Hey, here's an idea!

Now that our wars will no longer be instigated by a Commander-in-Chief with a (D) next to his name, can we have our antiwar movement back?

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featheredsprite's picture

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

It vanished after Obama was elected, just not because the wars stopped.

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Exactly. And yet, I think we are seeing the beginnings of a manipulation of liberal outrage towards more divisiveness and fear mongering.

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Big Al's picture

https://www.startpage.com/snowden/

Apologies for butting in with an unrelated post!

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti

fakenews's picture

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

passed during the lame duck session while he's still prez and that needs opposing.

Obama has massed 300,000 NATO troops on Russia's border so that's a flashpoint that Legacy Boy has cooked up.

Obama, following the CFR, is making aggressive military moves in the vicinity of China and trying to isolate that country that is said to be the 2nd most powerful in the world.

Obama is all out in favor of the pipeline the Water Protector are bravely standing up against - the protectors deserve our help and support.

Obama's and Hatch's nominee to the Supreme Court is still active and a juror who thinks corporations have more rights than people is not wanted or needed.

There's a lot of vile things Obama can do while still in office and whatever we can do to thwart them will be a big plus.

Bascially, Obama can cause as m

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

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Obama said TPP dead right after his meeting with Trump today...

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Trump's going to be a disaster, just look at who's being floated for appointments, but that's at least 2 positives: Getting rid of the Clintons and stopping the TPP.

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saw mention of his intentions was about 4 or 5 days ago and it indicated he was going to try. I appreciate the correction.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

Lily O Lady's picture

the GOP and still have it pass. The 1% gets what they want and the faux battle between the parties continues leaving the 99% screwed as usual.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

Have you got a link handy, so that we can check the phrasing? I can't find anything on this but my searches, even on Duck, tend to produce only older articles on sensitive subjects ...

I'd like to believe Obama about the TPP being dead, (which had better include the other corporate coups, and not just mean it or another such is going to be snuck in quietly, perhaps in some other guise) but I've given him the benefit of too many doubts already.

The TPP had already been said, quite some time back, to have been put on hold until after the election or the new President came in until word leaked out almost immediately about Obama putting pressure on reps to pass it during the lame duck when he evidently hoped nobody would notice delegated legislators - whose offices exist to serve the public interest - illegally and unconstitutionally giving away The People's right to domestic law in the public interest to hostile outsiders to be used against The People, their country and their Constitution protecting these, which said legislator's are also sworn to uphold in order to hold their offices at all.

Not that there aren't many other unconstitutional 'trade deals' involving this illegal mechanism of gifting bizarre corporate 'rights' to sue any public protecting themselves from profitable hazards or other encroachment on basic democratic/human rights to serve profiteering self-interests, including individual freedom of choice among citizens, in order to force these upon The People, animals and ecology, all of which Trojan Horse thefts of democracy obviously involve traitorous conspiracies, the perpetrators of which need to be dealt with, if necessary, in independent international courts - but the TPP and others literally took control of law in offshored courts where the public interest had no standing.

But if any such corporate coup is prevented, one aspect of them all is that people like me and others here may no longer be waiting to die on the streets in the very near future, since we can no longer earn a living and are dependent upon social programs which would be targeted in all involved countries.

These - as with anything else benefiting the public - will, however, likely be targeted in some other fashion in the near future...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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And McConnell were quoted as saying no vote in Lame duck, the latter adding will wait on Trump.

There is a big coalition of groups who had planned on converging on DC next week to Stop TPP in LameDuck but not sure now what will happen.
Check this out few days ago.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/08/the-fight-ahead-activists-look-pa...

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

fakenews's picture

I know Hillary had an ongoing relationship with Kissinger so she probably had some neocons lined up for cabinet posts and what not. Now I hear neocons Stephen Hadley and John Bolton's names floated around for some of Trump's administration. That really scares the crap outta' me. Would be good to know who's who of the neocons before he nominates some of these crazies...

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

QMS's picture

Fight to stop war!

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Shahryar's picture

it'll feel more like an anti-them movement

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