Hillary breaks the glass floor
Submitted by gjohnsit on Sun, 07/02/2017 - 3:20pm
Hillary wanted to set a new standard for women, and she did.
Clinton's current favorable rating is just a few percentage points higher than her all-time low -- 38%, last recorded in late August/early September 2016.
Over the past quarter century, the favorable ratings of losing presidential candidates generally have increased after the election -- some in the immediate aftermath and others in the months that followed.
But for Clinton, this has not been the case. Seven months after her failed bid for the presidency, she remains as unpopular now as she was then.
An all-time first for women. Hillary 2020!
At this point, then, it is unclear when or if Clinton's image will recover. Americans have liked Clinton most when her role was less political -- such as secretary of state or first lady weathering her husband's public scandal -- and her ratings have suffered each time she has run for office.
... Trump, like previous winners, did get an increase in favorability shortly after his win, though his current 40% favorable rating remains low in an absolute sense.
Meanwhile, that Democratic Blue Wave is just barely over the horizon.
Keep talking about "Scary Russia" Dems. It'll pay off any day now.
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Her ratings might have been better had she faded away
but she keeps pot-stirring and calculating. And complaining. I have no sympathy, and do not want to hear about Chelsea's plans for "public service".
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
This video cracks me up every time I watch it
Breathe Hillary, breathe
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Every single time I view that video, it becomes more and more
obvious why Hillary lost. Hillary lost because she WAS Hillary. The wrong candidate with the wrong platform for the times.
@CB Not much of a
Not much of a platform.
Been looking for an old political cartoon I can't find; Obama and MLK are sitting together, and King says: "So, that's my dream. You?" Obama replies "I don't know. I just kind of want to give rich people what they want."
That's basically what happens with all the Clinton-wing Democrats. That's why, if you notice, while failed candidates tend to gain ground after losing elections, both George H.W. Bush and John McCain gained A LOT of ground. And G.H.W. was not a guy who ever won many popularity contests.
You put a Clinton Dem in to replace a Republican, and 6-8 months in, suddenly the people go "What's this crap? I thought we voted for something different!"
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@CB I take a different
I take a different view of what the video shows. It shows that she lost because she is a patently dishonest person who tries to cover her dishonesty with smugness. A deadly combination. 70% of the public found her dishonest and untrustworthy. That is why she lost.
@snoopydawg The endless complaining
The endless complaining and blaming everybody but herself was always destined to drive her numbers through the floor.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@snoopydawg She inherits nothing
She inherits nothing from the Democratic Party?!?
Holy fucking shit.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You haven't heard that from her before?
yep, she came up with all kinds of excuses for why she lost to Trump. The biggest lie imo, was saying that sexism was to blame just because she was a woman. That is utterly ridiculous because her gender had nothing to do with my disdain for her. It was her actions when she was in the White House with Bill. She pushed for welfare reform which at the time threw thousands of women and children into poverty and because of the rules enacted then, threw another thousand people of food stamps a year ago.And all the other legislation she helped him pass that is still affecting us.
Then there was her disastrous foreign policy view that saw millions more women and children being killed or having to leave their homes and countries.
At one time I admired her, but then I got to know her and what she stood for.
So no, sexism isn't the reason I abhor her anymore that racism isn't the reason I abhor Obama. It is their actions and their policies. And that the fact that both of them don't give a good goddam how many people they end up killing as long as the money keeps rolling in.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
And what galls me most about the two of them
is how they so cynically use racism and sexism when any criticism of them gets too close to the truth. Obama completely lost me when he said anyone not supporting his bid for TPP was doing it out of racism. And Hillary and sexism, well her actions speak a lot louder than the claptrap she spews from her mouth. And the smugness and arrogance of the both of them, he hides his well (did anyway), she simply cannot hide it, no matter how hard she tries the contempt for other people comes shining through. In fact the more she tries the worse it gets.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
Her was supposed to be the Coronated Heir and Inherit The Earth! And Putin STOLE it by hacking the Electoral College and making them vote for Trump!
Edited because my Withered outrage led me to write 'supposed' twice, for emphasis and to show how deserving Her is to play Her appointed role as The Mad Bomber in those amusing War Games - while Trump now gets to kill innocent people and hogs all of the fun!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@snoopydawg She forgot millenial
She forgot millenial feminists and BernieBros.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
She will
reinvent herself and we will love her new self even more than we loved her old selves.
Please, no Chelsea!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I've always said
I don't think Bernie or Hillary should run again in 2020 - it might be different if Bernie was 10 years younger and Hillary wasn't Hillary.
Some media moron was opining that
Chelsea would one day square off against a third generation Bush, a couple of years back.
I think we've dodged that bullet for good.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Don't count on it.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
It’s a lucrative media franchise and Chelsea’s a big sequel hook
Also, unlike the Kennedys, the Clintons appear to have the assassination-affine elements among the global power players on their side.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheEndOrIsIt
dodge the bullet
From your keyboard to Ceiling Cat's tufted ears!!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@dervish I'd bet more on Sasha or
I'd bet more on Sasha or Malia, but yes, assuming we have a civilization with a pretense of an electoral process, that probably will happen.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Democrats, face it
Hillary Clinton was not just a horrible candidate, but more importantly, she IS a horrible person. I do not understand how the Hillbots can continue to defend this corrupt, self centered and self serving, war criminal. And no we do not want to see Hill Junior in Chelsea who has never been exposed to real life and real suffering in her entire privileged life. Just go away, far away, all of you Clintons.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
To be failr
Rush Limbaugh once called her ugly when she was 13.
I can't imagine the trauma that caused her.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
potkettle calls virgin snow black
spelling corrected
Potkettle calls virgin snow black! Film at 11!
Ugly to the bone, thy name is Rush Limbaugh!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Actually Rush inferred she was a dog
Limburger
My remark stands, then -- better supported than before. Thank you!
Ugly to the bone, thy name is Rush Limbaugh!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@CB
So Rush effectively stated on TV that he did not find one particular 12-year-old child sexually attractive? Why else would he be critiquing(edit: a girl's looks) and terming her 'a dog'?
Can we repeat-Flush any harder, please?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Two words: Dominican Republic
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@CB
Thanks to you both - although I must admit that I would have preferred not being reminded of that, lol. Sometimes forgetfulness can be a mercy...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@Ellen North I recall the right
I recall the right wing attacking Chelsea--at 13--for being "fat."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
It's like a living seminar on 'Things Actual Humans Would Never Think To Try Doing', isn't it? And yet TPTB/pathological Big Donors ensure that freaks like these gain public office...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I think she's cute enough
but that's beside the point. Dragging crap like that into politics is low-brow, Rush's specialty.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
@Steven D I was pissed off about
I was pissed off about that, at the time (and it wasn't just Limbaugh). At 13, she was a non-combatant and should not have been drawn into political battles.
That's by the old rules, which have now been flushed so far down the historical toilet that the rushing water sound is a distant memory.
Of course, if she tries to trade on that now, she's an ass.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The Obamas, unlike the Clintons
and the Trumps, seem to have wisely shielded their children from the worst of US politics.
native
yes!
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
I had a meme for this one
Lonestar Mike
I love you. I love all your wonderful graphics, and this one is particularly great!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
@gulfgal98 Yes! LoneStarMike, you
Yes! LoneStarMike, you do Texans proud! Yes, we do have some fabulous artists, wits, thinkers here!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
A true meme master, easily the equal of any on the Alt-Right
Very glad you’re a c99er rather than a soldier of memetic fortune somewhere in Alt-Right cyber-Kekistan.
Hillary thinks so very highly of herself,
that she is unable to countenance even the possibility that losing the election may have been in any way her own fault. She must spend hours and hours thinking about who else must have been to blame.
native
Hillary did takeresponsibility for her loss
then she quantified it with a but.
Her words:
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Sure, six words before the "but"
and then several hundred after it.
native
She said decisions, but not the election loss
Notice how weasely - "every decision I made" ... and which decisions would that be? Don't ask!
In any case, her decisions are not why she lost, so they don't matter. But it's important to learn the "real lessons" from the campaign. What lessons? That it wasn't Her fault.
Hilz couldn't take responsibility for anything, even if her own life depended on it. She and her minions started coming up with their blame plans on election night. The people swallowing her bullshit, and especially those regurgitating it, are missing a few critical skills, like thinking, as well as their conscience.
You'd hope that people like Nina Turner
would be given the torch to move forward.
Her Royal Clintoness should be consigned to her footnote in history.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
That's because she kept campaigning.
Would be bad for anyone, but it's particularly bad because this is probably the least popular campaign--that was not perceived as a fringe campaign--of my lifetime. Possibly since 1932.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Holy shit, look at Warren's numbers.
Whoopsie!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Purple Strategies LOL! How you make a number go up?
I know I shouldn't laugh but purple keeps haunting, it's all I can do. Clinton can't shake the incumbent label, can't lose it the woods, can't drown it chardonnay, can't buy it a new face. Well maybe, I don't know.
The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell, Transcript 5/18/2016
Steve McMahon (consultant)
Just another coincidence I guess. ~shrug~ Color purple still for royalty only.
peace
Almost as unseemly
as our current president. Creatures like Clinton and Blair could easily live in luxury on the wealth they have "earned", and hang out with their 1% friends for the rest of their days... And their kids and grandkids could pick up where they left off, the latter certainly qualifying for reality shows.
Who knows maybe C. Clinton and her hedge fund manager hubbie could actually do something useful in later life that doesn't entail self-aggrandizement of some sort. Doubt it, but people can change.
The entire upper management of the Democratic Party needs to go. Or we will go. Actually, I've been gone for several years now. And definitely no dynasties, be it Clinton, Bush, or Obama.