Anti-Capitalist Meet-Up: disordering information

 

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“Fake news. Fake news. Typical New York Times. Fake stories,” Trump said of the story in brief remarks early Friday as he held meetings at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

The collective false consciousness that is inherent in US liberal democracy has many manifestations. So without casting aspersions on Arizona GOP senator Jeff Flake’s motives, his speech on the floor of the US Senate is useful if only to understand the opportunism of a politician who allied himself at one moment with the RWNJs of the Teabagger party(sic).

 

His discourse is instructive for those willing to understand the resiliency of neoliberal capitalism in the face of internal authoritarian challenges even at the highest levels of government.


  • Mr. President, near the beginning of the document that made us free, our Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson wrote: "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." So, from our very beginnings, our freedom has been predicated on truth. The founders were visionary in this regard, understanding well that good faith and shared facts between the governed and the government would be the very basis of this ongoing idea of America.

Invoking the denotative, dictionary definition of Liberal Democracy especially the Jeffersonian version is problematic, even as the US is under the sway of a particularly ironic version of Hamiltonian democracy.

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According to CNN, Trump has used the word "fake" more than 400 times since his inauguration, including "fake news" and its variants. Overall, use of the phrase "fake news" across all forms of media increased 365 percent from November 2016 to November 2017, according to the Collins Dictionary, which named "fake news" its 2017 word of the year.
At PolitiFact, we have used the term "fake news" to refer to fabricated content masquerading as a portrayal of actual events, naming it our 2016 Lie of the Year after made-up stories dominated social media during the presidential election.
Trump, however, uses "fake news" to dismiss coverage that is unsympathetic to him and his administration, or as a criticism against entire news organizations. He’s also taken credit for rebranding the term "fake news" to apply to fact-based journalism, calling it "one of the greatest of all terms I've come up with." www.politifact.com/...

 

  • As the distinguished former member of this body, Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, famously said: "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts." During the past year, I am alarmed to say that Senator Moynihan's proposition has likely been tested more severely than at any time in our history.

Moynihan also signifies a period of liberalism that endorsed civil rights even if it institutionalized some deleterious forms of social theories regarding the formation of the families of racial minorities.

  • It is for that reason that I rise today, to talk about the truth, and its relationship to democracy. For without truth, and a principled fidelity to truth and to shared facts, Mr. President, our democracy will not last.

Are not shared facts also true, because are not matters in culture always negotiated, as they are in the social construction of knowledge.

  • 2017 was a year which saw the truth -- objective, empirical, evidence-based truth -- more battered and abused than any other in the history of our country, at the hands of the most powerful figure in our government. It was a year which saw the White House enshrine "alternative facts" into the American lexicon, as justification for what used to be known simply as good old-fashioned falsehoods. It was the year in which an unrelenting daily assault on the constitutionally-protected free press was launched by that same White House, an assault that is as unprecedented as it is unwarranted. "The enemy of the people," was what the president of the United States called the free press in 2017.

Ibsen aside, we know that Agent Orange, nose of Alf, is the product of pre-adolecent rage and rhetoric, so the Bannon-Miller lexicon and its fascist invocation of Lügenpresse is operative here.

  • Mr. President, it is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously spoken by Josef Stalin to describe his enemies. It bears noting that so fraught with malice was the phrase "enemy of the people," that even Nikita Khrushchev forbade its use, telling the Soviet Communist Party that the phrase had been introduced by Stalin for the purpose of "annihilating such individuals" who disagreed with the supreme leader.

Rehabilitating Nikita Khrushchev might not be be wisest choice of example here, considering his own involvement in purges

  • This alone should be a source of great shame for us in this body, especially for those of us in the president's party. For they are shameful, repulsive statements. And, of course, the president has it precisely backward -- despotism is the enemy of the people. The free press is the despot's enemy, which makes the free press the guardian of democracy. When a figure in power reflexively calls any press that doesn't suit him "fake news," it is that person who should be the figure of suspicion, not the press.

How deliberate is Flake’s ignoring the entire history of disinformation, and not simply a major practitioner like the Soviets.

  • I dare say that anyone who has the privilege and awesome responsibility to serve in this chamber knows that these reflexive slurs of "fake news" are dubious, at best. Those of us who travel overseas, especially to war zones and other troubled areas around the globe, encounter members of U.S. based media who risk their lives, and sometimes lose their lives, reporting on the truth. To dismiss their work as fake news is an affront to their commitment and their sacrifice.

Effrontery and the claim of demonizing media places media workers at risk.

  • According to the International Federation of Journalists, 80 journalists were killed in 2017, and a new report from the Committee to Protect Journalists documents that the number of journalists imprisoned around the world has reached 262, which is a new record. This total includes 21 reporters who are being held on "false news" charges.

Evidence for the claim.

  • Mr. President, so powerful is the presidency that the damage done by the sustained attack on the truth will not be confined to the president's time in office. Here in America, we do not pay obeisance to the powerful -- in fact, we question the powerful most ardently -- to do so is our birthright and a requirement of our citizenship -- and so, we know well that no matter how powerful, no president will ever have dominion over objective reality.

First Amendment protections.

  • No politician will ever get to tell us what the truth is and is not. And anyone who presumes to try to attack or manipulate the truth to his own purposes should be made to realize the mistake and be held to account. That is our job here. And that is just as Madison, Hamilton, and Jay would have it.

Constitutional basis.

  • Of course, a major difference between politicians and the free press is that the press usually corrects itself when it gets something wrong. Politicians don't.

The self-governing nature of the public sphere in political communication (Habermas).

  • No longer can we compound attacks on truth with our silent acquiescence. No longer can we turn a blind eye or a deaf ear to these assaults on our institutions. And Mr. President, an American president who cannot take criticism -- who must constantly deflect and distort and distract -- who must find someone else to blame -- is charting a very dangerous path. And a Congress that fails to act as a check on the president adds to the danger.

Checks and balances with the implication that lawfare might result.

  • Now, we are told via twitter that today the president intends to announce his choice for the "most corrupt and dishonest" media awards. It beggars belief that an American president would engage in such a spectacle. But here we are.

The primary focus was on the stunt using the GOP website to nominate the most noteworthy examples, even if they are simply matters of simple editorial error or op-ed opinion.

  • And so, 2018 must be the year in which the truth takes a stand against power that would weaken it. In this effort, the choice is quite simple. And in this effort, the truth needs as many allies as possible. Together, my colleagues, we are powerful. Together, we have it within us to turn back these attacks, right these wrongs, repair this damage, restore reverence for our institutions, and prevent further moral vandalism.

Appeal to collective action.

  • Together, united in the purpose to do our jobs under the Constitution, without regard to party or party loyalty, let us resolve to be allies of the truth -- and not partners in its destruction.

It’s not our fault, rejecting complicity even if it’s clear that when the GOP publishes it on its website, it has made its bed.

  • It is not my purpose here to inventory all of the official untruths of the past year. But a brief survey is in order. Some untruths are trivial -- such as the bizarre contention regarding the crowd size at last year's inaugural.

More supporting examples, even if they actually didn’t make the final cut.

  • But many untruths are not at all trivial -- such as the seminal untruth of the president's political career - the oft-repeated conspiracy about the birthplace of President Obama. Also not trivial are the equally pernicious fantasies about rigged elections and massive voter fraud, which are as destructive as they are inaccurate -- to the effort to undermine confidence in the federal courts, federal law enforcement, the intelligence community and the free press, to perhaps the most vexing untruth of all -- the supposed "hoax" at the heart of special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.

Number 11 on the master list is the continuing ‘vexing untruth’ promoted by Agent Orange: the #TrumpRussia hoax.

  • To be very clear, to call the Russia matter a "hoax" -- as the president has many times -- is a falsehood. We know that the attacks orchestrated by the Russian government during the election were real and constitute a grave threat to both American sovereignty and to our national security. It is in the interest of every American to get to the bottom of this matter, wherever the investigation leads.

Why would Lord Dampnut lie?

  • Ignoring or denying the truth about hostile Russian intentions toward the United States leaves us vulnerable to further attacks. We are told by our intelligence agencies that those attacks are ongoing, yet it has recently been reported that there has not been a single cabinet-level meeting regarding Russian interference and how to defend America against these attacks. Not one. What might seem like a casual and routine untruth -- so casual and routine that it has by now become the white noise of Washington - is in fact a serious lapse in the defense of our country.

How could there be, considering that at least two co-conspirators including one money-launderer actually sit on the cabinet.

  • Mr. President, let us be clear. The impulses underlying the dissemination of such untruths are not benign. They have the effect of eroding trust in our vital institutions and conditioning the public to no longer trust them. The destructive effect of this kind of behavior on our democracy cannot be overstated.

Grounds for impeachment … maybe.

  • Mr. President, every word that a president utters projects American values around the world. The values of free expression and a reverence for the free press have been our global hallmark, for it is our ability to freely air the truth that keeps our government honest and keeps a people free. Between the mighty and the modest, truth is the great leveler. And so, respect for freedom of the press has always been one of our most important exports.

And still disinformation is not seen as fungible and ubiquitous.

  • But a recent report published in our free press should raise an alarm. Reading from the story: "In February…Syrian President Bashar Assad brushed off an Amnesty International report that some 13,000 people had been killed at one of his military prisons by saying, "You can forge anything these days, we are living in a fake news era."

*Uh-oh, why has Agent Orange been grabbed by the genitals in not condemning this.

  • In the Philippines, President Rodrigo Duterte has complained of being "demonized" by "fake news." Last month, the report continues, with our President, quote "laughing by his side" Duterte called reporters "spies.

*Uh-oh, why has Agent Orange been grabbed by the genitals in not condemning this.

  • In July, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro complained to the Russian propaganda outlet, that the world media had "spread lots of false versions, lots of lies" about his country, adding, "This is what we call 'fake news' today, isn't it?"

*Uh-oh, why has Agent Orange been grabbed by the genitals in not condemning this.

  • There are more:

  • "A state official in Myanmar recently said, "There is no such thing as Rohingya. It is fake news," referring to the persecuted ethnic group.

*Uh-oh, why has Agent Orange been grabbed by the genitals in not condemning this.

  • Leaders in Singapore, a country known for restricting free speech, have promised "fake news" legislation in the new year."

*Uh-oh, why has Agent Orange been grabbed by the genitals in not condemning this.

  • And on and on. This feedback loop is disgraceful, Mr. President. Not only has the past year seen an American president borrow despotic language to refer to the free press, but it seems he has in turn inspired dictators and authoritarians with his own language. This is reprehensible.

And yet the GOP has said nary a peep.

  • We are not in a "fake news" era, as Bashar Assad says. We are, rather, in an era in which the authoritarian impulse is reasserting itself, to challenge free people and free societies, everywhere.

The more important thing to understand is that the authoritarian impulse is ever constant, even as Lord Dampnut has decided to buy into a GOP preference to raise all indices of misery or heighten contradictions by destroying the social benefits system.

  • In our own country, from the trivial to the truly dangerous, it is the range and regularity of the untruths we see that should be cause for profound alarm, and spur to action. Add to that the by-now predictable habit of calling true things false, and false things true, and we have a recipe for disaster. As George Orwell warned, "The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."

Remember who Orwell really was speaking about (totalitarianisms), while also recognizing liberal democracy’s own capability to lie.

  • Any of us who have spent time in public life have endured news coverage we felt was jaded or unfair. But in our positions, to employ even idle threats to use laws or regulations to stifle criticism is corrosive to our democratic institutions. Simply put: it is the press's obligation to uncover the truth about power. It is the people's right to criticize their government. And it is our job to take it.

Truth to power, as we’ve seen two weekends ago with the ‘porn star’ revelations, is about issues of race/gender/class, and that bio-power over-determines most matters attempting to make power less inequitable.

  • What is the goal of laying siege to the truth? President John F. Kennedy, in a stirring speech on the 20th anniversary of the Voice of America, was eloquent in answer to that question: "We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."

The irony of using the USA’s own propaganda arm’s anniversary signifies how oligopolized the market for truth always is. More importantly it is clearer how oligarchs like the Kochs, the Mercers, have joined their Russian brethren.

  • Mr. President, the question of why the truth is now under such assault may well be for historians to determine. But for those who cherish American constitutional democracy, what matters is the effect on America and her people and her standing in an increasingly unstable world -- made all the more unstable by these very fabrications. What matters is the daily disassembling of our democratic institutions.

The status quo of ruling class hegemony is being threatened because destabilizing neoliberal institutions can destabilize capitalism itself.

  • We are a mature democracy -- it is well past time that we stop excusing or ignoring -- or worse, endorsing -- these attacks on the truth. For if we compromise the truth for the sake of our politics, we are lost.

Needless to say, Jeff Flake voted for the tax bill that granted excessive gains and looted the US treasury to transfer wealth to the ruling classes, so even the truth of that inequality should be obvious to even the most self-righteous of legislators.

  • I sincerely thank my colleagues for their indulgence today. I will close by borrowing the words of an early adherent to my faith that I find has special resonance at this moment. His name was John Jacques, and as a young missionary in England he contemplated the question: "What is truth?" His search was expressed in poetry and ultimately in a hymn that I grew up with, titled "Oh Say, What is Truth." It ends as follows:

"Then say, what is truth? 'Tis the last and the first,

For the limits of time it steps o'er.

Tho the heavens depart and the earth's fountains burst.

Truth, the sum of existence, will weather the worst,

Eternal ... unchanged ... evermore."

It is of course, in a pseudo-theocracy, de rigeur to make some reference to personal ideological allegiances, in this case one that only 40 years ago discovered doctrine that would allow PoC to become elders in its society.

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For those with technical allergies to the meta-discourse of political theory I put below the fold a reference to one of many discussions necessary to study the implied discourse of even the most mundane of rhetorical texts like Senate floor speeches.


It’s important to remember that a critique of capitalism in inherently problematic because as a mode of production an anti-capitalism “actively criticises the very language needed to explain it.”. The concepts of prosthesis, spectralization, and virtuality will subsequently the terrain for discourse as capital transforms the material conditions of its reproduction.

The apparent homology between Derrida and Jameson is ruptured by the latter’s insistence upon the “allegorical” configuration of class solidarities, and the former’s commitment to the de-affiliating questions (of hospitality) that arise from global organization of capitalism.

So why return to the concept of class? Why revisit what seems to be the point of absolute differentiation between Marxism and deconstruction?

My purpose in restaging this polemic is to examine a particular set of generic protocols which have, to a very significant degree, established the terms of legitimate affiliation to Marx’s thought and politics.

Put very schematically these protocols are:

  • the ultimate recuperability of class struggle within the global-technological transformations of capitalism;
  • the redetermination of proletarian solidarity through the strategic interventions of Marxist theory;
  • the invocation of history as both the loss and the recovery of the revolutionary dialectics of class;
  • and the referral of political agency to the structural antagonisms which determine power relationships within the mode of production.

Thus the deficiencies of deconstruction, conceived as a particularly sophisticated form of postmodernist theory, are easily determined. For in so far as Derrida neglects the logics of historical necessity which are played out through the material effects of class struggle, he is left with no basis from which to launch a socially transformative politics.

Indeed, it is claimed that his desire to give priority to the ethical demand of “the other” and to avoid what he takes to be the totalizing/totalitarian ontology of Marxism, leads him into a fatal complicity with liberal capitalist ideology. The purpose of my paper is to dispute these claims.

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What is important here is that the cultural turn of Jameson’s Marxism entails a certain independence of the ideational sphere of capitalism—an independence whose limits are constantly reproduced in the depthless, technologically reproducible culture which has pervaded the lifeworld of postmodern societies. Derrida’s account of the spectralizing powers of capitalism therefore discloses the infinite horizon of deferral which is the trademark of postmodern capitalism: for in so far as the class dynamics of the present are always already dispersed through the virtualizing effects of image technologies, the possibility of political transformation demands a permanent critique of the forms of false individualism through which the global totality of capital is sustained (Jameson in Sprinker 1999, p. 36).

[...]

The conclusion of my paper therefore will examine the radical possibility of inheritance which Derrida introduces in Spectres of Marx: the possibility of a Marxist politics in which class struggle and class solidarity are configured (and re-configured) through the originary demand of hospitality.

www3.amherst.edu/...

The next installment will be to review the above paper by Ross Abbinnett since much of the problems of contemporary politics are those of affliation. Needless to say the ‘false individualism’ cited above is exactly how Trumpist anti-immigration discourse has produced a mass false consciousness, one where RWNJs feel empowered to challenge any and every PoC’s right to be in this country in every encounter in everyday life. The ultimate irony is how a failed realtor/hotelier became POTUS* and made hospitality so parodic as to imply that every hotel bedroom in Moscow could be bugged.

 

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The non stop spewing of Russia Russia Russia and Russia interfered with the election and hacked everything not nailed down? Or hacked other country's elections and the Brexit vote and the millions of Russian bots. This type of fake news?

Number 11 on the master list is the continuing ‘vexing untruth’ promoted by Agent Orange: the #TrumpRussia hoax.

To be very clear, to call the Russia matter a "hoax" -- as the president has many times -- is a falsehood. We know that the attacks orchestrated by the Russian government during the election were real and constitute a grave threat to both American sovereignty and to our national security. It is in the interest of every American to get to the bottom of this matter, wherever the investigation leads.
Why would Lord Dampnut lie?

War on Dissent

This even holds true for the Russia paranoia the ruling classes are pumping out currently … it’s all just part of the “reality adjustment,” and the launch of a new official narrative, not a prelude to war with Russia. The USA is not going to war with Russia. The notion is beyond ridiculous. Have you noticed, despite all their warlike verbiage, that no one has put forth a single scenario in which war between Russia and the West makes sense? That’s because it doesn’t make sense. Not for Russia, the USA, or anyone else. This is why “the Russian threat” is being marketed as an “attack on democratic values” and “an attempt to sow division,” and so on. Because the war the corporatocracy is waging is not a war against Russia, the nation. The war they are fighting is a counter-insurgency, an ideological counter-insurgency. “Russia” has just been added to the list of “terrorists” and “extremists” who “hate us for our freedom.”

This type of *Fake News*??

The New McCarthyism

I can find more articles on how the Russia Russia Russia has been debunked if it's necessary.

Scratch one-s head

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@snoopydawg

Thanks, great post! Trying to recall who it was that posted a video where an interviewer roasted and lunched off of the writer of a RUSSIA!!!-did-it!!! propaganda book claiming, among other things, that the use of smiley faces in emails indicated some sort of a damning Russian cultural influence.

From your The New McCarthyism link (emphasis mine):

... The credentials of this supposed group of experts are impossible to verify, as none is provided either by the Post or by the group itself. The Intercept contacted PropOrNot and asked numerous questions about its team, but received only this reply: “We’re getting a lot of requests for comment and can get back to you today Smile [smiley face emoticon].” The group added: “We’re over 30 people, organized into teams, and we cannot confirm or deny anyone’s involvement.”

Thus far, they have provided no additional information beyond that. As Fortune’s Matthew Ingram wrote in criticizing the Post article, PropOrNot’s Twitter account “has only existed since August of this year. And an article announcing the launch of the group on its website is dated last month.” WHOIS information for the domain name is not available, as the website uses private registration.

More troubling still, PropOrNot listed numerous organizations on its website as “allied” with it, yet many of these claimed “allies” told The Intercept, and complained on social media, they have nothing to do with the group and had never even heard of it before the Post published its story. ...

Between this 'tell' of the RUSSIAN!!!use of smilies and the 600? million of public money given to the owner of the Washington Post by the CIA, it's easy to see that Prop OrNot, Bezos/Washpo and the CIA are all RUSSIAN!!! propagandists going by the criteria used by those actively supporting the RUSSIA!!! frenzy and should all be investigated. Maybe with cavity searches to finally see where they're pulling this stuff from.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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say - considering that the disinformation program is now complete - as a member of the American public I believe that everything Casey said is false.

Did Casey really say what is said in the first image? Where is the proof? Any pupil can slap that image together.

Just saying, because I am tired. No offense. Good Night.

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@mimi
There is no proof to the quote.
Although if fits him and ties nicely into current events, it's just as likely it never happened as quoted.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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@Pricknick

which makes me believe its authenticity. Also, it makes sense to me that someone as heartless and arrogant could have said that.

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Barbara Honegger, studied at Stanford University
Answered Nov 26, 2014

I am the source for this quote, which was indeed said by CIA Director William Casey at an early February 1981 meeting of the newly elected President Reagan with his new cabinet secretaries to report to him on what they had learned about their agencies in the first couple of weeks of the administration. 
The meeting was in the Roosevelt Room in the West Wing of the White House, not far from the Cabinet Room.  I was present at the meeting as Assistant to the chief domestic policy adviser to the President.  Casey       first told Reagan that he had been astonished to discover that over               80 percent of the 'intelligence' that the analysis side of the CIA produced was based on open public sources like newspapers and magazines. 
As he did to all the other secretaries of their departments and agencies, Reagan asked what he saw as his goal as director for the CIA, to which
he replied with this quote, which I recorded in my notes of the meeting
as he said it.  Shortly thereafter I told Senior White House correspondent Sarah McClendon, who was a close friend and colleague, who in turn made it public.  Barbara Honegger  bshonegg@gmail.com

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@janis b
Doesn't mean it happened.
I was told long ago not to believe what a horse told me unless I had verification from someone in the same room at the same time.
Hearsay at best.
Believable with exception.

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@Pricknick

[video:https://youtu.be/LND1PypBnrU]

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@janis b
told me?
Problem was, the other in the room was also a horse.

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@janis b @janis b @mimi This is from the transcript of the BBC documentary The Power of Nightmare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares

The documentary:

The film compares the rise of the neoconservative movement in the United States and the radical Islamist movement, drawing comparisons between their origins, and remarking on similarities between the two groups. More controversially, it argues that radical Islamism as a massive, sinister organisation, specifically in the form of al-Qaeda, is a myth, or noble lie, perpetuated by leaders of many countries—and particularly neoconservatives in the U.S.—in a renewed attempt to unite and inspire their people after the ultimate failure of utopian ideas.

Just amazing. The same tactics used against the Soviet Union are now being used against Putin/Russia.

VO: To persuade the President, the neoconservatives set out to prove that the Soviet
threat was far greater than anyone, even Team B, had previously shown. They would demonstrate that the majority of terrorism and revolutionary movements around the world were actually part of a secret network, coordinated by Moscow, to take over the world. The main proponent of this theory was a leading neoconservative who was the special adviser to the Secretary of State. His name was Michael Ledeen, and he had been influenced by a best-selling book called The Terror Network. It alleged that terrorism was not the fragmented phenomenon that it appeared to be. In reality, all terrorist groups, from the PLO to the Baader-Meinhof group in Germany, and the Provisional IRA, all of them were a part of a coordinated strategy of terror run by the Soviet Union. But the CIA completely disagreed. They said this was just another neoconservative fantasy.

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VO: But the neoconservatives had a powerful ally. He was William Casey, and he was the new head of the CIA. Casey was sympathetic to the neoconservative view. And when he read the Terror Network book, he was convinced. He called a meeting of the CIA’s Soviet analysts at their headquarters, and told them to produce a report for the President that proved this hidden network existed. But the analysts told him that this would be impossible, because much of the information in the book came from black propaganda the CIA themselves had invented to smear the Soviet Union. They knew that the terror network didn’t exist, because they themselves had made it up

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MELVIN GOODMAN , Head of Soviet Affairs CIA, 1976-87: And when we looked through the book, we found very clear episodes where CIA black propaganda—clandestine information that was designed under a covert action plan to be planted in European newspapers—were picked up and put in this book. A lot of it was made up. It was made up out of whole cloth.

INTERVIEWER (off-camera): You told him this?

GOODMAN : We told him that, point blank. And we even had the operations people to tell Bill Casey this. I thought maybe this might have an impact, but all of us were dismissed. Casey had made up his mind. He knew the Soviets were involved in terrorism, so there was nothing we could tell him to disabuse him. Lies became reality.

VO: In the end, Casey found a university professor who described himself as a terror expert, and he produced a dossier that confirmed that the hidden terror network did, in fact, exist

EDIT: link to transcript:

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/linkscopy/PowerOfNM.pdf

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@MrWebster

I watched that episode of the BBC production, The Power of Nightmares. It was an excellent introduction to the nascent development of neoconservatism, and radical islam. I will continue to watch the series.

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@janis b It came out at a time when there was to be no questions asked. And we see a repeat it seems in many ways of having to create some threat in order to govern people.

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@MrWebster

it's that fear that needs to be transformed, or at least understood by more.

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The trick is in planting a seed of truth that everybody knows.

I'm working on some new verses to this song. They are not too bad as is but I think it has more potential. I would appreciate any help any of you can offer.

Everybody knows
(my favorite version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybuCmgyQE6o (4 mins by the duhks)

Here's the original Leonard Cohen Lyrics
"Everybody Knows"

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that you love me baby
Everybody knows that you really do
Everybody knows that you've been faithful
Ah give or take a night or two
Everybody knows you've been discreet
But there were so many people you just had to meet
Without your clothes
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

And everybody knows that it's now or never
Everybody knows that it's me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you've done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows

And everybody knows that the Plague is coming
Everybody knows that it's moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there's gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows

And everybody knows that you're in trouble
Everybody knows what you've been through
From the bloody cross on top of Calvary
To the beach of Malibu
Everybody knows it's coming apart
Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows

Everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Oh everybody knows, everybody knows
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Meteor Man's picture

@Lookout @Lookout
Just dropping this here cause I couldn't embed the video.

How insanely easy it is to hack voting machines:

https://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2018/01/are-voting-machine-secure.html?m=0

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"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn

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who suddenly dropped dead before testifying about Iran-Contra?

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Wink's picture

Edgar Casey.
@Bollox Ref

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the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.

Today is one of those days I can't get past the embedded hypocrisy of GOOG links inside of an anti-capitalist essay. Perhaps it is a new disorder, soon to be listed in the DSM so psychiatrists can attempt to medicate it away... conscious consumption disorder or similar. LOL I don't know, it's hard to participate when I feel awful using their stuff, giving them profits.

I guess it is 'cause I was born in San Francisco near ground zero, where google/tube, facebook, and twitter made billionaires from a bunch of asshole capitalists. Immigrants. lol no kidding those are the ones we should have kept away that's what I say. They had no problem buying politicians and creating homeless. Their creations are inhumane in my view, and their "ad-sponsored Internets" are a toilet full of turds I'm unwilling to fish around in to find the good shit anymore. This is how it looks to me most days, blocked:
youtubebox.jpg
and I don't go searching the google, ever. It took a year for them to finally "forget" my domain account and all the tentacles therein. I don't believe the data is gone despite my multiple deletions, it is hidden beyond my reach now that is all. ~shrug~

GOOG ate academics with lots of "free beer", now we have little "free speech", that's how I see it. meh

For an international coalition to fight Internet censorship

An open letter from the International Editorial Board of the World Socialist Web Site to socialist, anti-war, left-wing and progressive websites, organizations and activists

Go forth and read.

peace

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sounds like a medical term to describe the media, kinda fits

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