US Troops killed in Syria; Eric Prince Wants A Piece A That

Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 12:52pm

We should end the illegal US troop presence and bombing of Syria immediately. We need leaders who will make this happen, not mercenaries who will deepen the quagmire.

JUST IN: Four U.S. soldiers killed, three wounded in blast in Syria's Manbij - U.S. official https://t.co/q7aXzeTz5b pic.twitter.com/zMkpN5LmbK

— Reuters World (@ReutersWorld) January 16, 2019

I had missed the announcement related to withdrawal a few days ago:

Plan calls for US troop pullout from Syria to take months, bringing hundreds more troops in to assist
By: Robert Burns, The Associated Press

Interesting timing of Eric Prince interview:

With James Mattis gone, Trump itching for #Syria Withdrawal, look who enters the debate: Erik Prince.

Former Blackwater Exec. makes a pitch for mercenary to replace US troops. @TheNationalUAE https://t.co/xlcoimioSU

— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) January 16, 2019

Canova raises an interesting question:

Perhaps ISIS and their backers (our “allies” in the region) don’t want American ground troops to leave Syria. https://t.co/Oz71v0mXKM

— Tim Canova (@Tim_Canova) January 16, 2019

Saudis, for example?

#Saudi prince slams US withdrawal from #Syria https://t.co/x39Fsa4lHj

— Al-Masdar News (@TheArabSource) January 14, 2019

A while back Warren had called for withdrawal. Wonder how many will make that call now?

Donald Trump and Elizabeth Warren both say it: The US presence in Syria is wrong, and it’s the result of a self-reinforcing policy “establishment.” But it’s not that simple. @csmonitor https://t.co/0YnSYSzdar

— CSMPolitics (@csm_politics) January 16, 2019

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:04pm

Unfortunately,

I believe this was done by our own government in order to keep us in Syria. Cynical? Indeed.

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 3:06pm

My guess is that some who voted for Obama and Trump

@Raggedy Ann want these wars to end. Others have a vested interest to keep those dollars rolling in.

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Submitted by Anja Geitz on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 3:31pm

This, more than anything, is the issue

@divineorder

That I think the 99% on the left and right should work towards, together.

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Submitted by OzoneTom on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 5:22pm

The reason they keep us divided

@Anja Geitz
If we ever recognise our commonalities we will become a serious threat.

Submitted by NYCVG on Thu, 01/17/2019 - 8:16am

@Raggedy Ann Cynical, RA. But

@Raggedy Ann Cynical, RA. But probably accurate.

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:04pm

Eric Prince seeing big money possibilities again!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-us-troop-with...

Blackwater, the company founded by Mr Prince in 1997, received hundreds of millions of dollars in US government contracts during the Iraq and Afghan wars, providing support for US forces and guarding officials and installations.

In 2017, The New York Times reported that Mr Prince had been tasked by then advisor to Mr Trump, Steve Bannon, to come up with an alternative to sending more troops to the country. Mr Prince had donated $250,000 to Mr Trump’s presidential campaign the year before.

His plan involved a force of 6,000 private contractors, made up of former US and European special forces, and training for Afghan troops, running to a cost of around $5bn a year. The plan reportedly found a receptive audience in Mr Trump, who has grown frustrated with the spiralling costs of the 17-year conflict.

And you get a private war! And you get a private war! And you... pic.twitter.com/Z04nOVQDQz

— Alex Finley (@alexzfinley) January 16, 2019

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:09pm

Raggedy Ann understand why you might think that.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:13pm

Who didn't see something like this coming?

I thought we'd get a false flag attack that could be blamed on ISIS which would prove that they are still active and therefore we couldn't possibly leave, but to kill our own troops to make the point never crossed my mind. But then I am not surprised by this. I just wish Americans would see it in this light, not some sacrifice by our brave troops trying to protect our freedoms which they never say how ISIS could take them away from us. Especially since Bush did most of them when he passed the Patriot Act.

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:24pm

Maybe we had our fingers crossed that against all odds there

@snoopydawg would be a miraculous withdrawal?

We are not alone in wanting that, but we are in the minority still.

Can Trump's Syria policy end the 'Forever Wars'?

Jonathan Marcus Diplomatic correspondent @Diplo1

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Submitted by gjohnsit on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:35pm

We can't withdraw now

Americans are getting killed.
It means we must stay.

Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:44pm

Heh. The old previous investment trap.

@gjohnsit Reasons to get out:

Excellent and True by @aarondmiller2
1 Better for US to get out.
2 Not a "gift" to Russia and Iran. Poisoned chalice.
3 Better for Syria too, needs peace.
4 Israel & Kurds will not be destroyed.
5 US could not create or defend independent state for 2 million N. Syrian Kurds. https://t.co/BEiwUJgI8D

— Joshua Landis (@joshua_landis) January 4, 2019

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Submitted by dkmich on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:48pm

Another private company with a vested interest in:

expanding the war; jailing more people; keeping people sick.

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 2:56pm

Another private company, yes, along with their bought

@dkmich duopoly buddies in politics.

The War Party wastes no time using an alleged ISIS attack to undermine a presidential order to withdraw from an illegal, open-ended occupation (which is a blank check for them as war profiteers and part of their broader agenda for the region) https://t.co/C7ovyS9Y0e

— Joanne Leon (@joanneleon) January 16, 2019

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 1:52pm

Yeah, we heard that crap for years

From the elected officials and military brass about Viet Nam. Can't leave -- so many would have died for no purpose -- la di da ad infinitum. Just get the hell out of other countries you greedy bastids.

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 2:53pm

Exactly!

@QMS

Now do Iraq, “aid” to Israel, Yemen, close 90% of the foreign military bases, stop funding terrorists, stop overthrowing democratically elected governments, maybe un-embargo Venezuela, the commie scare tactics are outdated, make Puerto Rico a state and merge the dakotas into one. https://t.co/Ybskjxk9Oe

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 5:36pm

The fly on the wall that we are supposed to believe

is that ISIS is so upset that we are leaving that they decided to pull this bone headed move. This is what we were supposed to believe when Assad 'poisoned his citizens' just as Trump was pulling them out last time.

I can't believe how many people believed that Assad did that, but they did. And they are the same people who used to be against 'stupid wars.' They were also upset that Trump didn't do more damage when he lobbed those 59 bombs at Syria. And why 59? Why not 60 or 55?

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Submitted by divineorder on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 5:58pm

Strange.

@snoopydawg FWIW Pence says still pulling out.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6600081/Terrifying-video-shows-...

Pence first made the claim in a State Department speech and doubled down on it in an afternoon statement invoking President Donald Trump.

'President Trump and I condemn the terrorist attack in Syria that claimed American lives and our hearts are with the loved ones of the fallen,' Pence wrote. 'We honor their memory and we will never forget their service and sacrifice.'

He went on to say: 'We have crushed the ISIS caliphate and devastated its capabilities. As we begin to bring our troops home, the American people can be assured, for the sake of our soldiers, their families, and our nation, we will never allow the remnants of ISIS to reestablish their evil and murderous caliphate – not now, not ever.'

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 6:49pm

Can't begin to imagine what that would have been like

@divineorder

Just walking around your home town and boom. Those people would be alive if ... The biggest if is our country stayed within its borders and played nice with others. Parents, spouses and kids are grieving today because we don't.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 10:39pm

New false flag coming soon in Idlib?

According to this site there is one being planned in the next few days. This is being planned by the offshoot of AQ of course just like the last two times Trump has wanted to withdraw the troops.

It also states that lots of trucks loaded with troops has come into Syria from Iraq. What a cluster f'ck ehh?

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/16/2019 - 11:27pm

If ISIS is the nail, who is the hammer?

With special guest appearance by Hillary! "Sounds like a good idea to arm the Mujahideen and get people from all over the Middle East to join us."

Great plan, Hillary. Who cares if people die because of it right?

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