Alpha's Election Night Survival Thread/Live Blog. Now with useful tips!

Well, I just went and voted (Stein, couldn't bring myself to break my pledge to not vote for evil, even to stop Clinton.)

Some interesting anecdotes:

My wife went to vote right after she got off work this morning. She arrived about 20 minutes before the Florida polls opened. She reported that there were only about a dozen people in line and by the time she was done voting there was no line whatsoever.

I decided to wait and go closer to peak time (shortly after 5PM when I figured people getting off work would be arriving to vote) and there was zero line. I walked straight up to the person, surrendered my mail in ballot and then got my approval slip to pick up my ballot. (Was excited to see that my #DemExit to the Green party had already been registered!!! Woohoo!!

On my way in and out to the polling station there was a pair of large black signs with bold lettering saying, "No political advertising, signs, or electioneering beyond this point.

Can you guess what was directly in front of all four signs just past shy of the limit?

4 Trump/Pence signs.

Nowhere in the ride towards my polling place (at a church in a rural neighborhood) I saw ZERO Clinton signs.

Not a one.

About 15 Trump signs on the side of the road and on peoples lawns. (I was somewhat happy to see a couple, "VOTE GREEEN!" signs but only a couple.... Upside? That's a couple more than I saw for Clinton.

Ok, Now for the survival part of this guide.

On my way home from the polls I decided I needed to pick up some necessary supplies for the evening and the morrow.

For our first survival item we are featuring our good friend Alcohol. Ahhh, that stalwart companion that has helped me not give a shit about things in the past, if only for a short time, is going to make a strong entrance tonight I think no matter the outcome.

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Now, as I was pretty sure that even that wouldn't be enough to quite help us get through the evening I had to break into my emergency supplies and bring out the big guns. (One of which you can see on the right side of the screen in the previous photo, however tonight is already necessitating the bringing out of the big guns...)

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However, I fear that even with the above it may not be enough to get the job done so I have the following two items. First, one to pour into my eyes so I don't have to see that smug, arrogant evil smile if she manages to steal pull off a victory.

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And a couple of these to jam into my ears so I don't ever have to hear her voice again:

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(Maybe I can sue the manufacturer for not putting a warning label on those things... But then again, since that's me even if I win I wont get shit, lol!)

Well, I invite you to join me below, share the things you are seeing on the net and in R/L, and tie one on.

First hit is free... Smile

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Bollox Ref's picture

......couldn't bring myself to break my pledge to not vote for evil, even to stop Clinton.)

There was a dark moment last night when I thought about it, but quickly came to my senses. Felt good to vote Green this morning.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Alphalop's picture

shoulders.

I know that no matter which assclown wins things are not gonna be good, it's just down to a matter of degrees.

I gotta admit I did come damn close to filling in that oval next to Trump. Hard.... For about 5 more minutes once I actually had the pen in my hand. It was hovering over that oval for a solid 3 of those 5 minutes.

I didn't vote for a single down ballot democrat. Rejecting their party means rejecting those that carry water for them as well no matter how good they may actually be simply because by putting them in even if they manage to win just places them in a party that will either corrupt or marginalize them.

Fortunately this was an easy choice for me as there was not a single down ballot Democrat worth voting for here in Florida in my district.

For the first time ever I left any section of the ballot blank that did not have a either an independent or green party candidate.

Florida is RIPE for a third party, Half the damn Republicans running were unopposed! How is that a vote if there is only one name on the ballot for that office? This just proves that the Dems are not serious about taking things down ballot any lower than the house.

I think we are gonna need a lot of humor tonight, some of it may get dark even, but its laugh, cry or go and choke some asshole out.

I'm gonna try to go with laugh. Smile

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

Bollox Ref's picture

that this will be the Mother of All Alphlop election threads.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

dance you monster's picture

. . . but only if our typing skills don't deteriorate too rapidly.

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Alphalop's picture

and amused by the whole thing.

I will try to keep it up.

But no guarantees. I may totally go off the rails by the end of the night, lol!

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

Citizen Of Earth's picture

Glad you created an Open Thread for Election Evening.

If you take the hastag (#) off of your Open Thread tag, the essay will appear in the Open Thread section at the top of the right-hand column. Makes it easier to find the thread.
ElenaCarlena showed me that today. So Hattip to her.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Alphalop's picture

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

When the thread gets bigger than 200 or so comments, please start a new one. It will help the server to work faster and help people with old computers to participate.. If you one one long mega thread for the whole night, imagine the effort involve for just ONE refresh.

Thanks,

So far the guardian map has Hillary losing to Trump everywhere. If Trump wins, I will cry becausehe won and cheer because Hillary lost. Talk about bipolar...

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

harrybothered's picture

You and me both. And probably a lot of other people on this site.
The Clinton campaign really f*cked ALL of us with their Pied Piper.

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"The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to those who think they've found it."
Terry Pratchett, Monstrous Regiment

Alphalop's picture

I already have the second essay prepped and ready to go if/when it hits 200+

Based on the awesome amount of dialog you guys always bring to the table I expect we may end up with a part 2 and 3.

(Although to be honest the third one may just be me drunk babbling/sobbing onto my keyboard depending on tonights results, lol!)

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MsGrin's picture

I haven't read the essay yet, but I'm guessing the FIRST TIP is to not watch the returns... amirite?

As the polls close here, I'm headed to join a friend at her yoga class. I'll pick some dinner on the way home. With any luck, it will all be over by the time I get back (it sure was over that quick in 2008...)

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Alphalop's picture

or associated with any of my online friends outside of here.

I am however about to check out TYT and see if hopefully Jimmy can lighten up the evening a bit.

[video:https://youtu.be/aZOW_9rVkdo]

(Edited to add, "Cenk's face in that still looks a lot like mine will probably look if/when I found out The Shill successfully steals this election.)

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MsGrin's picture

I grew up. Am thinking still not a good idea to watch anything live... that place was a bump in the road rather than a town when we used to drive through it. Pretty much it was a dinosaur museum and a gas station, if I recall. There was a big ranch nearby where clothing was apparently optional.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

I made up for all of you, I DID vote for President Trump. And, surprise - he's doing very well in western MA. A friend just drove up from CT, and was STUNNED to see how many Trump signs on the back roads, no Clinton signs.

Also expect Soros & Co, David Brock, Podesta have already figured out how to manipulate the machines. We vote with paper ballots & pencil here.

I can't bear the thought of watching or listening to a talking head, so what's the best way to learn results online.
Thanks.

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Alphalop's picture

Provided my head doesn't explode or I manage to consume everything listed above before the results are all in. Smile

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

Thank you, or "ta" as the Brits would say.

What's in the large tall jar in the right of one of the pics, which doesn't look like nutritional yeast, and is much too plentiful to be what we used to call grass? Smile

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Alphalop's picture

bit of a hint. Smile

I have to get a decent amount when I can because I go through a considerable amount in lieu of Opiate based pain killers (A long story I may have mentioned in a previous essay) and it is very hard to find at times.

I am not in a legal state, but eligible under the affirmative defense according to my attorney so I try not to worry too much about getting thrown in a cage for choosing something besides big Pharma.

I am not sure from your previous post or not if you are a Trump supporter, but if so I would just like to add that while I don't support your candidate I find him preferable to Clinton.

If not, I admire your fortitude to "Take one for the team" to try to block the Democrats. I really did go back and forth on doing so myself for quite some time.

Regardless, all are welcome here and I am happy that you decided to join us. Smile

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

Just desperate to do what ever I can to get rid of the Clintons. Wasn't difficult to use the deep dark graphite pencil and make an X in the box next to his name. Figure more will vote Jill, which is wonderful & I hope we get way beyond 5%, but sad it won't hurt Clintons as much as a vote for Trump might.

Thank's for explanation - we still use these beautiful hand blown dichroic glass pipes. Recreational in our case. But know so many who are getting tremendous benefit from larger amounts, and another place on our paper ballot which got a LARGE X next to legalize. So many friends with PTSD, and side effects from chemotherapy now also really benefiting from using it. Can't understand the "argument" against legalization, and frankly, don't have the patience anymore to even listen to it!

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an..an I d.d.d.onty gish a fcukuck

Wink

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Alphalop's picture

Don't worry, I am trying to catch up. Biggrin

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

some warming Calvados, we will probably curl up and fall asleep on the sofa before the end anyway

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divineorder's picture

... had this earworm off and on since Standing Rock began.

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

Maybe you should have started with a warning. I like this music. I started to listen and watch. Suddenly scenes from Standing Rock filled my head. My entire adult life and it seems like we haven't moved an inch. Civil rights are better now, but there were jobs then.

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With that jar of the smokable. Holy shizizzle!

I think I lived about 40 miles from you before I left Florida early this year. First time I thought it might be nice to be back Smile

Vote green, indeed!

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“If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”

Alphalop's picture

I am liking the idea of cabins on Caya Costa...

Very affordable, only accessible by boat and I don't have to travel with my little green friend. Smile

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

me too mostly, thank a hungover is more better for the marrow

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Alphalop's picture

Boo Gaum! lol!

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tapu dali's picture

Mecklenburg.

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

tapu dali's picture

our resident vexillologist.

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Bollox Ref's picture

Wink

(Edited)

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Bollox Ref's picture

Off to Congress with you Smile

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

(no, really. I turn flaming red and start itching all over from just one sip)
But I'll join you with the green stuff. Leaving work now Smile

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tapu dali's picture

?Kore wa nan desu ka?

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Alphalop's picture

is the Green Stuff being referred to I believe. Smile

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

divineorder's picture

On my screen it at first it looked like you had a big jar of Chipotles .

Thinking tonight am going to go for my

Chipotle-infused Tito's Handmade Vodka Martini
Tito's Handmade Vodka from Austin
1 golden dried Chipotle pepper
1 whole Madagascar Vanilla Bean
Leave the chipotle and vanilla bean alone in the wodka for a week or three.

Gud sheet, mahn!

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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Alphalop's picture

Mini Evil and Orange Evil filling in the map as it goes.

So far Donald is CRUSHING Clinton in;

IN: 71.9% Trump 24.4% Clinton 2.9% Johnson
KY: 68.5% Trump 28% Clinton 2.3% Johnson
NH; 52.5% Trump 41% Clinton 6.6% Johnson

(None of the states listed results for Stein on the Guardian)

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

ah home, wonder how many wrote in like me, Bernie

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Politco did not even show Bernie in the results. Damn. How the Hell did Hellery capture VT.

http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president?lo=ut_b1

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

I went to Vermont's SOS website. They are only showing candidates who are on the ballot.

https://vtelectionresults.sec.state.vt.us/Index.html#/federal

But they DO show the number of write-in votes - they just don't say who they are for.

Right now 43/273 precincts reporting. Total write-in votes 3,855 or 6.50% of total votes cast.

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tapu dali's picture

majority are for Sanders) is more than all minor parties combined

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

Jill Stein is on the ballot in VT.

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Still stunned at the lack of support for Jill ...

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elenacarlena's picture

the vote recorded, not including Lexington or Louisville at all, which usually are the blue areas. It should tighten up considerably. So far Jill has 0.5% of the vote, even Evan McMullin is beating her, argh! Hopefully that'll improve a lot too.

But New Hampshire surprises me. Didn't they vote Bernie?

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Alphalop's picture

the mouse wheel to see the individual districts and the direction they are going currently where results have been reported.

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WaveyDavey's picture

next to the candidate cartoons they say mean things about each other. Hi Alphalop. Thanks for doing this. I've got my "basket of the pourables".

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The people, united, will never be defeated.

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If not, that basket just sealed the deal. Smile

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Shahryar's picture

because otherwise people would have had a hard time voting after work.

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OLinda's picture

They have Johnson and McMullin, and not Stein.

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and Vermont -how delicious to think of at least some of the New England states waking up!!!

Still curious about what's in the tall glass bottle on right of one picture. Just couldn't be grass ( mar-a-jee-wanna) as we used to call it - when a nickel bag cost about a nickel. The stuff today is SO much more powerful. Scary for us old folk who aren't used to it.

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elenacarlena's picture

hot coffee drinks.

Recipe:

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Result:

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With a side of bourbon balls:

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Please don't disable yourself, LOL! We have a lot of work to do, starting tomorrow (or maybe the day after if we're all hung over!).

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My FSM that stuff looks amazing!

Now I am somewhat disappointed with my choices, lol!

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elenacarlena's picture

OK, I don't fight it, but still.

Don't worry, your bottles look lovely also!

Kentucky has more bourbon barrels than people. Too bad they can't vote!

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I may be forced to make you some lovely stuff for helping me acquire them. Smile

I can make some beautiful pens and seam rippers out of them. (As well as the scrap being excellent for smoking meat.)

Not sure if this is something that is locally accessible but if so I would be happy to compensate you for your time in helping me find a good deal on some. Smile

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Shahryar's picture

reminds me of when I turned 21. I lived over a pub on Geary St. in San Francisco. I would wake up, go downstairs and have an Irish coffee for breakfast. Sometimes two of them, because I'd turned 21, you know.

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Usually any food or drink (or person!) with Kentucky in the title will have bourbon in it.

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It was 1994. We left my in-laws at some museum or historic place in Louisville and took off to the distillary. The road was clearly marked and we found our way there. We were surprised it was a back road, very rural, but very populated.

We enjoyed the tour and headed back. Well, that was our intent, easier said than done. The road was not so clearly marked coming back. It was a twisted road with many forks and ways to go. We had to get directions many times.

When we finally got back, the historical place had long closed and my in-laws were not very pleased.

We are still happy we went, though! The drink looks yummy!

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

OLinda's picture

Sam Seder is covering election results all night. Here is his show on YouTube.

I haven't listened to him in a long while, but I am pretty sure he fell into the fear Trump, vote Clinton camp. Still should be better than watching some of the usual channels.

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I believe the true word is selection, not election. Wink

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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Been quiet, but here every day...or most days. And here now to go thru it together. Watching TYT, too.

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"Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change." Stephen Hawking

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"Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change." Stephen Hawking

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to TrueGreen....

Added you to my Twitter follow list.

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"Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change." Stephen Hawking

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Alphalop's picture

Hehe TB...

I agree, you may have to become TG.

Sounds less gross, after this election doubly so. Wink

No pressure though, took me 4 months to finally edit my sig line... lol!

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Lookout's picture

has Jill and a bunch of others depending on the state - CO had an amazing number of choices for president.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president

They have many choices in CO including edibles.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

OLinda's picture

got 1,832 votes in Kentucky.

Smile

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Creosote.'s picture

state goes Dem, but Stein gets 3.9% of the vote.

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Borkrom's picture

I am looking forward to watching the circus.

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Alphalop's picture

I am hoping this is a fun evening.

The only solace I can take from a Trump Victory (if it goes that way) is we won't have to endure the smug assholes from TOP coming over here to troll us for quite some time I bet, lol!

I gotta find a silver lining, and blocking the Clinton Corruption Cabal from retaining power and the potential for the destruction of both major parties is a damn shiny one.

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

I was so livid, I told my son that I was going to vote Trump. He was like sure, Mom, go ahead if you want to. But no, I couldn't do it. I voted for Jill Stein and Robin Laverne Wilson (Green for Senator), and Yvette Clark (Congresswoman Brooklyn) in the Working Families Party column. I am putting my demexit in the mail on my way home. Not much satisfaction, but a little bit.

I spoke to a coworker today who told me that she had voted for Clinton because she was terrified of Trump. Then she asked me if I knew anything about those emails people were talking about. She was literally shocked when I told her that I had read many of them and asked me isn't that illegal?

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and all moral agency lies with the party and government, rather than with themselves as free individual citizens.

She was literally shocked when I told her that I had read many of them and asked me isn't that illegal?

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communities within a 40 mile radius for the entire campaign, and have not seen a Clinton sign in a yard or a sticker on a bumper. A few for Trump. Like, a handful.
I have to work tomorrow, so I will down a 6 pack of beer, think deep thoughts, avoid tv, stick to c99 for news.
In some mood of despair, I have gone vegetarian today. Fresh broccoli, corn on the cob, sliced vine ripened tomato, fresh baked bread...like, I don't want to add to the bloodshed.
In honor of Her, I shall eat cake.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Alphalop's picture

had me laughing my ass off!

I almost blew water and the whole damn stem out of my bong when the fat guy with the top knot ripped off his shirt and started really moving.

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OLinda's picture

The Guardian results

NY Times results

First results in:

Trump leading Ind. Ky, and N.H.

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mimi's picture

of course that is mimi's convenient result muddying and are seriously only in that they don't interest me anyhow. Have to watch on TV, my internet connection in the hotel is miserably slow. Oh dear frigging lord and of course I have only a laptop and everything is missing to watch the live coverage on The Real News Network and Democracy Now.
God wanted to save.
Now they go into their racial stuff, who voted according to exit polls. Sigh. I haven't watched CNN for years. Now I have no choice.

OK changing demographics. Stuff so boring I turn down the sound.

CNN says Trump wins in Kentucky and Indiana, Clinton in Vermont. So, what? Is that exiting or what?

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Cachola's picture

I have all my jokes ready for all those miserable cunts who called me racist, misogynistic and anti-semite to boot. Oh, and stupid, don't forget stupid.

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

Alphalop's picture

I have lots of friends there that I am always chatting with via skype and whatnot, and they drop that word like we do ass. As in He's an Ass, has the same impact to us as Cunt does to them.

Personally I almost NEVER used to use it, but when you spend hours talking with people you pick up their colloquialisms, and I was chatting with a buddy of mine here and called him a silly cunt and both he and I did a double take.

Then we both started laughing because he knew I didn't mean it in the American way, and that almost made it funnier.

However if that is not the case I am not gonna have any ill will for your choice to use it, I hate word policing in general, even when it goes against my personal preference. (Not that I feel strongly about this in any event.)

Still got a thumbs up for me because I can get 100% behind the sentiment if not the word. Smile

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Granma's picture

Maybe that is an option for you tonight.

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mimi's picture

on Link TV here in the hotel.

So, I am a bit better off with that.

The map looks a bit too red right now. That's all I understand. How will California go.

All I believe is that in Germany they don't are as much against Clinton as they are against Trump.
But I really don't know. I can't hear anymore about all the discussions about the racial aspects of the vote.

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based solely on exit polls.

Somehow, I am dubious.

NH is leaning towards Trump currently

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Both with sizable margins.

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I mistyped premanure, LOL! Freudian fingers.

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but I am back now. Don't ask. Just that out of six candidates the one I dislike most won. Looks like we are going to be real Murikans now, with political dynasties and all.

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