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Open Thread - 07 May 2026 - $5K per Household?

$5K per Household?
A recent article from Really American notes that Representative Ro Khanna, during the session on the 29th April that Defense Secretary Hegseth had with the House Armed Services Committee (it lasted 6 hours, that session!), said that there are estimates that the war in Iran is costing each American household $5k. Hegseth said the overall cost is lower, $25 billion instead of $631 billion, but that is still $600 per household. Now, I think it needs to cost each American household $0. In other words, it needs to not be happening!

And, of course, this doesn't even include the costs of the sanctions, the gas/oil/diesel/wev costs, grocery costs, and everything else. So I wonder what the true cost of this Trump crap is? Really? It cost over 100$ to fill the gas tank of our Toyota Tacoma truck yesterday. 100$! And it was over 350$ to go to the grocery store to get 3 bags of groceries, cat litter, some soda pop and toilet paper! Gads!


Yep!

The Really American article above discusses a Jon Ossoff ad and that discussion, and the ad, are pretty darn good. I generally hate political ads, but this one made me actually think a bit instead of just scoffing. You can read about the ad in the article link here, or, here's the youtube link to the ad:

I dunno, maybe Ossoff is doing ok, as much as possible. But it seems to be true that almost every good politician changes once they are completely sucked into the whole DC culture. Still, we gotta keep on keeping on, don't we!? Hoping for the best, when possible? Or tuning out completely, which is also a viable option at times.

Here's the open thread! What's up, whatcha doing? Reading? Thinking? Listening to? Remember, everything is interesting if you dive deep enough, so tell us about where you're diving!

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Sima's picture

Hope everyone is having a great day! We are doing ok here, lots of yard work to get done. What's up? Let us know!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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@Sima

I put this comment on the wrong thread this am:

"There are current costs, future costs, and opportunity costs. I haven't heard administration officials, including pentagon officials, or even the traditional defense industry think tankers discuss any of these in any meaningful terms. They are still on autopilot after wasting untold trillions in the previous wars." There are no do-overs in real life. Once it's gone, it's gone.

Fuel was 4.59 as of yesterday. A couple of the big box outlets offer maybe 20 cents less, if you want to wait in line. Ms. So has reported recently that some meat prices have doubled in recent months. She said beef ribs (kalbi) were 84 dollars to prepare a dinner for four. We don't usually eat that way (almost never), too expensive. Well we used to, when prices were much less. Skirt steak, generous portions for four, 45 dollars. Someone in the family still likes to eat that way, so we notice the price when we visit, and bring dinner with us. One of the chains, Sams I think, has a loss leader on broiled whole chickens, it's around 5 dollars, ready to eat. Doubt if that will last.

I listened to a video last night by a high school dropout who demonstrated more knowledge concerning the Florida real estate market than most experts I've heard. I'm learning the hard way, humble pie. Why is it that most RE new sales were by the new home builders? Did you know that the biggest new home builders are basically owned by the big wall street investment firms? The fine for employing immigrants unlawfully is 1000 a day. Small builders can't afford it. So the increased enforcement of immigration laws tends to enforce the monopoly. 1000 a day is nothing to them. They are or at least were buying up used homes and renting them. When the builders disappear on a weekday, we joke about this, only half kidding. Is ICE in town?

The big builders/investment houses have their fingers in all aspects of the pie, the mortgage market, the insurance, setting up the HOAs, the CDDs, etc. The latter in particular, transfers developer costs to homeowners. In all both enticement and trap. The local governments go along for the revenues. I just learned from someone who specializes in covering the legislature, that the chairman of the appropriations committee in the legislature, the person blocking the tax relief for homeowners, is from this very area. What a surprise, not! My belief is the gov isn't serious. So who is running things here really? The big Wallstreet investment houses. You know the names. I know a small builder personally, he offered me a no hoa new home, about 125 miles south of here. I declined, it might as well be on the other side of the moon, and defeats the purpose of moving here altogether. The traffic is unbelievable. I can't stand it.

I did notice after the devastating hurricane in 2022 the huge increase in insurance costs. New home builders get much lower insurance costs by the underwriters. Mortgage lenders won't lend on older homes because the insurance costs are prohibitive. I think a lot of closings fail on this basis for used homes. No insurance, no mortgage. So, as a practical matter insurance costs keeps a lot of people from purchasing homes, along with the high property taxes. The politicians here promise tax relief but it never comes. So the old timers stay in their old homes, forego insurance, and keep their grandfathered in low tax assessments. I knew this and don't blame them at all.

However, at my age, even though I too am in survival mode, had to move to be near family for the next disaster, natural or otherwise. I understand some in laws will be moving here too in the near future. They have two infant children. We're too old to manage the consequences of another disaster alone, no matter what it is. I hope I never have to move again. I wish my neighbors old and new, luck with the next hurricane season. The last two killed a few, injured others. We still have nightmares about flooding. We're too old to lug sandbags anymore.

The morning cereal I eat doubled in price in the last several months, so I made a concession, eat brand X at half the price. So Ms. So brings home the same expensive cereal and puts it on the table yesterday. I told her, I don't need to eat this anymore, it costs too much. Ms So says "you only live once, live it up!"

Just for the spectacle, the video below (about 2 min). I don't really enjoy BTS, ignored the fanfare here recently about their visit, but Zocalo Plaza is beautiful-

Thanks for the OT Sima.

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己所不欲,勿施于人。

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@soryang
of what's going on in some areas. Me and hubby have noticed the rise in meat prices as well. It's insane, just insane. And the insurance prices on everything have gone up, and the costs to get your vehicle checked over and serviced with a regular service, and basic food prices and... everything.

We are hoping to only move once, or twice, again. Basically if our dream of moving overseas happens, that's one move. The last move is into a old folk's home. Anyway, I hope things go well this year, no hurricanes, nothing like that!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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It's a rainy one here which is OK by me. We don't really need it
but since so much of the country is dry guess we are favored.

So the orange lunatic taco'd on project freedom after Saudi and Kuwait
closed their airspace to US fighter flights. Not making many friends in the
region for sure. Then he ordered a missile strike on an Iranian tanker in the
Gulf of Oman. Playing with fire.

Your observation on the cost of trumpet's epic failure excursion is rapidly
destroying his MAGA base support. More and more pundits are questioning
his grasp on reality. It will catch-up to him, soon I hope.

The MSM can no longer spin his humiliation on the world stage. A tantrum will
ensue and may jeopardize the China summit.

Thanks for the OT Sima!

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Zionism is a social disease

enhydra lutris's picture

@QMS
for this morning. Bourre was the perfect background music for starting off the day, thanks mucho.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@QMS
And it all follows from the same kind of egotistical, self-centered, insanity he showed for the wrestling stuff. Why anyone thought he'd be different is beyond me. And why did people think some idiot, born into tons of money, continuing with tons of money, has or had ANY idea of what normal people would and will suffer under his stupid decisions? Come on, Bush couldn't use a supermarket checkout, I bet Trump doesn't even know what one is...

Wonder what the focus of his next tantrum (maybe we should call it a trumprum?) will be?

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

I can't remember such a cogent and truthful political ad. They are typically fake marketing ploys.
I wish this guy much luck.
AI centers all over Texas are causing price increases in water, electricity, and at the same time, causing residential property prices to tank. Who wants to live near the noise n bright lights that never turn off? We have lots of water in East Texas, and sooner rather than later, they will be here. I joked with a friend from San Antonio yesterday that, given they are dotted with AI centers, the River Walk will soon be renamed The Walk.
My health insurance cost increased because I saw 2 drs last year. I specifically saw the dermtologist to order some compounds for skin rash treatment (in case I broke out) because I figured with the tariff war with China, they may be scarce in the future. The other was to have a dr. take a look at some itchy bump on my hand, likely an insect bite.
My home insurance increased. My office insurance increased. My property taxes on non-homestead acreage increased. Utilities increased. Garbage disposal cost increased. Auto insurance increased. Packaged mail costs increased. City sewer costs increased.
War should be defensive only.
Thanks for the OT, chica!

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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@on the cusp
Exactly!

Yea, I thought the political ad was pretty good. And I usually scoff at or hate them. Heh.

AI centers are trouble here too, I think they are trouble everywhere. They take resources, drive up costs, and seem to do little for the local people. Maybe I'm wrong about that last bit, but it sure seems that way.

I'm 'lucky' I guess in that I have WA state healthcare, and the insurance that comes with that. It means many things are paid for by the state. But the costs still go up, and the local hospital system (which is run by the Catholic Church!) is cutting all kinds of services. Most have to do with children, women and so on.

Ahh well, on it goes, doesn't it? Costs go up, wonder if we'll ever see them go down?

Have a great weekend!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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has now passed, and the snow is melting off at a rate of knots. Lots of branches stripped off of the non-native trees, of course- as is usual for a heavy spring snow like this.

I moved the tomatoes back outside so that they can continue hardening off- it is sunny now, high of 66 today, and we should be staying above freezing for the season now. I'll pop the tomatoes into their destination container over the weekend, and then it'll be time to prep for my surgery next Thursday. I won't be doing any heavy-lift gardening for several weeks after that, because I sure as hell don't want to have to go through this again. And I can't *wait* to see what the bills total up to this time.

We discovered an interesting app called "Toogoodtogo": it offers grab bags of food from local restaurants and grocery stores, made up of overstocks or items that have hit their sell-by dates, often at deep discounts. A bag of various meats from Whole Foods came in at about 20% of the original listed value, for example. And the local Ikea sells whatever lunches didn't get sold for $6 a bag, which isn't too bad if you like lingonberries and Swedish meatballs. They list in a general way what they have, you reserve a bag, and go pick it up at a specific time. You don't get any choice as to the details of what's in the bag- but so far, we haven't been too disappointed. It offers a way to save a few pennies. It might be worth checking out, if it is offered in your area.

Meanwhile, the news is newsing, and I am ignoring it. I suppose that there will be primaries, which will either be mechaniked, hacked, or simply ignored outright by the Uniparty. That ship has sailed.

We as a nation will continue to squander every penny we can borrow on our wars of choice, until some external force stops us. And frankly, I've given up caring about that. There's nothing I can do about it anyway, without getting ballistically freedumbed for my troubles. Very, very rough times lay ahead.

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@usefewersyllables
Awesome. We can grow tomatoes outside here, but the usual fall frost, which comes very early, does them in. Over the years we've lived here, we've determined that our last frost can be in early July! So, tomatoes get grown in the greenhouse. Heh.

Fingers crossed that your surgery goes very well and is the last that is needed. Will be thinking of you next Thursday.

'toogoodtogo' - I'm checking out the app now. It might help, or maybe some of my friends who live in a less rural area can use it. Yes! There are places to pick up bags in the more urban areas around here, but they are here. Awesome!

I'm afraid I agree, very rough times are ahead. And I'm sorta not newsing it either. What's the point? I guess it gives my eyebrows and eyes exercise when I raise them and roll them...

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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around the house hre, working away at the backlog as it were. Read the following Asia imes article to see if I should send it to selected friends and relatives and decided it was a good enough historical and cultural summary to post here even though it omits Iraq's invasin and 8 year US backed war from 1980 to 1988.
https://asiatimes.com/2026/05/irans-long-history-of-standing-firm-agains...

had pancakes prepared by my wife while viewing some of the gnus, so time to get going on stuff and finish news and such later.

be well and have a good one.

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@enhydra lutris
Yum! That is a good article you posted, even though it omits the iraq war. Working around the house and yard is good, especially if you get rewarded with homemade pancakes!

Have a great weekend!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

well over 7 bucks at the convenient Exxon station across the street from the Beverly Center.
On Feb. 28, the cheap place was selling regular gas paid in cash or with debit card for $4.09.9.
Beyond that, I have not noticed much inflation at he grocery store, but of course things are just starting to get ugly.

I don't think it matters at all, but I was wrong about the American power structure. I could not imagine the billionaire class actually letting a POTUS fuck everything up. I still think Big Money will ultimately pull the plug on this clown, Trump.

The other half of my personal paranoia was that Trump is a poison pill whose job is to crash the American Empire to make for the Global Rule of Money over a much smaller global population. Trump is doing that job too well, and unless he gets removed from office soon, the whole shebang is going to crash.

There's a lot of noise now of people hoping for a Democratic Sweep to put a halt to Trump's excesses. I wouldn't mind seeing a blue tidal wave this November, but Trump might just cancel Congress as a Fake Something or other. Civil war type shit.

I had other plans.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

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@fire with fire

a blue-team sweep. Who knows? I'm cynical enough at this point to believe that even if it does, all that will change is that the blue-team spokesmodels will use a different set of lies to describe what is going on than those the red-team spokesmodels currently use, while the reality on the ground will not change materially.

Trump will do what Trump will do, and the blue-team imbeciles appear to be just fine with it. They just want the wheel to turn so that *they* get the chance to do it, rather than watching him do it. It is truly a distinction without a difference. And the rest of us will continue to suck hind tit, as always.

Electoral politics will not resolve this situation, since the Uniparty self-sorts for only those candidates who will wholeheartedly and full-throatedly support the status quo. Thus, my lack of interest in the primaries: we already know how the blue-team primaries will come out, by hook or by crook. Realistically, the best we will get is to choose the next (junior) rotating villain. The senior rotating villains are unassailable, as they will never face a realistic challenge...

I truly wish that it were not so. I'm right there with you on the "other plans" thing...

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@fire with fire This writer claims that plans to distract and control us involve fake reporting of little green men. Trump’s upcoming release of UFO info as well as the missing/dead scientists are tied into it.

https://open.substack.com/pub/healthranger/p/the-coming-ufo-disclosure-a...

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Anya

@Anya I do not buy any story that comes from Trump or any other elected politician. And the space goon story from Trump will of course prove how great Trump is.

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@fire with fire
made me laugh, ruefully.

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These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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@fire with fire Here's the link:

https://indi.ca/whats-not-happening-with-iran/

It's worth a full read. CA, by the way, has the worst economy in the nation, or maybe they're tied with Louisiana... it was discussed in Butch Ware's interview on Due Dissidence:

If there's a smaller clip available I'll post it instead. The Ware interview is at the beginning.

The problem is, of course, billionaires. California would be a decent place to live -- indeed it WAS a decent place to live. My parents had a real community of nice people out in Claremont out at the east end of Los Angeles County. But by the time my Mom (born 1937) died toward the end of 2018, my parents' community was either dead or dying or (in one case) moved to New Mexico. There are still a few remnants of my extended family in Washington State.

What happened was, of course, that, back in the Seventies, there was a choice: a better world, or more capitalism. And the clear choice that was made for California was more capitalism, and practically nobody dissented. The fig leaf passed to preserve community: Proposition 13. Well, it's 2026, and that community, my parents' community, the community whose life Proposition 13 extended, is either dying or dead. California is now like: this is, from the evidence of the eyes, no place to live, as none of the boutique stores that once catered to the under-six-figures-per-year crowd can afford to do business in the state anymore. Half the storefronts at the Pacific Garden Mall in Santa Cruz are empty, though there are plenty of unhoused people outside of them. A place like San Francisco has money, but the people have left for the land of work-remotely-at-home, or they're on the streets. And then of course you have the Hell that was made of the state's universities by the Zionist billionaires sitting on the boards of trustees, the country's most expensive gasoline outside of maybe Hawaii or Alaska, and the vast tax regime used to supportt the state's numerous prisons. But the impression given off by the Zillow listings is STILL that Cali is the world's most incredible place evah!

Y'all still in Cali are going to be hurt really hard by the coming downturn, that is if you aren't yet living on SNAP benefits while spending nights in your vehicles.

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"You're just gonna have to start building alternative sources of power both inside and outside the state” -- Greg Stoker

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@Cassiodorus
my family came from the same area as yours. However, my parents moved out of CA in 1980 or so, to WA. At that time Seattle had a sign outside, 'Last one out, turn off the lights' it was in such a bad recession. Silicon Valley was going great, and my Dad helped start some of that. But he got sick of the billionaire stuff and so they moved. I had just started college. Never moved back to CA; your take on what it is like now seems spot on, in many ways.

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These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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@Sima his show.

Now, Keith McHenry is a regular guest on KPFA Flashpoints where, as with the interview I set up between Keith and Dave Munson (a volunteer with KSKQ in Ashland, Oregon), the interviews can go all over the place. But this one seems pretty focused. There are clearly some people there who want Cali to be nice. But the structural choice, ultimately, was capitalism, and the Democratic Party, and so the state was and is ruled by a community of grifters, and so the puzzle was always whether there was anything left behind after the grifters got ahold of Cali's enormous surpluses. There can, from time to time, be a lot. Cali feeds the nation, remember, and houses its ruling classes. Now, of course, unless you are part of that scene, you need SNAP benefits, a vehicle for sleeping, and a spot where you won't be hassled.

The big thing now in Santa Cruz, btw, near where McHenry is located, is high-rise apartment buildings. They're building them at the south end of the Pacific Garden Mall. As someone who lived in Santa Cruz in the Eighties, I have to say, it's weird. But not entertaining.

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"You're just gonna have to start building alternative sources of power both inside and outside the state” -- Greg Stoker

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@Cassiodorus
Dang, Dang! Like I said, my family relocated to the Santa Clara Valley. There were still fruit tree farms and such in the area when we arrived. Anyway, we moved into the Santa Cruz mountains. I went to Santa Cruz all the time... Dang. I can't imagine high rises there. That's insane.

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

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@fire with fire
But I think Trump and his handlers will cancel it. I hope not, but... bleh. Hopefully, big money will pull the plug. If they all start moving everything overseas though, there's our forecast for the future.

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

doing her thing.

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@humphrey
That video made me sick to my stomach. I didn't even know Trump had a faith advisor. Sheez.

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

price tag businesses have another method to rip you off.

The rest of the tweet:

They test Walmart shrimp, bring it to the studio and every bag is half a pound short

This has to be an intentionally large scale scam to defraud Americans at the grocery store

One or two items is a mistake. Every item they pull off the shelves being underweight at specific locations is fraud

And the amount products are underweight isn’t a small amount, it’s a huge amount

We are being robbed blind

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@humphrey
Had no idea this was happening. Now, I feel like I better bring a scale to the store!

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so