Open Thread 2 JUL 19 ~ New Moon


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Sakonnet Peace Alliance,

Below is a poem that Jana Porter read at our vigil yesterday morning. We thought that everyone should have a copy….

After the poem is an interesting web page that Jana has suggested we look at and in particular comments regarding open borders..

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Poem by Warsan Shire

no one leaves home unless
home is the mouth of a shark
you only run for the border 
when you see the whole city running as well
your neighbors running faster than you

breath bloody in their throats

the boy you went to school with 
who kissed you dizzy behind the old tin factory
is holding a gun bigger than his body

you only leave home
 when home won’t let you stay.

no one leaves home unless home chases you

fire under feet

hot blood in your belly

it’s not something you ever thought of doing
 until the blade burnt threats into
 your neck
 and
even then you carried the anthem under 
your breath

only tearing up your passport in an airport toilet 
sobbing as each mouthful of paper
 made it clear that you wouldn’t be going back.

you have to understand,

that no one puts their children in a boat 
unless the water is safer than the land

no one burns their palms 
under trains 
beneath carriages

no one spends days and nights in the stomach of a truck 
feeding on newspaper
unless the miles travelled
 means something more than journey.


no one crawls under fences

no one wants to be beaten 
pitied
no one chooses refugee camps
 or strip searches where your
 body is left aching 
or prison,
 because prison is safer 
than a city of fire
 and one prison guard 
in the night 
is better than a truckload
 of men who look like your father


no one could take it

no one could stomach it

no one skin would be tough enough

the go home blacks

refugees

dirty immigrants

asylum seekers 
sucking our country dry

niggers with their hands out

they smell strange

savage

messed up their country and now they want 
to mess ours up


how do the words

the dirty looks

roll off your backs

maybe because the blow is softer
 than a limb torn off
or the words are more tender 
than fourteen men between
 your legs

or the insults are easier 
to swallow 
than rubble 
than bone
 than your childs body
 in pieces.


i want to go home,
 but home is the mouth of a shark 

home is the barrel of the gun

and no one would leave home
 unless home chased you to the shore

unless home told you 
to quicken your legs

leave your clothes behind

crawl through the desert

wade through the oceans 
drown

save 
be hunger

beg

forget pride

your survival is more important

no one leaves home until home is a sweaty voice in your ear 
saying-
leave,

run away from me now

i dont know what i’ve become
 but i know that anywhere 
is safer than here 

7 Reasons Why We Should Have Open Borders by Aisha Dodwell

https://newint.org/blog/2017/11/29/why-open-borders

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Thank you for sharing that lovely poem QMS. right on

Gale Storm Dark Moon 1957
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlrI0-VJrZ4 width:480 height:360]

--legal schmegal
California Launches Clampdown on Unlicensed Dispensaries

Businesses operating without a license are also warned that they face a clampdown from the authorities and that cannabis and cash will be confiscated.

“We believe that this campaign will directly impact consumer safety by clarifying that only cannabis purchased from licensed retailers has met the state’s safety standards, while sending a clear message to unlicensed businesses that they need to get licensed or shut down,” said Lori Ajax, chief of the Bureau of Cannabis Control.

It is multilingual and includes “extensive outreach” designed to educate consumers via a number of different channels. Messages include: what’s in your weed shouldn’t be a mystery; do you know what’s hiding in your counterfeit edibles; and does your oil have something to hide?

"cannabis and cash will be confiscated" the herb is DESTROYED, not donated to patients in need or anything positive, because scarcity is good capitalism. That's the system, corrupt cronies thrive and the rest get the boot. feh

jack boot face and a plastics nightmare on steroids
good luck california
shake shake shake
outlook not so good
disabled and homeless
are the next
nobody speaks out
because of course
sweep sweep sweep

This comment triggered by reading Fake News headlines this morning, a.k.a. Trump Central. omg wtf
"Exclusive: Trump shares plans to combat homelessness and mental illness in interview with Tucker Carlson"
I didn't watch it, just read some of the quotes. sieg heil

Nobody/No one 2020

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@eyo

That's funny. The Bureau of Cannabis Control. An almost recognized subsidiary of Cali Consumer Control. What makes them think cannabis can be controlled anyway?

Crazy

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@QMS sorry to see big cannabis also putting small food farmers out of business in California, already. Only quoting three paragraphs from a long article here, should read the whole thing to get the whole picture if you know what I mean. snap
How Santa Barbara County opened its doors to the world's largest marijuana farms

Erin Weber, a cannabis consultant with California Strategies, a Sacramento-based lobbying firm, drafted a letter last year for Williams to send to the Coastal Commission, urging it to certify the county’s cannabis regulations in the coastal zone.

“This is very faithful to what we discussed,” Williams responded in an email. “We will submit it without changes.” He told The Times that because the anti-cannabis side also supported the regulations, he saw no problem with signing the letter.

In the fall of 2017, Weber and her colleague Jared Ficker were lobbying hard to let growers on the registry cultivate with no limits. Williams’ calendar contains an entry on Sept. 4 for “Sailing Trip/Diving” with Ficker and Williams’ wife.

You should read how the registry was created, and then codified. fuck those guys mining the loophole to combine small permits in to yuge grows now harshing everyones buzz. Wineries are whining. lol Avocado prices still going up. wah

I met someone who literally worships cannabis, a Rastafarian. She opened my mind further, thanks a lot. Also listening to a yuge Bob Marley playlist brought back a lot of memories, and brought forth a new appreciation for his music and the struggles we already lived through. right on
Light Shine - Jesse Colin Young
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PEACE

--- video embed meta
I use the video box thingy on the editor toolbar every time to embed video now, thanks JtC it works great here from a PC running Slackware linux and its firefox browser. The second blue icon from the left, I click it and paste the URL from the address bar on the tube page, the one that has '/watch?v=' in it, e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyhpFs0cvfI
I just put 450 width and let computer figure the height. easy peasy
The Copy and Embed links provided by Google were recently crapified for me, I don't why. I thought it might be because I am never "logged in", I don't have any account and I never save their precious tracking cookies. I am fine with carp and no cookies, thanks. lol

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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Short of choking my computer, seems the only way to link tunes is thus and such...

John Lee Hooker with Van Morrison - Don't Look Back
https://youtu.be/0M-J4hV-nBE

Big Brother and the Holding Company - Combination of the Two (Live)
https://youtu.be/yxdTnLL2fec

Happy day all!

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@QMS

Short of choking my computer, seems the only way to link tunes is

..... on a single line, type a left square bracket, followed by the word "video:" (without quotes but with the colon). Paste the URL just to the right of the colon. Type a right square bracket just after that.

square brackets: [ ]

Easy-peasy. Let c99 worry about proportions, no computer choking required.

Smile

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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Sometimes (usually) the command line is still superior to any use of graphical user interface (GUI).

They call it GUI because it gums everything up!

Blum 3

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@QMS

Using my method, your links become:

John Lee Hooker with Van Morrison - Don't Look Back
[video:https://youtu.be/0M-J4hV-nBE]

Big Brother and the Holding Company - Combination of the Two (Live)
[video:https://youtu.be/yxdTnLL2fec]

Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

the poem needs to be shared. The comfortable people in the U. S. and even the not so comfortable, have forgotten their own history.

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@randtntx

You're right the poem needs to be shared. The comfortable people in the U. S. and even the not so comfortable, have forgotten their own history.

Indeed. Most of those who need to hear the poem won't, of course.

edit: changed title immediately after detecting boneheaded use of the same exact subject line on 2 different comments in this thread.

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides

And surprisingly did get likes and positive comments.

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

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Wow that poem. Makes me feel the same way I feel after I work on my climate crisis essay / blog. I must be raw. Ouch. But thanks. Beautiful first image. Endlessly being here now. Each moment is born unfolding. Now. Breathe.

Have a good one all

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My college roommate who lives near DC came to visit over the weekend. Busy days prior and then the event mostly kept me away from c99. The visit was wonderful btw.

So I have missed any discussions here about the debates. I can never bear to watch them directly, but depend on trusted commentators for the scoop.

I donate in very small amounts - like sometimes only a dollar. But I have donated to Bernie, Tulsi, Marianne, and Mike Gravel. I like Andrew's UBI talk as well. My comment is that at this stage of the game I appreciate these different positive voices. I also think it is cool when other candidates who I don't consider that progressive, say progressive things. Kamala scolding Joe was great. Julian Castro was excellent on immigration. One of my commentators even said that Kirsten had strong intelligent comments.

I am really glad that Marianne is in the mix. She is shaking it up.

I'd like to see some debate comments, although you guys might be tired of talking about it!

I-m so happy

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

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@mhagle

I will share it!

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

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Below is a poem that Jana Porter read at our vigil yesterday morning. We thought that everyone should have a copy….

Especially dfarrah. Blum 3

edit: changed title immediately after detecting boneheaded use of the same exact subject line on 2 different comments in this thread. (See my last Comment, above.)

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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after binge watching "Outlander" into the wee hours of night. My latest obsession. How I envy any writer with the ability to conjure up characters so real on a page, and on the screen, you feel you actually know them.

Felt the same way reading the poem you shared. Flesh and bones humanity driven to do what is fiercely instinctual. Survival.

May none of us here ever have to experience that first hand.

Be kind to one another today. No one really knows what journey the other is taking.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz Now I’m staying up too late also. Wink

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@TB mare

Glad you're enjoying it. It's definitely mesmerizing. For, er, various reasons. I've watched so many episodes in such a short time, I find myself humming the haunting theme song during the day. Lol.

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@Anja Geitz @Anja Geitz
enough that nobody is certain of its origin. I cannot say how many times different lyrics might have been set to the tune, but in the late 1800s there were two especially popular instances. One is a romantic take on the fate of Bonnie Prince Charlie, who was actually a self-indulgent aristocratic dumbfuck deserving of no such remembrances; Robert Louis Stevenson apparently concurred: the author of Treasure Island, Captains Courageous (sorry, that was Kipling), and, significantly, Kidnapped, which is set in the highlands after the 1745 Jacobite risings -- which of course provide the framework to the plot climax of season 2 of Outlander -- created an entirely different version not long after the Bonnie Prince Charlie song appeared.

The Outlander credits use the Stevenson lyric. The musical arrangement is by Bear McCreary, about whom I can tell you nothing -- not even a gender -- other than that McCreary's soundtracks invariably astonish me; McCreary was responsible for the themes and musical scores of Battlestar Galactica, Black Sails, and Outlander. The BG score includes one of the most monumental arrangements of All Along the Watchtower that I have ever heard.

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@UntimelyRippd

For the background of a song that has been playing in my head for the last few days. I had no idea it was that old. Fascinating that something someone wrote such a long time ago can reach through time and still touch our hearts. I actually found myself humming the song while I was at work yesterday. It certainly appears that the musical director of "Outlander" not only selected an evocative melody for the theme of the show, but one that apparently fits with the time as well.

So then, I gather you are watching the show too?

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@Anja Geitz
the first three seasons. it gets weirder. not that that's a bad thing.

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Weirder, you say? I hope that doesn't mean that more physically horrible things will happen to Jamie. I barely recovered from what happened to him in Wentworth Prison.

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@Anja Geitz
about my understanding of the nature of the portrayal of sexual violence in popular culture.

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@Anja Geitz
Either the imminent threat of, or perpetration of, sexual violence against women is simply a "standard" dramatic element of damn near all of our fiction. Sometimes, it is even portrayed erotically. I've never been excited by it, but, not being a woman, I've also never really related to it.

After watching the Wentworth scenes in Outlander, the biggest question in my mind was, "Why have women been willing to sit through so much of this kind of thing, for so long?" I realize that during the 80s especially there was some meaningful pushback, but that's not what I mean -- I'm not talking about activists demanding that society order men to stop making such stuff; I mean, how does the average woman reconcile such material with any concept of "entertainment" that would keep her watching Yet Another Woman Fighting Off An Attacker In Her Apartment scene? Do most women just tune it out, doing a mental fast-forward until the thing is done, and the plot can continue?

It's disconcerting.

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@Anja Geitz
attended this over the weekend, and was just as impressed as that reviewer -- and I've got tickets to see it twice, later in the season, when the days will be short enough that outdoor performance will begin at twilight and finish in dark, starry night.

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@UntimelyRippd

Sounds like a very interesting adaption of the play. Hope you enjoy it!

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@Anja Geitz
daughter, not son) played Puck in APT's production of Midsummer Night's Dream two years ago, and she was AWESOME.

actually, the whole thing was awesome, absolutely amazingly brilliant. i won't ever bother to see another production, because ... well, just because. this thing was definitive.

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@UntimelyRippd

Then again, by the time it got into Shakepeare's hand, the resemblance to the historical facts was already very faint and very loose. (Which never stopped Shakespeare, especially when he could turn a nice compliment to the ruling house - in this case the Stewarts, who claimed descent from Banquo.)

However, the actual Stewart descent is from the Breton seneschals of Dol, who were relative (i.e. post-Conquest) latecomers to the British Isles. "Banquo" never existed, nor did "Fleance".

It is unclear exactly when the Macduffs obtained the mormaership of Fife - the earliest records post-date Malcolm III. Whether there was a "thane of Fife" who turned his coat, or whether he was a convenient fictional figure, is highly debatable.

Finally, Shakespeare (or his sources) borrowed heavily from an earlier period of Scottish history to point a "moral" tale. It was an earlier king, King Duff, who was murdered in a castle where he was supposedly a guest. Duncan was not an old man, but a young and rather reckless one, and he made enemies more easily than most people make friends. His biggest howler of an error was ticking off Jarl Thorfinn of Orkney, who was very smart and very capable, thank you very much, and who kicked his butt all the way to Tarbat Ness. What exactly happened on the shore is a matter of much interpretation and dispute - some say Duncan died of his wounds, some say his own soldiers turned on him and fool-killed him. In any case, somebody had to clean up the mess, and Thorfinn wasn't interested.

Duncan, Thorfinn, and Macbeth were all first cousins, grandsons of king Malcolm II by his three daughters (Malcolm II had no surviving sons). Macbeth had an additional claim through his wife, the Lady Gruoch, whose father was Malcolm II's brother and whose son (by previous husband Gillecomgain) was also in line to inherit (he wound up being Macbeth's heir but was less competent even than Duncan, and was hunted down and killed).

Macbeth was actually a pretty good king, by the standards of the time: he built churches, didn't oppress the peasantry too much, tried to deal fairly with friends and enemies alike, and was generally popular enough that a number of families named sons for him (leading to a plethora of "mac Macbeths" in the next generation or two, and a lot of confusion for later genealogists). His only big worry, and it was a real one, was that Malcolm, Duncan's son, would grow up to be a warrior and come back with an army to claim the crown. (He did.)

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@TheOtherMaven
there is no recorded instance of burnham wood having ever come to dunsinane.

i, on the other hand, once went to glamis castle.

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@TheOtherMaven
play, i'll go to college and get a history degree, including spending a year in scotland studying scottish history.

oh wait ... i already did.

they gently corrected me when i pronounced "moray" (as in the Earl thereof) to rhyme with "foray", rather than a homophone of "murray".

here is a song commemorating the battle at which John Graham of Claverhouse, Viscount Dundee, lost his life leading a Jacobite army to victory against a force loyal to William II (during the first uprising in 1689). Claverhouse was nicknamed "Bonnie Dundee". Wikipedia claims this was in admiration for his fatal victory, but I have my doubts -- if you look at some of his portraits, you'll discover that unlike almost all other European aristocrats (including supposedly beautiful ones), Dundee was kinda hot.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Kp590Ovsw]

John_Graham_visc_Dundee_David_Paton.jpg

The lyrics were mostly written by Bobbie Burns. It's from the perspective of one of the survivors from William's army -- which may have been partly a political move by Burns. Even decades after the fact, one had to be a bit careful about writing admiringly of the Jacobites. The basic idea of the song is that this veteran is sitting somewhere, maybe in a tavern, and sees a young soldier -- probably a lieutenant -- boastfully showing off his spiffy new uniform and acting all macho an a' tha'. The vet confronts the greenhorn and gives him the lowdown on the reality of war.
Killiecrankie was an astonishing slaughter. The Jacobites trapped William's troops marching down a long defile, flanked on either side by a hillside and river. The Government troops made their way partly up the hill, and deployed in a 3-deep line. After a few hours of smack talk, the highlanders charged down the hill, taking 3 volleys of withering rifle fire. The highlanders then fired a single volley, dropped their muskets, and came at the redcoats with swords. They killed at least 2000 of the 3500-strong force. The highlanders themselves lost about 800 out of 2400, most of them from the rifle fire during their charge.
Those kind of casualties were almost unheard-of in a battle that involved no artillery. Anyone who made it out alive would have been pretty damned traumatized.

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Good friends there, QMS, thanks for sharing.

The GIF brings to mind a metaphor for this week ...

Barbecuing freedom on the fourth, as the world goes up in smoke.

Thanks, also, for the good read; step right up, purchase your citizenship here.

Organizing plants, sowing new seeds and cleaning room today.

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Will give your recommendations a try. Like to add a tune to the mix.
Peace vigil has been going on since the drumming before the Iraq fiasco.
Helps to be around compassion in these times.

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On Friday, we got a big boost from inside the DNC itself. Members introduced a resolution calling for the DNC to host a climate debate, or allow candidates to participate in an independent climate debate.
We have until the DNC votes on the resolution in August to turn up the pressure on Democratic Party officials around the country.

Really? DNC has to manage the message for two months before deciding to do what's right. OK then.

Ay yi yi

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