NEW Guccifer 2.0 Leak and NEW Assange Interview
Submitted by Writerinres on Tue, 10/04/2016 - 4:09pm
This just in, ye of little faith:
Today, in an interview, Julian Assange signaled to the Australian Broadcasting System that WikiLeaks will release around One Million documents before the U.S. election.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-04/assange-signals-wikileaks-release-...
AND:
Guccifer 2.0 has a massive leak for us. Included are juicy tidbits like the following, among others:
"pay to play"
"Intern sandbox"
"fundraising"
"Large contributions"
"Philadelphia"
http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/guccifer-2-0-leak-cf-10416/
Comments
I wonder
what exactly they are waiting for
“The first duty of a man is to think for himself”
Good question
Let's see if the results justify all the hype.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
I KNOW, right?
I keep saying, IF Assange could have released something damaging during the primary, I wish he would have. I know the stuff has to be reviewed, etc., so I emphasize "if."
Thanks Wikileaks
from jackpineradicals
from RT
Whoop! Are you kidding? No, the names are on a spreadsheet in a folder called "pay to play", it starts:
Barney Frank
Barney Frank
Barney Frank
Barney Frank
Barney Frank
... etc..
no kidding!
lmao
Thanks.
Why wait this long?
Feels like it's too late to make a difference in the election.
Unless, Assange is delaying it to make it more explosive, and give the Clintons & Co. no time to defend? But then that's expecting the media to really cover the release.
Sorry, but my cynicism is blocking my positive expectations.
I agree with Caerus
Why wait so long? If they have information that will damage Hillary, then they should have released it before she became the nominee and we'd be seeing Bernie take on DT.
After all Bernie had a better chance of winning against him then Hillary does.
If the information is as bad as people keep hinting at, then the votes might not have been so close that Hillary and the DNC couldn't have stolen the election.
And for how many months have we been told that they have information about Hillary that could see her go to prison if the DOJ had the guts to charge her? When it was apparent that she was going to walk, then that's when they should have released it.
I'm thinking that they don't have anything.
I enjoy reading comments on other websites.
One person wrote "can't we just drone her "?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
There was enough to send her
There was enough to send her to prison some time ago - unfortunately the guy running the FBI and the Justice Department have proved to be just as terrorized/corrupted as the State Dept. and much of everything else in the US government. Not to mention the to-be majority-corrupt Supreme Court. If it ain't Bernie, I don't trust 'em.
Never vote for (more and worse) evil, because it always is, isn't it, having been given yet another chance to grow?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
It's not only the FBI who is corrupt or terrorized
Congress doesn't need the FBI or the DOJ to investigate whether Hillary committed perjury or the other issues that Chavez (? The guy from Utah) wants them to look into.
Congress has the power to bring impeachment proceedings against Hillary already and charge her with perjury.
It's more kabuki bullshit that they are doing for their rubes to send it back to the two agencies that have already decided not to charge her.
As someone pointed out, there's 4-5 states in play that will decide the election.
The whole long campaigns for president is a distraction, IMO to keep people and the media focused on it and ignoring what else is happening around the world. Especially the wars, the protests and the others important issues no one is reporting on.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Good points, (as usual)
Good points, (as usual) although I must have badly phrased that first bit addressed, as I meant the lot of them.
I'm wondering if this investigation is also intended/being used to rehabilitate the Repubs reputation, reframe them as suddenly actually useful in some fashion... just in time for the corporations to directly take over and do away with actual/even poorly faked democratic governance.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Chaffetz
http://chaffetz.house.gov/
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
?
Can someone be impeached when not in office?
The hacking of the primary
required herculean effort. In some states Bernie won by over 80%. They were unhacked states. How embarrassing. They were doing so badly they had to become obvious in their rigging.
In the democratic nation I used to live in, there is sufficient evidence for prosecution. But now, we're in the twilight zone.
You are so right.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Yep,
The columns are: Member, Bank, Amount, Tarp Funds
Barney Frank Bank of America $17,000.00 $15,000,000,000.00
Barney Frank Bank of New York Mellon $2,000.00 $3,000,000,000.00
Barney Frank Capital One $6,000.00 $3,555,199,000.00
Barney Frank Citigroup $7,500.00 $25,000,000,000.00
Barney Frank Fifth Third $2,000.00 $3,408,000,000.00
Barney Frank Goldman Sachs $10,000.00 $10,000,000,000.00
Barney Frank Huntington Bancshares $1,000.00 $1,398,071,000.00
Barney Frank JP Morgan $10,000.00 $25,000,000,000.00
Barney Frank KeyCorp $2,500.00 $2,500,000,000.00
Barney Frank Merril Lynch $2,000.00 $10,000,000,000.00
Barney Frank Morgan Stanley $10,000.00 $10,000,000,000.00
Barney Frank Wells Fargo $7,000.00 $25,000,000,000.00
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
"Donations"
In the old days, they were called 'kickbacks'.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I'm done with the wikileaks rumors
It's not necessarily Assange's fault. People want to believe there's something extra dramatic in there but we've already seen so much and it's had no effect.
The people don't care. Their circuits blew awhile back.
No matter what is leaked, ever, it will have no legs. It's just noise. Hillary is the only candidate the Establishment and the Neocons have. They won't let anything touch her. They need to get her back inside the White House, lock it down, put up an impenetrable legal barrier to Third parties and Outsider candidates, and reinstate the coma. My guess.
____________________
The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
That's exactly what they wanted.
To make it just noise people wouldn't pay attention to.
oOh. Right you are, Al.
That's just what's happening.
____________________
The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
The people care, but they see
that Hillary, like all Clintons, will be held accountable for exactly nothing.
Of such stuff are violent political movements made.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Really?! The DNC looks a bit different post-Assange imo n/t
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
I'd disagree about the DNC
DWS is out but was, as you know, immediately put in a leadership role in Hillary's campaign so Debbie is still there causing mischief.
She was replaced, for the time being, by Donna Brazile, another typical Dem operative, Hillbot extraordinaire.
So the face changed but the effect is negligible.
It's had no effect because
It's had no effect because the major (corporate) parties in government are corrupt beyond redemption - and without Wikileaks, would we have any idea of how bad things are? This should be giving people the impetus to at least not vote for the corporate/billionaire and TPP supporting candidates in order to vote non-corporate Green for survival chances, and if people can't get this because there's 'been so much information about corruption that it's just noise' then WTF's wrong with those people?
This involves their last pacific, political chance at democracy, their own lives and rights, those of their families and friends, of humanity and of life on the planet - and if that is something they'll still vote against to vote for those who will sell them off to be squeezed, industrially poisoned and worked to death for peanut shells under offshored corporate for-profit-only law while life and oxygen production on Earth perishes within decades for maximized corporate/billionaire profits under corporate law, we're toast.
Where, BTW, are all of the Republicans screaming for their freedumbs over the TPP corporate coup illegally and unconstitutionally offshoring their domestic law to 'legally' and unstoppably sue their inalienable rights and protections away, as some were over never-appearing seizures of their guns, or were those all paid NRA trolls?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
The only Republicans protesting the TPP corporate coup are Tea
Partiers whom the Fortune 500 Repubs are having a hard time shutting up. Trump speaks for these RW populists and it seems that they are the source of his success, such as it is.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
I think the leaks aren't having the effect
We wish for. I do think as the magnitude of all this dirty dealing makes its way into public knowledge and people have time to think about it, it will have an effect. I don't mean on this farcical "election". I think it will take a while.
The problem is, the in-the-bag-for-Clinton MSM
refuses to deal with any of this. It's all Trump taxation all the time.
There's nary a word about anything with regard to Clinton. The condescending 'basement dwellers' speech/audio hasn't received a word in the local rag.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Trump will use it like a bludgeon.
The MSM will have to deal with it until ....look squirrel!
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Reports now that Guccifer Files are fake
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/299236-alleged-guccifer-20-hack-...
No, just no CF files,
a bunch of VA Dem Party files, McAuliffe may be further implicated. Or someone hacked Guccifer 2.0, or he made it up. No one is screaming fake yet.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Yeah, they're claiming it's the Russians out to screw up the
election.
Them damn Rooskies.
And they didn't say 'fake'. they said 'appears to be a hoax'.
We'll see.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
The Clinton Foundation's president,
Donna Shalala, denied that the foundation had been hacked in a Twitter post:
2:12 PM - 4 Oct 2016
https://twitter.com/DonnaShalala/status/783414514259636224?ref_src=twsrc...
Right...and I know that my home hasn't been robbed because law enforcement hasn't notified us of such a thing. Because that's how it works. #snark
The people, united, will never be defeated.
LOL! That's how Hillary knew her server wasn't hacked.
Only wiped...like with a cloth.
I, for one, hate a dusty server!
Sure.
I'm certain the majority of the American people who are even paying attention to all this will find The Hill way more trustworthy than a hacker calling himself Guccifer 2.
Oh, wait. No they don't.
Anything identifying itself as some kind of professional DC journalistic organ devoted to covering Capitol Hill is going to have a hard time proving that a hacker devoted to embarrassing the DNC is a hoax and his documents fake. Even if it were true, too much bad faith has been built up. If the DC establishment--politicians, pundits, media, and K St--told the American people the freaking sun was going to come up tomorrow, everybody would get up at 5:30 to check.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Pointless
All these leaks are pointless. Who hears about them outside of the people already not voting for her? Who in the broken justice system that will never prosecute her will ever try to change that who actually has the power to effect that change? Who in the MSM, all of whom are a part of the establishment, will talk about it so those who support her unquestioningly will hear?
Truth is never pointless,
Truth is never pointless, especially in such cases as this.
And change must come from the bottom, from the people who have seen and lived the truth and are willing to fight as their forefathers did, but now not merely for justice and democracy/civilization, but for the continued existence of life itself.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
In theory, they at least affect the zeitgeist. Or something.
And they may strengthen the resolve of those who are not voting for her or be the straw that breaks the camel's back for some who plan to vote for her. Unless the leaks make people vote for her or have some other effect deleterious to the left, meh.
I think it's really bad to pour cold water on hackers, leakers,
and whistleblowers (all of which are distinct entities), or to treat their work like it's insignificant. Obviously, the establishment doesn't think it's insignificant, or they wouldn't get so riled.
However--
To say that the establishment would like us to view Wikileaks with jaundiced scorn is an understatement.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I'm not dismissing the efforts
I just find it pointless as nothing will really come about as a result of them. If this was a typical election, it'd probably be very significant, and the MSM may actually be more than eager to talk about the stuff for ratings. But the person being discussed is Clinton, and anything that could actually damage her odds isn't going to be discussed outside of the groups of people who already know the truth.
I get you.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The important thing now is, teach the children and young people
we come in contact with what we know.
Our fellow citizens on the Right do this by home schooling and so forth.
Are we ready to explain to young people that the system doesn’t deserve their loyalty and why this is so? Can kids absorb what we’re saying and seeing, from us the older generations who witnessed how the system lost what legitimacy it had?
teaching "the subjugated truth"
I did watch the video part of Assange at the end but wow it is hard for me to listen. I skipped a lot. One part I sorta got was his spiel on the three truths, and what he sees his part is in revealing "the subjugated". Now, it is up to everyone else if they read and discuss it becomes part of true history and no longer subjugated (to the main stream power elites or whoever). Right? I could be wrong.
Truth & Solidarity
Home schooling, church, youth camps and groups and scouts.
What have Democrats done to construct a comparable infrastructure, outside the black community's churches and groups? Not a lot. They do have Young Democrats in colleges to counter the Young Republicans, but I don't know of much else.
Republican women, like Barbara Bush, even write pre-school books. I have never read one, but I assume there is a bit of subtle propaganda in them. And churches send people to teach classes in public schools in the South for no money.
Maybe we* need some secular clubs and youth groups. I don't know about the pre-school books. Getting published in that field is not that easy if you are not already published or a celebrity whose name alone will attract buyers.
*ETA: By we, I mean leftists, not Democrats doing Democratic Party stuff.
You are absolutely right, this has been a crying need for 25
years, and little has been done in this area.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Given my view of New Democrats, maybe it's just as well
that this crying need of the Democratic Party, now the New Democrat Party, remains unmet. /smile
Unfortunately, it's the crying need of
everybody else, too. What can you do.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I no longer think everyone has a crying need for more Democrats.
God, no.
No more Democrats!
No more Republicans either.
The building of political , cultural, social infrastructure--that's the crying need.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
LOL!
Can you think of any way to start local clubs for adults or youth groups or Young 99% groups in colleges?
We don't need to invent the wheel. We have models. We need implementation.
OK.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Do you have any thoughts on the subject, or know of any how-to
materials on this?
(Sorry, I was not sure what your reply to my question meant.)
Are You Kidding? The Corporate Media Is Completely a New
Democrat institution.
Completely. All American kids are being raised on this crap.
It makes homeschooling, church groups, and scouts, look like boy scouts and grassroots organizations.
Democrats clearly believe the corporate media.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
What is he waiting for? The Rapture?
I hope he isn't just flashing ankle. He must be bored out of his mind in the embassy. I don't think he's even been able to walk across the street in years.
Julian, don't go breaking our hearts!
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