The DNC BS on the Platform Explained in One Tweet

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Steven D's picture

when I posted the "essay." I swear I didn't intend to do it. JtC works in mysterious ways ...

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

mouselander's picture

Putting profits first!

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for her State of the Union speeches…

She should consult with Nascar for ideas on a Presidential Jumpsuit so she can wear patches on it for all her corporate sponsors!

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but sometimes you just have to throw them out there even when they are going to sink.

She should consult with Nascar for ideas on a Presidential Jumpsuit so she can wear patches on it for all her corporate sponsors! - Vayle

As long as it's orange, I don't care what patches are on it. - Anonymous Bosch

Orange is the new Patch?

Yeah, I know. I know. Bad pun/joke is not overly punny or funny…but sometimes we're still compared to share the awfulness.

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

"Hillary went to Secretary of State and all we got was this lousy Platform."

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Bernie would say 'WE"

...all we got was this lousy Platform

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

Amanda Matthews's picture

a strong internet presence like we had during the worst of the bush** years. And maybe radio too? Not whole channels of course, but people getting out what the Progressive wing of the real Democratic stands for and making it a familiar feature on the airwaves during drive time. Get on Charlie Rose and the Friday night tall shows that recap the week on PBS and the Sunday yak fests that people truly do love to watch (proving there's a real masochistic streak running through most of our species). Do what Republicans have been doing for a long time. We need to talk to the American people and get them behind us. That's how the real crazies do it on the other side. WE can be the sane ones.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

$14, 400, more or less, and that includes a trip to the hospital for an ultrasound on my leg to determine if a bruise was a blood clot, and a trip to get treatment for a rash on the other leg, and get my teeth cleaned, and an eye exam and glasses.
In the first 6 months of this year, I have spent $5,520, and have not set foot in any office for any medical treatment.
And this is just for me. I have $5,520 to go for the year's remainder of insurance premiums.
I am 10 months away from Medicare.
A lot can happen in 10 months.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

My mother has Humana Medicare and will easily spend over 10 grand this year if she hasn't already reached that mark.

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Could you break it down into costs for premiums and costs for care and meds?
My stuff is premiums and dental/optical insurance doesn't cover. I did get hurt in an accident and got a really deep, suspicious bruise, and some damn bug stung me in Ecuador, caused rash that over the counter didn't fix. I had to go to the dermatologist.
This year, my costs, so far, are premiums.
I am not sick, have no conditions, do not take any prescription meds. I do get my teeth cleaned and eyes examined.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Mother survived septic shock, two weeks in ICU,she had to be placed in a skilled nursing facility, 2 months in now, it is her 20% co- pay and some other unexpected pay that they charge so she is actually paying about 40 %. She is in network. So those expenses plus the hospital bills, Ambulance and EMTs were covered ( about $600). Two weeks of ICU is expensive but that is not what is costing Mother so much, it's the skilled nursing facility and they demand costs "up front" not paid by Medicare. Premium is only 85 month, plus what Medicare deducts from her SS check. She has the last two years qualified for the tax deduction for health expenses. ( mostly prescriptions and co pays for doctors appt. those years)

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Granma's picture

Or owned by Walmart. They are asking for a 65% premium increase in Georgia.

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of a former employer. Michael Moore had it right about their greed and policy of deny, deny, deny all claims.

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Look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Try to make sense of what you see, and wonder about what makes the universe exist. Be curious. Stephen Hawking

mhagle's picture

I retweeted. Smile

Sorry about all of your medical expenses though!

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

the policy I had for $722 had a $6,000 deductible. They cancelled it, and the one I have now for $920 per month is a $5500 deductible. Meds/er/hospital is the same, and still 80/20 on hospitalization.
I haven't even done the preventative health procedures that do not cost me anything.
Why does BCBS Texas hate me? lol!

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Deja's picture

I've had them before (about 10 yrs ago) and I actually read the policy.

It would NOT cover reconstructive surgery for a medically necessary mastectomy. Somethin you don't just decide might be fun or a good idea, ya know?

However, it DID pay to remove a foreign object from the anus.

Granted, the latter is likely cheaper than the former, but unless the object ended up in someone's ass by means of a freak accident, it was put there by someone.

I'd bet the bank that the majority needing reconstructive surgery after a medically necessary mastectomy are female, and the ones needing a foreign object removed from the ass were either males or males were involved in the object getting there.

I was appalled when I read it!

BCBS Texas doesn't hate you. All the insurance companies hate us all. And Obama knew exactly what he was doing - feeding us to the wolves and forcing us to pay for the opportunity!

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that any procedure or method or surgery that promotes quality penis function is cheaper than birth control, pre-natal, vaginal/renal corrective procedures for elderly women...
Somebody prove me wrong, and you can have the farm!!!!

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jorogo's picture

you should get the attorney now.

I had BC-BS deny payment for a surgery that they pre-certified as medically necessary and covered. The hospital billing dept. said they had the BS certification number and the BS denial recorded on the same page of my file. The BS position, and this is a quote, was, "Just because we pre-certified the surgery doesn't mean we intended to actually pay for it". I am not shitting you.

I called the local Bar Association, asked for the meanest health insurance company prosecutor they had. "We have the guy for you" - a former health insurance attorney fed up with aiding corruption, gone rogue and seeking vengeance on their asses. One $300 scorched-earth-threat work of art letter and a few days later, my bill was paid in full. 6 months later, BS hired "Dynamic Recovery Solutions" to re-open my case and re-possess their payment. Another $100 letter put them away, too.

I know all the attorney jokes and sometimes they apply. But if you can get the right one, it can be the best health insurance investment possible. And though this was pre-ACA days, I don't believe that ethics have been legislated.

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"If I sit silently, I have sinned." - Mossadegh

Deja's picture

Too bad the attorney couldn't charge BCBS for his time, and then turn it over to a collection agency. Slimy bastards!

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Do many people even realize that there is such a thing as "Compliance Professionals Forum"?

Let me translate. The company "Dynamic Recovery Solutions" (collection agency) that BCBS hired to "recover" (steal) from me the legitimate contractually-covered payment for my healthcare event, is a member (as they post on their website - "proud member") of Compliance Professionals Forum, whose website displays this mission statement:

The Compliance Professionals Forum is a membership (conspirators) organization (syndicate) that helps compliance (collection) professionals (harassers) navigate (game) the complex and fast changing world of regulatory oversight (law). If you have responsibility (contract) for compliance (capitulation) related to communicating (harassing) with consumers (victims) about a debt (extortion), the CPF is your compass (vindication).

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WindDancer13's picture

Politicians need this one a lot to locate their heads:

However, it DID pay to remove a foreign object from the anus.

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We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass

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Alison Wunderland's picture

If anyone ever doubted we were only milch cows for the .01%, no need to look any further than the Sickness Industrial Complex.

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I demurred paying it, said I would dig up the bill and send a check. The bill came after the courtesy call, for a visit in March. Quick turnaround/s.

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Isn't working out for people?

Thanks Obama!

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

IowanX's picture

And the care was, to my American eyes, excellent. Lived in Nanaimo (on Vancouver Island, across from Vancouver city). My wife's Thyroid meds, we got 90 day subscriptions and very cheap; no issues with blood-taking/testing. Walk-in clinics, knowledgeable Docs, etc. Yes, there WERE complaints about care...but when I heard the complaints, and compare them to what I know about the US system, NBD. I know Canadians DO like to complain. It's their right, and they love to exercise it. All in all, the Canadian tax structure, which heavily taxes "sins", does seem to support a well functioning single payer system. And Canadians have somehow adjusted to paying more for "sin". At least on Vancouver Island.

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tapu dali's picture

Full doctors' visits (including specialists) and hospital/surgery are basically free -- it's around 900 CAD (700 USD) per year as a "surtax", but seniors don't have to pay.

Semi-private (2 patients) and private (1) hospital rooms are in short supply and admittedly more expensive [about 100 - 150 CAD /day], but that's it. No $10/aspirin rubbish. A standard 4-patient ward is no extra charge. Neither is emerg, ICU or close care (post-op).

Ambulance is municipal, not private, and averages 120 CAD per trip. That includes the EMS treatment and care.

I pay $3 per script as a pharmacist's dispensing fee (most meds are free, some are not but workplace insurance covers much of it).

As a retired government employee, both my wife and I get free eye care (i.e. eye exams by an ophthalmologist, and corrective lenses (up to a point -- my cataract surgery was covered, but the toric lens implant was not.)) But it was tax deductible.

Mind you, we probably pay slightly more in income and value added (sales) tax: can't really say.

Why is this "IMPOSSIBLE" in your country??

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

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and were Seasonal Residents in Ontario. He had two emergency visits (by ambulance, via a ferry) to Kingston General Hospital. No OHIP for us. Both times I was approached to pay up, full cost after the first 24 hours. I had US insurance, through United Health Services and international coverage through BCBS. Both times, it took me three ulcer-inducing days to contact BCBS, phone numbers on the back of my insurance card did not connect to BCBS, human voices seemed clueless until I said the magic words "international coverage". Which I forgot between the episodes. My bad.

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came to NY, loaded up their van with beer, went back home.
And had great medical care!

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Ravensword's picture

Hillary said that single-payer healthcare will never happen in this country. The Democratic Party platform needs to reflect this, lest they leave the anointed one looking like the only asshole up on stage.

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Outsourcing Is Treason's picture

The poof is in the platform.

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"Please clap." -- Jeb Bush

Socialprogressive's picture

She never had a soul to buy.

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I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.

tapu dali's picture

"First I close my eyes real tight/Then I wish with all my might/Magic words of poof poof piffles/Make me just as small as Sniffles.".

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There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.

snoopydawg's picture

Obama can't get anything done because of the mean republicans block everything he wants to do, but he has a bully pulpit that has been collecting dust for over 7 years. Remember the signing statements Bush used whenever he didn't like what was in a bill? Has Obama used one even once?
Frequently people defend the Democrats by saying they must compromise with Republicans. But here no Republicans are involved, and it shows the true nature of the party. They either truly believe in the awful status quo, or they are too afraid to challenge it. In the latter case, the fear could only come from their special interest donors, because Bernie's campaign made it abundantly clear that a strong progressive platform won't hurt them with voters. In either case, its clear that the Democrats side with the powerful special interests and against the people.

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Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?

Alison Wunderland's picture

Storytime With AB

When I had my first heart attack, on a Sunday afternoon, I was whisked off to the nearest hospital. They weren't prepared to treat me so they stabilized me and shipped me off to another hospital, where I was poked and prodded with fancy machines and, after they read the machine results, told me I'd get a stent in the morning. Next morning... wheeled to the basement... a couple of teenagers poked a hole in my thigh and did the stent thing. I got put unconscious. 45 minutes later I was back in the room feeling no worse for ware. Things went downhill from there though. They put me in a room with a bona fide geezer who was on his last breaths. He was hooked up to several machines that did everything for him. It sounded like being in a jet hanger. And he wouldn't turn the fucking TV down. So I decamped and went to sleep in the next room, which was empty. The nurses pitched a bitch, so I elected to leave the hospital AMA. I was in (both) hospitals a grand total of 50 hours before returning home.

We didn't have insurance and when SWPUWM tried to get some financial aid we made slightly too much to qualify.

About a month later I got a one-line bill for $121,000. It read "services rendered."

I promptly ignored it. Three months later I got a phone call from a collection agency. I told them to go fuck themselves. The next time they called I told them I wanted an itemized bill and asked how much they wanted.

A week later I got a page-long itemized bill for... wait for it... $4400. I paid it off in four installments. Half, then half, then half, and the remainder.

And THAT is what this entire medical RACKET is really all about.

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tapu dali's picture

It's gone totally RWNJ: anything to support the status quo.

Basically young people whining they can’t get stuff for free. And whining they can’t simply eliminate sources of energy by decree. They take absolutely no responsibility for the consequences of the policies they promote.
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tapu dali Semblance
Jun 25 · 11:03:26 PM

Right, well said. Bunch of whingers.

Climate change can’t be stopped because energy independence.
$15 minimum wage is silly because businesses will fail.
“Medicare for All” is silly because think of the Insurance companies and their employees.
Any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism at its worst.
The TPP is essential to the global economy.
Preserving Social Security, Medicare, and MedicAid as it is will lead to National Bankruptcy.

Quite right. There is no free lunch. If you couldn’t be bothered saving for your old age, medical expenses, etc., I have no sympathy.

Whingers.

/SNARK!!
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Field of Dreams tapu dali
Jun 26 · 12:11:09 AM

The site has gone full centrist, even crossed over.
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khyber900 tapu dali
Jun 26 · 12:54:48 AM

Hillary won the primaries. Her approach on health care won over single payer. Her approach on minimum wage won over Bernie’s. Her approach on Israel won over Bernie’s. I really don’t see what the Sanders folks have to complain about. If you wanted everything phrased exactly the way you wanted, you should’ve gotten more votes. You didn’t. As it is this platform was a generous compromise with Sanders’ views. The platform reflects the will of the whole party, not just the views of Bernie Sanders. He doesn’t own or control this party, and he has no right to dictate terms to the millions who voted for Clinton.

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are no way Democrats, sneering at "socialists", "wanting free stuff", etc.

I'm waiting to read about "takers" and "the 47%" in the near future.

Hillary supporters now = RMoney supporters 4 years ago.

Sad.

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