The 2nd Debate is taking questions from the Public. This one could change things.

So I registered at https://presidentialopenquestions.com/ and asked this question. I hope we can get a million people or so to vote for the question I submitted. I know dip about social media and youtubing and whatnot, but I think this is a question that, if asked in public, changes a lot of public discussion.

The Question (at https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/9910/vote/#created=9910)

Will you keep the crackpot militarists out of your administration?

You get 200 characters for setting up the question, so I wrote:

15 years of military aggression and meddling has supercharged the growth of terrorism, led to a million deaths, and made tens of millions refugees living in fear. We paid trillions for this result.

I dunno. There's a hell of a lot that we don't discuss in our Free Press, but the inarguably self-defeating, in fact, suicidal, military aggression we've worked against humanity abroad, with loss of security and rights at home, —is huge. It impacts every other single issue we face in one way or another.

It was C. Wright Mills who wrote over 60 years ago about the birthing Dr Strangelovian tendencies of the day who said it best (https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/C._Wright_Mills):

For the first time in American history, men in authority are talking about an 'emergency' without a foreseeable end,...Such men as these are crackpot realists: in the name of realism they have constructed a paranoid reality all their own.

The crackpot paranoids -- the neocons, the liberal interventionists -- are no longer budding, they pull the strings on our foreign policy. Only widespread suffering, misery, death, and terror can follow.

Maybe if my question can be asked in public, we'd have a "King is Naked" moment in our politics. I hope you will vote for my question being asked of the candidates, and you will do what you can to urge others to vote for it.
Thank you.

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Bollox Ref's picture

Basements are notorious for damp. Especially a toilet.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

as, in essence, "how many more crazy wars do you plan on considering"? Please register at the link above, and vote for my question; even propose your own as well.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

Bollox Ref's picture

Yours is definitely worth voting for.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

I rather suspect that this is pre-stage 'business' in the theatrical sense and that the questions 'from the public' will still be scripted to suit the corporate candidate - probably related to Trump's taxes and his hair, and something enabling Hillary to polish her 'protect-corporate profiteering under the name of 'spreading democracy' credentials - but we'll see.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

hellinahandcart's picture

selling to Boris Badenov? Will you call and harass Natasha at all hours of the night? Are you okay w/ us calling the Clinton/Kaine campaign, "Moose and Squirrel?"

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Shockwave's picture

She has to prove her manliness.

What is wrong with one more war?

/snark

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The political revolution continues

MsGrin's picture

it'll be a GOOD one (one that keeps on giving). My money's on Iran.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Bisbonian's picture

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

Thaumlord-Exelbirth's picture

Side bet of military actions against Russia in the first year.

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riverlover's picture

No, it's just beginning to boil. She is still pulling neocon strings NOW. And she will be elected only by crook.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

is what I read somewhere as being on the Clinton hit list.

Eritrea, the little country that could which doesn't accept foreign aid and which kicked out a passel of NGOs, and which is a standing insult to all the humanitarian interventionist careerists who want to add "service" in Africa to their resumes. Apparently any criminal or terrorist can be admitted into European countries if he says he is a refugee from Eritrea, so the reports of Eritreans behaving badly in European countries can be taken with a bit of salt. There probably are some, but a lot more came from somewhere else.

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Mary Bennett

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npzN3dZR6JM]

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpDqMWhkEm8]

Then again, maybe killing brown and beige people is funny part. Hard to tell, since I never got the joke.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtH7iv4ip1U]

Not to worry though. PBS's recent Hillary 2016 infommercial documentary on Hillary and Trump rationalized away Hillary's bizarre habit of laughing maniacally at killing Middle Easterners. As I recall, it's because she is so "invested." Probably in more ways than one. Heck, you have to park those hundreds of millions somewhere. It may as well be with in the MIC.

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Reposting this, as it needs to be seen. Ideally, the article should be read in full at source, if whatever device used permits this being done.

http://truepundit.com/under-intense-pressure-to-silence-wikileaks-secret...

Under Intense Pressure to Silence Wikileaks, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Proposed Drone Strike on Julian Assange
Posted on October 2, 2016 by admin

...Clinton’s State Department was getting pressure from President Obama and his White House inner circle, as well as heads of state internationally, to try and cutoff Assange’s delivery of the cables and if that effort failed, then to forge a strategy to minimize the administration’s public embarrassment over the contents of the cables. Hence, Clinton’s early morning November meeting of State’s top brass who floated various proposals to stop, slow or spin the Wikileaks contamination. That is when a frustrated Clinton, sources said, at some point blurted out a controversial query.

“Can’t we just drone this guy?” Clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence Assange and smother Wikileaks via a planned military drone strike, according to State Department sources. The statement drew laughter from the room which quickly died off when the Secretary kept talking in a terse manner, sources said. Clinton said Assange, after all, was a relatively soft target, “walking around” freely and thumbing his nose without any fear of reprisals from the United States. Clinton was upset about Assange’s previous 2010 records releases, divulging secret U.S. documents about the war in Afghanistan in July and the war in Iraq just a month earlier in October, sources said. At that time in 2010, Assange was relatively free and not living cloistered in in the embassy of Ecuador in London. Prior to 2010, Assange focused Wikileaks’ efforts on countries outside the United States but now under Clinton and Obama, Assange was hammering America with an unparalleled third sweeping Wikileaks document dump in five months. Clinton was fuming, sources said, as each State Department cable dispatched during the Obama administration was signed by her. ...

The list of examples given (at source) which follows is of great interest, although I'd say that attempting to rehome the poor guys in Gitmo was humanitarian and laudable. Not to mention, the least that could be done.

...Following Clinton’s alleged drone proposal, another controversial remedy was floated in the State Department to place a reward or bounty for Assange’s capture and extradition to the United States, sources said. Numbers were discussed in the realm of a $10 million bounty. A State Department source described that staff meeting as bizarre. One minute staffers were inquiring about the Secretary’s blue and black checkered knit sweater and the next minute, the room was discussing the legalities of a drone strike on Assange and financial bounties, sources said.

Immediately following the conclusion of the wild brainstorming session, one of Clinton’s top aides, State Department Director of Policy Planning Ann-Marie Slaughter, penned an email to Clinton, Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, and aides Huma Abebin and Jacob Sullivan at 10:29 a.m. entitled “an SP memo on possible legal and nonlegal strategies re Wikileaks.”

“Nonlegal strategies.” How did that phrasing make it into an official State Department email subject line dealing with solving Wikileaks and Assange? Why would the secretary of state and her inner circle be discussing any “nonlegal strategies” for anything whatsoever? Against anyone? Shouldn’t all the strategies discussed by the country’s top diplomat be strictly legal only? And is the email a smoking gun to confirm Clinton was actually serious about pursuing an obvious “nonlegal strategy” proposal to allegedly assassinate Assange? Numerous attempts were made to try and interview and decipher Slaughter’s choice of email wording, however, she could not be reached for comment. Insiders said Slaughter is keeping a “low profile” in Princeton, NJ until she is nominated for a position in Clinton’s cabinet if the Democrat is elected in November. Likewise, True Pundit attempted to contact Mills, Abedin, and Sullivan for their perspectives on this story. None commented on the record.

(Please, if possible, see email communication copied at source)

Regarding the following, it seems that all Hillary knew were that her activities needed to be covered up because of generic rules/laws which shouldn't apply to Her, so it's possible that such rules/laws/agreements/ were ignored so thoroughly that she actually doesn't recall what they were, never having bothered to learn more than that such impediments existed for other people.

...Slaughter’s cryptic email also contained an attached document called “SP Wikileaks doc final11.23.10.docx.” That attachment portion of Slaughter’s “nonlegal strategies” email has yet to be recovered by federal investigators and House committee investigators probing Clinton’s email practices while at State. Even Wikileaks does not have the document. Slaughter, however, shed some light on the attachment: “The result is the attached memo, which has one interesting legal approach and I think some very good suggestions about how to handle our public diplomacy.”

But did it also include details on the “nonlegal strategies” teased in the subject line?

Sources confirm Clinton took the email and attachment with her to the White House for an afternoon meeting with Secretary of Defense Bob Gates and National Security Advisor Tom Donilon prior to an additional evening meeting at the White House. President Obama, sources said, did not attend the early meeting with Gates as he was traveling with Vice President Joe Biden. President Obama did attend the second meeting, however, and Wikileaks and Assange’s planned release of secret cables were discussed at length, sources said. Attending this meeting were President Obama, Clinton, Gates, Donilon, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Michele Flournoy, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral “Mike” Mullen, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. James Cartwright as well as a half dozen or more various policy aides, sources confirmed.

Did Clinton also share her alleged morning query of droning Assange with the members of the National Security Council and the President? Was it discussed among the top secret subjects in the meeting? Or was Clinton planning to conduct or hatch her own secret foreign policy in defiance of the President, a likely violation of the Logan Act?

Personally, I immediately wondered if that first meeting which the President was unable to attend was perhaps timed for this purpose. It's known that Obama has tried to tone down some of the worst of Hillary's excesses as Secretary of State.

Now, almost six years after allegedly threatening to assassinate Julian Assange, some former State Department personnel believe perhaps Clinton’s comments were an attempt at brevity or humor by the former secretary of state, sources said. But since when is Clinton known for her beaming sense of humor and wit? Joking or not, is it appropriate for the top diplomat of the United States to even jest about droning the Wikileaks founder, largely considered an international journalist and whistle blower? State Department personnel would not talk on the record about the Assange meetings or Clinton’s comments. But sources familiar with the meeting said their recollections were jarred again by a recently released report from the FBI’s July interview with Clinton where she acknowledged a penchant for discussing drone strikes to eliminate troublesome foes.

Was/were Hillary Clinton/her paymasters responsible for some/much of the drone program killing so many innocents, with Obama talking responsibility for such appalling and destructive war-crimes, much as a foreign leader was willing to do, according to an item on an above-referenced list of Wiki-leak subjects, available at source?

The FBI’s 302 report from Clinton’s email investigation interview, again, specified that Clinton had “many discussions” related to “nominating” drone strikes on individuals:

“Clinton could not recall a specific process for nominating a target for a drone strike and recalled much debate pertaining to the concurrence process. Clinton knew there was a role for DOD, State and the CIA but could not provide specifics as to what it was. Due to a disagreement between these agencies, Clinton recalled having many discussions related to nominating an individual for a drone strike. When Clinton exchanged classified information pertaining to the drone program internally at State, it was in her office or on a secure call. When Clinton exchanged classified information pertaining to the drone program externally it was at the White House. Clinton never had a concern with how classified information pertaining to the drone program was handled.”

Sources said Clinton’s comments on neutralizing Assange fits a pattern of callousness when combined with the FBI testimony that she often considered droning individuals and then coupled with her reaction to Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi’s death in Oct. 2011.

Gaddafi was tortured and killed, largely due to Clinton’s maneuvering in the Middle East and Libya. During a sit down interview with CBS News, a Clinton aide notified the room during a taping break of news reports that Gaddafi had been dragged throughout the streets of Libya and ultimately killed. Unaware the camera was still rolling, a jovial and proud Clinton pronounced: “We came. We saw. He died.” This was Clinton’s initial response to the dictator’s demise. A cackling Clinton was then joined in laughter by the CBS correspondent and off-camera aides and staff. Again, more proof of a disturbing habit of treating human life as a disposable commodity like a soiled diaper. ...

This psychopathic individual has no place in public policy, or in any position where she has the ability to harm others.

Please, ensure that this tendency is made known before the Clintons are in any position to casually remove any large sections of the American population which they may find objectionable.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

mimi's picture

may be it would cause some stir. But I would guess it won't be without consequences to yourself.
I would be scared.

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Like they would actually take questions from the public. "here is the number one question form the public. Secretary clinton, what do you feel is the most challenging thing about being a grandmother while running for president?"

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Deja's picture

I simply have to have one of their ceiling-breaking creations!"

Lol! Biggrin

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use American designers? How about American manufacturers, do you buy from them?

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Mary Bennett

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MsGrin's picture

Like they would actually take questions from the public.

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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member

Shahryar's picture

aren't those who run the campaigns also private citizens? So then they could be called "the public".

By that I mean I would expect the questions to come from the campaigns. Not necessarily directly. Probably through intermediaries.

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Exactly what I was thinking.

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maybe a lot more, depends on the public acknowledgement that our aggression is cutting our own throats. One way or another this has to break into the mainstream, and immediately. The US is already announcing they are now exploring the military options in Syria; as if those options mean anything other than a shooting war with Russia and handing Syria over to jihadis.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

...The US is already announcing they are now exploring the military options in Syria; as if those options mean anything other than a shooting war with Russia and handing Syria over to jihadis.

Not deliberately, if the jihadis might interfere with the prospective theft of the oil and natural gas discovered due to a Syrian agreement with a Russian company uncovering large reserves... but yeah, will probably will happen anyway.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Boaty McBoaty and how many recent species named after Colbert?

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There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.

Flyswatterbanjo's picture

Even better, no?

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Secretary Clinton: "Why do you always wear such long coats over your trousers? Are you hiding something? Especially the one you wore at a recent fundraiser with the potholder pockets.

Secretary Clinton: "What are your 5 most important accomplishments in the past 8 years?"

As this is all a stupid game, gaming the public, why not have fun with it Smile

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with Russia and ain't nobody having fun after that.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

mimi's picture

like war and social injustice. That's why.

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Edit: I guess I should add, I don't really believe that she's be accepting any questions of any real merit, like the one you submitted.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

That's why I hope it goes viral, somehow. Have the stunning reality that our militarism has completely failed break into the public conversation, have everyone pushing on 'why continue this way?"

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

karl pearson's picture

You're up to 13 votes now. There was one question that has received over 4,000 votes regarding care for veterans. That will be a softball for both Clinton and Trump. I'm not saying that's not an important question, but we've heard the answer a zillion times already. If there weren't stupid wars, there wouldn't have to be so much care for our vets. I'm sure the vets would like that too.

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Pricknick's picture

said we would be out of Iraq, Afghanistan and he would close gitmo.
They can ask your question but could you see the fingers crossed behind their backs?

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

reflectionsv37's picture

Sadly, it's a hurricane named Matthew that is going to close it.

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush

Alex Ocana's picture

Since Matthew passed over my home the other day I have been following it as it marches accross the Caribbean...and ran into the article that mentioned Guantanamo as being evacuated. I hope the damn hurricane does at least some good by blowing away all the suburban houses, Mickie D's etc. and floods out the military's hurrican proof bunkers. Haiti looks like it is being hurt again Sad

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From the Light House.

featheredsprite's picture

Wouldn't that be a shame?

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

Mark from Queens's picture

its members what their most important single issue was, for the purpose of submitting to the new president an impressive roll call of concerns from his volunteers and activists?

I remember quite seriously looking over that list for 20 minutes. There were many issues I could have said topped my list. But I could not ignore the proverbial elephant in the room. Money In Politics or Campaign Finance superceded all.

Apparently most folks agreed. It topped the list.

The list was then submitted, and was promptly ignored.

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

Thaumlord-Exelbirth's picture

Why do you think we should ally ourselves with child raping terrorist supporters that want to destroy all our other allies, like Israel? Sorry, I meant to ask why we should ally ourselves with Saudi Arabia.

I don't think anything will change at all. The questions will be screened thoroughly for anything that can make Trump look bad and Hillary look good. It's amazing how difficult it is for them to do both of those things already.

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riverlover's picture

Only questions that cleave a difference between the two candidates will be allowed. Probably would not be about net worth.

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

It was pretty obvious that Holt only asked questions about Trump negatives and none of Hellery's.

But ok, for fun, let's PRETEND Team Hellery is not approving all debate questions ahead of time.

Question: Mrs Clinton which Middle East nations, in addition to Iran, are you planning to attack on day one?

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

TPTB will most likely choose the bland, adoring ones that will keep people zombified. For example: "Cats or dogs?" "Favorite ice cream flavor?" "Does Bill put the toilet seat down?" "Did you ever actually bake cookies?"

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