Steinem: Hillary Is Too Good To Be President

Gloria Steinem descends from on high to inform us that Hillary was too noble, too principled, too committed to the downtrodden to be elected President:

Yet I also have to admit that, in answer to the question I’m most often asked, I hoped but never quite believed I would see a female president in my lifetime. At least, not a woman like Hillary Clinton.

If a first female president were someone like, say, Margaret Thatcher, Sarah Palin, or another woman who knew how to play the game and win, I wouldn’t have been surprised. But Hillary Clinton didn’t just play the game; she changed the rules.

Ranking second only to Hillary is the current President:

That’s why electing Barack Obama was such a crucial beginning. We were rewarded by his intellect and gift for unifying, his cool head and warm heart. I believe he will be remembered as a great president, yet he, too, was often paralyzed by corporate and religious powers that are deeply racialized and gendered, and include a male cult of guns. Sometimes I thought that, if his opponents had cancer and Obama had the cure, they wouldn’t accept it.

I found this all to be too funny to be offended, but her last paragraph pisses me off:

Luckily, real change, like a tree, grows from the bottom up, not the top down. We have Hillary, Barack and Michelle to guide us. We will not mourn, we will organize. Maybe we are about to be free.

It takes a lotta (pause) damn gall to use Joe Hill's words to eulogize Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

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Hillbots of the world, unite! You only have your sanity, jobs, homes, self-respect, health care, air you breathe ... to lose.

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politics and the inability to see beyond gender and race and inability to recognize political records that favor the few over the many; war over peace; profit over the biosphere; and the beggaring of the working class. LOL is an appropriate reaction - so would the throwing of a dornick.

Oxfam has estimated that the global 1% owns as much wealth as the 99% of humanity. Thanks for his(or is it His?) "intellect and gift for unifying."

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

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who was peddling the doctrine of "comparable worth" in the '80s? It was a non-starter because lacking a Politburo, no one could set or enforce such a thing.

LOL! Whatever, Gloria.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Christine.MI's picture

needs to punch her in the face knock her off that high pedestal she sits upon.

Voted for Jill, going to Hell.

Whatever, Gloria.

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pronouncement came from the lips of Madeleine Albright, or Madame Not-All-That-Bright, as I like to call her.

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Christine.MI's picture

I just lump those two into the same basket (of deplorables) now. Just me personalizing it.

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Cachola's picture

You were just in it to find a boyfriend. I know I was. (PSA this is snark.)

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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Someone, preferrably a woman, needs to punch her in the face knock her off that high pedestal she sits upon.

Let's split the difference.

Have our heroine pie her in the face. On camera. On international TV and YouTube.

Diablo

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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I keep hearing what a good president Obomber was.... When I ask what did he do that impresses you - he stood up to rethug obstruction (he did?), He's black, he has great soaring rhetoric (which is only rhetorical)...Obummer Care (the insurance scam?)...

I remind them he hasn't jailed a banker, he escalated wars and droning (of even US citizens), he won't stand up for standing rock, he supervised the militarization of our police,... and on and on.

The same kind of Great president Hellery would make. Steinem lives in the 1% bubble where Obomber is great and the $hill is better. Maybe she needs to find a boyfriend like she accused Bernie supporters doing. I have no respect for the neolibs!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Based on his riffs at the White House Press Correspondents' Dinner, he is a natural at comedic timing and delivery. I especially liked his feigned outrage at Prince George's wearing pajamas when they first met.

Also, he gives good speeches. Oh, you said that.

I got nothing else.

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Make him different than Reagan? Reagan was good at delivering his lines too.

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In fairness to Reagan, though, everyone who knew him said he was great at ad libbing. I don't know if Obama is as skilled at ad libbing. On the other hand, I don't know if Reagan was as skilled as Obama at acting.

When Obama ran in 2008, a woman who had switched from Republican to Democratic in 1980 because she hated Reagan switched back after Hillary lost the primary. She said Obama was just like Reagan. I sure didn't agree in 2008, when I was an eager Obama supporter, but I'm not sure now.

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dervish's picture

but in a year's time or so, his reputation will collapse.

He's got nothing.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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She lost me long ago. Too much $$ and a pretty face.

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as a CIA agent; directed a small foundation for them.

She was inserted into the growing feminist movement to derail it and turn it in into a tool of corporate and elite influence. Ask yourselves, who funded her magazine, and inserted it onto drugstore magazine racks all across the country?

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I didn't know anything about this and googled to find out more. And there she was "correcting the record" for the CIA.

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

Apparently, she's quite proud of the fact:

While popularly pilloried because of her paymaster, Steinem defended the CIA relationship, saying: “In my experience The Agency was completely different from its image; it was liberal, nonviolent and honorable.”

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the CIA right now, called Legacy of Ashes. I do plan a review when I finish, here and at Amazon.

For now, let me just say that if you are an American who still loves your country, LoA is very difficult reading. I can only manage a chapter at a time.

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Mary Bennett

why Steinem thinks Hillary, queen of weathervaning, is too principled to be President.

Steinem is delusional. Starkers.

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While he claims he never joined, he was happy to tell us why he thought they were a really keen institution, pretty much along the same lines.

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While he claims he never joined, he was happy to tell us why he thought they were a really keen institution, pretty much along the same lines.

I think that's spelled "Markos Moulitsas Zúniga".....

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website dictator I've ever known.

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That was the one I choked on. Tell that to the victims of CIA torture, either directly by CIA operatives or by those trained by the CIA. When Gloria made that statement I was a hick kid in Puerto Rico and I already knew about CIA atrocities, and sophisticated her didn't know?

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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None are so blind as those who refuse to see (especially what's right under their noses).

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

thx.

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Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.

but now I know. brother!
thx.

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I never liked steinem because she was the safe bourgeois face put on the feminist movement to steal the voices of the more radical warriors. Let's have the acceptable face of feminism comment. But I had no idea it was that much worse. I am surprised this is not known more widely.

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Probably shouldn't be surprised, but I did not see that one coming. Tx, Nastarana!

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Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare

reasonably-priced inventory of bridges in the continental U.S.A. Real moneymakers, too! Fabulous investments, guarantied to pay for themselves in under a year. They are listed for sale exclusively with me and I don't co-broke.

I would love a few minutes to inform her why she should invest in purchasing at least one of them to, you know, diversify her portfolio. Other investors have been all over me to buy these, but I sell them only to a few discerning celebrities. My best customer is Victoria Jackson, who has bought four so far.

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for a bridge. Preferably a cable bridge

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

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I must warn you, though: It's one of the newer ones, so it's not cheap.

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Some French king traded the equivalent of a couple of $trillion for it, nearly bankrupted 'em. They bring it out every Easter and a few other days as well.

Some untruths don't die, people refuse to let them die, no matter how obvious the mistakes.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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I'll guess Louis XIV.

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

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The guy who built Saint Chappelle to house the artifacts (1200s maybe?). That's one of the good things that came out of it, the stained glass is amazing.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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dervish's picture

that don't die. They've invested so much into it, that they can't afford to let it die.

Carbon 14 would probably discredit it.

It's like Jack buying the magic beans, except that they don't grow a magic beanstalk, so instead he makes them Holy Relics. In Jack's mind, that's better than admitting that he made a mistake.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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Barack Obama was such a crucial beginning"

"real change, like a tree, grows from the bottom up"

so obama was the bottom, and clinton was the top.

i hope we all understand the clinton campaign's version of reality here. me next, my turn.

or perhaps just a bottom/top reality. or something.

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GIANT ALL-CAPS SIG

Raggedy Ann's picture

when she dissed all of us as Bernie Bros. She lost any credibility she ever had with me. Now, I see, she has made the choice to remain blind and voiceless. RIP Gloria.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Steven D's picture

She's been in bubble wrap for the past 4 decades.

She's fighting a battle for her class and generation's sake, which simply doesn't fit the reality of the vast majority of the rest of us.

I know what my 21 year old daughter would tell her, but I'll keep it to myself. Hint though: Two words. First one starts with an F.

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

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TheOtherMaven's picture

Footata!

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Over at Hullabaloo the owner recommended an article which was similar in content to Steinem's fallacy. The author said that the problem with Clinton's loss was that because people saw all Clinton's coziness with Wall Street, the lockstep endorsement of her by Dem insiders, gift of a Senate seat, etc., and they lost sight of the fact that Clinton was an outsider: given that she was a women she couldn't possibly be an insider the author concluded.

It's a sad statement of current feminism that some of it's visible proponents are horrified when a prominent woman was judged by her actions rather than her genetic makeup.

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Her gender made her one of the oppressed masses, not a privileged insider with maniacal policies.

That's why she's still alive today, in a condo in Sochi, ...oh wait.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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The votes are still being counted, and her "lead" keeps narrowing.

Doesn't matter if she racked up YUUUGE margins in New York, California and Illinois - she lost too many of the "little" states. Not to mention losing the "trifecta" (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida) that usually decides a Presidential election (win two of them and you may win - all three and you almost certainly will win).

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Sexism was not the reason she lost the electoral college.

http://caucus99percent.com/content/its-not-rocket-science

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But it would be the "icing on the cake".

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masturbating with that issue. It's not going anywhere.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Hypersensitive to race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnic origin, but class blind.

They're just like us folks, donchano?

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growing up?

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

And some Americans are classless. Secretary Deplorable and President Elect Gilded Rage are among them.

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and then I met a man who had no class.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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I also remember that when I was a kid, when someone would complain about something you did, the big comeback/retort was "It's a free country!" Funny, but I haven't heard that in a long, long time. I wonder why?

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"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey

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[3] Check to see if "free" is available in your state
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[5] Offer good only in continental U.S.

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of US Marines to take your country. You like Lanai pineapples don't you?

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

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or a Zombie?????

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bemoaning Sarah Palin's loss among the electorate. No one insisted she only lost because she was a woman. No one raved at me and blamed me for her loss by accusing me of misogyny and sexism. No, SHE was on team red, so she was dangerous. In fact, I remember quite a few articles on a site that shall remain nameless that laughed and snickered over how craven the Republican party was to put a woman on the ticket--as though we women were stupid enough to vote for her just because of her gender.

But now? Oh, its a whole different issue now-because, you know, Hillary was so QUALIFIED (and a woman and we need to break that last glass ceiling)....*sigh* this crap is getting on my last nerve

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…on the glass ceiling of life.

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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato

When a last nerve is plucked like that, there is usually just enough time to make the bathroom.

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Try sucking on a stick of Preparation H.
Keep it in your mouth for one term. You know, 2020.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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this wasn't a script for an SNL skit or something?

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And just to enlarge upon your point, inasmuch as the American people, in toto, are unworthy of having such an exalted and uniquely gifted woman as their leader, so too is the "Free World", with all its tastelessness, vulgarity, ignorance and general tackiness, worthy of having someone like Hillary walking around in it.

Therefore, I propose that Hillary be consigned immediately to a prison cell, where her beautiful wickedness wonderfulness cannot be besmirched or befouled by the unspeakable crassness of the "cornucopia of deplorables" that represents the world we live in, and which has so unforgivably repudiated her, any longer. Of course, it goes without saying that it should be a very nice prison cell, complete with color TV, FM radio, A/C, etc. What say you to that, Ms. Steinem?

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http://www.versobooks.com/blogs/2936-elite-white-feminism-gave-us-trump-...

Excerpts below:

Conservative political savant Karl Rove said this week on Fox News that focus groups conducted with working-class women showed that they didn’t care that Clinton would be the first woman president. And compared to Obama in 2008, Clinton won fewer votes from women, whether they were black, Latina or white.

...But many Americans — whether they voted for Trump, or more likely, stayed home — knew Clinton had long been an integral part of the system that had failed them. Working-class women knew perfectly well that for all Clinton’s “listening tours,” the only listening that mattered took place in conversations with her high-end funders, in the living rooms of the Hamptons and Beverly Hills– or in the Q&A sessions after her $250,000 speeches to Goldman Sachs. In the fall of 2016, she was spending most of her time with the super-rich.

Her tone-deaf campaign didn’t even pretend to transcend such class divisions. Once she had secured the nomination, Clinton offered few ideas about how to make ordinary women’s lives better. That’s probably because what helps the average woman most is redistribution, and Clinton’s banker friends wouldn’t have liked that very much.

...Feminists have to fight Trump, and his violent sexism, racism and, perhaps most urgently, xenophobia and religious intolerance. But we can’t do it with leaders who would rather hobnob with billionaires than fight for ordinary women. A feminism that revels in its identification with people like Clinton – forming groups with names like Pantsuit Nation – is not a feminism that values the lives of most women.

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti

I did note that in the comments sections some very harsh attacks from what I took as Hillary supporters. Many praised Clinton's pro-women positions, but they act like they never read anything about what Wikileaks revealed about her positions such as supporting Simpson-Bowles which called for cutting social security. It was as if the first Clinton administration which she played a critical role in was totally forgotten and the toil it took on working class women.

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Trump won all white women voters by 53%. More astounding and indicative of Clinton, she lost white working women by 28 points. I think these margins says something about Clinton. Insane isn't it. Trump won the gender and class war. Some brilliant quotes on the subject:

https://www.thenation.com/article/inequality-between-women-is-crucial-to...


The class divisions between women came to a head in the 2016 election, when Big Feminism failed women, big-time. Mainstream feminists sold women a bill of goods, arguing that the election of a woman president would improve the lot of women as a class. Echoing Sheryl Sandberg’s dubious thesis, they claimed that leadership by women will as a matter of course produce gains for all women—though actually, the social science evidence for this claim is mixed at best. There was also a lot of talk about how having a woman president would “normalize” female power.
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 But it’s not only the Democratic Party that is badly in need of reform. The feminist movement, too, needs to reorient itself. Feminists would be well-advised to ease up on pop culture navel-gazing and corporate pseudo-feminist drivel like Lean In. They need to shift their central focus from the glass ceiling to the sticky floor, which, after all, is the place where most women dwell. A feminism that delivers for working-class women by addressing their material needs could expand feminism’s base and bring about a much-needed feminist revival. A feminism that delivers for working-class women by addressing their material needs could radically expand feminism’s base. And should feminism once again become a vibrant bottom-up mass movement instead of a top-down elite concern, there’s no telling how far it could go.

Hillary Clinton the feminist who refused to support $15/hr and who praised Walmart to high heaven, one of the worst employers of women.

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The shoving of Hillary-ness has been too much for me. No credence.

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feminists? I'm a feminist. BLM is led by women, I bet they're feminists. I bet the people who led the $15/hour campaign are feminists.

This reminds me of the conservative a$$hole$ who call themselves the only true Christians.

Feminism is not dead, but Hillary is and was no feminist. Sisterhood over selfhood.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020

There was a time when Steinem was seen frequently in public on the arm of Henry Kissinger. IIRC, there were pictures in at least one of the major magazines at the time (Life? Look? Saturday Evening Post?) of Steinem in a spaghetti-strap evening gown dining at a restaurant across the table from Kissinger.

I looked for a picture, but had no luck. If anyone can find one, please post it in this thread. Testimonials of memory also welcome.

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

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LOL! Not only is their crappy candidate one of the major reasons they lost, there's this:

Luckily, real change, like a tree, grows from the bottom up, not the top down. We have Hillary, Barack and Michelle to guide us. We will not mourn, we will organize. Maybe we are about to be free.

Scuse me, how is Hillary, Barack and Michelle guiding us growing from the bottom up? That sounds like the very illustration of top down! And of course if they try to guide the Dem party, then the Dem party is dead.

Poor Gloria. If only Faux were liberal, she'd fit right in over there in the fact-free Fantasyland. She'd give Sarah a run for the money in the nonsensical babbling department.

I wonder if they've noticed this at TOP yet? My bet is they have!

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