Open Thread - Friday, April 19, 2019

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For centuries the death penalty, often accompanied by barbarous refinements, has been trying to hold crime in check; yet crime persists.
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Good Funkin' Friday!

Count off and split into tribes.

The only thing I am on board with is that Fredo is too funking stupid to know what he is doing.

Just sayin'.

Thankful to be old, and hopefully miss the end of humanity.

Oh well.

Have a great weekend. The thread is OPEN.

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Thanks for the Burnside. A funkin' good groove to get going. Full moon, full throttle, high octane java juice and we be gone.

Cheers!

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@QMS Temp is hovering around 70. Sat on back deck drinking coffee, eating pastry and watching the rain blow in. I noticed the full moon, last night. Carry on.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

Six Million Dollars in the first quarter. Link to news story
This is the store that I like and use. There are several cannabis dispensaries in this one small town. This story is about one of them. New York State Failed to pass legalization of cannabis in the budget process this year. Effing idiots!

I lost a CA friend recently. He was 99.5 years old. In WWII he was the pilot of a bomber plane and crew that flew the full 25 missions from England hitting Germany. Not many of them made the full 25 without getting shot down. When I met him he was in his 60's and retired from the phone company. He loved wind surfing and spent most of his free time doing that. He kept it up until he was in his late 70's. Then a shoulder surgery put and end to that recreation for him.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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Thought you might enjoy a different flavour of music. From the NZ music scene, a blend of jazz and hip-hop …

Although Scott's not the only local rapper taking influence from smoky jazz grooves, he has taken it further than most would dare; many tracks here hover around six or seven minutes. This is not lightweight fluff and there's no doubt it will be a challenging listen for those not hip to occasional bursts of jazz indulgence.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&o...

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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@janis b
An NZ story: Kakapow! Rare world's fattest parrot has record breeding season

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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@Azazello
and figured that you were talking about Alabama.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@Azazello
cameraman received from this frisky Kakapo...

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@Azazello The Kakapo is a great conservation success story. Hopefully they can do the same with the Night Parrot (different species) in Oz, which was also long thought extinct. The islets offshore NZ turned out to be critical refugia as the pigs, cats, rats, and other introduced vermin did not get to them. Ground nesters like Kakapo or Kiwi were doomed on the big main islands. Thanks for the pointer and airplay AZ.

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We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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That Camus ~ he was one savvy hombre. Our society, on the other hand, well...what can one say that hasn't already been said? Unknw

My mom used to talk about how hard life was. I didn't get it. I'm starting to get it, however, as I get closer to my 70's. I hope we don't see the end of humanity, but some people are pretty determined to make it a living hell for the rest of us!

Have a glorious day and weekend, folks! Pleasantry

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Women are human beings, not prey.
(I forgot where I read it although it might have been in The Intercept)

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@Raggedy Ann I have a feeling old and alone is gonna suck.

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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The additional “s” seems to be preventing the post from being recognized as an open thread and automatically being listed as such in the left-hand column.

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@lotlizard
Yes, it is very specific on the tag line. I've had that trouble before. Thanks for pointing it out.

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@QMS I had been demoted. A form of age discrimination.

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@lotlizard Thanks!

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

Cancer-causing chemical taints water after deadly Paradise wildfire

The drinking water in Paradise, Calif., where 85 people died last year in the nation’s worst wildfire in a century, is contaminated with the cancer-causing chemical benzene, officials said.

Officials believe the contamination happened after the November firestorm created a toxic combination of gases in burning homes that got sucked into the water pipes as residents and firefighters heavily drew on water sources to combat the fire, the Sacramento Bee reported Thursday.

Officials say that may explain why benzene, which has been linked to anemia and leukemia, has been found in tests at various spots, rather than from one source in Paradise, which was largely destroyed.

The chemical occurs naturally in fire; is part of crude oil, gasoline and cigarette smoke; and is used to make plastics, synthetic fibers and other products, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

WTF I never knew benzene occurred "naturally in fire", however I did know it "is part of crude oil, gasoline and cigarette smoke; and is used to make plastics, synthetic fibers and other products".

“It is jaw-dropping,” said Dan Newton of the state Water Resources Control Board. “This is such a huge scale. None of us were prepared for this.”

omg no one could have known again
State Waterboard finally getting a come-to-jesus moment on plastics, too little, too late. sry
"The future happens here first"

Burning Plastic Pipe

cancerous
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My friendly neighbor who calls me his "Trash Warrior" buddy for picking up street garbage, he is moving to Wisconsin tomorrow. Door County looks pretty nice. good luck

To me there seems to be a giant sucking sound of good people leaving California. Not nearly as many as the grifters who arrive, not nearly. wah

oh well
thoughts and prayers

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

@NCTim wow she is depressing and I am having none of that this morning but thanks anyway. Good Friday, have a Great Weekend.

Willie Nelson - Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die

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Sonoma County bans hemp cultivation, citing need for tighter regulation

Sonoma County supervisors on Tuesday narrowly approved an immediate ban on the cultivation of hemp, a move aimed at preventing the proliferation of a minimally regulated crop, a close relative of marijuana that lacks the psychoactive punch but can be far more profitable than wine grapes.

The measure passed on a 4-1 vote, with Board Chairman David Rabbitt opposed and four votes needed to put the ban in place before state registration of hemp growers starts in about two weeks.

That state oversight it expects carries minimal restrictions on cultivation of a plant that looks and smells just like pot.

teen spirit

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Thankful to be old, and hopefully miss the end of humanity.

Depends on your definition of "humanity."

Just being a gratuitous wiseass. Lots of evidence of that humanity abides. Example: Someone stole the prosthetic leg of a little kid. Replacement cost: 20K supposedly. (Why the hell does it cost so much? It's mostly plastic, ffs.) Very soon after a local news program announced that, more than money was raised to replace it.

On the other hand, whoever stole the leg seems sub-human. It's not as though you can take a prosthetic leg and stick on it someone of any age for whom it was not made.

One of the best things about posting on this thread is wishing everyone an enjoyable weekend and that is what I wish all of you.

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@HenryAWallace Tomorrow is 4/20.

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to go save themselves. Good day to be subversive, maybe repurpose something or give something away. Heh. Internet keeps dropping out, throttling? Ah well plenty of other stuff to do today anyway. Great tunes, thankx.

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@enhydra lutris I think I will buy the first round tonight.

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How about this for hope? Gives me hope anyway. Maybe we can recreate our culture and society. Lots of folks want to make the transition. Check it out...
https://rebellion.earth/2019/04/19/international-rebellion-update-4-busi...

Magiamma posted a clip of this speech yesterday, but the whole thing (13 min) is powerful to me. The 16 year old is the adult. Ironic.

Love the analogy of how people reacted quickly when Notre Dame burned yet sit by as the planet burns.

Everybody knows...

Have a good Good Friday!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout

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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -

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Is "You can't trust the Mueller report at ALL!" EXCEPT the part where it says that Russia interfered with the election. That we can take on faith!

I have seen this kind of logic before. In Premillennialism Dispensationalists... you know, the folks who literally believe that Jesus will beam them up to heaven, giving them a complete pass on that whole DEATH thing. They believe that you have to skip around in the bible, ignoring certain things, but paying EXTREME attention to tiny little details that have zero meaning on their own, but if you look at them in the right light and squint... it all makes sense.

It's faith now. Deal with it. We've got a cult running the show, and there's no way that they'll give it up as long as the cult leaders keep control. You can scream all you want about their lies, but until the people are willing to compare ACTIONS and rhetoric, they ain't gonna see the truth.

You can't make a man free. They have to do it themselves.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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@detroitmechworks It's all funkin' bullshit. The herd management intent is simply to get you into one of the corrals. Nobody is right, if everybody is wrong.

I am a free range DFH.

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trump amerika's last president

Caitlin Johnstone

Anyone who's sure they know what humanity is and where we're headed is suffering from a psilocybin deficiency.

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@ggersh
and the video editor gets in for life.

Forwarded note from the Assocication of German Bitches.

ok, that's enough idiocy for today. I take a hike.

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Mueller report? Who are the ones who are allowed to make redactions? Are they less than two hands full, several tenth of people, several hundreds? Over thousand? Where do they work? FBI? State Department? Pentagon (NSA, CIA, NDI? Congress? Supreme Court ? Other Courts?

I can't understand. And you c99ers seem all to have done nothing else for the last thirty years to follow these things.

May be someone like Sanders doesn't talk about the things that matter, because if he would talk about them he knows he wouldn't be able to walk his talk and therefore rather talks about something else or says nothing. And this darn campaign season haunts us for another year...

Zum Mäuse melken.

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I really have to (and will) make a point to connect with you more often (you're one of my favorite folks) here!
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Check this bad boy out, from T.O.P.'s latest album ("Soul Side of Town"):

"After Hours"...
(Turn your volume waaayup and checkout the freakin' syncopation...it's wild!)

And, here's something I've posted once before at C99P, a few months ago, from young jazz/funk/fusion genius Jacob Collier, a piece entitled "Saviour"...

Have a good Easter weekend, man!

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"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used." --Hunter S. Thompson

@NCTim
(or a song by Paul Williams at any rate):

We're all born to die alone, you know
And that's the hell of it.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd
And cessation of the bodily experience is not really tragic to the individual experience, as it seems inevitable. So, therefore, finding yourself alone at death's door may be easier to introduce your (ex) self to the new community of free souls. Or something.

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@QMS
for me. i'm afraid that i find the notion that there is any existence, whether of consciousness, or self, or spirit, or any other meaningful thing at all, outside of the corporeal experience, to be ... quaintly wishful.

all that is me, is an outcome of my brain's physics. when it goes, i go, never again to be, just as i never was before.

regardless, i think i will not resist -- particularly if i am, as i expect to be, alone.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd
Not meant to transpire your experience. Just trying to parse the concept of alone + death. Separating the two is what makes our understandings unique. I appreciate the zero before and after idea you express.

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@QMS @QMS @QMS

your trying to parse the concept of 'alone + death'. It made me consider the concept more intimately, as the enigma of life itself is.

*changed one of those pesky prepositions.

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@janis b
on fragile surfaces here. Personally have connections with both the before and after. Difficult to put into physics friendly concepts. Bit beyond scope of comment. Might be fun to explore in a thread.

Cheers dear Janis

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@QMS
you eat what you like, i'll eat what i like.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd
what do they say about politics and religion? Not for the feint of heart or some such. We boldly go where most sensible minds care not to indulge.

Cheers

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@QMS
you'd think that the cascade of purges from various other sites would bring people to some sort of ... mellowing out moment.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

reflective of gentle, lazy mornings. Thanks UR.

Here's my theme song ...

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@janis b
play is from the International Peace Garden.

i think that's the view facing east, with canada on the left and the US on the right.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

It's a very gentle dedication to respecting your neighbour.


https://www.ndliving.com/content/international-peace-garden-continues-pr...

https://www.trover.com/d/1T07H-international-peace-garden-rolette-county...

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@UntimelyRippd
one would think. Dogma, catma, goatma, and all those billions of other ma's may equal out eventually.

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for the colonies, in pursuit of religious freedom ... and immediately set about creating a monosectarian theocracy.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd
Interesting. Pretty sure the pilgrims fleeing their england were running away from something bigger than themselves. They could not change the current structure. Running away from their establishment created a void. Filled by coercing the indigenous to believe like they.

Kinda weird. If one is in a new and strange territory, would it not make more sense to accept the locals (who are not fleeing) than to change them? Rhetorical.

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@QMS

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in denial about its own culture for at least a hundred and fifty years -- that contrary to the model of a culture built from two major influences, French and English, it's actually built on three, but the white folks haven't wanted to acknowledge the indigenous influence. He claims that fairly early on during settlement times, the wiser Europeans realized that the only way they were going to survive the harsh geographical realities of Canada was by adopting various practices from the locals -- basically, by "going native" -- and that this heritage persists in modern mainstream canadian culture.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

that this original sentiment is still alive and very real ...

Europeans realized that the only way they were going to survive the harsh geographical realities of Canada was by adopting various practices from the locals -- basically, by "going native" -- and that this heritage persists in modern mainstream canadian culture.

I don't think it is very alive in American culture. Maybe it's just too big.

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