Why No One Should Protest the Inauguration on Friday

[What's the Message, Mr. Gardiner will be back next week. I'm using the Open Thread this week to discuss the upcoming Inauguration, because, well, I think it's important, and I obviously needed to write it soon. And don't worry, Lookout, I got your message and next week your suggestion will be featured! By the way, if anybody else wants to send me suggestions for movies or television shows or books to review, have at it!]

First, a disclaimer: I believe absolutely in the right to peaceful protest, including the form described in the first amendment: petitioning the government for redress of grievances. So, yes, I believe you should BE ABLE TO go down to Farragut Square or wherever, and protest against anything from Donald Trump to factory farming. Hell, I even believe that the pro-lifers who annually clog up the Metro while singing annoying Christian hymns at the top of their lungs in enclosed cars underground should BE ABLE TO do exactly what they're doing. (I wish they'd do it with a little more consideration for their fellow citizens, but that's another matter.)

But I also believe that anybody using their rights--not to mention their time and travel money--to protest the inauguration of Donald Trump is on a fool's errand. There are many reasons for this, but here's the main one:

NOBODY MAKING LESS THAN 450k/YEAR SHOULD BE PROTESTING IN SUPPORT OF ANY POLITICIANS OR POLITICAL PARTIES, WHICH ARE NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE, UNDER THEIR CONTROL, RESPONSIVE TO THEIR INFLUENCE, OR SYMPATHETIC TO THEIR AIMS.

I accept this as an axiom, and will continue to do so until we manage to invent, at the very least, a new Republic which affords everyone in the society some measure of imperfect representation. That means reducing institutional corruption AND institutional racism to the point that the idea of writing your Congressman to weigh in on national policy doesn't amount to the punchline to a very tired joke, and to the point that the expectation of colorblind justice isn't a total absurdity.

I'm putting this as carefully as I can, because I have been helped by a Congressman's office in the recent past. Believe it or not, there are still a few good people left in the system, though I hear that more are retiring or making a career change every day. And while they usually can't help you on matters of policy, which, it increasingly seems, arrive in Congressional committees like those pre-fab sandwiches you get out of vending machines--already assembled in a sealed container, all decisions already made--they can sometimes help you in matters of constituent services.

I don't want to insult those peeople who are still attempting to do their jobs aboard a sinking ship, especially given that some of them have been decent and even kind to me. But on most matters of policy, it is useless to simply appeal to the government, or to anyone in politics, and it has been for some time. In fact, the main purpose of political parties is to provide a graveyard for such appeals. It is also one of the three main jobs of government: providing a military for the use of the wealthy, redirecting money into the hands of the top 5%, and deflecting, obstructing, and re-defining complaints from the masses (I include "redefining" because sometimes, when a complaint or appeal has a great deal of intrinsic power or justification--when it is, as Jefferson said, self-evident--it's necessary to perform, essentially, a character assassination on the appeal itself. For instance, if Wall St busts the economy by gambling on whether people can pay their mortgages or not and a lot of aggrieved homeowners and workers complain, you might need to redefine the problem as a bunch of workers buying houses they can't afford.)

Because the primary function of politicians and their parties is to provide a graveyard for the appeals of anyone without power, it is a fool's errand to engage in any form of protest or political action which supports any politicians or political parties. Those institutions and people are not working for you. You're asking them to. Asking them to is unlikely to work. They're far more likely to keep working for the people who are paying them and who can end their careers through well-placed media hatchet jobs. Why are you giving them your time, energy, and support?

Of course, everyone is claiming that when they organize (for instance) a Woman's Protest against Donald Trump that that protest can't be assumed to express support for Hillary Clinton. They're not supporting politicians or political parties--they're just opposing some. But this is disingenuous in the current political context, and only retains its power as an argument because we are, as a people, both individualistic and atomistic in our thinking, by which I mean that nothing is seen contextually, systemically, relationally. If we looked at things in relation to one another (like, for instance, how Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump politically relate to one another, and indeed, depend entirely on each other's existence for the fragments of political credibility they possess) it would be obvious that, while the election is over, the campaigns are, horribly, ongoing. The national discussion is still revolving around Hillary vs Donald, like a planet circling a dead star. The election failed to sever the campaigns' spinal cords, and so they totter onward, desiring mainly to eat our brains.

All you have to do is look around my home town to see that the electorate's disgust at being saddled with Donald Trump is being expressed through increased support for Hillary Clinton. There are far more Hillary bumper stickers today than there were in October or November. In my home town, support for Hillary is now being used as a way to say "I oppose Trump," "I'm not racist!" and "I'm not sexist!"

The Clinton political machine has created a situation in which you cannot criticize Donald without benefiting Hillary. They accomplished this mainly by creating a dualistic system of thought with delusions of inevitability, and by manipulating the public into accepting that inevitability as fact. It has gotten to the point that a politics which seeks an alternative to both Donald and Hillary is almost inconceivable. Suggesting that you want such an alternative is tantamount to saying you want to grow wings and fly. People nod sympathetically--yeah, we all wanted that when we were young--and then return to the "real world" in which Hillary and Donald are the only options, without, apparently, any understanding of the fact that this "real world" has more in common with an Ed Wood movie set than with the law of gravity or conservation of matter.

There currently is no political context, no neurolinguistic context, no cultural context, which makes criticism of Donald Trump separable from support for Hillary Clinton. It doesn't matter whether you intend your criticism of Trump to be independent of support for Clinton--it won't be heard that way by the vast majority of people. (This deserves an essay of its own; freedom of speech is basically useless without a likelihood of being accurately heard.) The few who can hear a criticism of Trump and not immediately leap to support of Clinton are generally those who have the least exposure to the mainstream press--and guess what? Most of those people are probably already on the same page with you. They don't need you to tell them that Donald Trump is horrible. In order to reach a larger number of people with the message that you're protesting Donald Trump but you also think Hillary is a horrible lying warmonger who works for Wall St and thinks it's funny to kill a man by jabbing a bayonet into him, you have to create the political context that will allow them to hear your message as meaningful. Otherwise, what they'll hear is I want to grow wings and fly. Maybe take a stroll on the surface of Mars without a spacesuit... That's a best-case scenario. Probably all they'll hear is argle bargle argle bargle bargle...

If not to rehabilitate Hillary Clinton's reputation and re-emphasize the idea that American voters should not be trusted with the choice of leadership, what do people expect to accomplish through this protest?

What distinguishes protests from other political acts is that they bring people together physically in the same space, so that they can see the real live people who agree and disagree with them. Because of this, protest has a visceral impact on the people who are in that place in that time. If, for whatever reason, the media decides to put the protest on the air, the impressive quality of an assembled crowd will probably also have, for good or ill, an emotional impact on those watching. This is the part of protest that aims to educate and persuade the populace, and in the current case, it will do little or nothing outside of funneling power and credibility to Hillary Clinton and her allies. The legacy media will report on the protests in such a way that does exactly that, as they've been doing with everything they report for the past 10 months. Some of the electorate, after being pummeled with horrible messaging and demoralizing political outcomes for 10 months, has accepted the duopoly as the bounds of the political universe, and they will accept the media's framing of the protests without question. Many of the protesters will, in fact, intend to be heard in just that way, because they too have accepted those political bounds. Those among the protesters who see a larger political universe will be reported in exactly the same way as those who don't, and their message will be reduced to the same thing: America made a mistake in not putting Hillary in office. Bad America. No dog biscuit.

Second, protests involve an implied threat that future action will be taken if the protest is not heeded. This is the part of protest that aims to influence the powerful and change policy. It hasn't been working very well for the past thirty years. Most American protests rest on the assumption that politicians need the support of the people in order to get and keep their jobs. They implicit threat is that politicians will lose their jobs if they don't pay heed when the people get angry enough to protest. But that threat requires both visibility (currently under the primary, but not absolute, control of the legacy media) and a functioning electoral system to be made good. In other words, if the media can prevent most constituents from knowing about a protest, probably the protest won't end a politician's career (a well-placed phone call from a rich man who owns the network could end a career much more easily).

Of course, we at C99 have an answer for this, as do all those who use new media to express dissenting views. But as supporters of Bernie Sanders recently found out, it takes more than independent media to break the duopoly's grip on American politics (or, more to the point, the wealthy's death grip on same). If the legacy media can't keep voters in line, you can rely on manipulations of the electoral process at multiple levels--everything from hacks of voter registration data to exclude people from voting in Democratic primaries, to outright purging hundreds of thousands of voters off the rolls altogether, to reducing the number of polling places immediately before the election, to lying and saying your candidate has already won the nomination when she hasn't (turns out this is great for depressing opposition turnout). Remarkably, that's only a few of the means that were used to manipulate the results of the last election.

Politicians are not particularly concerned with pleasing protesters, or even with fending off their anger, because they know that the wealthy are a far greater danger to their careers than the masses are. People will, no doubt, point to the incredibly brave Standing Rock Sioux and their allies as proof that protest works and that politicians still respond to it. But the truth of that matter is twofold: first, the victory that was won constitutes a bureaucratic speedbump, not an end to the project. The fact that the Dakota Access pipeline workers are still present and the bridge between the camps and Bismarck still blockaded makes that obvious. Secondly, and perhaps most importantly: the Army Corps of Engineers denied the permit only when it became clear that military veterans were adopting this issue as their own to the extent of putting their bodies between the protesters and those attacking them. Now *that* is an implicit threat the system is likely to wake up for. They don't care how the Standing Rock Sioux and their allies vote. They don't care what they're using their freedom of speech to express, or what their appeal to the government is. They care that pro-government, pro-DAPL forces might end up on camera firing on decorated soldiers. That would present them with several problems they don't especially want to deal with. In other words, there was a non-electoral threat to the establishment at work in that protest--so the establishment made a tactical (and probably temporary) retreat.

Is there a non-electoral threat at work in the anti-Trump protests? If so, what is it? That people will refuse to accept a peaceful transition of power? If that were true, I'd be stunned that the same people who refused to revolt in 2000 and 2004, when there was actual, proven, verifiable election fraud and voter suppression in the general election, are now willing to declare for revolution. I'd also be disgusted that the same people who barely acknowledged the evidence of election fraud and voter suppression in the Democratic primaries this year are similarly willing, now, to declare themselves ready for revolution. But quite apart from that: if people are ready to engage in revolution, what is their revolution's aim? I get that they don't want to transfer power to Trump; who *do* they want to transfer power to? What do they mean when they say he's not their President? If he isn't, who is? Are they asking for an entirely new election (not unreasonable, if you took it all the way back to the primaries and banned any further campaigning), or do they have someone picked out to annoint?

I determined during this election that neither Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump was worth losing one real friendship. As I wade through this dystopian aftermath, I'll state it even more strongly: neither Hillary, nor Trump, nor any politician, nor any political party, nor any of the wealthy who own them, is worth a single hair on my fellow citizens' heads. (Even the ones I don't like.) I look at the inauguration protest, and I see an establishment-sponsored Punch-and-Judy show, with the "deplorable" Trump voters as one puppet and, I guess, leftie activists like me, especially those who are also feminists, like me, as the other puppet. For the record, I decline to participate in a prefabricated semi-astroturfed Civil War 2.0, or any potential kickoff event for same, because egging ordinary people on to hate and hurt each other is a particularly ugly version of political flimflam. My fellow citizens who make less than 450K a year, even the ones I can't stand, are far less to blame for the destruction of our future than any of the multimillionaires and billionaires and politicians and media personalities who created, at great expense, the political world I am expected to swallow as the only possible reality.

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But my "representative" in Congress is boycotting so congratulations goal achieved.

I think every one, especially young people should show up! That is the hard part of democracy in my view, the showing up to participate part. Mass solidarity can be a force for good.

Seems to me there is fear of violence in the mainstream zeitgeist now. Maybe I'm less afraid because I am not watching the same news outlets? I don't know. Anyone else want to try not watching news outlets until after the inauguration? Wink Experiments in peace.

Speaking of peace, many activists get training in non-violent resistance, it is part of being an activist. So there will be agent provocateurs at the demonstrations, from who knows where, but there will also be trained activists and non-violent resistors.

May peace prevail. Thanks for the thoughtful essay.

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I will be spending the 20th with my dog. My first road sign, and my iPhone had sucked the battery dry, bummer. All charged up, the sign engages NYSEG, local power company, sold to overseas, to stop local pipelines and no go Eminent Domain.Ironic, since I own 20 acres, two corners of a Revolutionary War Military Lot. Stolen from the Cayuga nation.

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I am a firm believer in public demonstrations involving issues, not people. Any protest against Donald Trump is simply an exercise in trying to change what cannot be changed. Trump was elected President and nothing is going to change that.

However, that said, I am a big believer in social movements and one of the ways a social movement can gain steam is through public displays of free speech or even protests. The Occupy Movement had great value in that it showed many people who were suffering in silence that they were not alone. My four and a half years in the Peace vigil was very rewarding in that we were able to engage in conversations with a wide range of people from various political perspectives and more often than not, we were able to find a lot of common ground. The political parties and our government have done everything to divide us and to promote false narratives that keep we the people apart. Anything we can do to both educate and bridge those gulfs is of value.

Protesting the inauguration of Trump has no real value. and could actually prove to be a negative for those of us who want real change in our government. But holding rallies and vigils on the big issues facing all Americans can have a great deal of positive effect. The rallies or protests are not about influencing the politicians, but creating a critical mass of people to effect real social change that cannot be ignored by the politicians. When the politicians and systems continue to ignore the needs of the masses, at some point, it will boil over. FDR recognized that and created the New Deal as a result.

So I believe in protests of the right sort and social movements as a result. Often the changes that result can happen very dramatically and appear to occur overnight. Chris Hedges has recounted the fall of the Berlin Wall and how even the protest leaders were taken by surprise as to how fast it happened.

So maybe I am just a naive dreamer.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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@gulfgal98 You're not a naive dreamer; in fact, the kind of protest you did was far more effective than the upcoming ones will be, because its very nature created strong local relationships. Strong local relationships, leading to strong local communities, is one of our greatest needs, IMO.

Having done a great many big one-shot protests, I can say that I've rarely, over the years, come away from one with even a single new friendship. Now maybe that's because I'm not good at making friends, but my sense is that people basically BYOB--they bring their friends with them, protest, and leave again with the same friends they brought.

Occupy was different, because it was persistent (Standing Rock shares this characteristic). Your protest was also different because, while it wasn't continuous, it was persistent intermittently (like a repeated radio signal). People had repeated contact over many years, if I'm understanding it correctly.

What I'm saying in this essay is that, if we're going to raise energy, we should pay some attention to where it goes and what is made of it. I don't see how this energy people are raising this week is going to do much that's helpful. If I were interested in creating a renaissance for feminism, I'd rather go to some feminist websites and meet people there and then use Meetup than couch it in a weekend of anti-Trump rallies, because the Democratic Party's version of feminism is bad for feminism.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal I believe that we need to distinguish between issue protests and others. Simply protesting Trump is ridiculous, his election is no less valid than anybody else's in the recent past. However, the election of a president doesn't mean that said person has a mandate for all of his or her policies. Example - nobody I ever knew protested LBJ, per se, only his damn escalation and legitimization of the war and the way his government conducted it and dealt with dissent at home.

Demonstrations against a policy serve in part to inform or teach, but also to signal that the policy in question lacks assent from a large body of persons. Others, who might also oppose said policy can then see that they aren't alone and unsupported. The idea is not that the one initial action will accomplish anything, but that it can inspire further actions which can eventually lead to a mass movement. Sometimes such movements can lead to change,

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal The Peace vigil went continuously once a week for over thirteen years. I was only involved in the last four and a half years. Our number dropped due to most of the participants aging out until there were only two of us left. I used to say that it was all about the conversations.

With Occupy Tallahassee, when we would go to the Capitol during session, again much of it was about the conversations we had with folks who had a negative impression of Occupy. I do not know how many minds we changed with either group, but I do know that with the Peace vigil, the overwhelming majority of the conversations ended up in agreement on some points, even when they began as adversarial.

What I really learned is that most people want to be heard and treated with respect. That opens up the paths to finding commonality. This is exactly why I despise so many Democrats (aka Markos and his band of sycophants) who are willing to write off whole groups of people for not voting right. Reaching out to them and listening to their side may lead to an alliance against the greater enemy.

Thank you for this essay today. It is leading to some great discussion.

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@gulfgal98 Thanks, gg! Smile

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In 1973 at the age of 18 I went to the protest. Found a site of pictures from the event. https://www.flickr.com/photos/italiangerry/sets/72157594321325107/
Brought back some memories... Nixon ended the Vietnam war shortly thereafter.

I've got a few friends heading up to DC for the women's march. It surprised me that there will be a little march here on the mountain (in Mentone, AL) on Sat. that we may go to...mainly to stand in solidarity with those trying to work for people and the planet. However it looks like rain all day

Here's what they sent out as the rationale

March along sidewalks of Mentone in solidarity for Women's Rights and the Women's March in Washington DC on January 21st. This is ​a ​
March FOR the following issues:
WE MARCH in Solidarity with ALL Women.
WE MARCH in POWER and STRENGTH.
OUR Strength comes from our HEARTS and our INNER WISDOM.
WE MARCH for the GREAT DIVERSITY OF OUR BEAUTY
• We define beauty without rankings, scales or cultural boxes of what is beautiful.
WE MARCH that each and every woman feels and knows SAFETY in every aspect of her life.
We MARCH for our deep CREATIVITY and INTUITION that guides us to our deep passions.
WE feel and know that our power increases as we move together in SOLIDARITY and ONENESS, and we appreciate the men that walk with us in solidarity.
WE are SEEN. We are HEARD. We are VALUED. We are HONORED.
We MARCH for ACCESS to quality EDUCATION for all women and girls.
We MARCH so that all women and girls can see and express their own LEADERSHIP and WORTH.
WE MARCH for the POWER of CHOICE
• To decide what is RIGHT for our own bodies
• To decide who TOUCHES our own bodies and when
• To decide how I EXPRESS my sexuality and whom I choose to MARRY
We MARCH for REVERENCE for the ultimate MOTHER, Our shared Mother EARTH. She is ALIVE and we BREATHE and feel her SACREDNESS.
We MARCH for equal PAY and access to MEANINGFUL JOBS for ALL women.
We HONOR the WISDOM of the ELDER WOMEN/ the GRANDMOTHERS and we celebrate the wild CREATIVITY of the YOUNG.
We MARCH for DIGINTY and RESPECT for every woman with every step we take.
We CELEBRATE the full range of our DIVERSITY of color, races, body sizes, power, intelligence, sexuality, physical abilities and our voices; WE have the right to be here to express ourselves and our power in our unique and individual ways.
We MARCH with our HANDS on our HEARTS and our other hand outstretched and we cry out: LOVE ON FOR WOMEN!
WE STAND FOR MORE LOVE, NOT LESS. WE LOVE ON OURSELVES, EACH OTHER AND OUR COUNTRY. WE ARE THE FABRIC OF THIS COUNTRY AND WE CLAIM THESE RIGHTS!
After the March we will gather back at the Town Square for short speeches and sharings. Bring signs that are stating what you are FOR in Women's Rights, please do not use your signs to denounce any political figures. Bring a chair if you stay for speeches. This is a short march because it will only take place on the sidewalks and then we turn around and return to the Town Square

I think marches help to connect and empower people. Do they effect policies and outcomes? Rarely.

Here's hoping we are all empowered to live rich rewarding lives!

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@Lookout Just that diatribe is an excellent start. And Gulfgal is correct that a critical mass is essential. We can each pick up followers our own way. And Grandmother-age people can be wildly creative!

It is coming.

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@Lookout I will be joining the Women's March in Santa Fe with some girlfriends. My girlfriend is coming up from Silver City, where there is also a Women's March on Saturday. There's a march in ABQ, as well, but I prefer to go to Santa Fe since I work in ABQ and get tired of the city. In any event, there are Women's Marches all over NM on Saturday and I'm proud to march for women.

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@Raggedy Ann huh, we are just now on a roadtrip and will be in Santa Fe on Saturday. Where will it be? Be cool to run into you, Raggedyann.

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@Lookout Thanks Lookout, and thanks Cant Stop the Signal for this discussion. I don't feel too confident with words, that's why there's copy pasta. heh. Here's a part of the beginning of a pretty pretty good lecture, if there was a permaculture party I'd vote for that.
Permaculture and the Sacred: A Conversation with Starhawk https://youtu.be/zV-MsQYrW0g?t=1m20s

One of the things we talk about in permaculture is the concept of edges, or in biology they call them ecotones, the places where two different systems meet are places of great dynamism. They can be places of great tension but they can also be the most creative most diverse aspects that kind of create a third system that is often richer than either of the other two.

So if you are out there looking to find the deer, the deer don't hang out in the deep deep forest, and they don't live out in the middle of the plains. What they really like are those places where the meadow meets the woods, where they can go out to graze and go back in to the forest for cover. And if you are looking at something like the ocean, where the ocean meets the shore there are all these tremendous places of great richness and diversity and vitality because that connection of those two systems creates so many different niches where different forms of life can live.

The lecture is one hour long, with Q&A at the end. For me it connects everything, and proposes a sane "system" to work toward every day. In fact it is already happening, just not critical mass yet. Dang! that video makes me smoke hope every time. "embody a yes" "those who are proposing a different kind of globalization" "if we had we not done all that protesting" "feed what you want to grow" blah blah blah. Thanks.

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@eyo Eyo, I think this is one of the few avenues that would be fruitful to pursue. Starhawk has been pretty damned good about politics for a long time.

But while I see how Occupy was connected to this set of ideas, I don't see how protesting Trump will be.

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@Lookout @Lookout It sounds like the organizers see a few of the same pitfalls that I do, in that they don't want it focused on Trump or any politician. Given that it's a women's march the day after the Inauguration, and that Trump has been defined/has defined himself as a sexist, it probably will be received as a Trump protest no matter what they do. But I see where they're going with this, and where they're going confirms my belief that, over the past 35 years, the right wing has turned their religion into politics, and the left has turned their politics into religion.

It's now about witnessing to your internal spiritual beliefs and values, regardless of outcomes. As someone who used to be quite religious myself, I can respect that.

EDIT: Darn! this was meant to be a reply to Lookout.

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here in Denver at the Women's March on Saturday ( http://www.marchoncolorado.org/ ), not protesting the inauguration as such: that, I intend to ignore (clarified on edit). There is certainly a level of risk involved in any march, as the Denver PD has been known to shoot a lot of people by mistake over the past few years. However, they can't kill us all. We think that it is manageable, and worth it.

Second, protests involve an implied threat that future action will be taken if the protest is not heeded. This is the part of protest that aims to influence the powerful and change policy. It hasn't been working very well for the past thirty years.

That has been because very few people have been showing up. I suspect that over the next couple of years, more and more people will be in the streets- especially after the societal safety net has been completely looted and dismantled. It may have taken Trump to wake up enough people to actually make a difference, but a difference is being made. Will it matter? I haven't a clue. But I can say with conviction that neither party is going to do _shit_ without being forced to, and no doubt the leadership of both parties will be egging them on to load up the rubber bullets and enforce lawnorder, regardless cost. Perhaps a few million votes in the streets in many cities will get noticed: this has a decent level of organization behind it.

Your mileage may vary, but I'm not inclined to stay on the sidewalk for this one. I suspect that massive and continued public protest will be the only thing that can derail the King. He can have his inaugural masturbationfest as he wishes, but there are other things that matter. Critical mass, indeed...

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@skod As someone who's been showing up for the past 30 years, I have to disagree with you: it's not because "very few people have been showing up." Sometimes, as with the NSA surveillance issue, very few show up. Sometimes, as with the Iraq War protests and the BLM protests, and some of the Occupy protests, a hell of a lot of people show up. Just about everyone, including the left, has a tendency to forget those very large protests after they've happened, so that we can say "If only people would get out into the street."

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Point taken- you are absolutely right, of course. Perhaps a better choice of words would have been "not enough", rather than "very few".

I do believe that there is a threshold beyond which protest cannot be ignored, and I believe that we still haven't quite made it there yet. Occupy was a good start, but still never quite achieved critical mass- and when they started busting heads, that was the end of that. So I'm hoping that the level of organization shown by the multiple women's marches nationwide will provide a new substrate for further ongoing organization. Hope has to spring eternal- the alternative is really dark...

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No TV, no radio news, no nuthin'. I've got much better things to do with my time, energy (such as it is), and attention.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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@TheOtherMaven Me too.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Me three. There is a big women's march here in Portland and at first I was going. I don't know but something stinks about it like CStS said it feels prefabricated to me. I've had it with the 'identity' politics of the progressive Democratic ilk. Social liberalism my ass. The last couple of years have been a real eyeopener to me in many ways. The Clintonian definition of feminism wherein you too as a woman can break some corporate glass ceiling or bomb a village full of women and children revolts me. USA!USA!USA!.

I don't like Trump or the horse he rode in with one bit. I refuse to participate in a protest that seems to me to be mourning the fact that The Mad Bomber was cheated out of being crowned. Hard to tell who is more repugnant to me the Demorat's or the Repugs. A lot of women I know are going, they are not all Hillbot's but most are believers in the neoliberal meritocratic version of feminism.

I marched against the Iraq War part 1, OWS and for Wisconsin back in the day. they were not Democratic astroturf, veal pen protest's they were the real deal. I blame the New Democratic, Third Way establishment for this farcical election and it's surreal aftermath. How is this going to show solidarity with women, people of color, or just ordinary people globally who are suffering with no way to address their grievances?

As for The Hair ball being a sexist, racist pig he is. What about Big Dog? hummmm. Madeline Albright no way. Kissinger or DiFi. Take it off the table Nancy? Kate Brown my Democratic governor who is enabling the developer, investor vulture cappies moving in for the kill? She's trying to figure out how to get around a law passed by the people that keeps Nestle's from owning the water here.

So no phony anti-Trump demonstrations for me. The last demonstration I went to was this summer it was with a small local group called "Stop Demolishing Portland'" It did not stop the demolition we were protesting but public support for reining in the mad developers is growing.I would show up for a march in solidarity with the water protectors in a minute.

The inaugural protests seem cooked up.No more divide and conguer, them vs.us, if the them is the meaningless partisan or culture war divisions. Hell I won't even vote for any candidate at this point who has a Dem. after their name. I do not understand why progressive women think that supporting female war criminals and savvy corporate 'bad ass' business women helps make this a better world. Power to the people right now! A pox on both their houses.

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@shaharazade Awesome comment, Shaz. I particularly like this.

I don't know but something stinks about it like CStS said it feels prefabricated to me. I've had it with the 'identity' politics of the progressive Democratic ilk. Social liberalism my ass. The last couple of years have been a real eyeopener to me in many ways. The Clintonian definition of feminism wherein you too as a woman can break some corporate glass ceiling or bomb a village full of women and children revolts me.

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@shaharazade see? This is what I think. Still, if I am in Santa Fe on Saturday and Raggedy ann will be at the protest, I may also go too. Agree 100% about the weird vision of feminism spouted by Hillary, Steinem, Albright et al: hate it!

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@TheOtherMaven Just as The Other Maven and Shaz also said so succinctly, I have no interest in this manufactured circus whatsoever. And I say this as someone who considers himself to be somewhat of an activist and had been at Occupy Wall St every chance I had and participated in #BlackLivesMatter actions. My girlfriend, who is one of the most fair-minded and astute observers, also said she strangely had no interest in the big woman's march either.

All of what you said, that this is a co-optation of the Left to (again) prop up the terrible Hillary corporate archetype, I smell to be true. Any sign of resistance will be completely misunderstood or purposely misinterpreted (or otherwise ignored) by the complicit lapdog media. I don't trust at all the reasoning intellect of the MSM (who in my book have been severely discredited this political season) that they won't begin to misguide their viewers into making a case for the other lesser of two evils, having competed for the least liked and trusted candidates of all time. Left in the venal hands of the MSM for explanation is a conflagration waiting to happen. Fact is, everybody is pissed off, aside for a small minority of Drumpf Dupes, who are in for a serious wakeup call once they begin to see their dilemmas get worse, that is, if they're not frogs boiling in water (again, it comes to down the media diet people are on). I won't be tuning in. (As a digression, the revolution will only come when we can get people to completely abandon mainstream news from corporate tv, newspapers and radio as their way of being "informed." Twain said, "If you don't read the newspaper you're uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you're misinformed.")

Yet, I see big Bernie supporters/activists participating in all sorts of activities relating to protesting at the inauguration. More power to them, I guess. And one part of me thinks that it'll be good that other protesters will see Bernie folks out in numbers who do not support HRC, and will thus understand there is something bigger than just the appearance of a bunch of sore losers shepherded in under the false auspices of feminism, racism, etc.

My concern overall with it is that what will be legitimate concerns and grounds for protest in the very near future will be neutered by a big mixed bag of amorphous grievances now.

I still believe very strongly in Howard Zinn's basic tenets, that throughout history, everyday people, in solidarity with righteous convictions, can defeat the powers that be and create a better world. It's the only way anything has ever happened. Not by the magnanimity of our betters, but by remembering that power concedes nothing without a demand. Agitate, agitate, agitate. But purposefully.

This is not that.

There are lots of desperate folks who voted for the option of an ignoramus selling them snake oil rather than the slick, arrogant, entitled Neoliberal insider, who are potential comrades of the 99%. It's convincing them that we're being divided and conquered by the financial elites, which includes Drumpf and Clinton, and that we have no gripe with one another. Convincing them it's not the Mexicans, or Blacks, or Gays, or Muslims, or ISIS whom they should fear. It's the CEO's in their 3-piece suits who are literally killing us with a thousand and one paper cuts every day by their reckless greed and monopoly control over every aspect of our live. It's their control over the government by writing laws that allow them to continue their pillage, all with the protection of a two-tiered justice system that immunizes them for the rule of law.

As for us? We continue to get churned up in the relentless, merciless grinder of unbridled capitalism and its prisons for the poor and middle class debt slaves, blissfully unaware of any of this because the media is too cowardly to tell the story, as we gorge on more consumerism, gadgets, food porn and celebrity gossip.

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@Mark from Queens Another outstanding comment! This is a big part of my concern too.

My concern overall with it is that what will be legitimate concerns and grounds for protest in the very near future will be neutered by a big mixed bag of amorphous grievances now.

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@gulfgal98 Oh, you *saw* that!
Yes, another part of what the Clinton political behemoth did last year is nearly destroy feminism and deal the fight against racism a poisoned wound. The fight against racism is still on its feet, unlike feminism, but it remains to be seen what the poison will do.

I can't help thinking of the time that BLM supporters started interrupting a Hillary speech by singing, and John Lewis rushed around shushing them all.

The good news is, it takes a hell of a lot to take down the movement against racism.
The bad news is, a lot of people in leadership and in the black upper middle class appear to be helping with the co-optation process.

In either case, that's not for me to solve, but merely for me to send prayers and well-wishes to the Black people trying to solve it.

In both the cases of feminism and anti-racism, a great deal of damage has been done by redefining what those movements are and what they stand for--as if the dictionary definitions of the words "feminism" and "anti-racism" have been changed.

Personally, I'm about ready to ditch the term "feminism"--with apologies to my mother's and grandmother's and great-grandmother's and great-great-grandmother's generations (that should cover all the way back to Seneca Falls, right?). At this point, "feminism" is basically a jobs and training program for upper-middle-class and upper-class women. Develop your full potential. Rise to the top. You can do whatever the men (in your class) can do.

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Thank you.

I agree with the analysis that it's almost impossible to critique Trump without it being interpreted as support for Clinton. In a recent convo with a Trump voter, I also found it's impossible to do the reverse -- the Trump voter smirked every time I criticized Clinton, despite my repeated statements that I wasn't supporting Trump either.

The only benefits I see to the protests on the 20th and 21st are (1) they will piss off Trump, who has a pathological need to believe he is well liked and (2) they will show the people marching and those not marching that they are not alone.

One of the advantages I see of a Trump presidency over a Clinton presidency is that the population was going to roll over and swallow whatever Clinton did, while many people are at least contemplating resistance to Trump. That can only be a good thing, imo

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@blazinAZ Unfortunately, it's also rehabilitating Clinton's image, and the Democratic party's image, because people are stuck in binary thinking. Unfortunately, that won't get us anywhere.

As for showing people they're not alone, that is a good thing. But it'll either be temporary and then poof! it's gone--or there will have to be a persistent structure people can be part of, whether it's a group that meets like gulfgal's did, for a protest and coffee weekly, or whether it's the Democratic party.

Protests for the purpose of making people feel less alone are like meeting someone. If you want to maintain the connection, you have to plan to see them again, and it helps to have a place you can invite them back to. In the case of political protests, what you would "invite them back to" is a movement or organization, either an existing one or a new one you invent on the spot. One of my problems with all this is I see no persistent organization or movement to take up this energy other than the Democratic party.

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Many women will be wearing pink 'pussy' hats. Part of this is a protest against having a Groper in Chief. I do not know any women my age who have not experienced this. I was 10 the first time I was groped. I was with my nine-year-old friend who was also groped by the same middle-aged man. It was broad daylight and we were within sight of our parents. If we had 'told' nothing would have happened to him and our freedom would have been further restricted.

Occupy created a change in cultural awareness about who was really destroying the economy. The civil rights movement got rid of Jim Crow. I know someone who worked at the EEOC who told me that women do not have civil rights; only African Americans have civil rights. Women want civil rights, too.

The women's movement got derailed by soccer moms who felt under-appreciated. Some of us want to start a meaningful women's movement. The 1% will not care about this because they can control any females they bring in from outside their group with their lawyers.

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@asterisk Agree with you about the women's movement having been derailed.

Because the mainstream press will pick this up and broadcast it all over the country, it may indeed create a new feminist movement, but it may not be the one you want, because it will be presented by the press as part of an anti-Trump movement (that's the only part of it they'll be interested in emphasizing), and, more broadly, an anti-Republican movement. We on the left have been defining our movements by their opposition to extremist Republicans for 15 years or more; I don't think that's working out for us so well.

I know about the pussy hats; my partner, Kate, made one for our hairdresser (who unfortunately bought the yarn at Hobby Lobby, but that's another story.)

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Just so it's clear: I don't mean I've abandoned my opposition to Republicans; I just mean that making that the defining mark of a social justice movement has not worked out well for us. Mainly because it funnels us and our movements into the Democratic party, which takes the energy and the money and then screws us over, because they're no better than the people we're protesting.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Another excellent point. Perhaps by getting involved with the Women's March effort, some of us superannuated berner "basement-dwellers" might provide some counterbalance to any dem efforts to co-opt and/or snuff out any momentum there. Suffice it to say that it appears to *have* momentum. Worth a try, anyway.

To see my wife (who hates politics in all its forms) be motivated to march gives me some hope that there are others who are finally reaching the threshold of pain. Perhaps that newly-acknowledged pain might motivate them to collectively hop out of the pot of rapidly-heating water, and therefore inch closer to that hypothetical critical mass. It is enough to get me moving again, anyway- and I didn't expect that to happen after the dem county convention that ended my involvement with the dem party...

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There currently is no political context, no neurolinguistic context, no cultural context, which makes criticism of Donald Trump separable from support for Hillary Clinton. It doesn't matter whether you intend your criticism of Trump to be independent of support for Clinton--it won't be heard that way by the vast majority of people.

I dunno, I am not physically present in DC and I think I wouldn't participate in the women's march against Trump one day AFTER the inauguration, but not for the same reasons you mention. Really, I don't think that many women outside the US see that a criticism of Donald Trump is inseparable from support for Hillary Clinton.

I think that H. Clinton is disliked by a signigicant number of women, because she has based a lot of her campaign rhetoric on the fact that she is a woman and will be supportive of women's issues and is attacked unjustly for it, which is seen as belittling women's capabilities to see more or other important issues than their own gender inequities. Many people dislike Clinton's and Obama's activities, because they don't reflect their rhetoric and demagoguery. They don't feel betrayed because they betrayed us "as a woman" or "as a black man", they betrayed us because they engaged in pretty bad policies and activities on issues that concerns the world-wide population, war, social inequities, loss of privacy and civil rights, social injustice etc ... independent of our gender or ethnicity.

If I were at the inauguration on the Mall, at least I would turn my back towards the tribune as a visible sign that I think Trump is unacceptable as a President. I would say so far he has shown a great deal of psychological and emotional instability. As Michael Moore said:

I wish he had to go through a psychological evaluation, because I’m pretty sure that it would come out that he is a malignant narcissist. Any criticism is met with the scream of the banshees. What time was he up tweeting about Meryl Streep? It was before the sun came up. With all that’s going on the world — the shooting in Fort Lauderdale, the shooting of police in Orlando, North Korea saying they have an ICBM that can hit us and he woke up being consumed with Meryl Streep.

What has that to do with H. Clinton? imo, nothing.

If the march would be done at Inauguration Day and would be headed to the Mall, hopefully not a women's march, but a people's march, turning their back towards the tribune and wearing a gas mask and signs that something "great" stinks to heaven in the Congress and the White House and "Houston, we have a problem with the electoral system"..."with the oligarchs banksters and gangsters", it would be a good enough (non-violent) spectacle.

It may not change anything, but I don't see why one would not show their disapproval of Trump's role as a President, even if we know it won't change anything. How often are people forced to do something of which they know it wouldn't change the situation. And they do it anyway, just because you don't want to give up without a fight.

I feel a bit discouraged and disappointed by your advice. May be I didn't understand it properly. Let me know, if that is the case.

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The Clinton political machine has created a situation in which you cannot criticize Donald without benefiting Hillary.

Hence, why I got bojo'd from TOP, for saying everyone is acting like peasants.
You have to reject that mindset.

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@gjohnsit I don't mean that I'm going to stop criticizing either one. I'm saying that speech, meaningful communication, has two ends: the end where I intend to say something, and the end where somebody else hears and understands it.

The media has a profound effect on the interpretation end of communication. I would love to see hard data on how many people looking at an anti-Trump protest--say it was my protest, for argument's sake, and therefore had absolutely no intention of bolstering Hillary--would come away from it with a higher opinion of Hillary Clinton, or even with a conscious belief that the protest WAS in support of Hillary. I wish I were a social scientist so I could design and measure such a study.

In any case, I don't think I'm subscribing to "peasant" thinking, though I'm not sure I know what you mean by that. I don't believe that every criticism of Donald = support of Hillary; I believe that most people in this country will, and do, take it that way. Certainly around my hometown, being anti-Trump and being pro-Clinton are seen as practically synonymous.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Trump is liable to claim any inauguration crowd as support. I think the Women’s March on Washington is smart, they won't be there on January 20. They are coming the next day, Saturday.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

And I actually agree with everything you say. However I will be joining a local "women's march." I will not be sporting a very unflattering pink hat, and I will be carrying a sign that says "Medicaid 4 All".I had a much more clever and artistic sign planned, but my friend, the former merchandiser, convinced me that no one ever reads more than 3 words on any sign.I know people seeing the march may very well label it anti-Trump, pro What's her name, whatever. And for me its neither.I think its an opportunity for me to find out who the other possible progressives are in this very rural area, and to advocate for something I strongly believe in. Since nothing ever happens here other than HS sports, pictures are bound to hit the local media and Im hoping my sign is in one if them. I also think its very good for the establishment, and that includes the Cory Bookers,to see boots on the ground.

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one of the 'bestus' ever essays that you've written!

Many of your concerns, would be mine.

Also, I totally agree with your sentiment that,

I don't mean I've abandoned my opposition to Republicans; I just mean that making that the defining mark of a social justice movement has not worked out well for us.

(My boldface.)

I think that we've seen that many activities, such as petitions, are often wasted motion. (Except, perhaps, for lawmakers, who collect the email addresses for fund raising purposes.)

IMO, we need to take lessons from so-called movement conservatives--maintain an enthusiastic and focused concentration on 'issues;' and, beef up the reach of progressive media.

That, and a willingness to walk away from the Party--when it does not met up with expectations.

This is exactly what the so-called Religious Right did when McCain and Romney--one secular, the other, a Morman (Yikes! according to some evangelicals)--were the Presidential candidates.

Compare the turnout of that cohort during the 2008 and 2012 election cycles, with the 2016 turnout--night and day. Of course, that means 'there has to be a willingness to lose.'

Mollie


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@Unabashed Liberal Well, thanks, Mollie!

As far as "willingness to lose," I've reached the point where last November did not feel like a loss to me. We'd already lost, in June. The only reason it mattered to me who won in November is that one of Hillary's speeches had terrified me with her willingness to embrace hot wars with other superpowers, including, apparently, nuclear exchanges. So I was relieved when Trump won, because, despite the years and all I've seen, I still can't think of anything worse than nuclear war.

IMO, we need to take lessons from so-called movement conservatives--maintain an enthusiastic and focused concentration on 'issues;' and, beef up the reach of progressive media.

I agree, but I think that's only the beginning of what we need to do. I think our crying need is community-building, but that's another essay. Smile

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that we have ahead of us. Look forward to your future essays on this topic.

Pleasantry

Mollie


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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

....like sore loser syndrome but maybe people feel they need to make a point about something. a female family member is going to women's march but, in my mind, i want to tell her that if she wasn't equally angry and protesting in the last eight years then protesting Trump seems pointless.

i'm not so worked up about Trump. i'm not going to spend any more mental energy on the 2016 election. Trump won. the Democrats should have run a better candidate. it annoys me all the more that now, NOW the Democratic party wants to stand on principles and be an opposition party when they couldn't be bothered for the last several presidencies. f that, hypocrites.

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