Steinem: Hillary Is Too Good To Be President
Gloria Steinem descends from on high to inform us that Hillary was too noble, too principled, too committed to the downtrodden to be elected President:
Yet I also have to admit that, in answer to the question I’m most often asked, I hoped but never quite believed I would see a female president in my lifetime. At least, not a woman like Hillary Clinton.
If a first female president were someone like, say, Margaret Thatcher, Sarah Palin, or another woman who knew how to play the game and win, I wouldn’t have been surprised. But Hillary Clinton didn’t just play the game; she changed the rules.
Ranking second only to Hillary is the current President:
That’s why electing Barack Obama was such a crucial beginning. We were rewarded by his intellect and gift for unifying, his cool head and warm heart. I believe he will be remembered as a great president, yet he, too, was often paralyzed by corporate and religious powers that are deeply racialized and gendered, and include a male cult of guns. Sometimes I thought that, if his opponents had cancer and Obama had the cure, they wouldn’t accept it.
I found this all to be too funny to be offended, but her last paragraph pisses me off:
Luckily, real change, like a tree, grows from the bottom up, not the top down. We have Hillary, Barack and Michelle to guide us. We will not mourn, we will organize. Maybe we are about to be free.
It takes a lotta (pause) damn gall to use Joe Hill's words to eulogize Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Comments
Lol, whatever.
Steinem has a warped worldview.
Hillary Derangement Syndrome
Hillbots of the world, unite! You only have your sanity, jobs, homes, self-respect, health care, air you breathe ... to lose.
I think Steinem is the perfect spokesperson for indentity
politics and the inability to see beyond gender and race and inability to recognize political records that favor the few over the many; war over peace; profit over the biosphere; and the beggaring of the working class. LOL is an appropriate reaction - so would the throwing of a dornick.
Oxfam has estimated that the global 1% owns as much wealth as the 99% of humanity. Thanks for his(or is it His?) "intellect and gift for unifying."
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
IIRC wasn't she the same person
who was peddling the doctrine of "comparable worth" in the '80s? It was a non-starter because lacking a Politburo, no one could set or enforce such a thing.
LOL! Whatever, Gloria.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Outstanding comment, duckpin! (n/t)
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Someone, preferrably a woman,
needs to
punch her in the faceknock her off that high pedestal she sits upon.Voted for Jill, going to Hell.
Whatever, Gloria.
No, the going to hell
pronouncement came from the lips of Madeleine Albright, or Madame Not-All-That-Bright, as I like to call her.
Yes, you're right, I know that it was her that said that.
I just lump those two into the same basket (of deplorables) now. Just me personalizing it.
Admit it
You were just in it to find a boyfriend. I know I was. (PSA this is snark.)
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
Split the difference.
Let's split the difference.
Have our heroine pie her in the face. On camera. On international TV and YouTube.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Still blind...
I keep hearing what a good president Obomber was.... When I ask what did he do that impresses you - he stood up to rethug obstruction (he did?), He's black, he has great soaring rhetoric (which is only rhetorical)...Obummer Care (the insurance scam?)...
I remind them he hasn't jailed a banker, he escalated wars and droning (of even US citizens), he won't stand up for standing rock, he supervised the militarization of our police,... and on and on.
The same kind of Great president Hellery would make. Steinem lives in the 1% bubble where Obomber is great and the $hill is better. Maybe she needs to find a boyfriend like she accused Bernie supporters doing. I have no respect for the neolibs!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
He has a fantastic smile.
Based on his riffs at the White House Press Correspondents' Dinner, he is a natural at comedic timing and delivery. I especially liked his feigned outrage at Prince George's wearing pajamas when they first met.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGd7SDPhdac]
Also, he gives good speeches. Oh, you said that.
I got nothing else.
How does that
Make him different than Reagan? Reagan was good at delivering his lines too.
Where did I say he was different from Reagan?
In fairness to Reagan, though, everyone who knew him said he was great at ad libbing. I don't know if Obama is as skilled at ad libbing. On the other hand, I don't know if Reagan was as skilled as Obama at acting.
When Obama ran in 2008, a woman who had switched from Republican to Democratic in 1980 because she hated Reagan switched back after Hillary lost the primary. She said Obama was just like Reagan. I sure didn't agree in 2008, when I was an eager Obama supporter, but I'm not sure now.
They don't see it coming
but in a year's time or so, his reputation will collapse.
He's got nothing.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Whatever is right, or correct, whatever we can use as agreement.
She lost me long ago. Too much $$ and a pretty face.
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Steinem has long ago been outed
as a CIA agent; directed a small foundation for them.
She was inserted into the growing feminist movement to derail it and turn it in into a tool of corporate and elite influence. Ask yourselves, who funded her magazine, and inserted it onto drugstore magazine racks all across the country?
Mary Bennett
OMFG
I didn't know anything about this and googled to find out more. And there she was "correcting the record" for the CIA.
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Apparently, she's quite proud of the fact:
I happen to be reading a rather well known history of
the CIA right now, called Legacy of Ashes. I do plan a review when I finish, here and at Amazon.
For now, let me just say that if you are an American who still loves your country, LoA is very difficult reading. I can only manage a chapter at a time.
Mary Bennett
The CIA is liberal. Well, that explains
why Steinem thinks Hillary, queen of weathervaning, is too principled to be President.
Steinem is delusional. Starkers.
I think we all know someone else happy to defend the CIA.
While he claims he never joined, he was happy to tell us why he thought they were a really keen institution, pretty much along the same lines.
Someone else who says the CIA is cool.
I think that's spelled "Markos Moulitsas Zúniga".....
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
He's the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful...
website dictator I've ever known.
And non-violent
That was the one I choked on. Tell that to the victims of CIA torture, either directly by CIA operatives or by those trained by the CIA. When Gloria made that statement I was a hick kid in Puerto Rico and I already knew about CIA atrocities, and sophisticated her didn't know?
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
Wrong on all three, Gloria
None are so blind as those who refuse to see (especially what's right under their noses).
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I am a bit behind, do you have a link handy?
thx.
In her own words.....
Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.
missed it first time,
but now I know. brother!
thx.
How did I miss that?
I never liked steinem because she was the safe bourgeois face put on the feminist movement to steal the voices of the more radical warriors. Let's have the acceptable face of feminism comment. But I had no idea it was that much worse. I am surprised this is not known more widely.
Blow my mind!! Steinem and the CIA!?!!
Probably shouldn't be surprised, but I did not see that one coming. Tx, Nastarana!
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare
Kindly inform Ms. Steinem that I have the best and most
reasonably-priced inventory of bridges in the continental U.S.A. Real moneymakers, too! Fabulous investments, guarantied to pay for themselves in under a year. They are listed for sale exclusively with me and I don't co-broke.
I would love a few minutes to inform her why she should invest in purchasing at least one of them to, you know, diversify her portfolio. Other investors have been all over me to buy these, but I sell them only to a few discerning celebrities. My best customer is Victoria Jackson, who has bought four so far.
I'll trade you a piece of the True Cross
for a bridge. Preferably a cable bridge
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
No thanks, but I'll give you one free peek
It's beeyoooteeful
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
We can talk price, if you wish.
I must warn you, though: It's one of the newer ones, so it's not cheap.
Complete with a big underpass to live in! Or Under?
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They've got a piece at Notre Dame
Some French king traded the equivalent of a couple of $trillion for it, nearly bankrupted 'em. They bring it out every Easter and a few other days as well.
Some untruths don't die, people refuse to let them die, no matter how obvious the mistakes.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Which King?
I'll guess Louis XIV.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
It was one of the earlier Louis
The guy who built Saint Chappelle to house the artifacts (1200s maybe?). That's one of the good things that came out of it, the stained glass is amazing.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Saint Louis IX.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Authenticated how?
It's one of those untruths
that don't die. They've invested so much into it, that they can't afford to let it die.
Carbon 14 would probably discredit it.
It's like Jack buying the magic beans, except that they don't grow a magic beanstalk, so instead he makes them Holy Relics. In Jack's mind, that's better than admitting that he made a mistake.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
"That’s why electing
Barack Obama was such a crucial beginning"
"real change, like a tree, grows from the bottom up"
so obama was the bottom, and clinton was the top.
i hope we all understand the clinton campaign's version of reality here. me next, my turn.
or perhaps just a bottom/top reality. or something.
GIANT ALL-CAPS SIG
"Baby, if you're the bottom, I'm the top." Hills to Barack?
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn5dSUKpby4]
Steinem lost her voice to me
when she dissed all of us as Bernie Bros. She lost any credibility she ever had with me. Now, I see, she has made the choice to remain blind and voiceless. RIP Gloria.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Steinem is simply not relevant
She's been in bubble wrap for the past 4 decades.
She's fighting a battle for her class and generation's sake, which simply doesn't fit the reality of the vast majority of the rest of us.
I know what my 21 year old daughter would tell her, but I'll keep it to myself. Hint though: Two words. First one starts with an F.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Feminism?
Shorter and more succinct, and in Irpino it's *one* word
Footata!
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Good one!
http://caucus99percent.com/comment/193048#comment-193048
XX is all it takes?
Over at Hullabaloo the owner recommended an article which was similar in content to Steinem's fallacy. The author said that the problem with Clinton's loss was that because people saw all Clinton's coziness with Wall Street, the lockstep endorsement of her by Dem insiders, gift of a Senate seat, etc., and they lost sight of the fact that Clinton was an outsider: given that she was a women she couldn't possibly be an insider the author concluded.
It's a sad statement of current feminism that some of it's visible proponents are horrified when a prominent woman was judged by her actions rather than her genetic makeup.
Elena Ceausescu must not have been an insider either
Her gender made her one of the oppressed masses, not a privileged insider with maniacal policies.
That's why she's still alive today, in a condo in Sochi, ...oh wait.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
ummm, SHE GOT THE POPULAR VOTE!
But can she keep it?
The votes are still being counted, and her "lead" keeps narrowing.
Doesn't matter if she racked up YUUUGE margins in New York, California and Illinois - she lost too many of the "little" states. Not to mention losing the "trifecta" (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida) that usually decides a Presidential election (win two of them and you may win - all three and you almost certainly will win).
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
It's not rocket science.
Sexism was not the reason she lost the electoral college.
http://caucus99percent.com/content/its-not-rocket-science
So cruel to deny Her that meager comfort.
But it would be the "icing on the cake".
(No subject)
Let them keep
masturbating with that issue. It's not going anywhere.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
The elites would prefer that we be "class blind."
Hypersensitive to race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnic origin, but class blind.
They're just like us folks, donchano?
"America is a classless society" - Remember hearing that when
growing up?
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
America has no titles, but it does have classes.
And some Americans are classless. Secretary Deplorable and President Elect Gilded Rage are among them.
I cried because I had no shoes,
and then I met a man who had no class.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
I remember "classless society".
I also remember that when I was a kid, when someone would complain about something you did, the big comeback/retort was "It's a free country!" Funny, but I haven't heard that in a long, long time. I wonder why?
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
"It's a free country"...Good one!
[1] That's only our slogan
[2] It's free but restrictions may apply
[3] Check to see if "free" is available in your state
[4] Doesn't include surcharges where applicable.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
And for my generation in Hawaii, the ever-present
[5] Offer good only in continental U.S.
LOL!! And also for you in Hawai'i, "free" come with a platoon
of US Marines to take your country. You like Lanai pineapples don't you?
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
How is Steinem being kept alive?
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
my question exactly!
Do we know for certain it is not a robot
or a Zombie?????
She and George Will
I don't remember ANY of these people
bemoaning Sarah Palin's loss among the electorate. No one insisted she only lost because she was a woman. No one raved at me and blamed me for her loss by accusing me of misogyny and sexism. No, SHE was on team red, so she was dangerous. In fact, I remember quite a few articles on a site that shall remain nameless that laughed and snickered over how craven the Republican party was to put a woman on the ticket--as though we women were stupid enough to vote for her just because of her gender.
But now? Oh, its a whole different issue now-because, you know, Hillary was so QUALIFIED (and a woman and we need to break that last glass ceiling)....*sigh* this crap is getting on my last nerve
Sigh. Now Hillary is but a bug splat
…on the glass ceiling of life.
The phrase "spew chunks" comes to mind.
When a last nerve is plucked like that, there is usually just enough time to make the bathroom.
To all the hurting Clintonoids out there
Try sucking on a stick of Preparation H.
Keep it in your mouth for one term. You know, 2020.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Are you sure
this wasn't a script for an SNL skit or something?
Gloria, you are so right!
And just to enlarge upon your point, inasmuch as the American people, in toto, are unworthy of having such an exalted and uniquely gifted woman as their leader, so too is the "Free World", with all its tastelessness, vulgarity, ignorance and general tackiness, worthy of having someone like Hillary walking around in it.
Therefore, I propose that Hillary be consigned immediately to a prison cell, where her beautiful
wickednesswonderfulness cannot be besmirched or befouled by the unspeakable crassness of the "cornucopia of deplorables" that represents the world we live in, and which has so unforgivably repudiated her, any longer. Of course, it goes without saying that it should be a very nice prison cell, complete with color TV, FM radio, A/C, etc. What say you to that, Ms. Steinem?inactive account
"Elite, White Feminism Gave Us Trump: It Needs to Die"
http://www.versobooks.com/blogs/2936-elite-white-feminism-gave-us-trump-...
Excerpts below:
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
Great article.
I did note that in the comments sections some very harsh attacks from what I took as Hillary supporters. Many praised Clinton's pro-women positions, but they act like they never read anything about what Wikileaks revealed about her positions such as supporting Simpson-Bowles which called for cutting social security. It was as if the first Clinton administration which she played a critical role in was totally forgotten and the toil it took on working class women.
White women sure didn't like Clinton
Trump won all white women voters by 53%. More astounding and indicative of Clinton, she lost white working women by 28 points. I think these margins says something about Clinton. Insane isn't it. Trump won the gender and class war. Some brilliant quotes on the subject:
https://www.thenation.com/article/inequality-between-women-is-crucial-to...
Hillary Clinton the feminist who refused to support $15/hr and who praised Walmart to high heaven, one of the worst employers of women.
I can think of no mainstream feminist of account now.
The shoving of Hillary-ness has been too much for me. No credence.
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Who (self) appointed these elite white women the only true
feminists? I'm a feminist. BLM is led by women, I bet they're feminists. I bet the people who led the $15/hour campaign are feminists.
This reminds me of the conservative a$$hole$ who call themselves the only true Christians.
Feminism is not dead, but Hillary is and was no feminist. Sisterhood over selfhood.
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Oh, I just vomited in my mouth a little bit. n/t
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
No One Remembers This?
There was a time when Steinem was seen frequently in public on the arm of Henry Kissinger. IIRC, there were pictures in at least one of the major magazines at the time (Life? Look? Saturday Evening Post?) of Steinem in a spaghetti-strap evening gown dining at a restaurant across the table from Kissinger.
I looked for a picture, but had no luck. If anyone can find one, please post it in this thread. Testimonials of memory also welcome.
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Welcome to Oppositeland!
LOL! Not only is their crappy candidate one of the major reasons they lost, there's this:
Scuse me, how is Hillary, Barack and Michelle guiding us growing from the bottom up? That sounds like the very illustration of top down! And of course if they try to guide the Dem party, then the Dem party is dead.
Poor Gloria. If only Faux were liberal, she'd fit right in over there in the fact-free Fantasyland. She'd give Sarah a run for the money in the nonsensical babbling department.
I wonder if they've noticed this at TOP yet? My bet is they have!
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