We must bomb Syria!

Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 11:02am

I'm not sure this is 100% true, but it sounds believable.

The United States has determined 22 critical points across Syria to strike in response to the Assad regime’s latest use of chemical weapons on Syrian civilians. Among those points are strategic areas densely populated by Shiite militias. Russian soldiers are deployed at two military bases in the Homs and Tartus regions which are also among the targets.
The U.S. has “reached the moment when the world must see justice done,” U.S. ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley said Monday. She added: "We must not overlook Russia and Iran’s roles in enabling the Assad regime’s murderous destruction.”

Russia has called for a U.N. investigation to discover the facts, but I think we are beyond facts.

France wants to get in on the bombing too.

Almost forgotten in all this, Israel is bombing and killing Iranians.

It followed a vow by President Trump to respond to an apparent chemical weapons attack by the Syrian government near Damascus on Saturday. It did not appear to have been in response to that event, raising the possibility that Israel had merely seized the opportunity to take out what it saw as a threat to its own security.

Meanwhile, Russia is warning us not to do this. Amazingly, liberals don't seem to care.
Personally, I'm hoping the U.N. does something. Anything.

“Recent developments carry more than ever before the dangers that the Secretary-General has warned about,” Staffan de Mistura, the UN Special Envoy for Syria, told an emergency meeting of the Security Council.
“[Dangers] of different Middle East fault lines completely crossing each other and interconnected, of conflicting interests – of both global and regional powers, and forms of escalation that can have absolutely devastating consequences that is difficult for us to even imagine.”

Why the sudden rush, both with the bombing and with Russian sanctions?
It makes me think that something important is happening elsewhere.

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 11:10am

this changes things

The Russian military has been jamming some U.S. military drones operating in the skies over Syria, seriously affecting American military operations, according to four U.S. officials.

The Russians began jamming some smaller U.S. drones several weeks ago, the officials said, after a series of suspected chemical weapons attacks on civilians in rebel-held eastern Ghouta. The Russian military was concerned the U.S. military would retaliate for the attacks and began jamming the GPS systems of drones operating in the area, the officials explained.

Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., reacted to the news of Russian scrambling Tuesday by saying "Russia wants to undermine our interests at every turn."

"It is insane to think that Russia is anything but an adversary," said Sasse.

They're an adversary because we left them no other options.

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Submitted by eyo on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 11:34am

@gjohnsit thanks, I see Ron Paul made front page over on PressTV/US, Iran.
Neocons, not Assad, behind suspected chemical attack: Ron Paul

Asked why they are vilifying Syria and Russia, Dr. Paul said, “Well, I think they have an ulterior goal. It has been there for a long time, and it has a lot to with Saudi Arabia and Iran. I think that’s number one. I think works into that are the Shias against Sunnis, and that works into it. And then there are neocons in this country who have their agenda, and that’s perpetual war for perpetual profit, the military-industrial complex, then you throw in oil and they all come together.”

“And guess what, this is bipartisan. Everyone complains there is not enough bipartisanship in Washington. You know it we have too much of it, because they all support this foreign policy. I think it’s a disaster,” he stated.

I sound like FoxNews and Ron Paul now? Feh. Stop telling me what to think! lol

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Submitted by The Aspie Corner on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 11:56am
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@eyo Ron Paul gets things right sometimes, but other than that, he's in lock-step with the capitalist class. Especially on domestic issues.

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Submitted by MrWebster on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 12:32pm

@eyo Totally insane. In the major mass media, Tucker Carlson is the only anti-war with Syria voice I have heard. He is the Phil Donahue of this decade.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5767243543001/?#sp=show-clips

Can't find it now, but Tucker interview a Southern senator over bombing Syria and the senator tried the Russiagate smear on him.

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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 1:42pm
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@MrWebster @MrWebster Our world has been turned upside down when the only sane voice on the television comes from FOX News via Tucker Carlson. I just became a Tucker Carlson fan.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=448&v=xsTyCf7Pe84]

I am absolutely appalled at what a dangerous game our members of Congress and the media are playing here, led by the Democrats. Make no mistake, they WANT WWIII! It will not end well, no matter who wins. Meanwhile the banksters will be in their bunkers counting their blood soaked cash. I am just sick.

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Submitted by fakenews on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 1:54pm
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@gulfgal98 Tucker referred to the military actions in Syria as a "civil war" multiple times - it's not a civil war, it's an attempt to destabilize a region that the U.S. has a strategic interest. Regime change by a foreign power is not a "civil war"...

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Submitted by Pricknick on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 1:55pm
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@gulfgal98

Meanwhile the banksters will be in their bunkers counting their blood soaked cash.

They will be hunted.

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Submitted by MrWebster on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 2:49pm

@gulfgal98 Bad enough already. The consequences will be even more murderous, if they aren't murderous enough. Add to the suffering of the Syrian people a good chance of escalation through out the entire region.

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 11:48am

Hmmmm

A 45-year-old Russian accountant and relative of the two Russians poisoned in a nerve agent attack in Britain last month said in an interview late Thursday that she was “scared” for them, calling the British authorities untrustworthy and casting doubt on their version of events.

no proof

The head of Britain’s military research center said on Tuesday it was unable yet to say whether the military-grade nerve agent that poisoned a Russian double-agent last month had been produced in Russia.

“We were able to identify it as Novichok, to identify that it was military-grade nerve agent,” Gary Aitkenhead, chief executive of the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory at Porton Down in England, told Sky News.

“We have not identified the precise source, but we have provided the scientific info to government who have then used a number of other sources to piece together the conclusions you have come to.”

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Submitted by MrWebster on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 12:21pm

Russians warning about fake chemical attacks. Chemical attack on Russians in UK. Now these latest chemical attack charges. The pictures of children victims. Victory after victory for the Assad regime on the battle field.. A very concerted and propaganda campaign that exceeds what we saw for Iraq. And I would put the Saudi tyrant doing a charm tour of major influencers in the US.

The end result? Militarily crush the Syrian army and giving the country over to Turkey and the terrorist armies with veto power to the Israelis.

I look for civilian deaths to grow exponentially in the same way Libyan bombing resulted in elimination/ethnic cleansing/genocide of black Africans.

The democrats will say while they supported the bombing of Syrian, they will blame Trump for the resulting killing fields.

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Submitted by dfarrah on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 7:52pm

@MrWebster Anytime Trump mentions doing something other than overthrowing Assad, the attacks happen. This time, the gassing happened immediately after Trump began talking about withdrawing from Iraq.

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Submitted by Nastarana on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 1:19pm

I can't begin to guess at everything involved but a few points are clear:

1. We need not waste time or energy "looking into" the validity of the poisoning so-called incident except to wonder why CIA, Mossad et.al. can't come up with a new script.

2. This follows immediately on the appointment of Mr. Bombs Away Bolton, which is surely NOT a coincidence.

3. In terms of American domestic politics I think it is pretty clear that the above events constitute a preventative strike against the growing anti-war sentiment, if not yet a full fledged movement, among the American public.

4. The oligarchy is evil, not stupid. Of course they know that the public is fed up with overseas military adventures. We failed to get in line after months, years, of paid propaganda from the Lamestream Media, so this is now option 2, start a war whether we like it or not, and probably, I would guess, have the strikes, intervention or whatever, end or appear to end before the Nov. elections. The "humanitarian" excuse is to give the UN cover for voting for intervention. The oligarchs couldn't care less what we mere citizens think.

5. Probably the CIA and other intelligence, you should excuse the expression, agencies need to be able to extract their ISIS agents under cover of a new "refugee crisis".

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Submitted by Linda Wood on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 1:23pm

Veterans Today published a report and photographs about the Syrian discovery of the large chemical weapons cache and factory in East Ghouta. The photographs indicate the rebel factions/Al Qaeda are receiving chemical weapons from western suppliers, i.e. U.S. and NATO backers. Labels on chemical weapons are of German and British sources.

I think this may be one of several devastating realizations that are coming together against the war machine:

They have been supplying Al Qaeda with chemical weapons.

Their rebel forces are surrendering and being evacuated.

The war may be coming to an end, with Syria, Russia, and Iran having made the case that regime change is a failed project.

And incidentally, the lawsuit against the Saudi government in regard to 9/11 has been allowed to go through.

Thus, the hysteria to turn this into a world war and indeed a nuclear war is not only to keep the black hole of funding going to support their lifestyle, but more important, if peace breaks out, if Putin demonstrates that war is insane, a failed policy, more than embarrassment awaits them. The powers that be will be brought to justice. What the world now realizes is that NOT bringing war mongers to justice is how we got to the brink of nuclear war. And this time it will be for real, not truth and reconciliation, but justice.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/08/proof-intel-drop-trump-bolton-b...

Proof: Intel Drop, Trump, Bolton behind Syria chemical attacks, confirmed
Germany, Britain, America, Israel - VT provides proof of chemical warfare and war crimes.

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor - April 8, 2018

… The SAA capturing this chemical weapons facility was a huge turn of events.

… The impending attack on Damascus by the US was partially due to what the SAA might uncover in East Ghouta; and because they were able to move fast, they overran the US Coalition’s chemical weapons operations faster than anyone thought possible.

… The SAA has US Coalition chemical weapons officers in custody; and Russia has told the US, Brits, Israelis, and Saudis that they will have to deal with Damascus.

How long US media and our own Congress can pretend they know nothing about who some of the major terrorist elements are that most are afraid to mention? Their house of cards is crumbling, and “they” will be more dangerous in that situation, as we are talking about some serious crimes here...

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Submitted by Lookout on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 2:03pm
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Vanessa Beeley lays it out clearly...
http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/04/08/syria-the-egregious-western-media-...

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Submitted by CB on Tue, 04/10/2018 - 6:59pm
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presidency. Her manufactured crap about Russia, Russia, Russia is what has got us into this bind. The fucking truth is that she was a shit candidate. As long as the DNC refuses to recognize this fact, the party will continue to decline. Unfortunately, Her Heinous may have started WWIII with her stupidity and ignorance in blaming Russia.

If war does in fact break out, at least we will have the pleasure of knowing this will be the very last war the US will start because China and Russia will put it out of its misery. Even if war does not break out, the US will be de-knackered by 2025. The country has gone berserk. It's run by fuckwits and psychopaths on BOTH sides of the aisle.

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