clintonites don't actually want a 50 state strategy. A Pelosi-Schumer-Perez leadership team is exactly what the Republicans would hope for. This is a giant middle finger to all the Bernie supporters that remained Democrats thinking they could work within the system (and hopefully will cause many of them to leave the party after yet another betrayal).
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@Steven D
but I think past history has shown that these hideous parties can last far beyond their expiration date. Corporate money and foolish partisans might keep the zombie Democratic Party running for much longer than it should. I'll certainly be encouraging DemEnterers and people who never left the party in the first place to reconsider opting out.
#1 the death spiral for the Democrats continues. By 2020 they will be dead.
@Dhyerwolf
The Democratic Party just "Rubber Stamped" a second term for Donald Trump...
Unless of course a viable Progressive Third Party forms Trump will have 2 terms, this is exactly what the Republicans were hoping for...
The duopoly continues with the Democratic Party subservient to the Republicans...
Not a huge fan of Ellison, but the differences between Ellison and Perez were staggering (especially in regards to corporate money), and we know that Clintonites don't actually want a 50 state strategy. A Pelosi-Schumer-Perez leadership team is exactly what the Republicans would hope for. This is a giant middle finger to all the Bernie supporters that remained Democrats thinking they could work within the system (and hopefully will cause many of them to leave the party after yet another betrayal).
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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
The same folks that can counter order the Air Force to bomb in Syria over the orders of the Commander in Chief, and wipe out a peace agreement...
How exactly does that fall within our Constitution?
Not that the old piece of wrinkled paper has any value what so ever...
There needs to be a perp walk throughout many government office buildings in DC, & Langley, and treason trials...
#1.2 they're relying on the CIA and the press to get rid of Trump.
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I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
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Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Not a huge fan of Ellison, but the differences between Ellison and Perez were staggering (especially in regards to corporate money), and we know that Clintonites don't actually want a 50 state strategy. A Pelosi-Schumer-Perez leadership team is exactly what the Republicans would hope for. This is a giant middle finger to all the Bernie supporters that remained Democrats thinking they could work within the system (and hopefully will cause many of them to leave the party after yet another betrayal).
Whatever you do, don't resign your seat to stooge for the Clintonistas. If you are smart, you won't take vice chairman (you'll probably get put in charge of refreshments).
@TJ
Let Perez lose his seat, in fact insist on it! For the refreshments I suggest hemlock...
Whatever you do, don't resign your seat to stooge for the Clintonistas. If you are smart, you won't take vice chairman (you'll probably get put in charge of refreshments).
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Perez nominated him in a voice vote and it appears to have been a unanimous yes. Then Perez and Ellison hugged on stage.
So glad this is over and can no longer be exploited by Greenwald and other trolls in attempts to divide us!
Whatever you do, don't resign your seat to stooge for the Clintonistas. If you are smart, you won't take vice chairman (you'll probably get put in charge of refreshments).
Perez nominated him in a voice vote and it appears to have been a unanimous yes. Then Perez and Ellison hugged on stage.
So glad this is over and can no longer be exploited by Greenwald and other trolls in attempts to divide us!
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#2.2 All is well in the Bubble Boy's world..
Another Fuck You to the Berners and We All Unite Together Against Trump...
Hillary for President 2020...
Because...
Well...
She won the popular vote...
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George W. Bush
there were no honest brokers in that race. And isn't that touching that Perez made Ellison his 'Deputy' or whatever? They're both going to stalk what Dims are left for the Clinton creature.
Why DNC chair candidates attended a private donor retreat instead of the Women's March
The Washington Free Beacon first reported Saturday that only one candidate for chair of the Democratic National Committee — South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg — attended a march.
The rest? They were at a retreat in Florida dedicated to the future of the party, hosted by Democratic activist David Brock for top donors and party members. To some critics, it was more evidence of how the party's leadership has shunned its grassroots in favor of its donors.
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Others like Perez did not participate in the full retreat. The former labor secretary flew in for the on-the-record portion and left shortly after, offering praise for the marchers.
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Business Insider also learned that Rep. Keith Ellison, a frontrunner for the job considered close to many grassroots activists in the party, previously scheduled a meeting with a group of DNC members and activists in Florida before Brock invited the DNC candidates to the forum. Ellison left for the private meeting shortly after appearing at Brock's forum.
there were no honest brokers in that race. And isn't that touching that Perez made Ellison his 'Deputy' or whatever? They're both going to stalk what Dims are left for the Clinton creature.
Why DNC chair candidates attended a private donor retreat instead of the Women's March
The Washington Free Beacon first reported Saturday that only one candidate for chair of the Democratic National Committee — South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg — attended a march.
The rest? They were at a retreat in Florida dedicated to the future of the party, hosted by Democratic activist David Brock for top donors and party members. To some critics, it was more evidence of how the party's leadership has shunned its grassroots in favor of its donors.
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Others like Perez did not participate in the full retreat. The former labor secretary flew in for the on-the-record portion and left shortly after, offering praise for the marchers.
*
Business Insider also learned that Rep. Keith Ellison, a frontrunner for the job considered close to many grassroots activists in the party, previously scheduled a meeting with a group of DNC members and activists in Florida before Brock invited the DNC candidates to the forum. Ellison left for the private meeting shortly after appearing at Brock's forum.
It was nothing more than a smug Fuck You to those who would dare to challenge Her dominion over the future of Her Party. Her thanks to 'Donna' was the exclamation point. It was presented in a very infomercial style, selling the same shit sandwich they've been hawking for 25+ years now.
Keith Ellison has dutifully agreed to play Court Jester by accepting Vice Chair by acclamation. Hey, at least its not a Tim Kaine clone.
This is power politics at its finest. Power begets power. They were NEVER going to go away gracefully. They were NEVER going to hand the Keys to Keith.
@jobu
Keith Ellison was not appointed Vice Chair, which is an actual position created by the DNC Charter. Perez named him "Deputy Chair", whatever the heck that means. There is nothing in the DNC Charter or By-Laws about a "Deputy Chair" position.
Hence, the video.
It was nothing more than a smug Fuck You to those who would dare to challenge Her dominion over the future of Her Party. Her thanks to 'Donna' was the exclamation point. It was presented in a very infomercial style, selling the same shit sandwich they've been hawking for 25+ years now.
Keith Ellison has dutifully agreed to play Court Jester by accepting Vice Chair by acclamation. Hey, at least its not a Tim Kaine clone.
This is power politics at its finest. Power begets power. They were NEVER going to go away gracefully. They were NEVER going to hand the Keys to Keith.
If Perez were to accidentally step in front of an Amtrak express tomorrow, the Democrats sill would not elevate Ellison to chair. I doubt they let him take orders for take-out at meetings.
have to do the work, be patient, and not give up. The Democratic Party turned Demo-Crap-tic during the curse of Raygun. One thing that won't stop is climate change. These corporate fossils like $hrill, Pelosi, Bubba, Schumer, McCaskill, etc., ad nauseam aren't going to destroy the bribery feeding trough. Why should they? They can't see beyond their little greedballed eyes. I would love to see a true new party created before I croak. I'm skeptical about the Greens though. Rec'd!!
their first mistake is not tapping somebody who understands the problems that face the currently constructed Democratic party and is willing to confront them. Which is exactly why they should have gone to Thomas Frank (my choice, but if not Frank, then someone like him) and said "We know that you aren't seeking this job, but will you please help us save what's left of America?"
Of course they would need to do the unthinkable (for them, at least) and let him run the show with no interference from the Clintons, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Pelosi, et al. This would be a small step towards returning the government to its citizens.
They've shown that they have no interest in reviving the Democratic party and making it the people's party that it was 80 years ago. Chairman Perez? More like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz 2.0. Guys and gals, as of today, the Democratic party is D.O.A. Oh, Trump and the Repubs could fuck up as badly as Bush and the Repubs did after the 2004 general election which allowed the Dems to come roaring back to take Congress in 2006 and add the White House in 2008. Well, we did get more Dems. Better? Ha, you're kidding, right? I bet the kool kidz at TOP are loving Perez almost as much as Hillary's "I'm Back In The Game!" video.
As the late, great Merle Haggard sang "Are The Good Times Really Over for Good?"
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Despite the efforts of the other nine candidates who sought the office, the only ones anybody gave a chance to were Ellison and Perez. On issues related to the DNC’s tasks, the two men’s views were extremely close. But their campaigns for the post were widely viewed by most observers as a contest between the more centrist establishment wing of the party represented by Perez and the liberal wing represented by Ellison. But there was a fair amount of cross-over voting.
No room for activists like @NinaTurner. A small corporate party is the future. Party reform is a slippery slope to winning. Perez gets it. https://t.co/vsqbIDzaiH
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#12.1 Then boasted that this is great news for Republicans. I don't disagree.
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"By selecting a D.C. insider, Democrats only create deeper divisions within their own party by pushing a far left agenda that rejects a majority of their base outside Washington," said chairwoman Ronna McDaniel.
"The DNC would be well-served to learn from two straight election cycle losses, encourage the leaders in their party to listen to what the voters want, and get to work with Republicans to fix the mess they created."
"Far left agenda" LOL
#12.1 Then boasted that this is great news for Republicans. I don't disagree.
"By selecting a D.C. insider, Democrats only create deeper divisions within their own party by pushing a far left agenda that rejects a majority of their base outside Washington," said chairwoman Ronna McDaniel.
"The DNC would be well-served to learn from two straight election cycle losses, encourage the leaders in their party to listen to what the voters want, and get to work with Republicans to fix the mess they created."
"Far left agenda" LOL
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@gjohnsit
or change anything that they have been doing for decades or especially since the Clintons created the third way of triangulation.
If they were trying to "learn their lessons after the disastrous midterm elections and Hillary losing to Trump of all people then they wouldn't have stayed with Pelosi and Schumer. And if they had been upset after the midterms they would have fired DWS and put someone else in place that would have gotten better results.
But if DWS wasn't in her position as head of the DNC she couldn't have done everything she could to make sure that Hillary won the primary.
"The DNC would be well-served to learn from two straight election cycle losses, encourage the leaders in their party to listen to what the voters want, and get to work with Republicans to fix the mess they created."
"By selecting a D.C. insider, Democrats only create deeper divisions within their own party by pushing a far left agenda that rejects a majority of their base outside Washington," said chairwoman Ronna McDaniel.
"The DNC would be well-served to learn from two straight election cycle losses, encourage the leaders in their party to listen to what the voters want, and get to work with Republicans to fix the mess they created."
@GreatLakeSailor
So yeah how is the Ol' Bern going to react here.
Will he praise corporate TPP Perez? You know, everything he campaigned against?
The country is ripe for a 3rd party and the Bern just doesn't have the courage to do it. 30 years of being an independent and his chance is now, but won't take it. Quite sad honestly.
$27 to BNC
$27 to DraftBernie
(second one contingent on Bernie actually starting a party - which I'm guessing he won't, so why not?)
@Strife Delivery
while congratulating Perez, saying that it is imperative that Tom understands that the same-old, same-old is not working and that we must open the doors of the party to working people and young people in a way that has never been done before," the lawmaker added.
I wonder where this will lead?
It was gross having to listen to reporters gush about Perez and his connections to HRC and BO.
If Bernie doesn't do the right thing now, my countdown to join the anti-berners begins now.
#16 So yeah how is the Ol' Bern going to react here.
Will he praise corporate TPP Perez? You know, everything he campaigned against?
The country is ripe for a 3rd party and the Bern just doesn't have the courage to do it. 30 years of being an independent and his chance is now, but won't take it. Quite sad honestly.
People are laying out the red carpet for him. To have him lead his OWN PARTY. You would think an independent would like that. To craft their own values and positions into a living entity such as a party.
But instead, just ho hum bleh sentences. He backed Ellison, that guy lost. Now the corporate guy is in charge. What needs to happen for Bern to leave? The reality is that the Dems can do whatever they want, and it seems that Bern will find a way to stay attached to them. Does Bernie think he has power in the Dem party? He is the sheepdog Schumer pulls out of his pocket to corral those disillusioned souls back into Schumer's pocket. Bernie has (and had) a historic moment to potentially change American politics...but is just too cowardly to do it.
Edit: To clarify, I like(d) Bernie. I voted for him in the primary. He made me feel hopeful. Watching it get closer to the end the hope died. Though, before knowing Bern was running, I was going to vote like I did in 2012: Green. So when Bern lost I moved to Green again which I did in November. It just seems that all this energy and momentum, this potential defining moment in history, served on a silver platter...utterly squandered.
#16.1 while congratulating Perez, saying that it is imperative that Tom understands that the same-old, same-old is not working and that we must open the doors of the party to working people and young people in a way that has never been done before," the lawmaker added.
I wonder where this will lead?
It was gross having to listen to reporters gush about Perez and his connections to HRC and BO.
If Bernie doesn't do the right thing now, my countdown to join the anti-berners begins now.
@Strife Delivery
he will not go against the democrats. Ever. He made a deal with them after he lost his first run for congress that was something like he would caucus and vote with them and they wouldn't allow anyone to run as a democrat against him.
I wish I had the link to the article where I read that.
But that's another reason why he didn't run 3rd party after he lost to Hillary.
People are laying out the red carpet for him. To have him lead his OWN PARTY. You would think an independent would like that. To craft their own values and positions into a living entity such as a party.
But instead, just ho hum bleh sentences. He backed Ellison, that guy lost. Now the corporate guy is in charge. What needs to happen for Bern to leave? The reality is that the Dems can do whatever they want, and it seems that Bern will find a way to stay attached to them. Does Bernie think he has power in the Dem party? He is the sheepdog Schumer pulls out of his pocket to corral those disillusioned souls back into Schumer's pocket. Bernie has (and had) a historic moment to potentially change American politics...but is just too cowardly to do it.
Edit: To clarify, I like(d) Bernie. I voted for him in the primary. He made me feel hopeful. Watching it get closer to the end the hope died. Though, before knowing Bern was running, I was going to vote like I did in 2012: Green. So when Bern lost I moved to Green again which I did in November. It just seems that all this energy and momentum, this potential defining moment in history, served on a silver platter...utterly squandered.
The Dems are too stupid/afraid to even take the figleaf of a co-opted, comprised progressive as DNC chair.
The ratio of humour to anger in responses around the web give me the view that DemExit will accelerate towards success. Be interesting to see how the JusticeDems, Our Revolution and DraftBernie folks act in the next week. Will also be keeping an eye on the recent Berniecrat take over of the CA state Dem party, see if it amounts to anything or if they start leaving.
2017 is going to be a very interesting year. The Northern Ireland election next week will be the opening shot in the re-unification process, there's a perfect storm of conditions that brought the powersharing govt down that could deal a hammer blow to Unionism and may put Sinn Fein in as First Minister. Maybe. Either way, it is the opening salvo in the re-unification game which Brexit has triggered - my prediction is 5 years to a border poll in favour of re-unification. Just waiting on May to trigger Article 50 next month.
@gendjinn
Any Twitter folk here? Curious to see if Demexit increased or not. Twitter isn't my jam so I don't follow that scene.
The Dems are too stupid/afraid to even take the figleaf of a co-opted, comprised progressive as DNC chair.
The ratio of humour to anger in responses around the web give me the view that DemExit will accelerate towards success. Be interesting to see how the JusticeDems, Our Revolution and DraftBernie folks act in the next week. Will also be keeping an eye on the recent Berniecrat take over of the CA state Dem party, see if it amounts to anything or if they start leaving.
2017 is going to be a very interesting year. The Northern Ireland election next week will be the opening shot in the re-unification process, there's a perfect storm of conditions that brought the powersharing govt down that could deal a hammer blow to Unionism and may put Sinn Fein in as First Minister. Maybe. Either way, it is the opening salvo in the re-unification game which Brexit has triggered - my prediction is 5 years to a border poll in favour of re-unification. Just waiting on May to trigger Article 50 next month.
the vote to make it seem close, just like the Amash Conyers vote.1 They want us to believe that the DNC is almost evenly divided between Third Way and liberals. HA! If you believe that, I have a stunning bridge in which I'd like to try to interest you. Not only is it visually stunning, but it's really a great moneymaker, too. You'll get rich within six months, I promise. (By the time six months elapse, your money and me will be long gone. Sorry!)
1 Well, not just like the Amash Conyers vote. That took some figuring. Who had no chance to win the next election anyway, whose seats were safest, no matter how they voted, etc. You don't get to be Speaker of the House, Majority Leader or Minority Leader without knowing how to figure out these things, including conferring with your counterpart from the other big party. I think Amash Conyers was especially difficult because Republicans were likely to tick off their libertarian wing, while Democrats were likely to tick off their non-bot wing.
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What fools
Not a huge fan of Ellison, but the differences between Ellison and Perez were staggering (especially in regards to corporate money), and we know that Clintonites don't actually want a 50 state strategy. A Pelosi-Schumer-Perez leadership team is exactly what the Republicans would hope for. This is a giant middle finger to all the Bernie supporters that remained Democrats thinking they could work within the system (and hopefully will cause many of them to leave the party after yet another betrayal).
Well
the death spiral for the Democrats continues. By 2020 they will be dead.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
I hope so as well
but I think past history has shown that these hideous parties can last far beyond their expiration date. Corporate money and foolish partisans might keep the zombie Democratic Party running for much longer than it should. I'll certainly be encouraging DemEnterers and people who never left the party in the first place to reconsider opting out.
Yes, In Going For The Corporate Money Strategy...
The Democratic Party just "Rubber Stamped" a second term for Donald Trump...
Unless of course a viable Progressive Third Party forms Trump will have 2 terms, this is exactly what the Republicans were hoping for...
The duopoly continues with the Democratic Party subservient to the Republicans...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
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@Oldest Son Of A Sailor they're relying on the
they're relying on the CIA and the press to get rid of Trump.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Right! The Shadow Government...
The same folks that can counter order the Air Force to bomb in Syria over the orders of the Commander in Chief, and wipe out a peace agreement...
How exactly does that fall within our Constitution?
Not that the old piece of wrinkled paper has any value what so ever...
There needs to be a perp walk throughout many government office buildings in DC, & Langley, and treason trials...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Perez is the right candidate...
...to appeal to the new Democratic base - Romney voters.
Memo to Ellison
Whatever you do, don't resign your seat to stooge for the Clintonistas. If you are smart, you won't take vice chairman (you'll probably get put in charge of refreshments).
Exactly! Ellison you didn't get the chair keep your house seat!
Let Perez lose his seat, in fact insist on it! For the refreshments I suggest hemlock...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
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From TOP
the REAL enemy
Oh Good!
All is well in the Bubble Boy's world..
Another Fuck You to the Berners and We All Unite Together Against Trump...
Hillary for President 2020...
Because...
Well...
She won the popular vote...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
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the problem last time
is that democrats didn't come together and embrace the suck. Democrats won't make that mistake next time
@Oldest Son Of A Sailor That is priceless!!!
That is priceless!!!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
It DOES NOT matter which one got the 'top' position
there were no honest brokers in that race. And isn't that touching that Perez made Ellison his 'Deputy' or whatever? They're both going to stalk what Dims are left for the Clinton creature.
For those who don't like Business Insider as a source here's this:
Their throwing that bone at Sanders is such a cynical ploy considering that they're ALL sucking off the Clinton/Brock teat. Including Sanders.
EDIT: Put in some bold highlights.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Perez is a great pick!
...for maintaining the corrupt establishment.
*sigh* And how many tools are fooled by this attempt to
pretend they've cleaned up the DNC?
It's sure nice of Ellison to provide 'cover' for cheats and liars though.
What pandering message will Sanders tweet about his guy being 'adopted' as Vice whatever?
EDIT: and/as
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
This reeks of the Clintons
So much narcissistic disconnect.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Obama too
They both have way too much to lo$e.
Hurray!
Nancy and I were starting to worry that there would be change.
She had the whip count
Hence, the video.
It was nothing more than a smug Fuck You to those who would dare to challenge Her dominion over the future of Her Party. Her thanks to 'Donna' was the exclamation point. It was presented in a very infomercial style, selling the same shit sandwich they've been hawking for 25+ years now.
Keith Ellison has dutifully agreed to play Court Jester by accepting Vice Chair by acclamation. Hey, at least its not a Tim Kaine clone.
This is power politics at its finest. Power begets power. They were NEVER going to go away gracefully. They were NEVER going to hand the Keys to Keith.
[video:https://youtu.be/-UyM6jJzuVw]
Not Vice Chair
Keith Ellison was not appointed Vice Chair, which is an actual position created by the DNC Charter. Perez named him "Deputy Chair", whatever the heck that means. There is nothing in the DNC Charter or By-Laws about a "Deputy Chair" position.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
Like Zed, the Dem's are dead
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lL1ypndnWA]
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Same as it ever was
If Perez were to accidentally step in front of an Amtrak express tomorrow, the Democrats sill would not elevate Ellison to chair. I doubt they let him take orders for take-out at meetings.
If we really want CHANGE, we're going to
have to do the work, be patient, and not give up. The Democratic Party turned Demo-Crap-tic during the curse of Raygun. One thing that won't stop is climate change. These corporate fossils like $hrill, Pelosi, Bubba, Schumer, McCaskill, etc., ad nauseam aren't going to destroy the bribery feeding trough. Why should they? They can't see beyond their little greedballed eyes. I would love to see a true new party created before I croak. I'm skeptical about the Greens though. Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
I've said it before and again today,
their first mistake is not tapping somebody who understands the problems that face the currently constructed Democratic party and is willing to confront them. Which is exactly why they should have gone to Thomas Frank (my choice, but if not Frank, then someone like him) and said "We know that you aren't seeking this job, but will you please help us save what's left of America?"
Of course they would need to do the unthinkable (for them, at least) and let him run the show with no interference from the Clintons, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Pelosi, et al. This would be a small step towards returning the government to its citizens.
They've shown that they have no interest in reviving the Democratic party and making it the people's party that it was 80 years ago. Chairman Perez? More like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz 2.0. Guys and gals, as of today, the Democratic party is D.O.A. Oh, Trump and the Repubs could fuck up as badly as Bush and the Repubs did after the 2004 general election which allowed the Dems to come roaring back to take Congress in 2006 and add the White House in 2008. Well, we did get more Dems. Better? Ha, you're kidding, right? I bet the kool kidz at TOP are loving Perez almost as much as Hillary's "I'm Back In The Game!" video.
As the late, great Merle Haggard sang "Are The Good Times Really Over for Good?"
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Did I read this right?
Does Markos actually get it?
The Hillary/Obama coalition IS the Democratic Party.
From Meteor Blades
link
You might have been reading the wrong Twitter feed....
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
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Whether we like it or not
We're on our own:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwSRqaZGsPw]
Beware the bullshit factories.
Is our Democrats learning?
...
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Republicans must be laughing their asses off
Too true....
But hey, at least Ellison gets to be Chair of Vice. All he needs is a Trans Am, and he's set.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Trump congratulations Perez over Twitter
Then boasted that this is great news for Republicans. I don't disagree.
Right! And He Wasn't Lying...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
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RNC pulls no punches
link
"Far left agenda" LOL
It helps those in the Bubble World believe they are Right...
Yep the Turd Way NeoLiberal Clintonistas pushing their Far Left Agenda divided the party so all the Progressive Berners Left...
Lets wrap or beady little brains around that for a minute...
Oh wait...
It was intended for DKos readers...
Sorry for the confusion... LOL
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
The problem here is that they don't want to fix it
or change anything that they have been doing for decades or especially since the Clintons created the third way of triangulation.
If they were trying to "learn their lessons after the disastrous midterm elections and Hillary losing to Trump of all people then they wouldn't have stayed with Pelosi and Schumer. And if they had been upset after the midterms they would have fired DWS and put someone else in place that would have gotten better results.
But if DWS wasn't in her position as head of the DNC she couldn't have done everything she could to make sure that Hillary won the primary.
The Democratic Party is a
The Democratic Party is a fucking joke.
Warren Beatty said it 20 years ago in "Bulworth" -
"Are you saying that the Democratic Party don't care about the African American community?"
"Isn't that obvious??"
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA62refAB2w]
FRightwingnuts are loving this stuff.
Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Limousine Liberals Run That Dog and Pony Show
It's time we built our own damn tent.
The real SparkyGump has passed. It was an honor being your human.
This cost me 54 bucks!
$27 to BNC
$27 to DraftBernie
(second one contingent on Bernie actually starting a party - which I'm guessing he won't, so why not?)
Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.
Speaking of such
So yeah how is the Ol' Bern going to react here.
Will he praise corporate TPP Perez? You know, everything he campaigned against?
The country is ripe for a 3rd party and the Bern just doesn't have the courage to do it. 30 years of being an independent and his chance is now, but won't take it. Quite sad honestly.
Well, he is staying on message
while congratulating Perez, saying that it is imperative that Tom understands that the same-old, same-old is not working and that we must open the doors of the party to working people and young people in a way that has never been done before," the lawmaker added.
I wonder where this will lead?
It was gross having to listen to reporters gush about Perez and his connections to HRC and BO.
If Bernie doesn't do the right thing now, my countdown to join the anti-berners begins now.
dfarrah
He won't
That's the thing... he won't.
People are laying out the red carpet for him. To have him lead his OWN PARTY. You would think an independent would like that. To craft their own values and positions into a living entity such as a party.
But instead, just ho hum bleh sentences. He backed Ellison, that guy lost. Now the corporate guy is in charge. What needs to happen for Bern to leave? The reality is that the Dems can do whatever they want, and it seems that Bern will find a way to stay attached to them. Does Bernie think he has power in the Dem party? He is the sheepdog Schumer pulls out of his pocket to corral those disillusioned souls back into Schumer's pocket. Bernie has (and had) a historic moment to potentially change American politics...but is just too cowardly to do it.
Edit: To clarify, I like(d) Bernie. I voted for him in the primary. He made me feel hopeful. Watching it get closer to the end the hope died. Though, before knowing Bern was running, I was going to vote like I did in 2012: Green. So when Bern lost I moved to Green again which I did in November. It just seems that all this energy and momentum, this potential defining moment in history, served on a silver platter...utterly squandered.
Until Bernie is willing to lose his seat
he will not go against the democrats. Ever. He made a deal with them after he lost his first run for congress that was something like he would caucus and vote with them and they wouldn't allow anyone to run as a democrat against him.
I wish I had the link to the article where I read that.
But that's another reason why he didn't run 3rd party after he lost to Hillary.
OMG I feel quite delirious with joy....
The Dems are too stupid/afraid to even take the figleaf of a co-opted, comprised progressive as DNC chair.
The ratio of humour to anger in responses around the web give me the view that DemExit will accelerate towards success. Be interesting to see how the JusticeDems, Our Revolution and DraftBernie folks act in the next week. Will also be keeping an eye on the recent Berniecrat take over of the CA state Dem party, see if it amounts to anything or if they start leaving.
2017 is going to be a very interesting year. The Northern Ireland election next week will be the opening shot in the re-unification process, there's a perfect storm of conditions that brought the powersharing govt down that could deal a hammer blow to Unionism and may put Sinn Fein in as First Minister. Maybe. Either way, it is the opening salvo in the re-unification game which Brexit has triggered - my prediction is 5 years to a border poll in favour of re-unification. Just waiting on May to trigger Article 50 next month.
Twitter folk?
Any Twitter folk here? Curious to see if Demexit increased or not. Twitter isn't my jam so I don't follow that scene.
WTF ...
@eState4Column5
Not a surprise. But, at least they took the trouble to kabuki
the vote to make it seem close, just like the Amash Conyers vote.1 They want us to believe that the DNC is almost evenly divided between Third Way and liberals. HA! If you believe that, I have a stunning bridge in which I'd like to try to interest you. Not only is it visually stunning, but it's really a great moneymaker, too. You'll get rich within six months, I promise. (By the time six months elapse, your money and me will be long gone. Sorry!)
1 Well, not just like the Amash Conyers vote. That took some figuring. Who had no chance to win the next election anyway, whose seats were safest, no matter how they voted, etc. You don't get to be Speaker of the House, Majority Leader or Minority Leader without knowing how to figure out these things, including conferring with your counterpart from the other big party. I think Amash Conyers was especially difficult because Republicans were likely to tick off their libertarian wing, while Democrats were likely to tick off their non-bot wing.
Amendment to end mass collection of information (in violation of the Fourth Amendment) under the Patriot Act. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2013/h412
Missed the Bill of Rights by a cushion of just a few votes.