THE ELECTION IS NOT OVER

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The Mainstream Media would have us believe that Donald Trump did so "badly" in the debate two weeks ago that a major new public consensus has been formed around Hillary Clinton, and all the polls have swung over to her in a dramatic way, and she will win in a blowout.

Regardless of how one feels about the debate, the polls have not changed all that much, and the race is not over.

In fact the situation is much like it was with Bernie Sanders -- where Hillary Clinton still cannot even get more than 200 people at her big public rallies and has to actually hire people to help fill the room, while Trump continues to draw very large crowds and remains resilient -- even as the Mainstream Media continues to cherry pick his jokes and words to ridicule him and portray him as a monster. But we still have a ball game.

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Right now, I have no confidence in the integrity of the Election. I predict the same Election corruption tactics that were used so effectively against Bernie Sanders will also be used in the November Election to favor Clinton. But even with that, the fact remains:

  1. If Clinton cannot draw real crowds out to her public appearances, then what does say about the 2016 voter turnout?
  2. If Clinton has to continue to need to rest up for two days in order to appear strong and sharp in front of cameras at major events, then at what point will the timing be just a little off ... and we will see her melt down at a really important moment?

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In short, this race is far from over. The Establishment is so transparently behind just one candidate (Hillary) with the Major Media having lost all traces of any professional objectivity. But the people aren't completely buying it, and they're thinking independently. They long for change .. real change ... even bad change ... rather than the steady, calculated, and assured downward spiral that the Globalists have put this Country on ... for the last 40 years.

Perhaps too much diligence from alternative Media has revealed the fact that the devil that you know is indeed really the worst case scenario for the Country and the World -- and this fact simply cannot be hidden away and buried anymore. The cat is out of the bag, and just maybe there comes a time when a bad, freelancing President is still better than the assured destruction and horror of a calculating, too-eager, well-scripted puppet.

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Fight The Establishment!

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Speaking of investigating 9/11, I came across something today.

According to this video, the URL of which has been posted below, US 'foreign policy', as well as destroying health-care and educational systems in Iraq, (TPTB evidently hate mere mortals having such public programs, just as much as they detest the notion of any freedoms being retained by the 'common people', as they must have it all themselves,) killed far more than a half-million children - only those age 5 and under were counted, and even those were only counted at all for a limited period.

(Mention of an Asian campaign finance crisis under Clinton? Must look up, if anything will show in a freaking search anymore... Amy Goodman, like corporate media, is said to have refused to cover this apparent mockery of a trial covered in the talk given - where a chemical lobotomy was apparently documented as having been demanded for the victim - and complete with secret charges under the Patriot Act.)

All I can say is that this - as far as I know - hangs together and fits all known 9/11 facts. Video's 1 1/2 hours, thought others might want to make time for it, keep what's claimed here under consideration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb0A6XZa1Ks&t=0s

Hillary Clinton was involved in this...I guess I have to vote for Trump now...

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Trump--big liar, flamboyant and unconcerned
Killary--big liar, covert, devious and unconcerned

Trump--cheats workers and contractors out of thousands or millions of dollars.
Killary--extorts billions on international scale

Trump--wants bigger military but good relations with Russia and China
Killary--wants confrontation with Russia over Syria

Trump--declares personal bankruptcies
Killary--allows million to go into bankruptcy (they should have read the fine print)

Trump--what he says changes from day to day or even from paragraph to paragraph
Hillary--takes polls, has focus groups and lies at her convince ("Convenience" is very desirable in Killary's world, as it allows here to fuck us over without breaking a sweat.

So what's the cliche: the Devil we know versus the Devil we don't know. Can anybody say we do know Killary (at least who have survived)? They're both Devils and one thing for sure: Killary is a Mad Bomber who doesn't give a damn about anything except Killary. Trump loves himself "bigly" but he wants the notoriety--not the corpses.

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…if they want to. They can deliver a defeat to Hillary by voting directly against her.

They don't have to subject the nation to the continuing nightmare of war — very dangerous wars that will cost them dearly. The Left can easily save the American people if they want to, and spare them the crushing austerity they will face.

For Hillary, it will be a simple matter to unleash the horrors of the great war because the unelected Neocons occupy the most powerful positions in the Permanent Federal government. Their rabid ideology to gain Empire for the US and its cohort, Israel, has pushed the nation into 25 years of criminal foreign death and destruction. It appears this may have broken the American people, who feel helpless as they survey their police state dystopia, surrounded by third-world levels of poverty and neglect.

The Neocon's prized candidate is poised to win, and the global situation is poised for their main event. They are driven to destroy the remaining blocks to their global dictatorship — the non-agressive superpowers, Russia and China and their ally Iran. There is only one nation that freely roams the brown world bringing chaos and death and the destruction of nations, and the Neocons intend to keep it that way. They know the time to strike is now, before these competing superpowers become any stronger..

The Neocons just need their meat-puppet presidents, the zombie Clintons, to occupy the White House this one last time to lull Americans into the final surrender to their fears, while clinging to their fake democracy. They also need most of the government's tax revenues to throw down the black hole of war for this final push, and they plan to take it away from needy Americans, the throw-away people. After the Clintons and the Temporary Congress, feeding at the Federal trough, erect insurmountable barriers that make third parties politically and legally impossible, it will not be necessary for the Clinton's to even finish their term. They, too, are throw away people. The entire world is sick of them.

On the other hand, the overwhelming majority of Americans want the very opposite. They want the wars to stop, now. They are no longer the primitive and unfocused vengeance-seekers that they were fifteen years ago when the Bush-Obama Terror Wars were first launched, following to the letter the Neocon's established strategy.

The dilemma for the leaderless Left is to overcoming the propaganda-crippling fears of a disempowered population — so they can defeat the enemy within: The Establishment Democrats who seized that party to serve the Neocon Empire. Voting is not enough.

They must vote directly and strategically against Hillary to stop her insane agenda and regain the nation before it is locked into its dismal fate. Some believe the Left is too weak, too brainwashed to take a morally principled stand against Hillary and the duopoly in order to defeat her and shatter the power of the current Democratic Party.

I am not so certain. I see other forces that could help tip the election and ruin everything for the Neocons. America wants its moral compass back.

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I don’t see how we get around that.

Of course, Bernie was the “f— this sh—” vote but he got sidelined by the elites backing Hillary, using every dirty trick in the book.

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And everything Hillary and the establishment turned on Bernie, is being turned against Trump even stronger! They are afraid of the power of the anti-establishment vote, and rightfully so!

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Unfortunately, Trump IS one of the billionaires running government.

Vote non-corporate, non-billionaire, non-TPP supporting. Vote Jill - unless in Vermont, New Hampshire or Oregon, if you'd like to write in Bernie instead, something which will not harm Jill's campaign.

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tweet, will the Trumpster even bother to show up for the debate? It's over. Called 9:30pm Fri. 10.07.2016.

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Really ? Like we don't have to suffer through enough BS already. Please find better sources for your links.

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Thing is that it's accurate, not just a made-up hatchet job. Anyone who knows anything about Russia is screaming for the US to back-off. Russia just went through a massive Civil Defense exercise, some 40 million people. They are prepared to defend their country at any cost. The US has been a totally pampered country with hardly a scratch on it from war. This will go from total ignorance to total destruction, the end of American indifference to the brutality of war. The highest priority now to protect our country is to see to it that Hillary never sits in the Oval Office.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

to Not get into a war with Russia. Then not elect $hills.

F@CK ALL WARS!

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Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

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A lot of people are kind of half-advocating Hillary, saying we must work to elect her while at the same time organizing to push back against her once she’s in.

But actually, does that make any more sense than working to elect Trump while at the same time organizing to push back hard against him once he’s in?

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...trading strategy in the markets: hedging.

Essentially, it's a way to prevent the ravages and volatility of the market from affecting your net worth while you're in a trade. You simply place an identical trade in the opposite direction, which freezes both your losses and gains, for a time.

Hedging in politics is a lot trickier to pull off, and there's always the risk of unintended consequences, but I understand why folks would want to make a bargain like that. I'm willing to bargain for a paralyzed and frozen stiff federal government that Trump would bring. It seems like a much safer bet than the one Bernie suggests: After you elect Hillary, try begging her to become a decent human being.

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There is a reason that you haven't seen a single presidential poll from Gallup, the most respected trustworthy pollster in the business, and it's because they refuse to be party to the charade.

The only polls that can be trusted today are online polls, and that is based upon the objective "scientific" facts:

#1) Freeping is no longer an issue because (a) the shear number of respondents is so high, like in the hundreds of thousands, and due to cookies, the number of users who have the tools to spoof the cookie is nominal (ie: within the statistical margin of error), and (b) both sides are freeping, so it is a wash anyway, and

#2) the internet is ubiquitous, so the sample set is an accurate cross section of the general population, by and large.

#3) MSM "Official" polling, which uses Landlines, Cell Phones, and Focus groups, is (a) highly prone to bias, and (b) only interviews a very VERY limited sample size, compared to the internet today, so that methodology is far less accurate.

And......

Online polls show Hillary's numbers TANKING. And ALL the online polls showed Trump destroyed Hillary in the debate. And a number of the the online polls show Stein crushing both Trump AND Hillary AND Johnson. Now, I am not sure how to read that, because I am not sure how motivated conservative Trump supporters are to take those general election polls, so they might be skewed in that regard, but what those polls do reveal is that Stein is taking the majority of the liberal vote. Yeah, I think Stein is the sleeper candidate here, and *IF* this is an honest election, and it very well might be, given Trump's power and influence, there might be a rather profound surprise in November. I am not saying Stein will win, but she very well might win several liberal states. I do think Trump's base is unified, given the number of votes he got in the primary, (and disregarding the GOP Elite's lack of support, which means absolutely nothing, I believe) but I don't think Stein can get more than 70% of the liberal vote (because of the yellow dog democrats and Hillary zealots), which is why I think this is going to be a landslide victory for Trump. But again, this assumes (and this is a HUGE assumption) that the DNC does not rig the general election the way that they rigged the primary election.

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…beyond those in your excellent analysis.

1. The 2016 cycle is a refutation of career politicians by the people. The only candidates that have traction are Outsiders. Look how quickly Trump ripped through 16 competitors, and how handily Sanders overshadowed Hillary. That gives Jill Stein an unprecedented opportunity that could only occur this year. (This trend may have a global reach. The Brexit vote is one example.)

2. Speaking of Brexit, another phenomenon is the failure of polling due to public deception. The Brexit vote flew under the radar because the polls missed, and shocked everyone. Pundits have failed as well, unable to predict what the voters will do next. I get the sense that voters have been lying to political pollsters. There's a kind of contempt toward politics, and there's great fear of possible repercussions, too. There are very few yard signs in the nation; hardly any bumper stickers. It's the year of rebellion.

3. People seem to be unaffiliated, even Party members. There's partisan drift. I think Trump's support has less to do with Republicans than the spirit of anti-establishmentarianism. And Hillary's support has less to do with Democrats than it does the massive propaganda of fear. Thr Elites and Neocons are not the only voters crossing over the phony divide.

It's very hard to predict the turnout, but in 2016 I don't think it matters either way. It's easier perhaps to predict the winner. Scientists in the prediction business are doing so.

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Donald Trump is not an accident.

It’s tempting to see Trump’s rise as something sui generis: something so bizarre, so linked to his own celebrity, that it could never be repeated. Yet it is being repeated: Throughout the Western world, far-right populists are rising in the polls.

Remember this article that Hecate referenced in another essay?

The social and political scientists explain why

Trumpism, in other words, is much bigger than Trump.

Is long, but well worth the study.

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/19/12933072/far-right-white-riot-trump-brexit

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There’s an underlying theme that it is good and just, or at least inevitable, that white people lose power forever, even in their own “national homelands.”

There’s a Rainbow gonna righteously ride roughshod over white people’s defensiveness now, because history — genocide, slavery, imperialism, discrimination, so “tough sh—.”

Also taking to the max a certain idea that restricting people from migrating and voting is illegitimate because countries and borders don’t “really” exist, only humans do, etc.

That analysis came across to me as going too far in letting the Western elites with their neoconservative war policies and neoliberal economics off the hook.


The quiet desperation of millennials

The goal of the neoliberal consensus is to manage the decline

The U.S. edges dangerously close to war with Russia: what you aren’t being told

Right now in Germany, the only systematic critique of current foreign policy and economic policy is coming from the populist Right. What good is a Social Democratic party, a Green party or a Left party that no longer represent systemic reform, only packages representing the most minor of tweaks?

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…in the US. A faction of the right. But that faction always finds its way onto the Presidential ticket. The foreign wars are the root of US social problems from cop killers to austerity. I'm single issue, that way: Overpopulation and War. Fix those you don't have any problems. Your species is dead if you don't.

The right has a pathway to that. The Left doesn't. But that's all they have. The rest is complete bunk. I don't care. Voting should be like a buffet, where you take a little of this and some of that. This forced democracy stinks. Humans are too complex for democracy's tyranny.

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It doesn't sound like you actually read the whole article. The social and political scientists are the ones that are stressing the racial aspect of this cultural trend (not Hecate.) Per their research, is going on all over the world and our USA election is only one small microcosm of a much bigger phenomenon.

It is a long read, but very eye opening!!

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Couldn't agree more with much of your comment, but I've personally been getting the feeling that the pollsters - like various pundits, corporate and even some once-independent media - have been lying to the voters.

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It's hard to imagine a society where everyone is lying to one another as much as possible. It's like an epidemic. The press, the politicians, and the people lying about the past, the future, and about the reality they live in.

No commonwealth, no trust. It may be a failed state.

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Well, Hillary's campaign is continuing to solidify disgust in every way possible - just found yet another Clinton-sender begging letter in my inbox and had to unsubscribe AGAIN for the dunno how many'th time...

Yesterday, I'd noticed 1 deleted email, don't think I've deleted anything since, although my inbox, to which I pay very little attention, does get a lot of crap mail - now there's 451 in there from deleting all 'Clinton'-sent emails again, as I do every time I notice one... her campaign must be getting desperate to continue to annoy the fuck out of people in their very inboxes after however many repeated unsubscribes, from emails apparently mostly sent by other people/using their email system - or perhaps just mentioning her? Not to mention being stupid enough to keep reminding people about Clinton email deletions! ROFLMAO

Of course they'll rig the General - but I very much doubt that they'll be able to make it look remotely plausible, so that concerted mass protests, lawsuits and objections could prevent her from actually cheating her way into public office and the world into WW3 under corporate management.

And I'll bet that there will be a lot more actual Green votes than admitted, and probably far more than will be counted, I'm afraid.

Indies are the largest voting group, after all. They alone could win an honestly run election, hands down - and hopefully without police bullet holes.

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is at this moment treading very close to the edge of war with Russia. Irresponsibly, dangerously, and IMO ignorantly so. Obama and his advisors have somehow convinced themselves that they will win a game of chicken with Putin. That "calling his bluff" is a sensible strategy. They are probably wrong on both counts, but they are willing to put the entire world in mortal peril in order to prove themselves right. This is more than just hubris, it's the kind of brinkmanship that approaches insanity.

Hillary Clinton is cut from the same Neocon cloth as they, or worse. America-uber-alles is clearly the name of her game, and she is an extremely competitive (though not particularly skillful) player. She shows every sign of upping Obama's possibly suicidal ante.

Trump is... well, who knows what the hell Trump really is? Aside from his being a career con artist, a boor, an habitual liar, a male chauvinist, and a xenophobe? He says he will seek a rapprochement with Russia. But he says a lot of things that are simply not so. Voting for Trump is like buying a pig in a poke.

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... Voting for Trump is like buying a pig in a poke.

Add 'politician-buying-sociopathic-billionaire-wishing-to-cut-out-middle-management' to that 'pig in a poke', and you'll have the most accurate description ever!

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The woman is covered in blood and sorrow.

She's a sure thing.

Perhaps that is what Americans feel they deserve.

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Remember when the MSM started calling Hillary the "presumptive nominee" before the California primary, after they'd been going after Bernie for weeks, insisting that he couldn't win and needed to withdraw?

Sounds like they're one step away from declaring her the "presumptive president". I wonder if the gaslighting psyops will work this time?

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