ABOLISH NATO NOW!

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Some in the media are reporting that Trump handed Merkel a "bill" for 300 billion for U.S./NATO war and imperialism spending. The White House is saying that is not true but it doesn't matter, the narrative is out there and the people are swallowing it.

"In 2014, NATO countries pledge to spend 2 percent of their gross domestic product on defense. The Independent reported that Trump told aides to calculate how much German spending fell below that 2 percent mark in the past 12 years -- backdating the invoice to when Merkel's predecessor was in charge -- then add interest.

In a joint press conference with Merkel during her visit, Trump told reporters that he emphasized the United States' commitment to NATO and the need for allies to increase defense spending.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-handed-%c2%a3300b-nato-invoice...

This issue is a good example of how people will take a false narrative and instead of questioning it's general basis, they will focus on the details of that false narrative.

For example, with this NATO spending issue regarding Germany, most people won't question the actual need for NATO and the premise that the U.S. is "protecting" other NATO countries from common "enemies". They will simply absorb the enemy part and won't focus on the fact that the United States government is the biggest purveyor of terror and violence on the planet and thus it's biggest threat. They will wonder how much Germany is contributing to NATO and how much it is spending on it's own "defense". They will wonder why the U.S. is footing the bill to protect Germany.

If you look at the media's response you'll find a bunch of articles asking "how much does Germany contribute to NATO", "how much does Germany owe NATO", "does Germany owe vast sums for NATO defense", "why should the US contribute 73% of NATO funding?", etc. The corporate media will steer the debate into the false narrative to keep the people focused on that instead of the real questions.

If I was a German I'd be mighty pissed at this narrative. The U.S. has occupied Germany since WWII, suffocating that country with as many as 225 U.S. military bases and installations at the peak (down to less than 100 now). The narrative that the U.S. and it's NATO construct are protecting Germany is nonsense and offensive.

If I was an American, which I am, I'd be mighty pissed too. The notion that U.S. imperialism, the sick power game of the rich and powerful, is actually the United States serving as the "global policeman" is delusional. War is a Racket and so is imperialism and to continue to allow our so called leaders to complain about how much money our country and other countries spend on defense facilitating imperialism is foolish, immoral and criminal. NATO has always been a U.S. tool to wage wars and conduct it's imperialism.

This is another example of how Donald Trump speaks with forked tongue, like the white men of old (and new) dealing with Native Americans. He will say whatever he thinks he needs to say to con as many people as possible. He has said he wants rapprochement with Russia but NATO is and has been all along an offensive tool against Russia. He has himself said NATO is obsolete and yet now he wants to greatly increase it's funding. It makes no sense, is contradictory and shows he's lying his ass off.

Of course, this is all helped along greatly by the Democratic party and it's partisans who have taken the lead in demonizing the enemy, Russia and Putin, to pave the way for more war and more imperialism, and more NATO. The Democratic War and Imperialism Party, the great defender of NATO. But hey, they're going to save Social Security and Medicare baby! That hypocritical tradeoff has become laughable.

The message people should be hearing in all this is the urgent need to abolish NATO and stop U.S. and NATO imperialism.

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Big Al's picture

I can. This three ring circus is taking it's toll. People are so ripe for revolution it's ridiculous, all we need is a spark.
Abolish NATO, abolish the CIA, the NSA and the Federal Reserve. Absolutely has to be done.

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@Big Al NATO is something that anyone with a basic understanding of history should question why we need it to this day.

I mean the stated rationale behind NATO was the protection against the scary communists of the USSR. Well... the USSR has been dead for a few decades now. What purpose is it serving now? No one can really give a good solid answer to that one. Now all this Russia fear mongering stokes the paranoid flames of America, like clockwork.

People have been ripe for a change, a revolution for a long time. That spark...perhaps I'm more cynical but out of any nation on this planet that will have its people rise up and do something, America is the last place for it. The power is so entrenched, the people so docile and easy to manipulate and brainwash, so easy to turn upon one another, that is what is ridiculous. When the country finally does succumb from its hollowed center, the rich will fly away, leaving the masses behind to fight amongst themselves instead of realizing what actually happened.

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CB's picture

Hastings Lionel "Pug" Ismay - first Secretary General of NATO from 1952 to 1957:

(on purpose of NATO): "To keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down."

(on expansion of NATO): "I am convinced that the present solution is only a partial one, aimed at guarding the heart. It must grow until the whole free world gets under one umbrella."

Published on Dec 2, 2016

In this week’s edition of Newsbud Roundtable, Sibel Edmonds and Spiro Skouras are joined by Newsbud Analyst Christoph Germann and Newsbud Senior Analyst Professor Filip Kovacevic. We discuss the recent developments in Germany and throughout Europe leading up to the German elections. We analyze the significance of Germany’s role as a US/NATO ally and the potential ramifications of Merkel losing her position as German Chancellor. All this and much more; do not miss this in-depth exclusive presentation.

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Big Al's picture

@CB but it is still serving its original hidden purpose, to prevent a breakout alliance between Russia and Europe and keep Russia from challenging global and Eurasian hegemony. I'm sure Trump was made aware of the importance of NATO in "making America great again".

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snoopydawg's picture

US bases in their countries continue tolerate them? Don't those countries have to pay for them or at least contribute to them?
There's no way that this country would tolerate another country having a base here so why after over a half century do those countries?
I know that Japan tried to kick them out and not allow them to build a new base but they lost.
Hopefully someone can explain this to me.

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Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?

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@snoopydawg I had a lot of german friends and most were strongly against the U.S. still being there, but like we Americans, struggle to challenge their oligarchy. Like here, many are supportive or apathetic and they're faced with the same kind of corporate and state propaganda machine along with a police state.
I haven't followed it recently but I'm sure there are revolutionaries and radicals talking on blogs right now in those countries trying to figure out a way.

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@snoopydawg
stationed there in the '70s I didn't pay all that attention to the host (German) population, more interested in their beer than their politics, culture. Most Germans tended to ignore us as we ignored them. But, one didn't have to be there long before it was obvious they didn't need us there, so, the question often asked was, "what are we still doing here?" None of us minded the European Vacation, becuz the alternative was 'nam. But, both countries were paying a Lot of money for our vacations! I belatedly thank the taxpayers!

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@snoopydawg
are still occupied countries and vassal states due to close ties with US political, military, corporate, financial and media elites. The US had funneled hundreds of millions of dollars from the Marshall Plan into the ruling elite and these connections remain to this very day.

There are two entities that continue to cement these relationships in Europe:

“The True Story of the Bilderberg Group” and What They May Be Planning Now
For over 14 years, Daniel Estulin has investigated and researched the Bilderberg Group’s far-reaching influence on business and finance, global politics, war and peace, and control of the world’s resources and its money.

His book, “The True Story of the Bilderberg Group,” was published in 2005 and is now updated in a new 2009 edition. He states that in 1954, “the most powerful men in the world met for the first time” in Oosterbeek, Netherlands, “debated the future of the world,” and decided to meet annually in secret. They called themselves the Bilderberg Group with a membership representing a who’s who of world power elites, mostly from America, Canada, and Western Europe with familiar names like David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Gordon Brown, Angela Merkel, Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, Larry Summers, Tim Geithner, Lloyd Blankfein, George Soros, Donald Rumsfeld, Rupert Murdoch, other heads of state, influential senators, congressmen and parliamentarians, Pentagon and NATO brass, members of European royalty, selected media figures, and invited others – some quietly by some accounts like Barack Obama and many of his top officials.

Always well represented are top figures from the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), IMF, World Bank, Trilateral Commission, EU, and powerful central bankers from the Federal Reserve, the ECB’s Jean-Claude Trichet, and Bank of England’s Mervyn King.


The German Marshall Fund, a Fund for Secret Action Specialists?

Conceived during the Cold War by Willy Brandt to tie Europe and the United States, the German Marshall Fund was a breeding ground for journalists, university students and politicians committed to Atlantism. Although the Fund lost its ideological nature with the collapse of the USSR, it still draws the attention of the US secret service that is widely represented in its administration council.

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@snoopydawg thanks you made me look up Okinawa, remembering U.S. soldier unable to control insanity training turned criminal, and the people protesting the presence, but it is the law that requires "mutual cooperation".

Under the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security of 1960, the United States is responsible for military security in the Pacific. Under those circumstances, the U.S. is unlikely to start closing bases on Okinawa, regardless of opposition.

http://peopleof.oureverydaylife.com/military-bases-okinawa-10419.html
"multiple issues" on the wiki:

The Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan (...), also known in Japan as Anpo jōyaku (...) or just Anpo (...) for short, was first signed in 1952 at the San Francisco Presidio following the signing of the Treaty of San Francisco (commonly known as the Peace Treaty of San Francisco) at the San Francisco War Memorial Opera House.[dubious – discuss] Then, the Security Treaty was later amended further on January 1960 between the US and Japan in Washington.

The treaty has lasted longer than any other alliance between two great powers since the 1648 Peace of Westphalia. The treaty had a minimum term of 10 years. However, it provided that it would remain in force permanently unless one party gives one year's notice that it wishes to terminate it.

There were more widescale protests in Japan when the pact was renewed in 1970, but they died down thereafter.

Further, there was a shift in Japanese domestic politics. Nobusuke Kishi had to resign his post as the prime minister, succumbing to widespread demonstrations against the treaty and further the US. Kishi was succeeded by Hayato Ikeda, known for his election pledge of income doubling plan by the end of a decade, preferably emphasized on economy than on domestic politics divisions.

Like there's a difference? Anyway, it's Abe now, he is the new tool I guess.

Abe also sought to revise or broaden the interpretation of Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution in order to permit Japan to maintain de jure military forces. He had stated that "we are reaching the limit in narrowing down differences between Japan's security and the interpretation of our constitution". During his first period as prime minister he upgraded the Japan Defense Agency to full ministry status. Like his predecessors, he supported the Japanese alliance with the United States.

Peace & Love

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As long as some guy doesn't get shot in Sarajevo.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

It s subsidiary of the MIC. Someone has to purchase all those arms.

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