Some more Establishment Democrat nastiness
That's from an editor at Ms. the feminist magazine.
I guess having the correct genitals makes all the difference.
Also, everyone's favorite person, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, has some advice to give.
Warren, a possible presidential candidate in 2020, said she was "troubled" by Obama's decision, and Sanders, a former Democratic presidential candidate, told CNN it was "not a good idea" and "distasteful."
After being shown both criticisms during an interview on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront," Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz fired back that "it is none of anyone's business what someone who is a member of the private sector decides to accept in terms of compensation."
"With all due respect to anyone who chooses to comment publicly on what Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or anyone earns as a member of the private sector," she said, "it's just, like, MYOB -- it's none of your business."
Wasserman Schultz said that Obama and Clinton, who also faced criticism for paid speeches to Wall Street, both have "pristine" public records. "They both fought back against the big banks, and their practices, and I have every confidence in the service they both provided."
Yes, I have every confidence that they were serviced too.
Meanwhile, left-wing candidates keep doing well in Red States.
Progressive attorney and activist Chokwe Antar Lumumba defeated incumbent Mayor Tony Yarber in the Democratic primary on Tuesday ― virtually assuring his ascent to power in the heavily Democratic city of Jackson, Mississippi.Lumumba secured 55 percent of the vote, avoiding a runoff. The general election is on June 6, when Lumumba is expected to easily defeat Republican, third-party and independent candidates...
Lumumba, 34, ran on a platform of investing more in education, reinstating a 1 percent sales tax to rebuild the city’s aging infrastructure, and reducing crime through community engagement. He is a founder of Cooperation Jackson, an organization that’s trying to create a network of worker-owned cooperatives throughout the city. As mayor, he plans to start an incubator for local businesses that includes such cooperatives.
That wasn't supposed to happen.
Comments
That's interesting
sounds like a big FU to me
gj, I had to stop laughing before posting this comment
Now I am able to continue. Please post the mandatory warning for readers not to be eating or drinking before reading these posts! I have aspirated on a few occasions--but fortunately I have Medicare. What about our comrades who may have non-Medicare health Access (choke--there I go again)!
You Didn't Like the Way Obama Prosecuted Bankers?
A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma
I must have missed something.
Holder got bolder
Gave creditors cold shoulder
Bankers got holiday
With overtime pay
So much worse than that cartoon shows. banksters got
bailed out and immunized, even though (1) they had to have known that crap mortgage derivatives were going to collapse economies around the world, including ours and (2) they conducted illegal foreclosures like thugs.
The cartoon shows only that they got away with it. It doesn't show the piles of money they made from selling crap derivatives and the money they got in the bailout and the money in legal fees and settlements the immunity saved them and--and this may be the biggest number of all-- the fortune they were able to make because the Fed has kept interest rates close to zero for years.
Oh, yeah, I forgot. We made a profit on the bailout.
Oh, establishment dems...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-9stMznR40]
I'm posting this one, specifically because it pissed off establishment dems back in the day. (I haven't forgotten your horseshit, Mr. Gore.)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
I can imagine a West Saxon monarch
wishing the death of a Mercian King in the 8th C.
But pondering the death of politician you don't agree with in the 21st C.?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Lets hope they face some serious backlash
to that ugly little remark but I won't hold my breath. Going to forward this on to my feminist "warriors" today so they can see just what all these great, stellar, intelligent women propose for Americans who don't agree with all their happy horse shit.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
encompassing the death
Plus ça change, plus le même chose. (The more things change, the more they stay the same.)
Whether these boneheaded broads like it or not, Hillary Clinton will never be President. Nor will anyone like her be. If they ever want a woman to occupy the nation's highest office, they'll dump her and her neoliberal conserva "Dem" bullshit like the bullshit that they are. These have been carefully weighed by the American People and found wanting.
The only reason Her Heinous got as many votes as she did was that she had Herr Drumpfenfuhrer as her opponent. In a genuinely honest election with a serious, qualified opponent, she would never have seen the light of day.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@Bollox Ref Well, the truth is I don
Well, the truth is I don't care whether Hillary, for example, lives or dies. I just want her out of my face. If there were a way for her to keep her blood money and live in luxury without being able to buy political influence with it, I'd even be OK with that.
That said, it's pretty easy to hate these people as much as people hated the Mercian king.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
little debbie, otoh, did not fight back against big banksters...
Debbie Wasserman Schultz Shouldn’t Be Welcoming Loan Sharks Into the Democratic Party
Joe, get real! She swims with sharks.
DWS and payday loan sharks
source
I can't think of an epithet vile enough to express my opinion of this.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Clintonesque?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
clintonesque
Rhymes with (and is similar to) grotesque!
I like it!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@thanatokephaloides Well done!
Well done!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Ms. Magazine is supposed to be feminist?
Sure, boardroom or corporate feminist, perhaps, like Christina Hoff Summers or Gloria Steinem. Meanwhile, I doubt Carmen Rios has ever had to spend even a moment in the trenches fighting for things she and so many others take for granted.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
in the trenches
She appears to be too young to have "been there" when the bulk of those wars were fought in the 1960s and 1970s. To have "been there", she would have had to have been old enough to vote for at least some of that time. It's obvious she wasn't even born yet in those days.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@thanatokephaloides I was a little girl.
I was a little girl. However, I protested in the 80s and early 90s. There was still plenty to do. But then, we had an actual movement then, concerned with things other than putting a handful of rich white women, and a couple token rich black women, into positions of power.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
the 80s and 90s
I came of voting age in 1976, and was involved in protest actions from the age of 11 onwards. From the photos I've been able to see, I would be profoundly surprised if Carmen Rios was old enough to read in 1990.
And you're right: we (all progressives) really did "have a real movement then". Folks like me who demonstrated for peace, for a full economic and civil life for everyone, and against unlimited nuclear power and weapons had real solidarity with women who demanded reproductive control over themselves, equal pay for equal work and other such self-determination issues. We marched together, acted together, and actually got some shit changed. (And yes, I definitely count you among that "we", CSTMS!)
I know you share my utter despair and frustration facing the fact that we have to do it all over again -- a situation that a bevy of women, led by Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Hillary Clinton, are working overtime to perpetuate. After all, they've got theirs, amirite?
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@thanatokephaloides It's really
It's really important that we keep the memory alive of what a real movement is, and the fact that we had one. It might not have been the absolute best movement (by the 80s) that it could have been, but it was real, not this stupid puppet shitshow being put on for the sake of Hillary Clinton's ego. There's no way to have solidarity within a "movement" like this.
Well, I guess it *is* a "movement," in the sense my grandmother would have used the word...
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
movement
Ah yes, the "Cayenne Pepper Bowel Movement"!!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@The Aspie Corner Where's your movement to
Where's your movement to repeal the Hyde Amendment, Carmen?
Where's Hillary's movement to repeal the Hyde Amendment?
Until you have one (or she does) you can both shove those pink pussy hats where the sun don't shine. Actually, a fight against the Hyde Amendment wouldn't be enough to make up for all the blood she's shed...but at least she wouldn't be as much of a fucking hypocrite.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
repeal the Hyde Amendment?
In the inimitable prose of the old MIT Dungeon game (the original Zork): "I can't see one here!"
See above.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@thanatokephaloides LMAO!
LMAO!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
“I see no X here.” —> “I see no movement [or: platform] here.”
From the game “Adventure” or “Colossal Cave,” originally written in Fortran by Will Crowther and greatly expanded by Don Woods.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/ColossalCave
Don't you know?
For this group of so called feminists, it is all about identity politics and the cult of personality.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
@gulfgal98 They don't even do
They don't even do identity politics right, or they'd be trying to repeal the Hyde Amendment.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I love ridicule.
It lets you know your hitting the right nerve.
Feedback is a good thing.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I've about had it with
Debbie Whatsherbutt Schmuck and all the other elitist assholes that are so completely out of touch with why main stream America is so pissed off at them. They are either brain dead or they just don't give a fuck. Neither one speaks well of them.
I woke up this morning determined to drink less, eat right, and exercise.
But that was four hours ago when I was younger and full of hope.
Yeah, kinda the same strain of asshole
who asks why so many countries hate America, isn't it? And I'd bet Ms Rios is probably right there with them, screaming the same damned thing and wailing about how women need to support women.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
@lizzyh7 Paraphrasing Jimmy Dore
Paraphrasing Jimmy Dore:
"We're not united! I'm not united with your corporate bullshit.That's not happening, Carmen! So this idea that you can slap your fucking face on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, and somehow that means all us women are going to come together, because now your face is there, is bullshit! That's not happening; I'm not coming around to corporate bullshit. If you want to get me to "buck up" and support your brand of feminism, start caring about women who aren't multimillionaires and try to improve their lives. Try to improve their lives by appealing to the people you're supposed to represent: not the Democratic party, not the mainstream media, and not the donor class. Where's your fucking platform, Carmen? Where's your platform for repealing the Hyde Amendment? Where's your platform for legalizing RU-486 or similar medication, and getting it covered by insurance? Where's your platform for guaranteed incomes for expectant and new mothers, along with high-quality guaranteed healthcare for them and their children? How much money are you putting into creating support networks for girls who get slut-shamed on the internet, versus how much money you put into Hillary Clinton's fucking campaign? Where's your platform for requiring corporations which employ 50 people or more to provide high-quality, government-regulated and -inspected childcare for every employee who needs it? Where's your fucking platform, Carmen? You ain't got one except telling people like me to shut up and vote for Hillary Clinton. I'm telling you to shut the fuck up, get your head out of your ass, cause you're a loser, and so's Ms. Magazine, NOW, and NARAL, and the whole feminist movement's going down the toilet because people like you keep telling people like me to "buck up." I'm telling you to buck up, and speak out against those corporate top 10% limousine feminists, and don't take their crumbs, cause I ain't taking their crumbs. I'm asking you to buck up, and be a fucking woman, and stand up."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
ultimo fortissimo
Why don't you tell them how you really feel, CSTMS? /snark [ducking]
Zowie! There's a rant for the ages! Now to get a choir of suitable size to show up on Ms. Rios' doorstep at 3 AM to sing it ultimo fortissimo!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@thanatokephaloides They don't want me
They don't want me to remain a feminist. They really don't.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Congratulations!
Nailed it.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Identity politics fractures
Aka, why the DP is no longer about trying to win. They'd rather have us distracted by their tweets and media ops, than to see us build a political movement beyond the control of the duopoly.
Fighting for democratic principles,... well, since forever
Why is anyone interviewing DWS
anyway? She's scum. Her opinions never matter. It's time to ignore these people, her heinous included.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
ignore?
We actual progressives won't have that luxury until it can be honestly said about them all (as you say, "her heinous included"):
[video:https://youtu.be/6cMsXBJ0Y98 width:500 height:350]
So long as they breathe, we will need to watch them carefully.
I wish you were right, though. It would be very nice.....
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@Raggedy Ann I think we pay too much
I think we pay too much attention to her, by far, but it would be a good idea to have somebody keeping an eye on her, for the same reason it's a good idea to keep an eye out when you know there's a snake in the house somewhere, but you don't know exactly where it is.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
DWS is a shark, alright, a dead one.
The corrupt stench stinks to high heaven. Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
In their eagerness to serve Hillary, Steinem, founder of Ms.,
and Madeleine Albright both befouled themselves, especially their feminist cred.
A special place in hell for women who don't vote their vaginas instead of their conscience? Are you effing kidding me. How is it feminist to threaten women who don't for a President solely on the basis of genitalia when they think the male candidate is superior? Is that what feminism is about? voting against the candidate you believe is best because he is not a woman? Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot. Madame Secretary Albright. I know Hillary supposedly selected your for your job in Bubba's administration, but gee whiz.
And, from the founder of Ms.: The only explanation for females supporting Sanders is not their conscience, their intelligence, their heart for the 100%, but their desire to be where the boys (read misogynistic Bernie Bros) are. Good God. In the bad old days, the presence of a female in college and especially in law school or medical school was explained by "She is looking for her M.R.S. degree." IOW, hunting for a husband with high earning potential. Gloria Steinem, who made a bundle on feminism, took us right back to 1919. Wowza.
Silly me. I always thought feminism was about respecting, hiring and rewarding women equally with men, not losing your damn mind whenever a women runs for office.
Really. So I missed out on getting into the first female
cohort at Princeton, and got my preciousss PhD at the bottom-of-the Ivies, Cornell. And voted everywhere as soon as I was able. A recent exiter from the D party. Bu-bye! I have never voted for a woman because she was a woman. No herding possible there. This post-menopausal woman, second wave of feminists, supports equal treatment, not in this case Affirmative Action for a former FLOTUS. Not a qualification other than she may have peed in the WH.
Sorry all, still bad-moody.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Voting with something else
♪♫ It’s just a jump to the left
Let’s do the Time Warp again .♪♫
. . . is what instantly comes to mind whenever Susan Sarandon is mentioned.
https://hollywoodlife.com/2015/10/06/rocky-horror-picture-show-reunion-4...
@HenryAWallace No fucking kidding! It's
No fucking kidding! It's an anti-suffragist argument. That's where that argument started.
You could have knocked me over with a goddamned feather, hearing that come out of the mouth of Gloria Steinem.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
the Irish version, classic
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_SDTzIZzTM]
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Still, one of the great man-on-the-street interviews.
Sums it up, and pretty fookin' well too.
The public needs to see more of these sharp, incisive Regular Joe's telling it like it is. Could help galvanize the movement.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Agreed!
It reminds me of the old saw about the difference between an Irish factory worker and the American counterpart:
The American factory worker looks at the CEO's mansion on the hill and says "Someday. Someday, I'll live in a house just like that!" The Irish factory worker looks at his CEO's mansion and says "Someday. Someday, I'll get that fooking bastard!"
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Bookmarked!
One of the very best!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Laughing,
throwing up, crying, heaving my monitor at the wall while screaming 'WTF!'.
Just possible and heartfelt responses to our Dem "leadership".
Dear Dems: You lost the WH, Senate, House, dozens of governors, state level SOS and AG and about 1,000 state legislative seats. Maybe...you're doing something wrong.
Who's to say that politicians,
as members of the private sector, shouldn't be able to make as much money as they want to? Mr.Obama and Mrs.Clinton are just regular American folks, same as you and me -- they'll even tell you so themselves. They just happen to live in better neighborhoods that's all. It's not their fault if bankers keep giving them so much money. I mean if a bank wanted to give you half a million dollars, wouldn't you accept it? Of course you would. So Debbie Wassel-Twassel is right, and we shouldn't pick on these nice people and be envious of them, just because they are getting lots and lots of money.
native
Waiters and waitresses get gratuities for good service
Why shouldn't politicians? They shouldn't be discriminated against just because they worked for the government.
Top quip, CB.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
@native Yes, I'd accept it.
Yes, I'd accept it.
But it would only happen once.
Because when they came around expecting something dirty in return, they wouldn't fucking get it.
Because, unlike Londo Mollari, I don't make deals based on me receiving help now from powerful people who might come around later sometime and expect a favor in return.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I just thought of something.....
Rios' Tweet about Bernie Sanders, and how she wants him to "retire or die":
She knows she, and Her Heinous, and all of her horses and all of her women, can't defeat the ideas and policies Bernie stood for in 2016.
Not even if she, or Her Heinous, runs on them herself. We know we can't trust any of these women around the proverbial glass corner, and we vote accordingly.
So Rios wants Bernie to retire or die, because she knows she can't defeat him in a fair contest.
Sometimes life just sucks, doesn't it, Carmen?
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
We can also take heart that Ms Rios
too will either retire or die one day. If I did the Tweeter I'd love to tweet that right back at her.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
OK
So since the bag of money didn't change hands during the time in office, but after, How DARE we comment on the payoff. OK, payment After delivery,...got it.
The unicorn is a nice touch.
Nothing says "death wish" like a picture of a little girl's stuffed Rainbow Brite Fun Unicorn.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Holy shit! The editor of Ms. is a troll!
She just trolled us! FFS! The editor of Ms. just acted like the most common garden-variety flamefest-igniting troll!
It's like the first time I read that a United States Senator said this:
SANTORUM: We have laws in states, like the one at the Supreme Court right now, that has sodomy laws and they were there for a purpose. Because, again, I would argue, they undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family. And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution, this right that was created, it was created in Griswold — Griswold was the contraceptive case — and abortion. And now we're just extending it out. And the further you extend it out, the more you — this freedom actually intervenes and affects the family. You say, well, it's my individual freedom. Yes, but it destroys the basic unit of our society because it condones behavior that's antithetical to strong healthy families. Whether it's polygamy, whether it's adultery, where it's sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family.
Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that's what? Children. Monogamous relationships. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality —
AP: I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about "man on dog" with a United States senator, it's sort of freaking me out.
Having the editor of Ms. magazine act like a common troll (internetus putrificans) while not quite as stunning as having a sitting U.S. Senator say "man on dog" to the press, is in the same ballpark.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Huh?
I missed it. Which one?
@gjohnsit When I say "us," I
When I say "us," I mean current and former Bernie supporters, not C99.
Her comment ("rejoice, for one day Bernie Sanders will retire or die") was classic trolling, along the lines of I WISH U DI3 COMMIE. It has the bouquet of YouTube commentary.
The only point of her comment was to make all the various Bernie supporters out there get upset and react to her. FFS. This has gotten sad!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver