Don't whine, worry about Trump's Personality Disorder

Two days ago I asked the question of Trump can get a clean bill of health, because I just listened to a speech he gave the same day that worried me. I read now some articles that show that some psychiatrists and mental health professionals share my feelings about Trump's psychological make-up.

So, I wanted to point you to the article by Bill Blum summarizing the results some professional mental health experts have concluded about Trump. I find them worth reading and studying.

The Psychopathology of Donald Trump - Posted on Jul 31, 2016 - By Bill Blum

The Diagnosis
A consensus has emerged that Trump suffers from narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Unless you’ve tuned out of politics completely in this election year, you’ve no doubt heard the word “narcissist” bandied about in connection with Trump, along with labels like “bombastic,” “hyperbolic” and “politically incorrect,” and criticisms that he lacks the temperament and judgment to be president.

But NPD is more than a label, or a momentary mood or affect. It’s a sickness.

The Mayo Clinic, in a website entry posted before Trump’s current presidential bid was a twinkle in anyone’s eye or a nightmare in anyone’s mind, defines it thusly:

"...If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement—and when you don’t receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having ‘the best’ of everything—for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care. ...

...At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. ...

...To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior..."

DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

  1. ● Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance.
    ● Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it.
    ● Exaggerating your achievements and talents.
    ● Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate.
    ● Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people.
    ● Requiring constant admiration.
    ● Having a sense of entitlement.
    ● Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations.
    ● Taking advantage of others to get what you want.
    ● Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others.
    ● Being envious of others and believing others envy you.
    ● Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner.

Vanity Fair had written an article in 2015 summarizing the opinions and results of several mental health experts studying Trump's personality.

IS DONALD TRUMP ACTUALLY A NARCISSIST? THERAPISTS WEIGH IN! - As his presidential campaign trundles forward, millions of sane Americans are wondering: What exactly is wrong with this strange individual? Now, we have an answer. BY HENRY ALFORD-NOVEMBER 11, 2015 9:02 AM
It's worth a read. Too much to excerpt.

The Atlantic has written an expose about Trump in June:

THE MIND OF DONALD TRUMP -Narcissism, disagreeableness, grandiosity—a psychologist investigates how Trump’s extraordinary personality might shape his possible presidency. - By Dan P. McAdams

The New York Times has published an summary table of impressive size of Trump's insults:

“The 250 People, Places, and Things Donald Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List.”
May be you yourself are sicko enough to find pleasure in reading the hundreds of links in there. I am not. But it's a piece of work.

Blum continues in his article to mention Justin Frank, a Washington, D.C.-based psychiatrist and psychoanalyst and a professor at George Washington University.

Trump’s narcissism, Frank continued, also combines with elements of other traits, such as paranoia, an inability to process facts, and attention-deficit disorder. Referring to Trump’s loopy boast that he consults primarily with himself on foreign affairs, Frank remarked, “He’s not interested in hiring anybody smarter than himself because there isn’t anybody, and he’s paranoid enough that he wouldn’t want anybody smarter.”

Regarding the GOP candidate’s thought processes and unwillingness to admit to making any mistakes, Frank said, “Trump takes a preconception [for example, that Mexican rapists are streaming across the border] and turns it into an absolute fact, whereas most people have experiences that can change their preconception into a new conception. You can’t argue with a narcissistic person [like him] on content.”

In Frank’s view, Trump’s limited vocabulary—his overuse use of words like “amazing,” “huge” and “winner” to describe himself, and terms like “loser” and “disgusting” to smear his foes—is typical of youngsters struggling with ADD and lack of impulse control. Like such children, he added, Trump engages in the “childlike quality” of “magical thinking” when it comes to his policy proposals.

Frank departs, however, from other observers on the question of whether Trump is a pathological liar. Because of his magical, childlike thinking, “Trump actually believes what he says at the moment,” Frank maintained. “He lives in digital, not analog time. He doesn’t think about what he said an hour ago.”

“He has the brains of a big man, but the maturity of an 8-year-old,” Frank said, summing up. “And those people are very dangerous potentially.”

Blum also mentions the author of the 1987 book by Tony Schwartz "The Art of the Deal", which was written about in detail in the New Yorker a week ago:

DONALD TRUMP’S GHOSTWRITER TELLS ALL - “The Art of the Deal” made America see Trump as a charmer with an unfailing knack for business. Tony Schwartz helped create that myth—and regrets it. - By Jane Mayer

Trump has reacted to the revelation of Tony Schwartz through Jane Mayer's article in a way, he probably he would react as a President with anyone who crosses his personal and political agenda:

In keeping with that belligerence, Trump has responded to Schwartz’s revelations with a cease-and-desist letter penned by the chief legal officer of the Trump Organization, demanding that Schwartz stop giving interviews about his experiences writing “The Art of the Deal” and forfeit all royalties. Schwartz has hired an attorney to defend himself.

If you still not sick and tired of all the Trump-Psycho-Pathology exposed, try to comprehend Trump and the social and political dangers he represents by understanding the appeal he has for millions of his core supporters.

Why for heavens sake do people "love a Trump" ?

Blum cites in his article that there are some legitimate reasons that explain why some have embraced Trump:

there is something percolating underneath the surface at an unconscious level beyond economic distress, racism and social nostalgia that keeps a candidate who should be consigned to the margins of political life in the thick of the presidential race. What is it that explains the allure that a TV strongman, a clone, some say, of Benito Mussolini, holds for broad who buy into the myth of Trump as an anti-establishment champion (a “blue-collar billionaire,” to quote his son Eric) when he is in truth precisely the opposite?segments of the working class,

Blum goes on to find the answer in "what the Marxist psychoanalyst Wilhelm Reich wrote, when he struggled to understand a similar question as he tried to come to terms with the rise of Nazism and Stalinism in the 1930s":

The answer, Reich posited in his classic work, “The Mass Psychology of Fascism,” lies with the authoritarian and hierarchical structures of the patriarchal family, the dominance of the father as moral law-giver and bulwark against external danger. In times of extreme social stress, dislocation and fear, especially in the absence of viable alternatives, large numbers instinctively turn to figures of authority for protection, heedless of the disastrous consequences.

As University of California professor George Lakoff, a specialist in cognitive linguistics, described the phenomenon in a recent Huffington Post blog: “In the strict father family, father knows best. He knows right from wrong and has the ultimate authority to make sure his children and his spouse do what he says, which is taken to be what is right. … Fear tends to activate desire for a strong strict father—namely, Trump.”

I admit I find this last part as explanation of why people follow Trump a bit unconvincing or simplistic.

Trump a father figure? Really?

I would say it doesn't work together with the analysis of Trump by Frank, who said: "He (Trump) doesn’t think about what he said an hour ago.”“He has the brains of a big man, but the maturity of an 8-year-old".

Quite frankly Sanders is also some kind of father figure for young people, who supported him on his issues and his past record.

To annoy you all even further, perhaps Clinton tries to be the strong mother figure, just nobody likes mom to be like that. A little bit too authoritarian may be? Wink

In any case I didn't put the links together to convince you that it's somewhat better to vote for a mom you don't like instead for a Dad, who behaves like an eight year old.

May be just vote for none of the above. And think about what is more dangerous, a guy who has some sort of personality pathological disorders or a gal, who has some sort of extreme power lusty ideas to make the world a better place, but somewhat has proven that her record shows, that's not what she has done in the past.

I am so sorry. I don't know who to vote for. So, I feel for all of you being angry, confused, determined or whatever it is you feel. And I don't mean to offend anybody. I just hope for something good to happen.

Peace.

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TheOtherMaven's picture

So it looks like a "choice" between TWO raging narcissists.

Fortunately they are not the only candidates running.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

detroitmechworks's picture

And invite folks to take a look at how much it perfectly Matches the Clintons. In particular the sections on Sociopathy.

http://www.psi.uba.ar/academica/carrerasdegrado/psicologia/sitios_catedr...

I ain't voting for either of the crazy people. But then I planted my flag for Jill before I gave Bernie his shot at my vote.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

mimi's picture

of what he said, Clinton is very aware of her lies and manipulations. Trump has imo a narcissistic disorder, because he isn't aware of himself and when he gets caught in his own inconsistencies he gets angry and bullish and invents new lies.

I try to find out when this personality disorder is pathological and when it is not. Many people have called Clinton a sociopath and I have a problem understanding what is the "pathology" in her. She has her opinions all ordered, lined up and is not inconsistent and conscious about what she said. If she realizes people criticize her because her words don't match her actions, either in her campaign or in her past positions. She is aware of her lies. I had the feeling Trump is not.

I understand what a narcissist is and why it is a sickness, I don't understand what a sociopath is and what are the symptoms of a sickness in it.

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detroitmechworks's picture

If you don't want to wade through the DSM, which I admit is a bit of a slog.

http://www.enkivillage.com/what-is-a-sociopath.html

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

mimi's picture

"Sociopath" for Clinton. I might use the word "Psychopath" for Trump. I see inconsistencies.

But I guess I have to try to study that further and right now I am tired of all those pathological stuff. Otherwise I get a pathological disorder myself.

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riverlover's picture

and a bit is tolerable if it makes that person assured enough to make good decisions. T and C have each shown a lack of good decision-making. Lurching is more like it.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

"OMG Trump" is not a sufficient reason to vote for Hillary. And I will not accept any blame if Trump wins. For all I know, he ran for President at Bill Clinton's suggestion so blame Bill.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

mimi's picture

that one should vote for Hillary, because OMG Trump. And neither the articles I listed, nor me said anything about blaming someone for their votes. It's all you can think of when I try to figure out what a is a sociopath vs. a psychopath and in how far are the categorizations for either Trump of Hillary are somewhat reasonable and justified?

DMW gave me a link to a "guideline" of the differences between a sociopath and a psychopath, it was a guideline for non-academics, so good for me. I read it and found that according to what they say in there that to categorize Clinton as a sociopath is not justified. My personal conclusion.

Just because many here throw the word sociopath around when it comes to Clinton, doesn't mean I have to shout with them in a choir, no?

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Slightkc's picture

We saw what happened with the last little narcissistic dude - GW crashed the global economy. His cohort - Chaney - by his own words embodies the dark side of life.

I realize mental health issues weren't as well understood back in 1776 as they are now, but shouldn't someone as blatantly insane as Trump be disqualified from running as Prez?

Of course, I'm stupid enough to belief that "rigging" an election is fraud and you don't count that "winner" as a winner. So.. what do I know? (shrug)

;0

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just substitute Clinton's for Trump, same shit different messenger.

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