Johnny and Joe put their heart, sweat, blood, and tears into this fucking website, and they do it for us! I'll wait a little longer for the goddamned pages to load and suck it up rather than go someplace that I might regret later.
I'm coming to really love this community. I'm sorry you can't wait those five minutes for the pages to load -- they're doing the best they can, ffs.
It would be nice if we could turn this diary into a fundraiser for the siterunners ...
At least here there aren't ads causing flash crashes.
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I have not had one since I kosexited. I had forgotten.
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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
for everything you do for keeping this site running. Whenever it's down I know that you are working on getting it back up and I'm grateful for everything you and others do for us and for creating it in the first place. Your work is very worth it.
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JtC and Joe have put everything into this place and I am eternally great-full. The cess-pool that the other place turned into wasn't habitable and this life boat has become a home.
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Anyone who's ever run a website or server knows you're not going to have consistent ISP, server, upstream connectivity 24/7/365.
More to the point, though, it's usually a thankless job. It takes your time, energy, money. It means sacrificing family time and sleep.
What Johnny has given to all of us is an online community that we basically did nothing to earn. I'm happy to contribute to the fundraiser.
p.s. Shirley, nobody asked you to be gracious. At the same time, I don't think anyone asked you to throw a selfish pity party because you were temporarily inconvenienced.
and completely uncalled for. How much have you contributed to making this place happen? Do you think they have the budget to run multiple bundled T1 lines?
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You got that right. When a Complainer ain't Complaining, she ain't happy.
People don't understand how web servers work anyway. When you do a live blog of an unfolding event, you get 100 people hitting the refresh button every 20 seconds. That bogs down the server -- simple math. But wah-wah, it's taking time to reload the page, oh boo hoo sob, cry me a river. Hahahha.
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
If we need to charge memberships or put in ads to provide a minimally acceptable level of access, I am in. What good is such an awesome place if you can't get in or go anyplace if you do get in.
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I've seen them ruin the content of many sites. As the site manager becomes more dependent on the advertiser the advertiser then gets more influence on the site content. The site manager becomes more focused on keeping the advertiser satisfied and less focused on making the community happy.
The web community I develop for has refused to add advertisements and it's one of the most successful sites of it's kind for the past 20 years.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I usually keep at least 5 different essays open on separate tabs and use 1 tab to navigate the site, jumping from one story to the next. When the pages are slow to load, I'll start reading the essays that I've kept on reserve on the other tabs.
Hope this helps.
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Different browsers work better with different sites as well, Firefox works best for me but there may be a better option. It might help to try a few browsers and see what works for you.
In any case, a little bit of housekeeping once a week will make your computer faster and safer.
Delete cookies and .tmp files
Free CC Cleaner will do the above, find and delete "junk" files. The first time you do this, I bet you'll be surprised by all the crap your computer accumulates.
Free defrag and optimize files on your hard drive with AusLogics.
All of this will take maybe 10 minutes. Do it once a week and you'll be glad you did it. Your system will run faster and safer. The software is all free but I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I've bought bigger name brand software that isn't 10% as good as the freeware.
Disclosure: I set up EHR/EMR interfaces for hospitals and doctors offices as a moonlight. I want my encryption and servers to be fast and stealth and PRABOB, they know that.
I am already running two (long story). I will report back when this has been done.
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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
that more $ (for a dedicated server?) might help or is it just life on the net?
Let me add my thanks for your efforts. I really do appreciate it. Wish we could afford to pay you what you're worth, but that is priceless. So just let me say thank you again.
I've had slow loading time at other sites due to the advertising, but I've not experienced it here. Sometimes it's one's internet provider, rather than the website. I appreciate the work the site managers do and the fact that there are no advertisements popping up everywhere.
I am not on 24/7, but I have not had a problem with this site loading when I am on. Maybe an occasional hiccup, but definitely not anything like the author has cited.
Edited after learning that there was a problem when I was not on.
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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
server not responding, several times yesterday, according to IsItDown, including for 1-1/2 hours after this post went up last night. Creaking slowly along between down times. Since the rest of the net that I visit was fine, I personally wondered about a DDOS attack or some such.
I dunno. I'm only techy enough to get myself in trouble trying to discuss such things.
Maybe JtC can enlighten us about site performance etc., and possible reasons.
received a quick response that I don't think they'd mind me sharing.
There was extremely heavy traffic yesterday, lots of people interested in WikiLeaks and the convention. Hooray! If that continues, I'm sure we'll get more capacity. If not, the site will get faster because traffic will calm down.
Right now, it's nice and speedy!
I think these are just normal growing pains. When the site is slow, if it's too slow I do something else for a while. There's no need to leave forever.
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it has to do with lack of money to buy more broadband and I always think it's lovely how people take all of the "fast access" users get for free on the sites, they want to talk their hearts out, for granted without paying something for it.
It's like wanting all the social services your government will give you and not wanting to pay taxes for it.
May be I get it wrong, but JtC could correct me, if there are other reasons.
Once in a while I have an occasional problem with slow-loading pages on all websites. Being old-school, the first thing I do is logout and close the affected site completely and come back in a few minutes.
On this site, that works 99% of the time!
Please also allow me to add my voice to those others of us who thank you for your daily efforts in keeping c99p on the air for all of us!
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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Things were really slow last night. FYI both this site and jackpineradicals.com (which is where bernie people from democratic underground went) were getting hammered at the same time. They'd go down together, go slow together, and come back up together. I strongly suspect there were some denial of service attacks going on last night in addition to higher traffic due to the convention.
went down for a bit...
My reaction was not one of impatience or disgust.
I was immediately worried, thinking of JtC working his ass off for us, wondering what I could do to help!
Of course, that's just how I roll.
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it's pretty easy to imagine that during that time period of the live coverage of the convention, the network was overloaded and the broadband link you had needed to be shared with too many others. I am always amazed how some people automatically blame their administrator for things he can't control.
I wished we had another "business" model for this site. I have had it with "exploiting" volunteer work, as honorable it may be, it's not right to take your time and nerves for free in my books. But you know that I said that before.
surely you aren't serious that you'll surely leave because of a lousy 5 minutes? For sure Shirley I understand your frustrations and here's a tip that's sure to work for you Shirley. Shirley, if you're hearing this when you turn on your computer, you may want to upgrade your service because surely this is your problem Shirley.
If not, well, we sure hate to see you leave Shirley. But I'm sure you'll find another home out there in the vast wasteland of the intertubes. Remember Shirley, do not talk to strangers on your quest. Brush your teeth and say your prayers before you go to bed.
Thanks for your hospitality. Dinner was great but I'm tired of waiting around for dessert. Later.
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Jesus, that's shitty.
Johnny and Joe put their heart, sweat, blood, and tears into this fucking website, and they do it for us! I'll wait a little longer for the goddamned pages to load and suck it up rather than go someplace that I might regret later.
I'm coming to really love this community. I'm sorry you can't wait those five minutes for the pages to load -- they're doing the best they can, ffs.
It would be nice if we could turn this diary into a fundraiser for the siterunners ...
I miss Colorado.
Thanks Shiz...
sometimes I wonder why I do it, thanks for reminding me why it's worth it.
Shirley if you ever waited five minutes for any page to
load anywhere then I think it is safe to say that you have 'other issues.' eom
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Verizon sucks these days.
Could that be it?
“One of the things I love about the American people is that we can hold many thoughts at once” - Kamala Harris
I agree with Shiz 100%
I do what I can to write decent stuff hopefully it will spread.
My load times this side [the other side] of the pond are around 5 to 10s Hardly painful.
As divineorder says: something else is the problem
Exactly. I have longer load times at the orange place.
At least here there aren't ads causing flash crashes.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Oh yes, those flash crashes.
I have not had one since I kosexited. I had forgotten.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Thank you JtC
for everything you do for keeping this site running. Whenever it's down I know that you are working on getting it back up and I'm grateful for everything you and others do for us and for creating it in the first place.
Your work is very worth it.
“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt
I agree 100%
JtC and Joe have put everything into this place and I am eternally great-full. The cess-pool that the other place turned into wasn't habitable and this life boat has become a home.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Count me in on the fundraiser
Anyone who's ever run a website or server knows you're not going to have consistent ISP, server, upstream connectivity 24/7/365.
More to the point, though, it's usually a thankless job. It takes your time, energy, money. It means sacrificing family time and sleep.
What Johnny has given to all of us is an online community that we basically did nothing to earn. I'm happy to contribute to the fundraiser.
p.s. Shirley, nobody asked you to be gracious. At the same time, I don't think anyone asked you to throw a selfish pity party because you were temporarily inconvenienced.
Ever think site may be under attack? I have. /nt
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
Oh, good, I'm not alone.
Oh, good, I'm not alone. Either under attack, or a provider slowing it down.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Ever think this Essay is part of that attack?
That's my first thoughts.
That
had not occurred to me, but now that you mention it . . .
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
no, not at all
on the other hand, Russians or possibly Lamont might be hacking the place.
The very same thought occurred to me.
This site is starting to getting noticed in the media.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Yeah. That was shitty
and completely uncalled for. How much have you contributed to making this place happen? Do you think they have the budget to run multiple bundled T1 lines?
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
T1 lines?
No one buys data service by the T1 line anymore. A T1 line is only 1.544 Mbps.
I do know that.
I'm showing my age.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
That just seems to be her/his m.o.
Debbie Downer. Bernie blah, blah, complain, blah, blah, complain. Sheesh!
Love the tag too.
Complainers Gotta Complain.
You got that right. When a Complainer ain't Complaining, she ain't happy.
People don't understand how web servers work anyway. When you do a live blog of an unfolding event, you get 100 people hitting the refresh button every 20 seconds. That bogs down the server -- simple math. But wah-wah, it's taking time to reload the page, oh boo hoo sob, cry me a river. Hahahha.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Damn
you're lucky.
Try some slow motion DSL.
Best of luck to you anywho.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
The slowness I can live with
When the web site is down is another story.
Is there anything we can do to help?
Very good question:
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I have asked that question at least ten times.
If we need to charge memberships or put in ads to provide a minimally acceptable level of access, I am in. What good is such an awesome place if you can't get in or go anyplace if you do get in.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
I am 100% against advertisements
I've seen them ruin the content of many sites. As the site manager becomes more dependent on the advertiser the advertiser then gets more influence on the site content. The site manager becomes more focused on keeping the advertiser satisfied and less focused on making the community happy.
The web community I develop for has refused to add advertisements and it's one of the most successful sites of it's kind for the past 20 years.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Exactly...
thank you.
The best things come...
to those who wait.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Quick tip
I usually keep at least 5 different essays open on separate tabs and use 1 tab to navigate the site, jumping from one story to the next. When the pages are slow to load, I'll start reading the essays that I've kept on reserve on the other tabs.
Hope this helps.
"Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realize we cannot eat money." --Nineteenth century Nēhilawē (Cree) proverb
Your unspoken assumption
that this user is looking for a solution might not track with reality. Kind of you to offer nonetheless.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
Thank you
Great tip.
Different browsers work better with different sites as well, Firefox works best for me but there may be a better option. It might help to try a few browsers and see what works for you.
In any case, a little bit of housekeeping once a week will make your computer faster and safer.
All of this will take maybe 10 minutes. Do it once a week and you'll be glad you did it. Your system will run faster and safer. The software is all free but I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I've bought bigger name brand software that isn't 10% as good as the freeware.
Disclosure: I set up EHR/EMR interfaces for hospitals and doctors offices as a moonlight. I want my encryption and servers to be fast and stealth and PRABOB, they know that.
I did do all but the anti-stuff,
I am already running two (long story). I will report back when this has been done.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
JtC, is this a problem
that more $ (for a dedicated server?) might help or is it just life on the net?
Let me add my thanks for your efforts. I really do appreciate it. Wish we could afford to pay you what you're worth, but that is priceless. So just let me say thank you again.
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
I'm broke as shit, but
I can at least thank you guys. You are doing us and the left admirable service. My gratitude to you.
“If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”
No Problem with Site
I've had slow loading time at other sites due to the advertising, but I've not experienced it here. Sometimes it's one's internet provider, rather than the website. I appreciate the work the site managers do and the fact that there are no advertisements popping up everywhere.
I was just about to post the same thing
I am not on 24/7, but I have not had a problem with this site loading when I am on. Maybe an occasional hiccup, but definitely not anything like the author has cited.
Edited after learning that there was a problem when I was not on.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
This site was down,
server not responding, several times yesterday, according to IsItDown, including for 1-1/2 hours after this post went up last night. Creaking slowly along between down times. Since the rest of the net that I visit was fine, I personally wondered about a DDOS attack or some such.
I dunno. I'm only techy enough to get myself in trouble trying to discuss such things.
Maybe JtC can enlighten us about site performance etc., and possible reasons.
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
okay
I will edit my own post which was rude in itself. I am rarely on at night. Yes, I had some hiccups during the day, but nothing like what I read here.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
It was extremely slow here so I messaged Admin and
received a quick response that I don't think they'd mind me sharing.
There was extremely heavy traffic yesterday, lots of people interested in WikiLeaks and the convention. Hooray! If that continues, I'm sure we'll get more capacity. If not, the site will get faster because traffic will calm down.
Right now, it's nice and speedy!
I think these are just normal growing pains. When the site is slow, if it's too slow I do something else for a while. There's no need to leave forever.
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I do not think it has anything to do with growing pains
it has to do with lack of money to buy more broadband and I always think it's lovely how people take all of the "fast access" users get for free on the sites, they want to talk their hearts out, for granted without paying something for it.
It's like wanting all the social services your government will give you and not wanting to pay taxes for it.
May be I get it wrong, but JtC could correct me, if there are other reasons.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Hey JtC: Nihil illegitimis carborundum!
(Don't let the bastards grind you down!)
Once in a while I have an occasional problem with slow-loading pages on all websites. Being old-school, the first thing I do is logout and close the affected site completely and come back in a few minutes.
On this site, that works 99% of the time!
Please also allow me to add my voice to those others of us who thank you for your daily efforts in keeping c99p on the air for all of us!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Bad manners, ungrateful, and poor form, in my opinion. n/t
Kind of a shitty post
Things were really slow last night. FYI both this site and jackpineradicals.com (which is where bernie people from democratic underground went) were getting hammered at the same time. They'd go down together, go slow together, and come back up together. I strongly suspect there were some denial of service attacks going on last night in addition to higher traffic due to the convention.
The site was slow a few times yesterday,
went down for a bit...
My reaction was not one of impatience or disgust.
I was immediately worried, thinking of JtC working his ass off for us, wondering what I could do to help!
Of course, that's just how I roll.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
JtC I wished you didn't have to read this "diary"
it's pretty easy to imagine that during that time period of the live coverage of the convention, the network was overloaded and the broadband link you had needed to be shared with too many others. I am always amazed how some people automatically blame their administrator for things he can't control.
I wished we had another "business" model for this site. I have had it with "exploiting" volunteer work, as honorable it may be, it's not right to take your time and nerves for free in my books. But you know that I said that before.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Shirley, Shirley, Shirley
surely you aren't serious that you'll surely leave because of a lousy 5 minutes? For sure Shirley I understand your frustrations and here's a tip that's sure to work for you Shirley. Shirley, if you're hearing this when you turn on your computer, you may want to upgrade your service because surely this is your problem Shirley.
If not, well, we sure hate to see you leave Shirley. But I'm sure you'll find another home out there in the vast wasteland of the intertubes. Remember Shirley, do not talk to strangers on your quest. Brush your teeth and say your prayers before you go to bed.
Shorter diary:
Thanks for your hospitality. Dinner was great but I'm tired of waiting around for dessert. Later.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Maybe load time
will increase now.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Fabulous dahhling ) just fabulous nt
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
I'm out, too.
I now realize that I don't belong here. I hope you all find peace one day.
I'm in...
and glad to be here. And although I'm not pleased with the state of the world, I feel at peace in this piece of the world where I live.
I would suggest donating a little money every time you're frustrated about loading time.
Thanks JtC for all the work it takes to keep c99 going!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
What a lovely reminder
I went camping and forgot to mail a donation check to JTC. Sorry JTC.
Zee Chek Iz In Zee Mail. Not much but something.
I love you guys at cc99!
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
I just made another small
I just made another small donation to the site. Thank you for all of the hard work in providing your rowdy guests a home. It's greatly appreciated!
Edited to change a questionable grammatical decision.
Surely you can't be serious.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Too. Damn. Funny. Waveydavey
You have no idea, well how would you, how many times that movie quote is said in this house.
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
Why do people feel the need to announce they are leaving?
It's weird, isn't it? If I don't enjoy a website, I just don't visit it again. I don't write them to tell them I won't be back.
asdf
it's all about "attention".