Comparing the corrupt DNC to Bernie Sanders

The DNC has introduced a resolution calling on Bernie Sanders to officially join the Democratic Party.

Mulholland's resolution says that "the DNC recognizes the important contributions of the independent senators from Maine and Vermont to causes at the heart of the Democratic Party's mission and urge them to run as a Democrats."
It also says that "the DNC urges elected officials, candidates and voters who share common goals and beliefs with Democrats to register or affiliate with the Democratic party in 2017, 2018 and beyond."
Sanders' spokesman didn't respond to a question about the DNC resolution.

It's an ironic juxtaposition, considering how much the DNC has done to undermine Sanders in the past. In fact, just today the DNC disrespected Sanders yet again.

DNC Chairman Tom Perez released the list of his 75 nominees to join the Democratic National Committee yesterday, and you might recognize one or two of the names on it.
...Donna Brazile is a lifetime Democrat, serving on the campaigns of numerous failed presidential candidates. She was also the interim chair of the DNC—the predecessor to Perez himself.
She also worked for CNN in 2016, which is when she forwarded town hall questions to the Clinton campaign ahead of time. Brazile would justify this in a later essay for Time by saying “My job was to make all our Democratic candidates look good, and I worked closely with both campaigns to make that happen. But sending those emails was a mistake I will forever regret.” You’ll notice that she does not say she regrets informing the Clinton campaign, merely that she regrets doing so in a traceable medium.

The DNC telling Sanders what he is morally obligated to do is laughable when you take into account the news from yesterday.

“There is no doubt that at the time Chairman Perez donated or transferred the funds, he was an agent of the DNC, the funds were related to the DNC, and the DNC’s response to the donation demonstrates Perez was acting on the DNC’s behalf,” the complaint read. “Allowing this behavior to go unpunished opens the door for a new level of corruption in party elections—offering campaign cash for support from former opponents. The Commission must immediately investigate and enforce the law.”

And then there is the news from the other week.

The DNC, meanwhile, announced last week that it would donate $30,000 it had received from Weinstein — out of $300,000 he donated to it over the years. But rather than donate the money to charity, the DNC said it would send it to groups that elect women.
...But donating the money to other Democratic groups is a particularly bold strategy. The DNC might as well have just set it aside and said it would reserve that money only for the many female candidates it supports. Of course, we'd never know the difference. As it stands, though, Weinstein's money is basically going to the same cause as he intended — just more narrowly focused on female Democratic candidates.

"Bold" isn't the word I would use. I think "unethical" would be a better word.

The DNC's open corruption has other consequences, and they show up in a way that the DNC actually cares about - money.

Despite DNC Chair Tom Perez’s dismissal of the issue, the organization’s fundraising is plummeting under his leadership. In the month of August, the DNC only raised $3.8 million. In contrast, the RNC raised $7.6 million, almost exactly twice as much. The DNC has $4 million worth of debt, whereas the RNC has no debt. Worse yet, the RNC has $45.8 million in cash on hand, and the DNC has just $6.8 million. August is not an anomaly; it’s a sign of a continuing trend. July 2017 was the DNC’s worst fundraising month since January 2009. In June, the DNC didn’t fare much better, and the organization posted fundraising lows in April and May unseen in nearly a decade for those months.

Now let's compare the DNC's fundraising troubles to Bernie Sanders.

Thinking about running against Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in 2018?
If so, consider this. According to his latest campaign finance report, submitted to the Federal Election Commission last weekend, his senatorial campaign fund has an astounding $5.86 million in cash on hand.
It would be virtually impossible to spend that much money in Vermont, even if Sanders were to face a real challenge.
...A recent Newsweek headline blared that Sanders' presidential fund was $300,000 in debt. That's technically true but misleading. Sanders has a few unpaid obligations, mostly security costs for campaign events, but weep not for Bernie. He's sitting on a pile.

Bernie Sanders, a single independent Senator, has more money than the entire DNC. No other Senator has even half of the cash of Bernie.
Gosh, you don't suppose that the DNC's naked corruption has something to do with that, do you?

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PhoneCo must be working in the box again. Molasses. Or sorghum?

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Shake-up at Democratic National Committee, Longtime Officials Ousted

WASHINGTON — A shake-up is underway at the Democratic National Committee as several key longtime officials have lost their posts, exposing a still-raw rift in the party and igniting anger among those in its progressive wing who see retaliation for their opposition to DNC Chairman Tom Perez.

The ousters come ahead of the DNC's first meeting, in Las Vegas, Nevada, since Perez took over as chairman with a pledge earlier this year that he would unite the party that had become badly divided during the brutal Bernie Sanders-Hillary Clinton 2016 primary.

Complaints began immediately after party officials saw a list of Perez' appointments to DNC committees and his roster of 75 "at-large" members, who are chosen by the chair.

The removal and demotion of a handful of veteran operatives stood out, as did what critics charge is the over-representation of Clinton-backed members on the Rules and Bylaws Committee, which helps set the terms for the party's presidential primary, though other Sanders and Ellison backers remain represented.

Those who have been pushed out include:

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If he doesn't join the DNC, he's a traitor, and will continue to be blamed for 2016 and possibly Russia.

If he does, and never intended to deliver his voters unto the DNC, he'll just be shooting his credibility in the head with an UZI.

If he does, and always intended to deliver his voters unto the DNC, Apparently he thinks that the flashing neon light and Club jacket will be the trick to nailing the Judas Goat routine.

And if it's all about the money, which seems the most likely, does he really want to continue giving money to the Clinton Foundation... And be counted among such luminous public figures as Weinstein...

No way to win this one. Good job, DNC.

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but based on donations and approval ratings, it doesn't appear many are buying it.

a little history about the guy offering the resolution

Bob Mullholand, the DNC member pushing the resolution, has clashed with Sanders and his supporters several times. In an interview with Infowars in February 2016, he predicted that party insiders would favor Clinton to win the nomination against Sanders. In April 2016, Mulholland wrote Sanders a letter complaining about his supporters calling and petitioning superdelegates to support his candidacy. Mulholland led the opposition against re-enacting the DNC ban on donations from corporate lobbyists and PACs that Obama enacted but that was later revoked by former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz during the 2016 primaries.

In the most recent race for DNC chair, Mulholland pushed smears about Congressman Keith Ellison (D-MN) having unpaid parking tickets and campaign finance violations as a state representative. The smears incited Ellison’s ex-wife to write a letter to Minnesota Star Tribune explaining that while she served as his treasurer several of her duties slipped through the cracks due to her struggle with multiple sclerosis. After this, several California DNC members denounced Mulholland’s attacks on Ellison

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@gjohnsit No matter what Bernie does.

It's just whether or not they continue to try to smear him as a villain. If he capitulates completely, he will be a "Politician who puts the good of the people above his own ambition"...

If he doesn't, you can expect a lot of talk about spoiled children.

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@detroitmechworks

the 2018 midterm is Bernie's to deliver according to the Dem Party Leadership. And, it's also the reason that he's increasingly being put forth as the face of the Party. As I type, he's participating in the second CNN Town Hall in several weeks--as the Dem Party representative. (It's another Cruz versus Sanders Debate.)

From Wikipedia,

Since his election to the House of Representatives in 1990, he has caucused with the Democratic Party, which has entitled him to congressional committee assignments and at times given Democrats a majority. Sanders became the ranking minority member on the Senate Budget Committee in January 2015; he had previously been chair of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee for two years. Since January 2017, he has been Chair of the Senate Democratic Outreach Committee.

In addition, the call is for both Independent Senators to join the Dem Party. See below.

Bob Mulholland, a Democratic National Committeeman from California, introduced a resolution that the party will consider at its Las Vegas meeting later this week calling on Sanders and Maine Independent Sen. Angus King -- both of whom caucus with the Democrats -- to actually join the party.

Mollie


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@Unabashed Liberal
at every possible opportunity - see the insane hooraw over Bernie being invited to speak at the Women's Convention (which Her Heinous disdains to attend, probably because they can't afford her speaking fees).

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@TheOtherMaven

I heard about the 'shakeup' at the DNC.

Did you see this?

Shakeup Underway at Democratic National Committee; Several Key Officials Fired

October 18, 2017

A shakeup is underway at the Democratic National Committee as several key longtime officials have lost their posts, exposing a still-raw rift in the party and igniting anger among those in its progressive wing who see retaliation for their opposition to DNC Chairman Tom Perez.

The ousters come ahead of the DNC’s first meeting, in Las Vegas, Nevada, since Perez took over as chairman with a pledge earlier this year that he would unite the party that had become badly divided during the brutal Bernie Sanders-Hillary Clinton 2016 primary. . . .

Now, according to a former RNC Chair (Michael Steele) this is 'business as usual.' IOW, all DNC/RNC Chairpersons bring their own handpicked staffers on board.

Mollie

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@Unabashed Liberal Why is it suddenly an independent Senator from Vermont's responsibility to save the Democrats from themselves?

I mean, he does seem to embrace that responsibility heartily for some reason, but why the fuck can't the party save itself? Isn't it, you know, the DNC's job to promote the Democratic party and make it successful?

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Well, I believe that Bernie's actually just trying to save his fellow-Americans from further avoidable for-profit-inflicted suffering in any way he thinks he might be able to help, rather than saving the Dem party itself, unless it perhaps really can (despite electoral and other cheating) be repopulated with those who actually believe in democracy and a government working for, rather than against, the public interest and thereby shutting out corporate political purchases of politicians and policy until sane finance law can be passed.

And since he knows that both sides of the Two-Faced Corporate Party are ruthless and have never been brought to account over routine corruption and cheating and that the selection process is effectively closed to any other political parties, he needs to continue to move with great caution.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

just regurgitating what I've read about the expectations of the Dem Party Leadership. Generally, it sounds like they're willing to at least 'parrot' Bernie's campaign agenda, since they're desperate to take the House and Senate. IOW, they're hoping that he can bring back many of the folks who fled the Party this past November.

I didn't mean to imply that I thought Bernie's obligated to do anything for the Dems. If I had my way, he'd tell them to take a hike.

Hope you feeling better by now! Pleasantry

Mollie


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The DNC gang exerting power over those who merely reside closer to them than to others; join us and play by our rules, or else!

Bernie cannot join that corrupt mob - I hope!

Edit: the very thought of which gave me a letter typo, as I was running downstairs in high heels, carrying a cup of coffee - and was definitely not me being a klutz again.

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@Ellen North

what to do if I put on a shoe with a heel higher than about an inch--including dress shoes. Wink

Seriously, glad my comment only caused a typo--not a 'trip down the stairs.'

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“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)

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@detroitmechworks

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@detroitmechworks

What an amazing no-win situation!

If he doesn't join the DNC, he's a traitor, and will continue to be blamed for 2016 and possibly Russia.

If he does, and never intended to deliver his voters unto the DNC, he'll just be shooting his credibility in the head with an UZI.

If he does, and always intended to deliver his voters unto the DNC, Apparently he thinks that the flashing neon light and Club jacket will be the trick to nailing the Judas Goat routine.

"Hyman Roth Hillary Clinton played this one beautifully!" -- Tom Hagen

Wink

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@thanatokephaloides Since I'm not a big fan of the Godfather movies... (Don't think I've actually seen them unedited...)

Appropriate.

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@detroitmechworks

I actually had to look that up... Since I'm not a big fan of the Godfather movies...

Well, I must confess to being a fan of those movies. And that reference fit like a custom,-tailored glove. (In more ways than one!)

My only regret was not being able to find a clip of that sequence from The Godfather Part II. Had I succeeded there, you wouldn't have had to research it. My apologies.

Smile

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@thanatokephaloides Yeah, except obviously he will be a traitor whenever it's convenient for them anyway.

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@detroitmechworks

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AGCC is happening.
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for the Democratic Party to join the American People.

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@jim p F*ck the DNC.

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@jim p
I would publicly tell the DNC to kiss my ass.

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You are so freaking right that it hurts!

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Perez appointed Brazille to rules committee in name of increasing diversity. What complete and utter bull sheet. Spiraling ever deeper into nothingness.

Then there’s this:

And this...

Green news

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@divineorder

the laughable irony of it. the contempt it shows for us.

my jaw fell open, it really did.

Next we will give Obama a peace prize, recognize hrc for service to women.
Then we will make those traitors rich.
applaud them while they kill for money.
this is messed up.

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@irishking

Probably will miss this but would love to see Sanders wipe the floor with that @sswipe.

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

The Naked Mirror Test: if people looking like you will not be allowed to be the Presidential nominee from one party in the future, will you send money to that party?

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Strange that a harp of thousand strings should keep in tune so long

Admiral Akbar say in the first Star Wars? Something about a trap?

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the parade of Democratic candidates going, hat in hand, to Vermont. I hope the place will be 2' deep in snow, and the only lodging, double occupancy at Motel 6, and maybe the bars close at 8pm.

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Mary Bennett

Clinton and her mouth pieces have really hit on the fact that Bernie is not a democrat through the book tour and earlier. And as I and others have noted, there is a purge going on removing Bernie supporters and progressives.

The democrats are going through a self-immolation.

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@MrWebster I got an donation request from the orange website. They did not meet their money goals last month and they wanted my money. Last year the website tossed out progressives and Bernie supporters. Do they miss me or is it my money ( sorry I gave to Bernie).

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@MrWebster I've never understood the efficacy of that talking point. It's like people calling him a socialist. The only possible response is, "Yes, and?"

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Although, I guess if you call him a socialist, the real response would be to say "No, he's a social democrat. He's just an old guy, and so he still calls it `democratic socialist' like they used to."

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@MrWebster I mean, Bernie's credibility is higher than the Democratic Party's so who the fuck cares if he's a Democrat anyway?

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

The truth is I'm already deleting his emails without reading them, and no longer sending money. I gave several small (~ $10-50) donations during the campaign, but not since he endorsed Hilz and then the "unity tour" -- but I haven't left entirely. I still keep an eye on what he's doing, maybe still secretly (ok, not so secretly) hoping he will eventually split with them and take them down. But I don't expect that. I won't donate even now, because of his association with the party.

If he were to bow to this pressure, and officially join the party, I'm out. I'd unsubscribe from his list and never look back again. If the Dems think they are going to accomplish anything with this, other than deepening the rift, they're dead wrong.

At any rate, it's currently just some jackass making waves. I think the goal is to further alienate berniecrats from the party. I seriously doubt Bernie is going to give a crap about this. It's grandstanding, and I expect he will dismiss it with little fanfare.

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@CS in AZ Yeah, I agree.

There seems to be some disagreement up there whether they want to use him to be the kinder, gentler face of the Democratic party, rake up some credibility from the dying embers, or whether they want to use him as a scapegoat. They're trying to do both, and it looks remarkably stupid.

OTOH, like you said, Bernie is clearly part of their operation, and the closer he gets to them, the less cred he has.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

I mean, Bernie's credibility is higher than the Democratic Party's so who the fuck cares if he's a Democrat anyway?

The Democrats do, and for that exact reason!

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doesn't appeal to voters under 40, can't raise money, can't win elections, but their master plan is to try to shame the most popular (and cash-flush) politician in America because he doesn't want to join up?

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would be a concise response.

Sanders would be a fool to get involved with that failed state known as the DNC.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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@Bollox Ref He's already involved.
The only use I can imagine for this move is if it's a way of putting him on notice that they will rescind their old agreement w/him in VT if he doesn't join up. IOW, that they will be coming for his hide and trying to drive him out of office.

Hard to believe that, though, given that he's so useful to them.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

and flip them all the bird as he exits stage left. Wonder if he's considering that option?

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@TheOtherMaven Sorry, I don't know how this machine works...

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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I sure as shit won't vote for him. I will not pretend that those fucks didn’t lie, cheat, and defraud us. We were also told to get lost.

Funny how lack of money makes DNC hearts fonder of Bernie Bros and Bitches.

EDIT: spelled ‘didn’t’ correctly an changed ‘to’ to ‘of’.

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@Amanda Matthews I don't know why they're bothering with this nonsense. Their only real path to credibility is Trump and the race war and the horrifically unethical pro wrestling angle they're building around them. Well, OK, they won't get REAL credibility out of that, but in order to get real credibility they'd have to cease to serve the plutocrats, which means they'd have to both give up the cushy percs of serving them, and defy the CIA and others who obviously have some kind of handshake deal with the rich sociopaths, and keep politicians in line (according to no less exalted personages than Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer). That ain't happening, so real credibility ain't in the cards, and the only false credibility they're likely to be able to use is "Ain't Trump awful? He hates Black people. We don't hate Black people, we're good guys."

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
mess. All we have out there are liars, cheats, and people trying to talk us into supporting the liars and the cheats.

You know that story about the scorpion and the frog? Well, that frog is us and the scorpion is the 1%. Now, are we going to keep believing the lies of the scorpion and all those that pander, cheat, and steal for them? Or are we finally going to wise up?

Between the idiots that still support the Clinton Creature and the idiots who support Trump, I don’t hold out much hope.

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@Amanda Matthews I have been more depressed about politics since Dec 16 than I ever have before, and it's mainly because the left decided to stop opposing the establishment, and oppose Trump instead.

An easy fake war with a comparatively easy fake victory in the works, versus an incredibly hard war that's probably already lost, but which is real.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Amanda Matthews

... You know that story about the scorpion and the frog? Well, that frog is us and the scorpion is the 1%. ...

Well, considering that frogs eat insects:

https://www.quora.com/Do-frogs-have-teeth-Why-or-why-not?share=1

...Zachary Peeler
Answered Jan 13, 2016

Frogs do have very small teeth along their upper jaw and on the roof of their mouths, they use these to keep a grip on prey before swallowing them whole. Toads do not have any teeth at all.

we just need stronger teeth and to swallow them head-on, so that we can bite their stingers off on the way down.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

... "Ain't Trump awful? He hates Black people. We don't hate Black people, we're good guys."

The Dems certainly don't seem to have a problem with cops routinely shooting people for Breathing While Black or with PoC being deprived of their votes, or they'd have done something about it, back when they had what they called a 'Justice Department'.

'State's rights' have nothing to do with giving anyone an excuse for denying the right of all Americans to have their Constitutional - and human - rights upheld in every State of the Union.

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@Ellen North @Ellen North Well, and then there's this:

And this:

And this:

Here's a good takedown of that last obnoxious comment:

Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed Wednesday to continue her quest for the Democratic nomination, arguing she would be the stronger nominee because she appeals to a wider coalition of voters — including whites who have not supported Barack Obama in recent contests.

“I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

“There’s a pattern emerging here,” she said.

Indeed, a pattern has emerged some time ago. Boy, did we dodge a bullet.

“[W]orking, hard-working Americans, white Americans”. She really said that. Wow.

Congratulations, Hillary Clinton, you win the prize for the first Democratic Bigot Eruption since I’ve been keeping track of this. Even professional haters like Pat Buchanan and his ilk aren’t so balls-out about racism. You’ve been getting your ass handed to you and especially among black voters. This shows me once again that we – who are apparently lazy and shiftless non-Americans based on your definition – have yet again been a leading indicator.

There was maybe a slight chance Barack Obama might have been pushed to pick you as his running mate, but we can’t have someone spouting Klan-style talking points on the ticket. Heck, there’s a good shot with language like that you won’t win back your senate seat in 2012. I mean, a lot of those apparently lazy and shiftless non-American blacks helped you to win and they’d just as soon vote for someone else in the primary or the Republican in the election rather than someone echoing Bull Connor’s language.

“Working, hard working Americans, white Americans”, indeed.

http://oliverwillis.com/2008/05/08/hillary-white-power-clinton/

And then there's this:

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Which led to this:

Clinton aides claim Obama photo wasn't intended as a smear

Barack Obama's campaign team today accused Hillary Clinton's beleaguered staff of mounting a desperate dirty tricks operation by circulating a picture of him in African dress, feeding into false claims on US websites that he is a Muslim.

Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, described it as "the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we've seen from either party in this election". Obama has had to spend much of the campaign stressing he is a Christian not a Muslim and did not study at a madrassa.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Damn, with that first video, you made me remember how much I used to respect someone who's now producing frothing-mouthed tirades against progressives - wasn't he incredible before... what... he was thrown in the money-launderette for brainwashing?

The Clintons must be kept out of politics. Not just out of official positions, but stopped from meddling in American policy and politics to enrich themselves further even when out of public office, just as all other self-interests must be.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Ellen North Or before he was fired.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Ellen North Now, now, you're not supposed to remember that all the white Democrats except Bernie Sanders and Barbara Boxer just sat there both times as George W. Bush walked up a staircase of black disenfranchised voters to the Oval Office. Nor that Hillary herself was a U.S. Senator the second time. And just sat there. No, you have to act like she's Fannie Lou Hamer, or you're a racist.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Hell, as a Bernie/social democracy supporter, I'm already a White, sexist, male, basement-dwelling racist, in their Opposite-Day standards. Frankly, if psychopathic control-freaks approved of people like me, I'd be worried.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

DNC Chairman Tom Perez released the list of his 75 nominees to join the Democratic National Committee yesterday, and you might recognize one or two of the names on it.
...Donna Brazile is a lifetime Democrat, serving on the campaigns of numerous failed presidential candidates. She was also the interim chair of the DNC—the predecessor to Perez himself.

Hillary must be planning to "win" the nomination again. F*ck em.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

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@Timmethy2.0
Round 3 - this time’s the ‘charm’.

I hope i’m absolutely 100% WRONG. But I don’t think I am. Her worldwide whirlwind RUSSIA HAPPENED! Tour tells me me i’m probably not.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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@Amanda Matthews now so yeah, you can pretty much bet another run is the plan.

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

@Amanda Matthews
still gets herself plastered all over msm news, but I'm not sure that's an accurate reflection of the public's esteem for her. The credibility granted to "the news" is currently low... and getting lower... with much of its audience now either skeptical, or already having tuned out. Exactly how much, I don't know. But personally I'd be very surprised if Hillary were nominated. I think some sort of proxy would make for a more likely, and a more popular candidate.

Of course the Party establishment might go for Hillary anyway, for some arcane reason of its own. But it would be making a big mistake if it did, and yet another unforced error.

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@native
she’s too vain, greedy, and bitter to allow that ‘first’ fall to anyone else.

They’ve brought back and rehabbed Donna Brazille, someone caught red-handed cheating during a national election. After the news today about Abedin (Weiner’s computer, and the 3000 government that were in there that Judicial Watch now has), if they bring HER back you know the fix is in. They’ve never disbanded the gang of Clinton trash from the last election. And they are purging all those that supported Ellison over Sanders.

I’m one of those “If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, well then..” kinda people

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Amanda Matthews
Do you also suppose that Trump would be the R candidate in 2020? It would be amazing to witness a rematch between two such wildly unpopular characters. Like having the very same nightmare for two nights running.

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@native
he will run. Especially if the Clinton Creature runs. He won’t take that one quietly.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Timmethy2.0

Yup, by now I'm certain that either Her's running again or planning on being coronated, (much as was done with Bush,) as a purportedly superficially more palatable alternative to Pence. People need to understand how lawless the US government and PTB are...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

As this article at Huffpo points out, they think it is a goldmine, but it won't do the dumbasses any good.

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@peachcreek

Tell you what -- if the DNC gets that list and sends me a donation letter with an enclosed postage-paid return envelope, they'll get it back all right ... empty and glued to a brick.

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@travelerxxx
donate to the DNC. That they DON’T should tell the freaking losers something. And giving them that list would really be a BIG mistake for Ssnders. That would be the end of any credibility he has left.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Amanda Matthews

Maybe they just want to issue gag orders to all Sanders supporters, after depriving them of their voting rights? They must know by now that supporting corruption is not something that'll go over big in a 'woke' demographic.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@travelerxxx @travelerxxx

Oooooo, I like your thinking! Or, perhaps, a brick?

Edit: don't know how I read your comment as 'gluing a stone' to the empty donation return envelope... I haz skillz and a burnt-out light bulb in here.

Got 'cannot connect to server', trying again...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Yeah, Bernie and the Ds are on opposing sides. LOL yeah right. Smells like Tad Devine, PU. I heard the Brooklyn Bridge was for sale too, ha ha. Bernie is protecting his plum seat in the Senate, and talk talk talking wherever media will listen, keeping up appearances for the duopoly. Same as it ever was.

GOTV for Ds, because Rs are meanies. Same shit, different day. Sanders has his own stable of mills and bills now. Millionaires and billionaires, hey look at the new one! "That's the system." Media propaganda at its finest.

"Our Revolution" is big business, trademarked of course. Book deals and talks shows all around, money flows. Can't get any more Orwellian then that title, that's what I keep thinking. Voting only makes it worse, encouraging the politicians to continue their addictions. In and out the revolving doors of corruption, "We're capitalists." Buy one, get one free?

Go Away Bernie
Fake 2018

good luck

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

to get out of Macedonia.

At this point it doesn't matter that you and your bruhs rule the Internet and affect elections around the globe.

Get out. Get out now!

It could be worse. A B&B near you...

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

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@EdMass Do you know that Donald Trump and his minions retweeted our anti-Hillary comments during the campaign? *That's* how powerful we are here in Macedonia.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

that a certain fellow C99r did compose an essay just before you changed your tag?

Well of course you do...

https://caucus99percent.com/content/its-true-its-macedonians

Pleasantry Pleasantry

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Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!

Firesign Theater

Stop the War!

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Yes it was EdMassedonia. Yeah, I caught that. I know a fellow fifth columnist when I see one!

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Bernie Sanders Still Wants To Transform The Democratic Party (HBO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn4baWjs8JA

Published on Aug 29, 2017

As Bernie Sanders experiences renewed relevancy in the Trump era --and releases a new book, ‘The Bernie Sanders Guide to Political Revolution: A Guide for the Next Generation, VICE News reports on what it means to feel the Bern in 2017.

Youtube is blocked here so I can't test that link, hope it still works. Or maybe someone already posted it, I can't tell without some text to say what is embedded (hint hint), all I see is a blank black box. I downloaded that vid when it published, just watched the first half again. So take out the "boring" I am hooked like an addict. The Outreach theater department is kicking DNC Executive ass. Whoop whoop!

You know it is possible to have national elections without the DNC, right? They're just a bunch of C-level corporate hags at this point, can't even raise clean money anymore. Real drag on democracy. Bernie's idea is to have a more open D party, BYOB. Bring your own booty. Boo-tay! Bring it.

My problem is with the system itself, Real Bernie can never get enough votes with all these corrupt little election fiefdoms everywhere, including California and New York. Now under DHS control. Hm, what about Goldman Sachs? What about the unelected assholes currently pulling the puppet strings? They will never allow him or anyone like him enough votes to win and get some handle on Wall Street, just a few token campaigns here and there. Don't be fooled, this is not a democracy. We need a real revolution, not another fake Democrat campaign. That's my problem. I think young people "get it" too, but Bernie is leading them down the rabbit hole where politicians get rich, and that's about it. One step forward, two steps back.

good luck

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