And propaganda.

Pensions are a long-term asset. It's only been 3 days.

The decline of the pound has positives and negatives. It encourages more tourism as foreign currencies go farther. It increases exports because British goods will be cheaper for other nations.

Britain was never even a full-compliance EU member. They kept their own Pound instead of adopting the Euro. They retained the ability to pick and choose which EU rules and regulations applied to them. One of the few EU-ish things they did was open their border to cheap foreign labor at the expense of British workers.

The effects of leaving the EU remain to be seen. Setting your hair on fire and running around in circles after just 3 days -- and they haven't even exited yet -- is just plain silly.

It is not the importation of workers that causes wages to fall.

To deny that this doesn't have an impact is to embrace pretense over reality. Too many workers and too few jobs helps keep wages lower, so yes, importation of workers does cause wages to become stagnant and to fall.

Immigrants didn't do that. The 1% did that.

The immigrant is doing what is in their best interest. The elitist is doing what is in their best interest. The existing worker has been helpless to do anything when the elite ship opportunities out of the country, or give opportunities to those immigrating, while ignoring the existing workers.

As you admit a couple of times, lots good paying jobs are needed and the elites actively endorse policies which depress wages and ship jobs out of the country in the form of free trade agreements.

it's not immigrants who threaten native workers.

It's those in power who no longer think of their own working class. The immigrants are a secondary threat and another obvious outlet for frustration for those who are being taking advantage of and ignored. That the workers in Britain chose to leave the EU should be no surprise.

One can not have globalism, sovereignty, and democracy all at the same time. For globalism to flourish, at least one of the other two must suffer. in the case of the EU, both sovereignty and democracy have suffered.

And the people have no recourse because those controlling the EU make themselves insulated from any checks and balances. They've insulated themselves form accountability to the people in many ways. So now, accountability has come in a different form, the British Exit from the EU. Those Britains who voted to leave choose to no longer be subjugated by EU control.

Immigration and control of one's borders is a step toward ensuring one can control the population, and thus have an impact on the availability of jobs and the wages they command.

Pretending otherwise won't make it so.

really.

one CCTV camera for every soul in britain.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/10172298/One-surveillance-camera-f...
surely these are freedom surveillance cameras. lol.

not to take everything you read from the Guardian at face value, nor make assumptions about culprits without understanding the larger political context.

When you have an immigrant population USED to depress wages in areas where wages are already depressed, people don't know WHO to be pissed at but the immigrant as that is all they see. This has been used repeatedly in many countries, not just the US or Britain. A great example I read about is busing and desegregation. By mandating that it be done in NOT wealthy areas, in areas where people are already struggling, and then stoking the racial hatred, you get a lot of legislation and pushback on other legislation from that. And you get to call the people against it merely racist, instead of looking at the actual flawed policies themselves.

Just like illegal immigration - illegals don't make OSHA complaints, they don't demand overtime, they don't complain at all like a legal citizen would do. Sure, they're "taking the jobs" but at whose behest? Certainly not the people whose wages they have displaced but the employer who wants to pay lower wages. But never let that willful intent be known, merely spin it as the racist ravings of a bunch of "sore losers" or low information Luddites. Then add in some Faux Noise propaganda, and viola - anything that person who lost their job votes for can be spun to be merely racist and ignorant, when it's really one hell of a lot deeper than that.

This whole Brexit to me is a prime illustration of our own Tea Party, but this time the vote went, kind of, the other way. Sure, the elites will still win ultimately, they're already busy at work figuring out just how to short it or whatever they need to do to profit. So maybe it isn't a completely good thing. But it does make a statement, and what I fear is we're the MSM is too busy worrying and even spreading the meme that this is ONLY due to racism, and it isn't. But the more our economies weaken, the racist rhetoric will be used, once again, to ensure elites get what they want - whether that means getting the racist to vote your way, or just saying racism is the ONLY reason you don't get your way. I liken that to Mr Obama's claim that mere racism is what makes so many dead set against our own TPP. Do you think it's racist to vote against Fast Track just because racism has been used in the past against Mr. Obama? To me, this is the shitty, triangulated world we live in now, where sometimes, the guy who seems only like a racist shill may actually have a point of fact.