Open Thread Friday 6-5-2020
A Look at China Part Seven
My intent in the series was to provide basic knowledge to start understanding China and our ongoing relationship with Chinese governments and its people. The story did not begin with the opening of China by Nixon and will not end in our times. Military leaders, policy makers and intelligence services have deep sources of knowledge on China. Most politicians appear to have the same misconceptions as the general public about mysterious China and try to describe China in sound bites.
Maochun Yu, historian teaching at Annapolis provides the best description I have read or heard on Chinese Studies in the United States during a 2015 panel discussion.
(full video 100 min. section on China Studies 38.07 to 40.55)
United State government and intelligence agencies has actively been interfering in Chinese matters for some time.
Around my parents birth Office of Strategic Services was active in China.
(10:05 key section 7.54-9.17)
around the time of my birth CIA was training Tibet rebels in Colorado.
(8.41 min if times short 5.21-6.41)
And within the last 10 years China identified and eliminated multiple CIA operatoves.
The spark leading both countries to public protests was law and order. In Hong Kong the protests started with potential change in extradition rights. In the United States the protest started to try and halt the rights of individual officers to kill citizens at any time or place without any consequences.
By and large, America’s finest upheld their duty to protect law and order with clubs, teargas and rubber bullets. In three days of peaceful marches and not so peaceful riots, more were arrested than the total arrested in Hong Kong after more than three months of disturbances and mayhem. By the end of last week, 13 people had been killed.
Members of the media covering the protests became deliberate targets of police harassment with teargas and rubber bullets. One photojournalist lost her left eye to a direct hit by a rubber bullet. She expressed being “thankful” that it was not her camera-shooting eye, which would have been career-ending.
In Hong Kong, the Western media were free to roam, run interference for and select the protest scenes that met their needs to report on police brutality while ignoring the rioters and arsonists doing the destruction.
While looters in American cities were indiscriminate and their actions included the random destruction of shops owned by ethnic minorities, the looters in Hong Kong were careful and selective and targeted stores with mainland owners.
The rioters in Hong Kong seem to have been professionally trained. They knew how to make Molotov cocktails to deadly effect and use the umbrella to fend off teargas.
The rioters in Hong Kong were led by experienced advisers who knew how to create mass disturbances. The protests that led to riots in the US were spontaneous and driven by rage.
Our country has its own issues with Hong Kong extradition process. Hong Kong extradition process allowed Edward Snowden the time needed to avoid extradition to the United States.
Just before sovereignty over Hong Kong passed from Britain to China in 1997, the US signed a new extradition treaty with the semi-autonomous territory. Under that treaty, both parties agree to hand over fugitives from each other's criminal justice systems, but either side has the right of refusal in the case of political offences.
Beijing, which gave its consent for Hong Kong to sign the agreement, also has a right of veto if it believes the surrender of a fugitive would harm the "defence, foreign affairs or essential public interest or policy'' of the People's Republic of China. In short, the treaty makes Snowden's fate a matter of political expediency not just in Hong Kong but in Beijing.
Fast reader, slow writer and responding to comments takes more time than creating the diary. I appreciate the time and effort everyone has taken to share their knowledge.
Asia Times - covers all of Asia with varying view points
CCTV documentaries - the cadence is more Chinese that American
Global Times - China and World news with a Communist Party of China viewpoint
Financial sites such as Reuters when I had a subscription Wall Street Journal
A Look at China Part One Potential Conflict with China
A Look at China Part Two Documentary Series on development of Chinese culture
A Look at China Part Three Timeline of Christianity in China beginning prior 100 AD
A Look at China Part Four Century on Humiliation
A Look at China Part Five Players on the Path to Westernizing
A Look at China Part Six Trade and One Child Policy (comment thread)
Open thread all discussions are welcome.