Hiding Reality

So ya got this:

And then you got this:

So that when Bubba gave his speech (which I did not watch), it looks like magic! The place is filled again!

Oy.

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... And I feel much better for it.

Mark Twain, as usual, said it best:

If you don't read a newspaper, you're uninformed.
If you do read a newspaper, you're misinformed.

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And was once again blown away by him. Made me cry ... again.

Didn't, however, persuade me to vote for Hillary.

The whole basis for the argument of pressuring Hillary doesn't work for me. The DNC has made it crystal clear that they will crush anyone who runs for office and doesn't tow the party line, so where will the pressure come from to counter the enormous influence of the big money?

She's not going to lobby against the TPP in the lame duck session, and she won't honor any bargains she makes now with the Sanders contingent.

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the jig was up. They don't care. From here on out, it's all going to be Trump! Putin! She'll be trolling for rethuglicsn votes, and we can go fuck ourselves.

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she can go fuck herself and so can her deluded Stepford Supporters.

No way was I watching that fake-ass bullshit. It made me mad enough live-tweeting about it.

She'll be trolling for rethuglican votes

And she will lose, unless she can cheat better than the GOP.

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I've got intelligent friends on Facebook yapping about how we have to vote for Clinton or we will be facing friend of Russia Trump Oh my! Are they just stupid consumers of the MSM? Only swing state voters are going to count. So the DNC just gave the Presidency to Trump! Neoliberalism has decimated the Midwest states and those swing states that voted blue before will go red just to shake a fist at the establishment. So much harder to cheat when Republicans are in charge of the voters and vote counting. Maybe Kasich hates Trump enough to give his state to Hillary but I heard they're already disenfranchising democrats as fast as they can.

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...And she will lose, unless she can cheat better than the GOP.

Look at the primary, and this, if you haven't yet seen it. (It's posted about on-site.)

Says - even only regarding the exit polls, that it appears that 'Sanders may have handily won the primary', if not for the massive voter suppression and cheating.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6J1ecILnk3UUy1KZ2FUT29iQ1E/view?pref=2...

Democracy Lost: A Report on the Fatally Flawed 2016 Democratic Primaries

Election Justice USA | ElectionJusticeUSA.org | ElectionJusticeUSA@gmail.com

(Edited to get the quote from the post I was answering, which - at 3:30 AM - I'd neglected to add first.)

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had to half listen while I played on the other computer to all the speeches that got moved up so he could be moved to last position. I have no intention to watching any of the rest of it at all. If there is anything I need to know I am sure someone will post it here. = ) I will try to follow the protests though.

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for the rest of the convention because everybody is too pissed and sad to watch any of it and report back.

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over to DK, there are some masochists in the group, so someone will have news. = )

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Hey, they bravely sacrifice themselves so we don't have to crawl through the latrine pipes ourselves! They deserve kudos and antibiotics. And decontam.

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Thank for your service and I need to up my own lazy contributions.

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Note well that Bernie Sanders never conceded to nor released his delegates to Hillary Clinton. He moved to suspend the "procedural rules", to reflect all votes in the record (as is) and moved to make Hillary Clinton The nominee.

....and then left the stadium. As did a few others, it seems. Think about the opening he gave himself. He may have threaded the needle.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

As you point out, Bernie will have a strategy, he always does.

If one attempt to help the people/democracy doesn't work, he reacts to circumstances and changes methods to deal with them as best he can. As a politician who goes to bed working out how to help the vulnerable, he thinks not only on his feet but probably in his sleep about how to help fill such imperative needs - and he's willing to take a hit personally to try to do it, whether it's being arrested while chained to a Black fellow-protester or having his integrity questioned while battling wide-spread and ruthless corporate corruption of government.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

... just saw a Tweet where Obama is now chiming in about the Russians being behind the DNC leak. Double oy.

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Another truly shocking development.

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,!!!!!!!!

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Get under your desks!!

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cover your head with your arms, put it between your knees, and prepare to kiss your ass good bye.

Yep, I remember those days. And to tell the truth, I sure as Hell haven't missed them. If we keep poking that bear, we'll be right back to 'those days'.

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invading the privacy of a public organization which is supposed not to deceive its members.

Unlike the Patriots Act which only invades the privacy of private citizens who mind their own businesses on the ground that "if you don't have anything to hide then you shouldn't worry"

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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the leak? But of course. Deflect, divert, dumb down. Look there, not here. Obama has presided over the worst crackdown on whistleblowers in US history. So done with the party.

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By "experts" I am guessing he means the Clinton campaign.

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And they didn't bother to call the Las Vegas Sheriff Dept to verify the rumors. Disgusting.

I guess Barack is with Hillary to the end. Didn't his grandmother tell him that when you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas?

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continuum. If we allow the Clintons to install themselves in the White House again, they won't leave voluntarily.

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I wonder how long it will be before Chelsea runs for a House seat or the Senate. She needs to get one of those in the next couple years so she can have her turn as the "First daughter of a former president" to become president. Hillary out, Chelsea in!

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JULIAN ASSANGE: Well, what’s not in that clip there by Robby is that, just afterwards, he was asked by Jake Tapper, "Who are these experts? Can you name them?" The answer was no, a refusal to name the experts. But we have seen one of the experts, so-called experts, that the Democratic Party is trying to base its incredible conspiracy theory on about WikiLeaks. And that is this—what we jokingly refer to as the NSA dick pic guy. He’s a former National Security Agency agent who started to produce conspiracy theories about us in 2013, when we were involved in the Edward Snowden rescue, as a means to try and undermine the Snowden publications, subsequently embroiled in some amateur pornography scandal. That’s why they don’t want to name their experts, because they are people like this.

http://www.democracynow.org/2016/7/25/exclusive_wikileaks_julian_assange...

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Naked Capitalism posted a link to the complete video of Julian Assange on the DNC emails. I watched the interview. Why would Democracy Now decide to edit the video to leave out Jake Tapper's follow-up question to Robbie Mook? I thank Julian Assange for doing the work for Democracy Now.

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Because it was the Russians who shone the spotlight on it.

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I'm a computer nerd with over 40 years experience in the industry. I've looked at the reports produced by some of the "experts" and they're quite full of bullshit. They are designed to support an agenda, not to detect who the perpetrators are. One of the frequently cited reports bases itself on a Washington Post article and the WaPo article bases itself on the report! Circular reasoning at its best.

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circle of self-reference.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Haven't bothered to find what President Obama was quoted as saying, but figure they're probably PR experts, so it's OK if they're quoted as unnamed experts, because then it's not really lying?

Edit: this was posted a 1/2 mile up, where it landed, it looks as though I'm right. 1st time this year!

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Megyn Kelly's " Some People say..."?

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There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.

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The Democratic Party continues to demonstrate that it has no use for democracy. True democrats (little "d") should look, listen, get the message, and leave.

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Violating the "holding a sign" law?

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And of course the ol' standby...Resisting arrest!

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I think that one's a felony, folks. Or will soon be.

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"OK, you're welcome at the convention but only if you pay your own way. You can hold signs but only as long as we say so. Now go away and we won't reimburse you for your wasted trip." They should file another class-action lawsuit over wasted money.

If that really happened, then I am glad they walked out en masse!

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

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is speaking via video tape --- you gotta be fucking kidding me --- she's not even there in person --- I'm sorry, but that's some sorry shit!

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and the hillbots would explain why it's fantastic.

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I understand how you could think that couldn't possibly happen. But really, you can't make this shit up!

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
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her Big Moment with confrontations with unruly Sanders delegates and supporters. And possibly fearing what happened: a walkout of 1,900 delegates, leaving gaping holes in the large convention hall visible to any but artful camera angles. Unless the DNC has scrambled and moved in remaining bodies to make the close-in rows look packed and enthusiastic. Which apparently it did for Bill's corn-pone speech.

Can no one rid us of these pestilent Clintons? Wave a wand and make them disappear and stay gone?

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for a loan to hire actors s to fill the seats.

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There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.

Lots of homeless people hanging around. Many probably ended up there via Bill's anti-poor policies. Give them a few Shillary bucks to fill up those seats, then pretend they're Bernie delegates turned Shill supporters.

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She has a teleprompter and it can be edited if she screws up, and she isn't there in person to get flustered at the first sound of someone booing her. Extemporaneous speaking is not her forte, like it is for Bill who can remember so much he can speak about things off the top of his head.

Controlling the message is the most important part of the whole thing since she's such a notorious liar, criminal, and warmonger, among other things.

Remind you of anything..., like the Big Head speaking on telescreens? See Nineteen Eighty-four by George Orwell, the text of which is online, BTW (copyright ran out).

I can't think of the book without remembering the last line of the last paragraph. [...shudder...]

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... seeing as it's from CBS. I found it quite compelling:

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Not national, unfortunately. Sure ought to be. He's award winning. One of the few still not bought, apparently. See wiki bio, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Swann

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How is this guy still on the air? Didn't he get the memo that actually talking about the contents of the e-mails is supporting Putin and makes the baby Jesus cry?

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

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I don't know where we go from here. Sanders said he was going to go all the way through the convention, and he kept taking my money... And Tim Kaine... And DWS surrogacy... And god knows what other horrors await us...
I haven't watched any of it. Just too dispiriting.

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I feel the same way! I gave more money to Bernie than I've ever contributed in the rest of my life combined. I feel like the DNC stole it right out of my wallet. The DNC is very likely to lose that lawsuit. I hope they have to pay back everyone who contributed to Bernie's campaign and punitive damages on top of that. That would be a fitting end to the DNC and the democRAT party.

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I hope you've joined the class action lawsuit against the DNC

how do you participate in the class action if you don't do Facebook? all i've ever seen with regard to this class action is links to the lawyers Facebook page. i've asked this question a half dozen times in as many posts where the class action is mentioned and have yet to get an answer. maybe you have some info?

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dncfraud@jampac.us

This is the email address set up for the class action lawsuit by the law firm handling it. If you send them an email, they will send you some paperwork to fill out and send back in order to participate.

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http://jampac.us/2016/06/21/dnc-fraud-class-action-lawsuit/

I think everyone that gave any money to Bernie, or in the unlikely case, directly to the DNC should join.

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“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush

i probably gave more money to Bernie than i did Obama. it was more than i could realistically afford but, like many others, i hadn't heard anything like i heard from Bernie my entire adult life. i wanted him to keep his message going as long as he could. he even bothered to come to our neck of the woods (read: desert) in the Coachella Valley. i was 30 feet from the guy and i'll probably never be that close to a presidential candidate ever again.

CV4Bernie.jpg

now, as far as this lawsuit, is it legit or just a bunch of collective whiners? i willingly gave my money to Bernie. i don't expect a refund because i don't feel he cheated me. however, if they are going after the DNC, considering the recent revelations, i think it might be something genuine and something to get involved with so i need to look into it some more.

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and get the information packet. They will send the information pack back to you very quickly and it will include the filing with the court. Yes this is a legitimate lawsuit and it has already been filed.

The suit is against the DNC and Debbie Wassermann Schultz. It's my understanding both have already been served notice. Last I heard, there were 13,000 people who have signed up and that was before the Wikileak's email dump occurred. It costs nothing to join the lawsuit. At this point, I can't see how they could lose.

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they will ask you how much you contributed. Since all of my donations were through Act Blue, I was able to go their site and print the list of my individual donations to a PDF that I attached to the paperwork when I returned it.

Nothing I'd like to see more than the DNC and DWS have to come up with 10's of millions to pay back the Bernie supporters they defrauded.

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Shaun King is tweeting about this -- he was so moved by Sanders' speech that he (erroneously, imo) decided to vote for Clinton. I think this development will shake his conviction about that.

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But he gave up at the same time Bernie did, so grain of salt is applicable.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

Something happened and I'll wait to hear from Nina before I make any judgments.

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Not to undercut Ben Jealous, but too many people are saying it happened, including a delegate who was marching with her after she got kicked out.

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... for Nina to tell her story when she's ready. All Ben Jealous said was that she didn't have her credentials taken away. But obviously something pretty rotten happened.

They picked the wrong person to disrespect, is all I can say at this time.

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grain of salt is applicable.

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Right now he is shitting his pants about the latest fivethirtyeight "chance of winning numbers" and telling us to wake up.

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tomorrow (Wednesday). This article from Common Dreams seems to suggest that there were a couple of things that happened, including Turner and Rosario Dawson being removed from a video that was shown at the convention.

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Maybe tomorrow the rest of the Bernie delegates will walk, although I'm sure some may have a better relationship with local state parties that helps to smooth over problems with the DNC.

Either way, these are not the kind of losses that a candidate with Clinton's unfavorables can afford.

As someone else noted, however, it's telling that Trump's wife (#3) became the focus of coverage for a full day over plagiarism of one or two paragraphs, whereas this kind of stuff receives little to no coverage. If this had been at the RNC convention, this would have played into their narrative of a convention in disarray, in the case of the Dems, however, the press effectively repeats whatever line the Clinton campaign feeds them. e.g. it's only a few, not representative of a large number of voters; hard feelings will heal.

This presidential cycle has been incredibly revealing about the kind of biases that factor in to the way that major media companies cover domestic politics.

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about the 90% of Bernie supporters that will be supporting Hillary. Ha!

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from among the Hillary supporters. They'll believe anything.

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the 90% of Bernie supporters that will be supporting Hillary. Ha!

Even BBC World News is troweling that load of fermented used cat box filler (Ammonia Avenue) right now!

"Ack, ack, ack, thbbt, thbbt, thbbt!!" -- Bill T. Cat

Diablo

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This morning NPR was citing figures of a couple hundred delegates walking out. Would like to know the real numbers, but will probably have to live with little true info.

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I thought 90% of Bernie supporters were going to vote for Hillary? I wonder if any of this is being shown on MSM networks? And if I'm not mistaken, Hillary was speaking via video as this was being filmed.

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Care to name names or are you going to hide behind this vague statement?
And why does it matter who leaked the emails that showed how the DNC screwed over the democratic process of voting by being behind one candidate while trying to discredit the other one?
This is on you, and you need to own up to it.
You knew that DWS was bad at her job of keeping both houses of congress instead of losing them.
You had to have seen the candidates she endorsed and had every one not mention your achievements or seen how she endorsed the weakest candidates knowing that they would lose to the republican one.
But I think that is what you wanted. That way you could hide behind the republicans blocking any progressive agenda that you didn't try to get passed when you had the majority. And you knew that you would need the republicans to help you fast track the TPP because too many democrats weren't in support of it.
I'm hoping that one day you will look back at your presidency and have an ounce of remorse for letting millions of people who believed in you down.
You could have made history if you had stuck to your campaign promises, but that wasn't your job was it?
No your job was to further the PNAC agenda which has seen close to a million innocent civilians killed, further the corporations take over a f this country and further decimate the middle class and bury the poor.
You sold us out, Barry and for what? Money?
Shame on you!

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never encouraged the voters to participate or had big registration drives. Preferred former republican candidates to progressive Dems. Deported more immigrants than any other president, hunted down more whistleblowers, drone killed more civilians, never, ever prosecuted any bankers or torturers. Would have offered up Social Security cuts, only the Republicans were too vicious to agree to them. A well behaved, oratorically gifted neoliberal oligarch supporter. No, I don't wish we could have another Obama term. Between the Clintons and Obama and the Bushes, we've become an oligarchy run by two corrupt or crazy parties, decimating the middle class until they are ripe to follow the latest in Mussolini action figures. It'll be Trump or someone even worse, someone who knows how Washington works and can do more harm.

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things anyway. But these were people that did go, just decided to leave early. So you know, it's all relative.

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...all the Bernie delegates that worked so hard to raise money to get there and then be shut out on just the second day. there's two more days to go. why would you stay?

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do some sight seeing--in groups wearing Sanders' stuff. Maybe visit the local TV station and a couple newspaper offices check out the Liberty Bell. Be seen here and there and everywhere, but the convention hall. Let the Dems play musical chairs.

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That's a catchy phrase! Mrs. R came up with that one!

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Jill and Bernie in a tree
D.E.M.E.X.I.T.

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Sounds like a protest chant soon to be heard in the streets.

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