@thanatokephaloides
if I make a Hitler comparison. It's an easy thing to do and done too often. But lately it was hard not thinking about it.

#1.1

I will pull more Goodwins than I can shake a stick at. Ban me.

They're "Godwins". Named after Counselor Mike Godwin.

And hereabouts, "Godwin's Law" isn't a law. If the shoe fits, folks hereabouts are encouraged to make it be worn. This isn't the Daily Kos "safe space"; we have real discussions here.

With Herr Drumpf in the Oval Office, it's getting time to retire Godwin's Law anyway. At 58, I'm of the same generation as Mike Godwin. (He's a 1956 model; I'm a 1958.) When we were growing up, we didn't need to consider whether or not someone was a fascist; we had people all around us, the folks who fought World War II on the ground, who had actually handled real fascists themselves, who told us. But today, that generation is practically extinct. We need to have those discussions now. We owe it to those who swore "Never Again!" after defeating fascism on our behalf.

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In fact, I may do an essay about it, even though the whole thing could barely be sillier.

#1.1

I will pull more Goodwins than I can shake a stick at. Ban me.

They're "Godwins". Named after Counselor Mike Godwin.

And hereabouts, "Godwin's Law" isn't a law. If the shoe fits, folks hereabouts are encouraged to make it be worn. This isn't the Daily Kos "safe space"; we have real discussions here.

With Herr Drumpf in the Oval Office, it's getting time to retire Godwin's Law anyway. At 58, I'm of the same generation as Mike Godwin. (He's a 1956 model; I'm a 1958.) When we were growing up, we didn't need to consider whether or not someone was a fascist; we had people all around us, the folks who fought World War II on the ground, who had actually handled real fascists themselves, who told us. But today, that generation is practically extinct. We need to have those discussions now. We owe it to those who swore "Never Again!" after defeating fascism on our behalf.

@ghotiphaze In other words, the Dem plan is to attempt to continue the Two-Party Trade-Off Greater/Lesser Evil excuse for nothing ever being done for the people for whom government exists and this impasse supposedly being why The People are perpetually and increasingly poisoned-for-profit, propagandized and impoverished to further enrich those already having most of everything.

I think that's got a bit old for those whose backs have already been driven to the wall and must now fight for their lives, having little else remaining, now that the last of their lunch money is to be forever stolen to fatten the already Fat Cats.

#3.1 a sizeable proportion of his cabinet are illegal voters, as in registered in more than one state. Actually I've come across several Republicans with the view since they own property in more than one state, thus paying taxes there, they're entitled to vote in those states. By that criteria, as I pass through Birmingham and stop for a tank of gas and a candy bar, I should vote in Alabama elections.
I do disagree on the name calling bit, though. Watched a clip by Judge Jeanine, that lying, racist colostomy bag ( or as Fox calls her, that paragon of honesty and integrity), and she advocated for everyone to shut up and show Hair Drumpf the same respect Republicans showed Obama. Now, I'm not particularly a fan of B O, but I remember the respect he got. So, according to Judge J, we're required to stand in congress when Donny Tiny Hands (I generally shorten it to Andy as shorthand for needle dick) speaks and shout "Liar!" Do everything possible to make sure he accomplishes nothing, as Limbaugh said that was the patriotic thing to do. Make damn sure he is a one term president a la McConnell. Take him to task on the tarmac with plenty of chest poking. Constant grid lock in congress 'investigating' everything he tries to accomplish scores of times. And, dammit, I wanna see his birth certificate, long form, non photo shopped edition. Y'know he HAS to be a Third Reich clone from a secret base in Argentina (it's fun to play the CT nutbag, but it's hard to get out of the role).

@ghotiphaze

Please drop by and vote often...cause were in a mess. Time after time voting against our own interest. Yes masta.

#3.1 a sizeable proportion of his cabinet are illegal voters, as in registered in more than one state. Actually I've come across several Republicans with the view since they own property in more than one state, thus paying taxes there, they're entitled to vote in those states. By that criteria, as I pass through Birmingham and stop for a tank of gas and a candy bar, I should vote in Alabama elections.
I do disagree on the name calling bit, though. Watched a clip by Judge Jeanine, that lying, racist colostomy bag ( or as Fox calls her, that paragon of honesty and integrity), and she advocated for everyone to shut up and show Hair Drumpf the same respect Republicans showed Obama. Now, I'm not particularly a fan of B O, but I remember the respect he got. So, according to Judge J, we're required to stand in congress when Donny Tiny Hands (I generally shorten it to Andy as shorthand for needle dick) speaks and shout "Liar!" Do everything possible to make sure he accomplishes nothing, as Limbaugh said that was the patriotic thing to do. Make damn sure he is a one term president a la McConnell. Take him to task on the tarmac with plenty of chest poking. Constant grid lock in congress 'investigating' everything he tries to accomplish scores of times. And, dammit, I wanna see his birth certificate, long form, non photo shopped edition. Y'know he HAS to be a Third Reich clone from a secret base in Argentina (it's fun to play the CT nutbag, but it's hard to get out of the role).

@Citizen Of Earth I'm bemused by the hot and heavy anti-Trump reactions to the first what 5 days in office? Also suspicious of the wave of anti-Bernie sentiment now being piled on by new posters over at WOTB.

Trump was elected because he said he was going to do XYZ. Why is everyone horrified that he is doing XYZ? Im guessing that because we are so used to candidates like Obama saying one thing pre election, and doing the opposite after, we're all in shock. Trump said he would dump the TPP and he dumped the TPP on day one. Kudos! You know damn well Hillary would have never done that. He said the US would be renegotiating NAFTA, and bingo on day 2, he informs Canada that that's what's gonna happen. Kudos! Obama campaigned on renegotiating NAFTA, and he could similarly have done that without any input whatsoever from congress, and he didn't do it. He simply lied to the people like me who voted for him. Trump said he was going to get DAPL and Keystone going again, and he signed orders to do that. Boooooo! But you know Hillary would have done that too. He said he was going to put up a wall and get Mexico to pay for it, and he 's trying to do that. Booooo! (And good luck with that!) He said he was going to tighten immigration from the Middle East, and he's doing that. Booooo! But you will notice in the ABC interview, he told the interviewer that we should never have invaded Iraq, we should never have left it the mess we did, and that because of that, the Middle East is now full of people who hate us and wish us harm. Bingo! Would Hillary ever ever admit US actions caused the disastrous reactions?

The guy is a narcissistic megalomanic way over his great big head, and he should never ever have been president. Thanks for that, Hillary. And I'm hoping the law suit being prepared by the likes of Chemerinsky, Tribe, and yah! Teachout will allow Congress to impeach him. But meantime I think it's important to get a grip, not fall for the Clintonistas attempts to delegitimize him with the scary Russians and now the we-think-he's-unstable whispers, and only to act when and where he tries to injure us as individuals and as a nation. And then hit the streets.

#4.1 His executive actions are fullfilling

exactly what he said he would do on the campaign trail. He just rubberstamped KXL and DAPL pipelines yesterday. I don't need anymore convincing that he will be a Greedy Neo-Liberal Scumbag. He's a Climate denier, anti-science, will roll back every concievable corporate regulation, will bleed the taxpayers dry trying to rid the world of Evil (ISIS), ... fuck it the list is too long.

The strength of Your Faith may vary.

@Big Al I would absolutely agree with you (and I do agree that there's no point in criticizing either head of the monster unless you're criticizing the monster itself, which is the system that runs both "sides")--but I am confused by the elimination of Nuland, who is very close to the center of imperialist warmongering corruption in US politics. I would not have thought that Trump would want to eliminate her, or would be able to if he did.

It seems to me that the Deep State (MIC, bankers, oil barons) can't agree on whether or not they want nuclear armageddon right now.

#6.2 in war is practical, it's in the Pentagon war plans and you better believe Trump and his regime would be up for that when the times comes. They've said so. Trump and his regime are just as much imperialist warmongers as Clinton and her regime would have been. I've been writing about this for over a decade, so ya, I've listened to Clinton. I believe I've been more consistent than anyone at calling her a murderous war criminal. But I give Trump and his team, that wants torture, that wants the largest military ever assembled, that wants a nuclear arms race, that wants war with China, that wants regime change in Venezuela, zero slack on this.

As I've written, this supposed rapprochement with Russia is about tactics for U.S. imperialism, the danger for war is just as high as ever. The Atomic clock is now closer to midnight than it's ever been.

@CS in AZ

#6.2

Which is great news. Good riddance to the Clintons and their ilk! It's time to stop rehashing an election that was over more than two months ago. Comparing Trump to the Clintons now is pointless. Trump won, and he's the president now. And he is a delusional, dangerous, violent egomaniac.

He promised in his first speech as president, within minutes of being sworn in, to "eradicate radical Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth" -- so how does anyone imagine he's not a warmonger who is going to wage wars anywhere and everywhere? He openly advocates torture. He just called Chelsea Manning an "ungrateful TRAITOR who should never have been released from prison." With that target he just painted on her back, she will probably have to go into hiding to survive after getting out.

The president of Mexico just canceled a planned diplomatic visit because of Trump's announced plans for building a massive border wall and expecting Mexico to pay for it, and ramping up deportations. Under Trump's administration we are essentially at war with everyone, except Russia I guess, at least for the moment, but that could easily change on a dime too.

Oh but he "saved us" from the TPP? No he didn't. The TPP was not ratified by any country. Not one. At least six would have had to do so before it would have taken effect, and it wasn't even close to being accepted by any of them. There was great resistance in almost all of the countries that would have needed to ratify it. If Obama could have gotten it through the US congress, he would have. But when you have both Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosie saying no, and even $hillary forced to waffle on it, it ain't happening. Trump's order was grandstanding for his base; in reality it changed nothing.

I'm not a democrat, haven't been registered as one since 1997. I strongly oppose the neoliberalism, dishonesty, and warmongering of the Democratic Party. I despise the Clintons and their sycophants. For me, opposition to Trump has zero to do with partisan politics. It is because he's a disaster for all of us and the world. Once he's out, I will no doubt oppose his successor too. When it comes to warmongering lunatics, I oppose them all. But Trump is the one with his tiny fingers on the button right now, and he requires massive opposition. Not just from democrats but from everyone who values life on this earth.

@CS in AZ And she's planning on running to be mayor of NYC, which will put her in charge of the NYPD. As Bloomberg once called them, the world's "seventh-largest private army."

#6.2

Which is great news. Good riddance to the Clintons and their ilk! It's time to stop rehashing an election that was over more than two months ago. Comparing Trump to the Clintons now is pointless. Trump won, and he's the president now. And he is a delusional, dangerous, violent egomaniac.

He promised in his first speech as president, within minutes of being sworn in, to "eradicate radical Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth" -- so how does anyone imagine he's not a warmonger who is going to wage wars anywhere and everywhere? He openly advocates torture. He just called Chelsea Manning an "ungrateful TRAITOR who should never have been released from prison." With that target he just painted on her back, she will probably have to go into hiding to survive after getting out.

The president of Mexico just canceled a planned diplomatic visit because of Trump's announced plans for building a massive border wall and expecting Mexico to pay for it, and ramping up deportations. Under Trump's administration we are essentially at war with everyone, except Russia I guess, at least for the moment, but that could easily change on a dime too.

Oh but he "saved us" from the TPP? No he didn't. The TPP was not ratified by any country. Not one. At least six would have had to do so before it would have taken effect, and it wasn't even close to being accepted by any of them. There was great resistance in almost all of the countries that would have needed to ratify it. If Obama could have gotten it through the US congress, he would have. But when you have both Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosie saying no, and even $hillary forced to waffle on it, it ain't happening. Trump's order was grandstanding for his base; in reality it changed nothing.

I'm not a democrat, haven't been registered as one since 1997. I strongly oppose the neoliberalism, dishonesty, and warmongering of the Democratic Party. I despise the Clintons and their sycophants. For me, opposition to Trump has zero to do with partisan politics. It is because he's a disaster for all of us and the world. Once he's out, I will no doubt oppose his successor too. When it comes to warmongering lunatics, I oppose them all. But Trump is the one with his tiny fingers on the button right now, and he requires massive opposition. Not just from democrats but from everyone who values life on this earth.

@CS in AZ This is what everybody's saying, as if one's personal intentions in protest are what determines the nature of the protest. I believe that, in addition to intent, it's a good idea to look at what the results of the protest are likely to be, and who will benefit. I don't disregard intent altogether, but it's less important to me than results, and who will benefit from them.

If you think that any woman under the top 10% economic bracket is going to benefit from these marches, protests, and the "resistance" itself, I want some of what you're smoking. Or let me put it less harshly--there's a chance that in an effort to look like they give a shit, the Democrats will actually pass something good, or oppose something evil, because TRUMP! when they wouldn't pass something good or oppose something evil under Obama. There is a chance *something* good might come of this. However, given how the fucking Democrats behaved under Bush, I doubt it.

As for good things being achieved from the bottom-up by participating in a "resistance" run by highly-paid political operatives, media figures, and media companies themselves, all of whom were and are in support of Hillary Clinton and the DNC--this looks like the textbook definition of astroturf to me. In this case, astroturf similar to that of the Tea Party where actual, sincere people have gravitated into an organization and a movement run by the establishment to accomplish its aims. One of which is preventing the rise of a resistance movement NOT run by them.

Why the hell don't people turn their backs on this establishment shit and build a real protest movement, if that's what people want. If you want to protest Trump without being co-opted by Clinton, it's not enough to say that that's what you want. You have to protest Trump in a manner Clinton can't co-opt. A good way to do this is to focus on the corrupt power that fuels them both.

#6.2

Which is great news. Good riddance to the Clintons and their ilk! It's time to stop rehashing an election that was over more than two months ago. Comparing Trump to the Clintons now is pointless. Trump won, and he's the president now. And he is a delusional, dangerous, violent egomaniac.

He promised in his first speech as president, within minutes of being sworn in, to "eradicate radical Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth" -- so how does anyone imagine he's not a warmonger who is going to wage wars anywhere and everywhere? He openly advocates torture. He just called Chelsea Manning an "ungrateful TRAITOR who should never have been released from prison." With that target he just painted on her back, she will probably have to go into hiding to survive after getting out.

The president of Mexico just canceled a planned diplomatic visit because of Trump's announced plans for building a massive border wall and expecting Mexico to pay for it, and ramping up deportations. Under Trump's administration we are essentially at war with everyone, except Russia I guess, at least for the moment, but that could easily change on a dime too.

Oh but he "saved us" from the TPP? No he didn't. The TPP was not ratified by any country. Not one. At least six would have had to do so before it would have taken effect, and it wasn't even close to being accepted by any of them. There was great resistance in almost all of the countries that would have needed to ratify it. If Obama could have gotten it through the US congress, he would have. But when you have both Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosie saying no, and even $hillary forced to waffle on it, it ain't happening. Trump's order was grandstanding for his base; in reality it changed nothing.

I'm not a democrat, haven't been registered as one since 1997. I strongly oppose the neoliberalism, dishonesty, and warmongering of the Democratic Party. I despise the Clintons and their sycophants. For me, opposition to Trump has zero to do with partisan politics. It is because he's a disaster for all of us and the world. Once he's out, I will no doubt oppose his successor too. When it comes to warmongering lunatics, I oppose them all. But Trump is the one with his tiny fingers on the button right now, and he requires massive opposition. Not just from democrats but from everyone who values life on this earth.