Open Thread - Friday, October 27, 2017

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Convince yourself everyday that you are worthy of a good life. Let go of stress, breathe. Stay positive, all is well.
― Germany Kent

I wonder whether my new found apathy is a coping technique. I just can not generate any enthusiasm for keeping track of the Shakespearean tragedy that is our political system, and players. So along those lines, I have little to say.

About being worthy: Isn't that the crux of a lot of the problems we have? Some people, for a variety of reasons, are deemed unworthy and everybody needs to to resist the enculturation of such discrimination. Stand up for the less powerful! Children, the handicapped, the poor, minority demographic groups, women, organized labor, educators, environmentalists, anti-fascists, ... all need continued support and rejection of their demonization. Deep breath, relax, ...

Have a great groovy weekend! It is looking like this could be the nicest weekend of the year, so far.

The thread is OPEN. Feel free to talk politics and world order, so I can make snarky comments.

Treat yourself well.

Peace.

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Raggedy Ann's picture

Losing a spouse keeps ones attention on a plethora of things for the first year. It IS how we cope after such a tragedy. It's why the drama around you is meaningless - something more tragically meaningful happened to you, which requires your attention. Humor me for a moment - the morning after I lost my Tom, I was aghast that the world didn't stop to mourn with me. The world kept turning and others kept living their lives as if nothing of consequence had happened, but something eventful DID happen to ME. It took everything in my being to get through it. I was 34 at the time. One year later, I was getting ready for work and suddenly noticed how white my hair had turned - at 35! It's what my coping did for me - all that stress and keeping it together went to my head - literally - or came through my head, I should say. Anyway - just a story to affirm what you suspect.

I lost Tom 30 years ago and it seems I tell at least one story about him a week to someone. It's how they live on through the living beings they left behind. It stays an open wound and I've found that stories are how the living heal - or what has helped me heal - still.

I'm so happy it's Friday, although the week flew by. As we draw closer to year's end, time has seemed to speed up for me. Cold front moving in, but we're headed for a hike in the mountains on Sunday with our granddaughter. Looking forward to it!

Have a beautiful day and weekend, folks! Pleasantry

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

NCTim's picture

@Raggedy Ann It has been eight months since Sue passed. Sunday is out 34th wedding anniversary and Wednesday would have been her 59th birthday. I miss her terribly.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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@NCTim And much pensiveness can occur. I can tell you it just gets more wistful, at least for me.

Spent an hour rinsing/soaking, repeat, trying to wash dried blood out of my hair. It will take a few more times of the same. Most definitely post-concussion. My mind just flies. Poor football players.

I am incapable right now of staying true to course. Just hop, skip, stumble. Early symptoms of an upcoming gallbladder episode. Another night of no sleep up front. Charge Kindles and pre-load with books. Preparation is the sign of an ordered mind?

Heavy weather for late this weekend. Peace on.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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@NCTim
in-your-face reminders. Birthdays and anniversaries. You are coming up on the holidays - Thanksgiving and that December one, then there's Valentines. Time and distance is important. Once you've made the year circuit, it begins to get easier. It is NEVER easy - just easier with time. Sorry 2

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@Raggedy Ann
my Tom, I was aghast that the world didn't stop to mourn with me. The world kept turning and others kept living their lives as if nothing of consequence had happened... "
Likely the world telling us, "see, you weren't so special after all." Except, of course, to those that matter.

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@Wink
who do we matter to? we find out when we die.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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Love your morning quote, needed and appropriate.

Been down in your neck of the woods, CH hospital, this past week and it appears i'll be making the trip often in the coming months; more about this tomorrow.

Leaves are gone up high and we expect snow Saturday night, wish my body was better ready for ski season.

Encountered a new problem with Mom's house, mold. In just a month since i was last there, three rooms on the shady side of the house molded. A problem, can't afford to keep the heating and cooling system on there.

Hoping we can see each other on one of my upcoming trips to the Hill.

Have a good one!
>3 Smile

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@smiley7 If you are going to be on the Piedmont, text me. I have to work at keeping busy and would gladly meet up. I had been considering a ride in the hills. This latest cold front is a paradigm shift and I need to sort out what to wear and carry along. We are looking at a few days in the 50s, then back to the 70s.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

QMS's picture

Thanks Tim, those old organs could almost talk in a language of their own. Love that jazz. Trying to remember a jazz number with "going right out of my head" and "instead of one head I've got two" in the lyrics. A female singer. Oh, well. It may come to me. Cheers!

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@QMS Thanks! The lyrics did not light up a memory trace.

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@QMS
by Little Anthony and The Imperials.

Second one could be "Twisted" by Annie Ross (or Bette Midler), but I can't put the two into the same song.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris @enhydra lutris Thats the one! ohmy gosh, now I know the name of the song. Twisted. many thanks!

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@enhydra lutris this is the one I used to get straight on, it;s all coming back to me now...scary

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@QMS

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@QMS
[video:https://youtu.be/l6OYSDYuvoA?t=13]

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

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@studentofearth now that I have a handle on the name, I'll get the version they played back in Phoenix. thanks

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Lookout's picture

I prefer your approach to helping those around us who have less and are in need. That certainly provides more good than worrying about tiny hands, tax cuts, healthcare, etc....

The leaves here are beginning to change and forest is lighting up. Great hiking weather...no chiggers, ticks, nor snakes. My neighbor is pressing cider this weekend and hosting a gathering. I'm afraid it will be rained out. Rain is supposed to come in all day tomorrow.

Over on Sand Mountain they're pressing cane to make sorghum syrup...
https://maxhunter.missouristate.edu/songinformation.aspx?ID=1593 (3 min with lyrics)

BYE AND BYE
Oh the time of the year that I like the best,
The time when the mule walks round the press,
Gals put on their gingham dress,
Bye and bye.

The leaves are red and the ground is cold,
Sap's gonna rise so I've been told,
We don't care if the frost is coming,
Bye and bye.

Down the road came an old tar heel,
on his back a sack of meal,
by his side an old hound dog,
Bye and bye.

Well he traded the meal and the hound dog too
for a kiss from the gal that's dressed in blue,
prettiest gal he's ever seen,
Bye and bye.

Well folks come from here and there,
Folks come from everywhere,
the old mule keeps going around,
Bye and bye.

Well they come for to dance, come for to sing,
Come for to make the rafters ring,
Come for the cane and they come for the sorghum,
bye and bye.

Well folks come from all around
Wagon tracks tearing up the ground
Come for the cane and they come for the spark
Bye and bye.

So we built a fire 'neath the old iron pot
Cook up the cane 'til it's boiling hot
In the dark we'll steal a kiss
Bye and bye.

I find nature (and music) to be an escape from the insanity of the world. Here's hoping we all find a little sanity in our various corners of the world.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

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@Lookout if the sorghum grind by circular horse still operated in Gnaw Bone, Brown County, IN. Our father turned us on to sorghum/margarine. I have made sorghum/butter since.

He also demanded that his Hoosier wife learned to make red-eye gravy. I think she used instant coffee.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

Thanks Monsanto. I am always buying tostadas and tortillas from the Mexican market here, they are cheap and delicious, but no non-GMO label. Happy Friday! Moar snarky comments please. Thanks.

GM corn found in over 90% of tortillas in MX

She also believes that Mexico produces enough corn for human consumption, “native and hybrid and transgene-free.”

The 10 million tonnes of corn Mexico imports from the United States every year “should be used only to feed livestock or as highly processed industrial consumables, and no longer for human consumption, much less if it is contaminated with glyphosate,” said the researcher.

Álvarez-Buylla recommended more support for subsistence and agro-ecological farming of “highly nutritional” native and hybrid varieties of corn to cover the country’s needs.

Right on! I want some of what they're having. Analogous (native, healthy) systems for the win. Shake it.

Peaches & Herb Shake Your Groove Thing 1978

Corn is why Iowa always "votes" first, right? Yuge corn lobby.

good luck

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This is the original recording. Little Anthony had a very high feminine sounding voice. It has been recorded by great female soul singers like Gloria Gayner. Dionne Warwick, The Fifth Dimension and Sergio Mendes/Brasil '66 have also covered it. I may have the original somewhere in my soul collection; I remember when it came out. I love it, needless to say. LOL. Smile

Hola Biker Tim: I think the apathy is coming from your slowly adjusting to the sad fact that Sue has passed on. I really believe that true grieving proves that a human being can love and does so. It damned tootin' makes perfect sense to me!!!!! Okay, time to shake our groove thangs and get down!

RIP Fats. You will always be the great NOLA piano man! Rec'd!!

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

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enhydra lutris's picture

later for the tunes.

Being worthy, of some select special honor or reward , was at times, in times of yore, a real thing. Sadly, it is also a key to tribalism, especially as practiced by religionistas. It is a weapon of "othering", where one is deemed not worthy of inclusion in something that is nothing more special than a clicque, a tool to stroke the ego of some by deeming others to be lesser, auslanders, based on nothing real. It then devolves further into not merely arbitrary and capricious discrimination, but discrimination against the unfortunate.

All one can do is note it, call it out and condemn it, and refuse to participate. Given its myriad manifestations, that alone could easily be a full time job (and possibly leave one largely friendless).

Have a good one. Gotta get getting.

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Support who you are man, sending you love and light from inside our 1996 truck camper.

Twitter wit

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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Support who you are man, sending you love and light from inside our old 1996 fiberglass truck camper.

Thought was funny:

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

interesting

WikiLeaks' publication of thousands of emails apparently hacked from the Democratic National Committee was legal and specifically protected by federal law, the Trump campaign argued in a court filing Wednesday.

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