Open Thread - Wednesday November 4, 2015

Good Morning, 99%'ers!

I was expecting to be traveling today, heading south to Florida for my 50th high school reunion. Instead, we decided to leave a day early because my husband had some business he needed to take care of today. Because of this and my own procrastination, this open thread diary is being constructed on the fly. Today's diary is a personal one.

As of Tuesday night, we are now in Tallahassee, but will head down to St. Petersburg for my high school reunion on Friday. We have the three dogs and will board them in a nearby kennel that we have used for a long time. Then onward to the reunion.

I have mixed emotions every time I go back for these reunions but I continue to go. Every time, I say that it will be my last one, but when the next one rolls around, I give into a combination of peer pressure and of curiosity. But for the 50th, I realized that I should make every effort to attend.

So what is it that makes me hesitant? First and foremost, I do not like reminiscing. And this is probably the biggest drawback for these things. It is the same with almost any get together. I prefer to live in the here and now and look toward tomorrow rather than looking to the past. This is a strange contradiction for someone (me) who enjoys history and feels we can learn from the past. Otherwise, it is the painful remembrances of being a geeky teenager when geeky was not cool.

My graduating class had nearly five hundred graduates. We have lost 55 that we know of and another 65 have not been located. Still as of last count, we will have 126 of us plus our significant others attending. To me, the sheer number is amazing. We will have a social get together on Friday night and then on Saturday night, we will have a dinner and dance. In between, there are other events.

The one event I am most looking forward to is on Saturday morning when anyone who is interested will be able to tour St. Petersburg High School, which we all called St. Pete High. St. Pete High dates back to 1898 and the current building was constructed in 1926. It is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. It still looks the same on the outside, but it will be interesting to see what it looks like inside.

Back when I attended St. Pete High, we were known for having great teams in two sports, basketball and track. St. Pete High had a wonderful football/track facility on site which is still used today. But our basketball facility was unique. We played our home games on the auditorium stage which also functioned as a full size basketball court. The stage was three feet off the ground and was so big that there was even seating for some spectators on it for the basketball games. I have never seen anything else like it and wonder if they still use the stage for basketball games.

And so I will return just as I have for everyone of these every ten years. And many of my class mates who have not attended previous reunions are also returning. And as much as I hate nostalgia, maybe I might even get a little bit nostalgic this coming weekend too.

I have not had time to read all the posts here in the last two days, so if I repeat any news items that were previously posted, I apologize in advance.

Generally, I avoid partisan political news items for my open threads, but this one seemed worth linking. Apparently, socialism is not a dirty word to grassroots Democrats.

 Yet even as the Democratic Party tended to grow more cautious, a substantial portion of the party’s base continued to embrace Harrington’s left wing of the possible. In the upper Midwest, activists warmly embraced Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone, who talked up the uniquely radical legacy of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor party, and Iowa Senator Tom Harkin’s pro-labor, pro-farmer prairie populism. Wellstone and Harkin didn’t identify as democratic socialists, but they kept alive an old-school progressive-populist sensibility. More recently, Sanders, their friend and frequent ally, has returned that sensibility to center stage with bolder language and bolder plans for ending austerity, taxing the rich, and tipping the balance in favor of working Americans.

A worldwide ban on fracking? A coalition of activists is calling for exactly that. One can always hope that real visionary leadership will speak louder than dirty money.

In Washington, D.C., activists planned to deliver the letter as part of a rally staged outside the White House.

"President Obama should go to Paris as a real Climate Leader in Chief," said Wenonah Hauter, executive director of Food & Water Watch. "The only way he can show true and necessary leadership during the negotiations next month is to stop facilitating the greenwashing of fracking and to do everything in his power to move our nation quickly towards a renewable and energy efficient future."

Organizations in a total of 63 countries are preparing for similar actions, collectively referred to as the Global Frackdown to Paris.

Here's an interesting article on the red baiting of the science of climate change.

In the late 1970s, scientists first came to a consensus that global warming was likely to result from increasing greenhouse gases released by the burning of fossil fuels. This idea had been around since the turn of the century, but the development of computer models made it possible to make quantitative predictions. Almost immediately, a small group of politically connected and conservative scientists began to question this consensus. As empirical scientific data mounted up, their attacks became more unprincipled. These conservative scientists used data selectively and often misrepresented the conclusions of many studies undertaken by the scientific community.

This article links climate change with global unrest and wars, a topic that has received very little attention.

The IPCC report, however, suggested that global warming would have devastating impacts of a social and political nature as well, including economic decline, state collapse, civil strife, mass migrations, and sooner or later resource wars.

These predictions have received far less attention, and yet the possibility of such a future should be obvious enough since human institutions, like natural systems, are vulnerable to climate change. Economies are going to suffer when key commodities - crops, timber, fish, livestock - grow scarcer, are destroyed, or fail. Societies will begin to buckle under the strain of economic decline and massive refugee flows. Armed conflict may not be the most immediate consequence of these developments, the IPCC notes, but combine the effects of climate change with already existing poverty, hunger, resource scarcity, incompetent and corrupt governance, and ethnic, religious, or national resentments, and you're likely to end up with bitter conflicts over access to food, water, land, and other necessities of life.

The subtitle of this article in the Guardian by George Monbiot say it all. Governments are liberating global corporations from the rule of law and leaving them to rip the world apart.

And the financial crisis is just one of the multiple crises – in tax collection, public spending, public health and, above all, ecology – that the same counter-lessons accelerate.

Step back a pace and you see that all these crises arise from the same cause. Players with huge power and global reach are released from democratic restraint. This happens because of a fundamental corruption at the core of politics. In almost every nation the interests of economic elites tend to weigh more heavily with governments than do those of the electorate. Banks, corporations and landowners wield an unaccountable power, which works with a nod and a wink within the political class. Global governance is beginning to look like a never-ending Bilderberg meeting.

I will be in and out much of today, but will check in on a regular basis. Have a great day 99%'ers! Biggrin

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Spokesman of Iraq’s Kata’ib Hezbollah (Hezbollah Battalions) popular forces Jafar al-Hosseini disclosing that captured ISIL leaders have acknowledged receiving logistical backup and intelligence support from the US.
“As the ISIL commanders captured in Iraqi popular forces’ recent military operations have confessed, the US supports for the terrorist groups are not limited to the dispatch of logistical support,” Al-Hosseini told FNA on Sunday.
He reiterated that the US has provided the ISIL with intelligence about the Iraqi forces’ positions and targets.

This is, of course, total bullsh*t. What makes it notable is that our Iraqi Shia militia allies would torture these ISIS prisoners until they confessed to this bullsh*t.
Which begs the question: are these Iranian-sponsored militias preparing for a policy shift against the United States?

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I am so confused by all of this. What a tangled web we weave and who are the real players is anyone's guess. You probably have a better handle on this than any of us, gjohnsit.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Iraq’s Kata’ib Hezbollah were formed in 2006 to fight the American occupation, and are still listed as a terrorist group by the State Department.
So turning on the U.S. would be simply "going back to their roots".

The big problem is that our troops in Anbar are sharing a military base with this militia right now.

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this helps, I think.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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WASHINGTON—Republican presidential candidates Ben Carson, Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush said they would go further than the Obama administration has to stop Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, where U.S. special operations troops are soon headed as part of a major American policy shift. Some Democrats and Republicans are wary about slipping deeper into another Middle Eastern conflict, but Messrs. Carson and Bush said in interviews broadcast on Sunday that they would go beyond the current administration, establishing either a no-fly zone in Syria or a similar “safe zone” to protect opposition forces fighting embattled Syrian ruler Bashar al-Assad, as well as refugees fleeing the conflict. “Look where most of the refugees are, at the Turkey-Syrian border,” said Mr. Carson, a retired neurosurgeon battling Donald Trump at the top of GOP presidential polls, on ABC’s “This Week.” “We should establish a no-fly zone there, and we should enforce it.”

That Syria-Turkish border is also called Syrian Kurdistan, and its the Turkish bombers that are bombing it right now, not Assad.

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Janet Yellen can stay on God’s path by waiting until springtime to raise interest rates, Congressman Brad Sherman told the Federal Reserve chair on Wednesday.

“God’s plan is not for things to rise in the autumn, as a matter of fact, that’s why we call it fall, nor is it God’s plan for things to rise in the winter, through the snow,” Sherman, a Democrat from California, told Yellen at a hearing of the House Financial Services Committee. “God’s plan is that things rise in the spring. And so if you want to be good with the Almighty, you might want to delay until May.”

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really do believe they are 'doing god's work'. Pretty scary that Hillary our next inevitable leader belongs to the Family, Foundation. God's chosen who are destined to rule the world like all good psycho's who want to rule the world believe.

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what the heck?

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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This U.S. earnings season is on track to be the worst since 2009 as profits from oil & gas and commodity-related companies plummet.
So far, about three-quarters of the S&P 500 have reported results, with profits down 3.1 percent on a share-weighted basis, data compiled by Bloomberg shows. This would be the biggest quarterly drop in earnings since the third quarter 2009, and the second straight quarter of profit declines. Earnings growth turned negative for the first time in six years in the second quarter this year.
The damage is the biggest in commodity-related industries, with the energy sector showing a 54 percent drop in quarterly earnings per share so far in the quarter, with profits in the materials sector falling 15 percent.

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Meanwhile, the strong dollar is crushing our manufacturing base.

The U.S. trade deficit in manufacturing hit a record $74.7 billion in September, according to an analysis of new Census Bureau data by RealityChek, a reliable blog on manufacturing and trade. That could become fodder for debate in the presidential election, where candidates have been arguing over the plight of American factory workers.
The swelling of the manufacturing trade deficit is more evidence that while the overall U.S. economy has recovered from the 2007-09 recession, the manufacturing sector continues to lag. While overall employment is up 3 percent since the start of the recession, in December 2007, manufacturing employment is down 10 percent....
The Alliance for American Manufacturing noted that U.S. imports from China hit a record of $45.7 billion in September, and President Scott Paul said the inflow is "killing America's manufacturing recovery."
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I feel safer already.

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A impressive OT despite being written on the fly. I really like the George Monbiot op-ed. It's a great read. His description of the bs. that the rulers of the globalized 'free market' neoliberal world uses to sell their disaster capitalism made me smile 'bunkum with bells on'. Indeed. I really get disturbed when people say this is inevitable and no one can stop it. Seems to me to be the same cowardly bs. that is used by the Hillary supporters. I like the comment threads at The Guardian as they don't seem as defeatist and RW as dkos or the US media sites. Even the Tories are smarter then the cowed US so called centrist moderates.

Hope you have a good time at your reunion. I went to HS here in OR. Lake Oswego High is in a rich upper class suburb that was so white and elitist it got dubbed 'Lake No Negro' in those days. My literature teacher summed it up nicely 'I'm not teaching English Lit I'm babysitting at a country club.' I would never go the class reunion as it was a nightmare to attend LOH. I was not part of the country club cheerleader social clique and the teachers hated my commie liberal ass.

The people I hung with were the artist's and weirdo's who were openly taunted and shunned by the richie rich sociopathic jock/mean girl culture. They like me were glad to get out of town and never look back. They did contact me several years ago and for some reason sent me the monthly paper they put out. The same people as adults looked pretty much the same in the pictures where they we're lounging and socializing at resorts in the Bahamas or drinking gin and tonics on their lake front docks. I put the paper and invites in my spam list. I sometimes drive through the town on my way to my son's house in and it makes me nervous and creeps me out just passing through.

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I, too, hung out with the artists and weirdos...but also the jocks and cheerleaders and math whizzes and funny people. I liked them all!

On the other hand, I've never been to a reunion and never will be!

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I can understand how many people feel that way. It is a basic part of my personality to try to bridge gaps of time and beliefs. High school had some painful memories for me like when my date for the senior prom broke it less than one week before. We never spoke again until the 40th reunion when he came up to me and asked if we could talk. He apologized for humiliating me by breaking that date at the last minute. It is not the first time someone has apologized to me at the reunion and I am appreciative for that opportunity to mend old wounds.

While there were kids from the rich (northeast) side of town and they were the ones who were automatically in the "in" group by virtue of their names, most of the kids in my school were from the my (south) side of town which was mainly low to middle class. When I look at the list of people who return, they were not just the rich kids or the popular ones. In fact, the ones who have consistently come back were us average Joes. And the ones who do the heavy lifting on these reunions are those same people. I think that is why we consistently have had great turnouts. This year, three teachers are coming too.

Most of my girl friends were far more popular than me. I was the geeky one in my group of friends. I was one of the kids who took lots of heavy academic classes, including chemistry and physics, and hung around with the "brains" who were all way smarter than me.

I understand how many people have a bad taste for reunions. My husband was not even invited to his last two reunions even though his mother still lives in the same house he grew up in. One year, it was the "in" group who held a private reunion. He could care less about ever going back.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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to was in Claremont CA which is a college town that is the home of 5 or 6 ? colleges built on the English Oxford model, mostly liberal arts with the exception of Harvey Mudd. The demographics in the HS were interesting and as an arty liberal activist type I fit in fine. It was a strange combination of college professors and lefties family kids and famer's kids. Claremont was at that point the last town before Riverside and the desert. It was orange groves and rural to the north and then Chicano with working class Pomona right below it. I got along fine with both the Chicano's, farmer kids and the intellectual arty types. In Claremont I got to take life drawing at scripps in the 10th grade and get HS credit for it. I took a HS of Russian Literature taught by an elderly woman who really loved her subject and delved into how Russian lit influenced existentialism. It was a shock to move to Lake Oswego which was so conservative and exclusive that the school fired my two favorite teachers for being subversive. My favorite teacher that got fired at LOH taught current events and committed the sin of talking about the history of colonialism in Viet Nam and how the US got mired in the proxy war.

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I never visited a class reunion of my highschool "Abitur" class (13th grade). I just "fell out of sight" in my village and much later, when someone found me again, I felt they thought I am a foreigner. Smile I envy you for your social connections to your past life's friends. Something to cherish.

Now, here my little rant:
I just don't get it why so many German online sites for former exclusively print newspapers all work somehow together with English online publications, either NYT, Guardian, or Huffington Post.

Haven't figured out what that is all about. I just read a bit (for the first time) in the German Huffington Post edition. I dunno, either I am getting really old and cranky, or something else is wrong. It's amazing how "cheap" the language has become. Some writers have real no dignity and not an inch of class when I read their pieces and HOW they write. You can as well just go into a pub and listen to conversations of half-drunk, alpha-males showing off like "heh, am I cooler than you, or what?" Or a bit like dkos comment threads. /ducking

Why is there a German Huffington Post? Why is there cross Atlantic pollination? Or what is it?

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over at the gos user UntimelyRippd just wrote yesterday night the equivalent of a nice GBCW diary under the title "Ten Years. Twenty Thousand Comments. 'Bye'."

You would think someone would "ban" him, right? Nope. How lousy of a "censoring" crew do they have? I liked the diary. Still it's as much a "Good Bye" diary as anyone else's.

Well, I should go to bed and sleep.

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I know that you GBCW'd and they banned you. Shahryar also GBCW'd and they did not ban him. Now this person sort of GBCW and you seem to be upset that he or she has not been banned?

IMHO, what does it matter, one way or another? If someone does not want to participate over there, then they should just leave. Who cares if they GBCW or are banned? Personally, I don't like the GBCW rule, but understand that it was a result of people GBCW'ing over and over as a plea for attention. If I leave permanently, I will just fade away. It so much less messy that way, but then that is the way I am.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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methods to manage a site with regards to "censorship" and I think that's ok to do.

I asked to be banned. Because I wanted to be prevented to comment over there, which I couldn't manage out of my own will (ie lack of will power on my side). It was my way of treating my addiction to read and talk on that site. At least I admitted that I couldn't stop myself from commenting over there. Most of you read over there and comment as well. You make sure you are not banned over there, but come here to say upfront what you couldn't say over there.

Now I am commenting over here, and of course I am aware I am just a click away from the gos. So, I guess, I want to talk and get responses. Yes, I feel there is a certain need for that in my dna make-up. Can you blame God? He made me that way. There are millions of people who have no other persons to talk to than some strangers online. You want to blame them for their solitude? I hear quite a few of them over at the gos and they tear my heart apart.

How about better blaming the lack of real communities in real life? All the talk about it takes a village ... sounds like fake to me. As if you have still have true villages, in which you live for a long time and grow up into adulthood. There is a lot of talk about talking to your neighbors advice from certain people online. I live since 13 years at the same spot and all my neighbors as well. Other than an occasional "hi", a smile and a waving hand and except my direct neighbor, neighbors don't talk much. Some neighbors even refuse to say hi. Basically that's happening everywhere, and not only in the US. You talk more to your online stranger, who you don't know, than to your real neighbors. You have more online communities in the clouds than real ones on the ground. I don't think that's a good thing for your emotional well being, because the remoteness of your neighborly relations have the same effect as the remoteness in warfare. They make you more cruel without realizing it. What kind of community are those, where you don't know your online neighbor?

And it is now a general response to people, who express their willingness to leave the gos site, as them being "attention seekers". I don't buy into that argument.

I think it's very important to tell people that you don't like what is happening on the site and a GBCW diary is no more attention seeking than all other (especially snarky ones which are definitely attention seeking) diaries.

Why do you write in the first place? You don't want to get a response? Don't want to be read? How do you explain that the first thing people do, is looking after who recommended your diary? How do you explain that people dig into your rec history to prove that you said the wrong thing at the wrong time at the wrong side years ago? The "Stasi mentality" of blog commentators is well alive and well denied, but existing.

Fading away? Why? After one has read over there for years? I apologize to say this, but I sense a bit moralizing arrogance in that kind of reaction. Like "Damn poor you, you don't like it here? What a pity, just go away, we don't need your blah blah. Love it or leave it". It's as manipulative a response as any other reaction. And where I come from this attitude is related to something worse than simple manipulation. Writers by default are "attention seekers". They think it's their mission. I don't blame anyone for that.

I think I can recognize a bad feature of a site, when I see it. And I pointed to it.

Please don't take my response as a personal offense. You are a very kind person and very strong. If you can fade away all the power to you. Not every can and not every want to. And that's fine by me too.

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