OT - "I don't care what they say

I won't live is a world without love." What a week! Like every other week in this new 'World as we find it'. How do we find it? Well ....the global war on terra is no longer a war on terra but a massive killing ground in the ME, and all kinds of the bloody nasty everywhere else. A justification for going full bore Orwell, Kafka, Huxley or any other Sci-Fi writer's, artists, flights of fancy. It just keeps turning, winding ever tighter and yet it's setting the world on fire. At what speed I think? Faster then the speed of light? Not likely A turning gyre, that coughs up the most amazing explanations ever concocted for the slaughters and the latest killing spree for and by degrees of profit, domination and securing our safety, life styles and geographic location. It's all in the Zones.

"THE SECOND COMING

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"

William Butler Yeats

So I look at the floor and I see it needs sweeping. Maybe not, maybe the dirty floor is the last thing that matters but I do know how to sweep the floor.so that makes me feel better. So anyway we got UK Tory twits backstabbing each other with tales of the ruling class putting their member's in dead pigs and claiming it's just youthful hi-jinks from the immoral 80's when we all fucked dead pig heads. What? The Hell Fire Club as I live and breath. These twits new and old and new are not fit to rule Britannia or anywhere on earth. Yet still they reign supreme and people in the UK and the US and all the western civilized people the non barbarians proclaim they are rational and fit to lead. No, not not any of these people they throw out are fit for anything other then being creepy and so weird you can't understand them.Who are these people and why do they have power?

Then we have the glorification of the infallible voice of God almighty in the form of some weasel Jesuit bishop from Argentina. With one hand the pontificating chief Holy Moly woo woo Catholic cult leader says we all should all care about all these dreadful ills the word faces. He looks like pure evil to me. He is going to canonize Junipero Serra. Great that's cool what a dude. My little brother 8 years old said on seeing the giant crucifix in San Juan Capistrano 'look what they did to that poor Indian'. He was right.

The missions were primarily designed to bring the Catholic faith to the native peoples. Other aims were to integrate the neophytes into Spanish society, and to train them to take over ownership and management of the land. As head of the order in California, Serra not only dealt with church officials, but also with Spanish officials in Mexico City and with the local military officers who commanded the nearby presidio (garrison).

Serra was beatified by Pope John Paul II on 25 September 25, 1988, and canonized by Pope Francis on September 23, 2015, at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C., during that pope's first visit and first canonization ceremony to be held in the United States.[3] The declaration of Serra as a Catholic saint by the Holy See was controversial with some Native Americans who criticize Serra's treatment of their ancestors and associate him with the suppression of their culture

So a week of Popism (what a guy), dead pig fuckin by Tory twits in power and ceiling wax and more and more bs. from twit psychopath's across the universe. Who believes this shit? Meanwhile lets kill some more people cause they live some where that threatens us and listen to the Holey Rollers who preach the gospel according to hey the Jesuit's are liberal the Pope is a force for good.

Meanwhile back home at the endless bloody global vicious war and global economic screw people are dying, crying, going broke and fleeing for their lives. Why? Ask yourself why? This is not inevitable in any way. It's Chinatown writ large. Immaculate conceptions my ass. Get these religious and political leaders off my face. There is no need for this shit we need to pry these psycho's who declare they are either the voice of god or the rulers of the world off the face of humanity.

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Yesterday lot lizzard (lotlizzard) gave links to two articles by T. P. Wilkenson

I don't think he has written any books and I had never heard of him before

I looked him up and found an article on the Phoenix program the US ran in Vietnam, in short, death squads, Inc.

The article was published last year.

Last year I read Nick Turse's book "Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam." Shocking. War on indigenous people (and other things, this topic has been on my mind in the last few years). I went to Nick's book to see what he had to say about the Phoenix program which was not many pages because the whole book is about the atrocities we committed. His main discussion is on pages 190 to 191 and here is the final paragraph before the end of the chapter.

While no exact figures are available, there can be little question that such events occurred in shocking numbers. They were the very essence of the war: crimes that went on all the time, all over Sout Vietnam, for years and years. When you consider this, along with the tallies of dead, wounded and displaced, the scale of the suffering becomes almost unimaginable -- almost as unimaginable as the fact the somehow, the US, all that suffering was more or less ignored as it happened, and then written out of history even more thoroughly in the decades since.

I really trust and respect Nick Turse. He gives a link to an earlier publication of T. P. Wilkenson which to me is a kind of a confirmation.

I have been on vacations with Overseas Adventure Travel and seen the way that indigenous people live on the land with farming by hand and animinals and a limited amount of equipment and chemicals - gas and fertilizer. To me, that is how the world needs to be in the future to protect the earth. In Morocco, they have been farming for thousands of years in the same areas. I didn't realize that Modernity, Neo Liberal Economics, Capitalism, was hell bend on destroying cultures, villages, people, land, etc. That is who we are in our foreign policy

From the article by T. P. Wilkerson which I am going to link below. I have a good sense of the founding generation, but he says

To place the Phoenix Program in its proper historical perspective however it is necessary to grasp the genealogy of the regime responsible for its inception. This regime predates Vietnam. This author has reiterated elsewhere that it is scarcely possible to understand the role of political warfare in the US without returning to 1776, to the moral turpitude of the Founding Fathers.4 These leading lights of the nascent American empire began their journey to Vietnam when they declared independence from the British Empire in order to preserve that peculiar institution known as chattel slavery that the mother country was being forced to abolish in the rest of its colonies.

T. P. W. sounds like Chris Hedges and it hurts to hear this and not sure how much I agree with it

The fundamental structures created by the Constitution were in fact designed to prevent majority rule and protect the political terror apparatus maintained by the elite for that purpose. For example, the system of indirect election, the gerrymandering of electoral districts to favour slaveholders and the maintenance of the infamous slave patrols.5 Under the banner of “Indian Removal”—an early form of what would later be called “pacification”—the Anglo-American settler elite proceeded to seize the entire North American continent. This later became known inter alia as the Monroe Doctrine and Manifest Destiny. In fact this was nothing less than the annihilation and/ or enslavement of non-whites from sea to shining sea. Largely oblivious to this constant commercial adventure, wave after wave of European immigrants were deliberately co-opted while serving as arrow or cannon fodder until with the annexation of California only British Canada and Mexico south of the Rio Bravo had not been conquered. The wide Pacific was opened to further invasion and exploitation.

this rings totally true

The greatest mystery—or better said, mystification—to be overcome is the apparent contradiction between America’s proclaimed principles and the intensity of its covert operations practices. Philip Agee once called the CIA, “capitalism’s invisible army”. He recalled that one of his first tasks as a junior CIA officer had been to conduct background checks on Venezuelan applicants for jobs at the local subsidiary of a major US oil company.9 In fact, his conclusion after quitting the “Company” was that capitalism could never be maintained without an extensive military and secret police force to suppress opposition to it.

this rings totally true - destroy local culture to create markets and capitalism

The term “infrastructure” denoted the fact that Vietnamese society, esp. in the rural areas where the Saigon regime was scarcely present, functioned without any need for the US clients. Although the term is also used as a euphemism for “cadre”, members of the Vietnamese Communist Party in the South, this limited use obscures the strategy underlying Phoenix and the US regime’s presence. In order to create the “Saigon product” so to speak, there had to be a need for it—namely an administrative apparatus reaching into the village level which could make demands on the population and at least nominally satisfy local wishes. It is fair to say that no one who had spent any time in the country believed that there was any demand for “Saigon product” among the peasantry. Hence the only way to create and stimulate that demand was to reach into the depths of rural life and do everything possible to destroy the indigenous structures, both economically and socially. Ideally this vacuum would be filled speedily by US-subsidised Saigon infrastructure. This was the underlying theory of the strategic hamlet program and all the USAID activities.23 Due to the fact that the Saigon regime was and remained unable and unwilling to provide the substitute infrastructure, the nation building (counter-insurgency) programs never acquired the varnish of acceptability that they enjoyed among the middle classes in the West

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The whole article has examples from Philippines, Cuba (19 the century), Latin America, Korea, Japan, etc to provide context for the Phoenix program ...

The Phoenix Program: America’s Use of Terror in Vietnam
by T.P. Wilkinson / August 9th, 2014

http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/08/the-phoenix-program-americas-use-of-te...

and given the wars today, they are not out of line with our past

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and very much appreciate lotlizard's
bringing him to my/our attention. Both
the links lotlizard provided as well as
the one you cite today are well worth
checking out - as well as the whole
Dissident Voice site. My thanks to you
both.

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i think that you'll find wilkerson's assertions about the founder's fears of majority rule (they called it "too much democracy" back then - you can find plenty of statements by founders deprecating democracy if you poke around) far easier to understand if you take a peek at this book: Unruly Americans and the Origins of the Constitution. i recommend it to people a lot, it lays out the case in pretty simple terms and is delivered in pleasant, engaging prose.

some further helpful background can be gleaned by looking into the issues around repaying the rich people who funded the revolution and the coin in which they demanded repayment. their terms were incorporated by the founders into the constitution and was the basis of the federal government assuming the states debts. (many of the founders and their cronies had interests in both repayment of direct debts as well as speculative returns on paper that they had purchased from revolutionary soldiers which was to be repaid some years later.)

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great OT, shaz, thanks. Sorry I've been so scarce lately, my internet connection has gone haywire and my ISP can't explain it. I think I'm going to switch carriers. I'll be around as much as I can, thanks for carrying on.

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because that's a problem, I guess

ailed Republican presidential candidate Scott Walker may feel some vindication in this number: 41 percent of Americans say that if a wall is built along the Mexican border, one should also be erected on the Canadian one. And yes, the same percentage favors a wall erected along the nation's southern border.

Meanwhile, 3/4 of Americans say the country is no longer great

Americans are “fed up” with politics, suspect the wealthy are getting an unfair edge, and think the country is going in the wrong direction, according to a new Bloomberg Politics poll that lays bare the depth and breadth of the discontents propelling outsider candidates in the Republican presidential field.

The survey shows that 72 percent of Americans think their country isn't as great as it once was—a central theme of front-runner Donald Trump's campaign. More than a third prefer a presidential candidate without experience in public office.
...
And while a majority of 54 percent say they're moving closer, not further away, from their hopes for their career and/or finances, there are other indications of simmering economic discontents: a much larger majority—70 percent—say they see the gap between rich and everyone else as getting bigger. And 73 percent say that the tax code should be reformed so the wealthy pay proportionately more than middle-class people, a theme that's been picked up by candidates running the ideological gamut from Trump to Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders in the Democratic race.

Nearly three-quarters of Americans say they're fed up with politics and think it amounts to “people playing games,” while 59 percent say the political system is broken and the nation needs to “just start over.” Yet if citizens are disgusted, they are not cynical about democracy. Only 30 percent think their vote doesn't matter and most believe that the political process is important. Just 19 percent agree with the statement “I'm not affected by politics—it doesn't matter which party is in power.” Asked for their review of the 2016 campaign so far, 53 percent rated it “entertaining.”

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My first set of company just left and the next batch arrives tomorrow. Then on Saturday morning, I am having a big breakfast for my husband's riding friends before they head off for the start of the fall Mountains to Coast Ride. The guys are driving to Waynesville Saturday afternoon and camping out there before the ride begins on Sunday morning. They have decided to camp out during the entire one week ride, but they all have purchased the meal plan so they do not have to worry about cooking or finding a restaurant to eat at. This ride draws about 1,000 participants each year.

I just learned that the route for the first day comes through Brevard and has a rest stop at the Oscar Blues Brewery. I might just have to go by and see the guys come through. They will have ridden along the Blue Ridge Parkway and climbed Mount Pisgah before descending down the winding US 276 through the Pisgah Forest before they hit the rest stop. Mount Pisgah will be the highest point of the entire route.

I hope everyone is doing well today. I am probably naive to think so, but I am one of those who still has hope for mankind. But in order to address the biggest issues we as human beings are facing, we must be willing to forge alliances with those who we may not agree with on everything. Finding our common grounds is important if we are survive as a species. I am still willing to work to that end.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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for a short while before it all falls apart again, plunging the people of the future into deep despair for a long time until it gets better again...for a few years.

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Most people don't know this, but the Federal Reserve is divided into regions, and each regions releases a report about economic activity in its region for that month.
Well, things are not going well in six regions (note: the top one is Chicago)
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Plus there is a problem with durable goods order, which are negative for 7 straight months.
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However, for some perspective, what are
the other six regions reporting? Also, are
some regions more "important" than
others wrt economic activity, and, if so,
why?

Thanks!

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emptywheel has as a very insightful
take on Pope Francis' speech at her
website as well as the complete text of
his speech:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/09/24/pope-francis-nails-the-rhetoric-of...

We have so few leaders on the world
stage in these dark days. In my book,
Pope Francis is one of them. I encourage
everyone to, please, put aside your
prejudices and preconceptions and read
(or listen to) what this man has to say.
The further expansion or winding down
of WW3 - which Pope Francis
acknowledged over a year ago has
already begun - depends on all of us who
believe that war is not the answer
working together to put an end to this
madness before it's ... too late.

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that the Pope came to speak before Congress. I am not a Catholic, but I do recognize the world wide impact that a Pope such as Pope Francis can have upon the minds and hearts of people. I do not agree with him on all issues, but on the two biggest issues facing us world wide, war and climate change, I do agree whole heartedly with him. This is one of the examples to which I was referring in my earlier comment that we must find ways to forge alliance with those that we may not always agree in order to find a way to save human kind. We must find ways to work together and quit allowing ourselves to be divided. The future of our children depends upon it.

Thank you for posting this.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

For those interested in Sanders' reaction to the Pope's speech, Charles Pierce has an article in Esquire on just that, "Pope Francis Reminds Congress that Government Should Serve Human Beings":

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a38210/pope-francis-a...

Of particular interest is that Francis named four "great Americans": Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Jr., Dorothy Day, and Thomas Merton. Yes, that Dorothy Day!!

From.Pierce's article:


He did not use Dorothy Day idly here. He knew exactly what he was doing, and that is what put the glow on Bernie Sanders. "I think this would be perhaps one of the very, very few times that somebody as radical, that somebody as committed to social justice as Dorothy Day's name has been mentioned," Sanders said. "Somebody can check it out, but I suspect that her name has not been mentioned terribly often."

(h/t Peterr commenting at emptywheel's
article)

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