"White House hints at crackdown on recreational marijuana"
Jobs? What jobs? Infrastructure? What infrastructure? Economy? What economy?
This might be a little rough because this perturbs me pisses me off.
What the hell do Trump and his team "think" they're doing?
"White House press secretary Sean Spicer on Thursday suggested the Trump administration will step up enforcement of federal laws against recreational marijuana.
"I do believe that you'll see greater enforcement," Spicer said, while adding the exact policy is "a question for the Department of Justice."
It's the latest sign President Trump is poised to take a tougher approach than the Obama Justice Department did in states that have legalized the use of recreational marijuana."
Oh ya, you're such a tough son of a bitch Trump, you and your little lemmings Spicer and Sessions. A trio of simple minded misfits who are making Jed and Granny look aristocratic. Spicer must have been one of those backstabbing assholes in high school who stood off in the corner at the keggers taking notes so he could squeal like a pig on those who were smoking the ganja. He'd go in the next day and tattle on everybody to the principal and come out with his nose looking browner than a Kardashian in Bermuda. Or maybe he was never invited, maybe that's his fucking problem.
I went to a pot shop last night, a LEGAL pot shop here in Vancouver, Washington. It still sounds strange to me but it's been legal here for a couple years. After over 40 years of illegally partaking in the pleasures of the cannibas plant, i.e., breaking the law for over 40 years, I can now go down to my neighborhood (literally) pot shop and get whatever I want, legally.
Why was it illegal for all that time but now it isn't? Why was I a de facto criminal for 40 years and now I'm not? Why can I go buy some weed and tell everyone on this blog that I'm smoking some RIGHT NOW, and someone in another state can get arrested for a single joint?
Why do people still want it to be illegal? Don't they know it's already legal? Why are these little white men in Washington, D.C. saying it should be illegal and that they want to "increase enforcement" when WE THE SERFS VOTED TO LEGALIZE IT!?!? Who the fuck are they?
We still have neanderthals in D.C. and at every state capitol, ranting and raving about the evil weed. They still don't think it should be legal. What went wrong in the seventies, man? I was there and saw it, it seemed like we'd grow out of this back then. I remember getting stopped by cops in the early seventies and when they found the weed, they'd just give us a little lecture and let us go. Some let us keep the weed. I certainly didn't envision such vitriol after 40 more years. WTF is wrong with people?
That's why we have wars, man. It's the same thing.
Now, depending on where you live, you can get tased and die if you have a joint while your neighbors in the next state can visit the Pot Shop. It's a symbol for the country, how fucked up everything is now. FUBAR, fucked up beyond all recognition.
Two primary excuses have built this police state we live in now, the war on drugs and the war OF terror. Both need to be ended but Trump wants to expand them, both of them. What are there, more than 500K arrests for marijuana "offenses" every year? (2012 - 749,000). While it's legal for recreational use in eight states and for medical purposes in twenty states? What kind of deal is that?
Now little hands Trump wants to get tough, tougher than Obama, on those that use the evil weed recreationally. Oh, medical weed is OK, he thinks it's beneficial. Check out this rationale:
"Spicer telegraphed the administration won't take a get-tough approach against medical marijuana, saying Trump believes in its ability to "comfort" people suffering from debilitating diseases.
But he said he takes a different view of recreational marijuana, linking it to the abuse of opioid drugs in states across the U.S."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-hints-at-crackdown-on-recre...
What bullshit. There is zero evidence that using the weed leads to opioid abuse, that's the old "gateway" drug BS we've been hearing for decades. This is what, 2017? The fact of the matter is the weed reduces the abuse of opioids because it's a much better and safer alternative to treat pain and other health issues. That rationale is asinine and based on lies.
These flakes are flying by the seat of their pants and have no fucking idea what they're doing. They're just going with the flow. "Ya, weed illegal, we must sound tough". Imagine applying this type of thinking to managing the largest military ever assembled for a murderous Empire. Trump wants to be tougher than Obama, how's that going to work out with the Empire's military might in his tiny hands? How's that going to work with all those nuclear weapons he wants to build. Imagine this type of thinking relative to creating and administering the health care system for 330 million citizens.
Those that thought things would change with Trump should have their heads examined were wrong.
This is why we need direct democracy nationally.
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Hey, it keeps the private prisons packed. And once those
potheads are in there the prison officials can figure out really nifty ways of getting their sentences extended in order to keep the gravy train a chugging.
Trump’s Department of Justice just reopened business for private prisons
A new memo rescinds a policy enacted by the Obama administration.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/23/14718580/trump-justice-...
EDIT: cam/can
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
And now that so many Vets use it for PTSD...
Can you think of a faster way to conveniently cut off benefits than by making anybody who is convicted of a Federal drug offense ineligible?
I see the bean counters looking at those nice VA disability payments that barely pay rent... and licking their chops.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Time for Congress to snap the purse shut n/t
Fighting for democratic principles,... well, since forever
There's only one reason it's legal in some states,
That is what I thought too when I read that they wanted to
Think of how much money that's going to cost. And I thought that the republicans would have a problem with the cost but remembered that they are in the pockets of their donors and won't do anything about it.
Keeping people in prison because of MJ is asinine when it's legal in other states but not in the one that they live in.
Plus the amount of money spent on the DEA and other agencies who are involved in catching MJ users could be spent on other things like funding social programs for the poor.
And the death toll from SWAT teams is another waste of money, but those guys need to keep practicing their actions for when they use it for other reasons.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
@snoopydawg That's not what he's
Laws? We don't have to care about your stinkin' laws.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Similar to what Obama
Of course, I neither believe them, nor do I believe in their ability or inclination to restrain their bastard operatives once in the field.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Not to mention the deaths from opioid
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
How Exactly?
There is no major opposition party as the Party of Appeasement is floundering around with the failed Turd Way NeoLiberal Wing trying to maintain control, while the Liberal/Progressive Wing is blocked from power in the party as 14 million have left the party and the hemorrhage continues unabated...
Meanwhile the largest power bloc, the Independents remain headless and unfocused after a brief Sanders Love Event, that ended with him caving in to the party establishment after a Rigged Primary and becoming a Cuck for Medusa...
We need to stop floundering and find a way to steamroll these clowns...
I don't believe that 60's and 70's style activism will work against the police state...
Even China has more conscience than these paramilitary clowns we have today...
Our tanks wouldn't stop...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Congress doesn't have the balls to do jack about dick.
@fight2bfree Because if they did we would have been well on our way to single payer in 2008, among many other things.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
It's too late to stop it.
But putting all legalization under federal control let's the big boys soak up the profits.
When medical became legal in Michigan (2008), I came in from the world of gorilla growing. I didn't do it for money, but for the health benefits of myself and others.
I'll gladly go back to being an outlaw before they make me stop.
Call me Pandora's box.
"a process that generates many complicated problems as the result of unwise interference in something."
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
@Pricknick It would be inadvisable
It would make this move make sense. Not much else does. Protecting Big Pharma's profits, sure--but isn't Big Pharma licking its lips, ready to take over from marijuana entrepreneurs, and make weed corporate?
No, there's only two reasons I can think of to do this: one, to keep the prison population up, and provide cheap labor (perhaps in replacement for all those frightened immigrants); two, because they actually want widespread violence in the streets.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The fantastic economics of marijuana could
…have something to do with curbing the People's access. But something tells me it's about the need for authoritarian punishment, in large part.
The marijuana sector is literally on fire, but the bet is on the restricted pharmaceutical value. Cannabis-related stocks really performed in 2016, gaining a whopping 236 percent. By way of comparison, the S&P 500 gained just under 10 percent in 2016.
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Israel is probably the leading developer in that sector, and there are now Marijuana ETFs and Hedge funds.
Key is the fact that research scientists around the world are finding cures for almost everything in cannabis compounds — all begging to be monetized. For example:
Meanwhile, this article in the Cannabist is very informative re Sessions. Personally, I believe Trump will be removed from office, but the beatings will continue under Pence. And that's not such a bad thing. It may wake the Americans People to the reality of the degrading abuse they suffer (by developed nation standards in the 21st century) and their near-total lack of representation in government.
Or, not.
Interesting article, thanks for the link to to it
As the author stated, it's in a legal-illegal and has been publicly chastised by Sessions.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Or not...
That's what I thought about beating Hillary. Appears there's no end to greed and stupid in the human race.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
@Pluto's Republic Not as long as people are
Isn't the Deep State cute, with its little periscope eye.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Thanks Al,
And, it seems to me that state legislatures, especially in those states where mj use is currently completely legal, should just hand out medical marijuana cards to all voting age citizens. It could save states some serious $$, e.g. fewer alcohol and opioid related injuries and deaths, mental health costs, etc.
And, it's just the right thing to do. Incarceration might bring some wealth to DT's friends in the Private Prison industry, but it has serious costs for states and communities that lose a family's breadwinner or caregiver to prison for such petty crimes. The consequence is even more stress on the local, already fragile, state support systems. So what's it going to be?
"it's the right thing to do."
Not a factor in the decision- making process.
They don't use any logic or reason
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
A million guns sold last year in California
Gee I wonder why? California gun sales surge to beat new gun control limits. Oh yeah that's why.
Booya! Good job Ds. It is already an active war around here, between LEOs, outlaws, criminal gangs, crazy-ass greed growers. Now we have millionaire speculator shell companies jacking up real estate yet again, and the cost of everything else goes up. It never ends.
Blah blah blah, the point is, with Immigration and Cannabis policy Trump can really put the hurt on California. Anyone else feel the recession coming? There are more and more hints. I wouldn't be surprised if politically the state flips again, back to red and not the Panama kind. It is already bloody ugly.
Lights out
Guerrilla Radio
Turn that shit up
http://www.guerrillagardening.org/ggseedbombs.html
peace
@eyo
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
"This video may be inappropriate for some users."
is why I still keep around a GOOG account I guess, to view censored material, for the memories. Login required because "community guidelines" all your base. hmph.
Not meant to offend, it is for Darth Pence. David Peel hung out with John Lennon a lot. Peace bards. I had this album, it was good and funny.
THE POPE SMOKES DOPE -- David Peel & The Lower East Side
peace
It's also bad for any business friends
in pharma, alcohol and probably a variety of other fields given the many uses of hemp.
@Dhyerwolf Don't they just want to
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Thanks for the link to the Sessions' article.
It would really be sadly funny to watch these FRightwingnuts fight over the right of the states to set pot law. These yahoos are always screaming STATES' RIGHTS, STATES' RIGHTS. I hope they eat each other alive. Alas, it's not a perfect world!! Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Cause fuck state rights....
They only matter when these anal retentive jesus freaks are restricting abortion and gay rights. If Obama hadn't of been such a liar and traitor, the GOP would be dead.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
@dkmich Don't forget your
Fuck this shit.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
In states which have legalized?
They mean they're going to run around Colorado, Oregon, Maine, Massachusetts and Washington State, and have the feds throw their weight around in defiance of the will of the people and state laws?
This pretty much feeds my tinfoil hat brain, because there's no self-interested reason why Trump would do this. He's not Mr. Morality, on the social front, and I can't believe he really gives a shit what people smoke; and this is going to massively piss off not only his opponents, but his supporters. Non-corporatist Republicans don't like a strong federal government forcing state governments to do its will, for multiple reasons. This is a lot more what I would expect from Pence. Makes me wonder if Trump himself wants out; stuff like this will make it easier to impeach him, because it will significantly decrease the blowback, because a lot fewer people will be upset that he's gone.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Maybe just his backyard
So in the meantime people have come up with different ways to skirt the law, selling t-shirts, posters, hats, tea, etc., with a "free" gift of MJ. And that kind of sucks. But lately there have been "events" where several growers and concentrate producers rent a space and charge $5-$15 admission and now it's a private, invitation only event where you can show your support for your favorite table display with a donation to keep them growing and maybe they'll return the favor in kind.
I have to say the whole scene is a little off the hook. They've got rigs all fired up for you to sample the shatter. The lack of regulation is what makes it a total free-for-all.
This is what I think he's talking about when he wants to crackdown on rec mj. It's so in his face it's hard to ignore it. I mean, the likelihood that some intern will show up with a H-enail in his backpack just increases daily, and considering the competence of his administration to date, might have already happened.
BUT Trump also named Boulder D.A. Stan Garnett to his pot advisory group.
http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-county-news/ci_30760353/boulder-da-st...
That's an odd juxtaposition, seeing how Garnett is probably the best D.A. in the country to lead the process of legalization. So I think Trump is trying to have it both ways. He's hiring progressive pot prosecutors, and then telling the conservative base that there will be a renewed crackdown. I predict some widely publicized crackdowns with few arrests and prosecutions, and then a year or two later they'll do a national legalization.
Anyone who is not familiar with Dr. Bob Melamede's theory of BLP and FLP needs to go review that stuff right now, as it is essential in understanding the politics behind marijuana legalization. Most BLP - backwards looking people - are conservatives who don't smoke pot. Most FLPs - forward looking people - are progressive (by definition) and are more favorable to legalization. But there are a surprising number of conservative pot smokers. I have a strong suspicion that you can tell a BLP what he wants to hear and they'll be appeased even in the face of real concessions to a FLP. Seems tailor made for someone who is working both groups.
“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”
@bondibox I hope so. but the
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@bondibox BTW, thanks so much
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Either Trump wants out--
or he has no power to say "no" to somebody else who actually wants this (and we're deeper down the rabbit-hole than I thought), or this is one more attempt to create large-scale violence in the streets.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
That's why I asked wtf they're thinking on this.
I can't see them winning this one, as Pricknik said above, it's too late, the cat is out of the bag, the ball is rolling, they can't stop legalization now.
As for the nuclear weapons--
That's one of the reasons why this is a seriously bad idea. Not just for us, for Trump.
I wouldn't put additional pressure on the rank-and-file just now. Bad choice.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
What people thought would be different under Trump:
(at least, left-wing people)
1)A more protectionist and less globalist attitude toward trade
2)No WWIII, at least not with Russia; scaling back on the dangerous bellicose Russophobia Clinton represents and the CIA wants.
That's about it. Though I admit I didn't see a marijuana crackdown coming; hard to understand why the fuck Trump gives a shit about that.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
It's more likely to be Jeff Sessions' pet project.
Hard to know how much support he'll get from Trump.
native
I'm not particularly into the current trend of
shaming people for not hating Trump sufficiently, or early enough. Falls more or less under the category of using the establishment's talking points. The master's tools, etc.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
This is why they still want it to be illegal
Burlington cop lied about stop
There but for the grace of a failed attempt to disable a body cam ...
A giant leap backwards
Trump is taking us back to the 50s minus the New Deal.
The political revolution continues
That's basically what got him elected
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Go ahead, Trump! I dare you
The genie is already out of the bottle. You aren't going to put it back. You don't have the manpower.
It's the system, it's the system all for USA USA
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBKiqhJpDQk]
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
(No subject)
This is promising news for the Mexican cartels.
Just when their business was drying up, along comes Trump to give them fresh hope. Wasn't he supposed to be keeping business in America? Maybe he's figured out some way to take a cut for himself.
native
Feds will have an instant arrest list
In Oregon many retail shops keep information about customers not to run afoul of regulations. It seemed regulations put retailers into a Catch-22 where they have to ensure customers cannot buy more than a certain limit. I am not sure if this rule was temporary or not.
Also, saw article about reaction in Oregon to the threat.
http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2017/02/trump_administrati...
Maybe I am too cynical. But both Oregon dems and gopers react immediately and negatively. And Kate Brown, Hillary supporter and superdelegate who declared for Hillary right before the Oregon primary, which Bernie won easily?
I remember a NYTimes article about how Brown has been a major voice in the resistance movement to Trump. Coming out against the attack on pot is an easy, no brainer. The people of Oregon voted for the measure to legalize it. Even a fcking republican knows better. Okay, more cynicism. From what I have read, the beer, wine, and spirits industry has actively opposed measures to legalize pot in states attempting to legalize pot. In all states a very money'ed lobby.
Brown may eventually say something, but as of yet, nada. I hope she remained silent because she was working state officials on legal counter-attacks.
death by alcohol
I just read about the death of a young sexy internet star. She trashed her liver with booze. Why is alcohol legal and a joint gets a visit from a SWAT team? They banned alcohol, but learned that it did not work. It is too bad they do not apply this lesson to pot. Just as Prohibition led to the rise of charmers like Capone, the war on drugs fuels the cartels.
I doubt that Trump gives a
I doubt that Trump gives a damn about MJ, however he must keep his rabid right-wing "christian" base happy.
It is Money talks and BS walks - that's how Capitalism works!
But when it comes to MJ, it is the more BS, the more MONEY!
Could Fascist Capitalism be behind the change.........I wonder?