07/17 is the World Day for International Justice
~~ Justice
Today has somehow come to be named World Day for International Justice. Isn't that just too cute for words.
I suppose we must start with Hammurabi's code and then plow through all of Plato, etc.We could spend years, even decades trying to ferret out the meaning of justice and not really get any closer than we are right now. Then, assuming we get a handle on it, what is International Justice? What obligations does it impose on all the imperialists, colonists, colonial powers, conquerers and all that for past wrongdoing?
And what about the future. The inhabitants of the US know that for the wealthy and or well connected justice is so heavily tempered with mercy that it hardly bears the name of justice at all, while, for the hoi polloi, it is maximally punitive. But, that is for individuals, not nations or peoples. In that arena, we must ever look foreward and not backward, forgiving ourselves all of our transgressions and dedicating ourselves to the constant ongoing spread of "democracy" TM and "American Values" TM. That ought to pretty much cover it.
Personally, I long ago gave up on any and all kinds of Justice, but will indulge in a little Bill Justis
On this day in history:
1203 -- The Fourth Crusade captured Constantinople by assault and sacked and looted it
1665 -- Portugal gained independence from Spain in the Battle of Montes Claros
1717 -- Handel's Water Music premiered
1902 -- Willis Carrier built the first air conditioner
1918 -- Tsar Nicholas II, his immediate family, and retainers were executed by Chekists
1936 -- The Spanish Civil War started
1944 -- Two ships laden with ammunition for the war exploded in Port Chicago, California, killing 320
1945 -- The Potsdam conference
1962 -- The last US atmospheric nuclear weapons test.
1975 -- First Apollo--Soyuz orbital docking
1976 -- Indonesia annexed East Timor
1979 – Nicaraguan dictator General Anastasio Somoza Debayle resigned and fled the country
1998 -- The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court was adopted by many non-US countries
2014 -- Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was shot down
Some people who were born on this day:
Scientific progress is the discovery of a more and more comprehensive simplicity... The previous successes give us confidence in the future of science: we become more and more conscious of the fact that the universe is cognizable.
~~ Georges Lemaitre
1698 -- Pierre Louis Maupertuis, mathematician, invented the principle of least action
1839 – Ephraim Shay, engineer, invented the Shay locomotive
1889 -- Erle Stanley Gardner, attorney and author
1894 -- Georges Lemaitre, astronomer and physicist, developed Hubble's Law.
1901 – Luigi Chinetti, race car driver and much, much more
1911 – Lionel Ferbos, trumpet player
1921 – George Barnes, guitarist, producer, and songwriter
1921 – Mary Osborne, guitarist
1923 – John Cooper, car designer, co-founded the Cooper Car Company
1925 – Jimmy Scott, singer and actor
1928 -- Vince Guaraldi, pianist, singer, and songwriter
1935 -- Diahann Carroll, actress and singer
1935 -- Peter Schickele, composer, educator renowned expert on PDQ Bach
1939 -- Spencer Davis, singer, songwrite and guitarist
1942 – Gale Garnett, singer
1942 -- Zoot Money, singer, songwriter and keyboard player
1949 -- Geezer Butler, bassist and songwriter
1950 – Phoebe Snow, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1952 – Nicolette Larson, singer and songwriter
1954 -- Angela Merkel, chemist and politician
1966 – Lou Barlow, guitarist and songwriter
1971 -- Cory Doctorow, author, activist and happy mutant
Some people who died on this day:
“Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality instituted for the defense of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all.”
~~ Adam Smith
1790 -- Adam Smith, quack and schemer, robber with an invisible hand
1793 -- Charlotte Corday, killed Marat
1887 -- Dorothea Dix, nurse and activist
1912 -- Henri Poincare, mathematician, physisict, engineer
1918 -- Assorted Romanovs
1935 -- George William Russell, poet, painter and Irish Nationalist
1950 -- Evangeline Booth, first female General of the Salvation Army
1959 -- Billie Holiday, singer
1967 -- John Coltrane, saxophonist
1995 -- Juan Manuel Fangio, race car driver extraordinaire
1996 -- Chas Chandler, bassist
2003 – Rosalyn Tureck, pianist and harpsichord player
2006 -- Sam Myers, drummer, vocalist, harp player, songwriter
2006 -- Mickey Spillane, author
2009 -- Walter Cronkite, journallist
2013 – Peter Appleyard, vibraphone player and composer
2015 – John Taylor, pianist and educator
Some Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:
World Day for International Justice
(fer sure, fer sure)
Today's Tunes
Handel's Water Music
Spanish Civil War mit banjo and bodhran, no less
Lionel Ferbos
Mary Osborne
Vince Guaraldi
Diahann Carroll
Peter Schickele conducts the Schleptet in Eb Major. Click on More to see the movements
Spencer Davis, who wandered into his local and found a 15 year old kid play1ng keyboards and singing
Gale Garnett
Zoot Money
Geezer Butler
Adam Smith
Evangeline Booth - "That's General Booth to you folk, got it?
Billie Holiday
John Coltrane
Chas Chandler
Sam Meyers
Peter Applewood
Bonus Billie
A brief bit of Beethoven
Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. So what's on your mind?
Cross posted from http://caucus99percent.com
Open Thread, Handel, Spanish Civil War, Strange Fruit, Adam Smith, Sam Meyers, Fourth Crusade, Coltrane
Comments
The International Criminal Court (ICC)
Is the closest form of international justice there is.
per. wiki --
Green - State party
Yellow - Signatory that has not ratified
Purple - State party that subsequently withdrew its membership
Orange - Signatory that subsequently withdrew its signature
Red - Not a state party, not a signatory
That is, as you know, very sad commentary on
the state of things.
We won't go along with it for the stated reason that it could or would be used politically against us. The truth is that we know that we have very bloody hands and a vast horde of war criminals, starting with Pick-A-President and then many from state, defense, the CIA,the DoD/military. etc.
thanks for reading and for the great map.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
If today is justice day....
...then all the others are injustice days? That seems about right. You know liberty and justice for some.
Just harvested lots and lots of tomatoes. Now on to processing...probably into sauce to use lots of them.
Still fighting Jap Beetles. After being gone several days they were on many of our fruit trees. I use a small bucket of soapy water and knock them into it. Kinda like trying to drain the ocean with a bucket, but it gives my trees a break. Odd how their population comes and goes. We were covered with them 15-20 years ago, then almost none, and now back with a vengeance... area wide.
Also pulled my cow pea cover crop. Happy to see the roots full of rhizobium nodules. Left them lying in the bed as a green manure mulch.
Well back to the mater processing. Have a good day all. Thanks for the OT and music el.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I fear that you have got that very much correct.
Envy your tomatoes, our's aren't close to ripe yet. Good luck with the beetles
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
But injustice doesn't come to people
It's perpetrated by specific individuals with names and addresses.
"the Democratic Party is not 'left'." -- Sabrina Salvati
Generally, unless one believes in a beneficent
divinity and ergo expects good deeds to be rewarded.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
fugitive of justice
Hazmat train derails outside Philadelphia
Sure, and the fed is going to eventually jump all over it, covering CSX tracks.
.. has spurred states – including Pennsylvania, Ohio, Minnesota and Kansas –
to adopt or at least consider long-overdue rail safety legislation.
Don't hold your breath for action on this, unless you live by the RR tracks.
https://www.rt.com/news/579853-csx-train-derails-pennsylvania/
Uh, huh. This is the moment when a corporation stops
being a person, but becomes an un-punishable shield for the guilty.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
There is no justice possible for many things
if by justice it's meant to make good for wrong doing. In money or business, sure, but not for most forms of criminality. If one puts out someone else's eyes, and they in turn are blinded by a judge, the first guy is still blind, similarly for murder etc.
The international criminal court is far from perfect, but much better than nothing. Ukraine will never have the east side of it's country the way it was, all those old towns destroyed, the lives lost, the children stolen. What would be nice would be for Putin to live out his life incarcerated. It would serve as a deterrent for future dictators also.
Unfortunately, Ukraine destroyed a plethora of those
towns itself. Since Putin is not a true dictator, his punishment would not deter any, anymore that it would deter warmongers of every stripe.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@enhydra lutris We should have done a
We should have done a lot more with the first place he pulled these stunts, Georgia or Chechnya or whatever. Guys like him keep doing the same old until they are stopped. Usually later is a lot worse than earlier.
Maybe we could learn to stop provoking this type of thing
by staging coups and color revolutions waging proxy wars on civilian populations and such, but Nah, we couldn't get control off the whole world if we stopped, not that we'll succeed in doing so if we keep it up, but it keeps the defense industry happy
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
If you want to hurt Putin...
... sue for peace. The war helps Putin.
"the Democratic Party is not 'left'." -- Sabrina Salvati
Under the circumstances, I think a suit for Peace
... is the next logical step as an alternative to active warfare. This is what in the West is usually called “negotiation.” According to Dmitry Orlov, who is covering the war from inside Russia, any Peace talks would involve "acceding to Russian demands made in November of 2021 (which include NATO rolling back its weapons to where they were in 1997), plus more recent requirements, such as denazification, demilitarization and neutrality for what remains of the Ukraine, recognition of Russia’s new borders (which include Crimea, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Donetsk and Lugansk regions) and prosecution for all of the Ukrainian war criminals, including all the ones that have been torturing prisoners of war and shelling civilians since 2014. Oh, and the lifting of all the insipid sanctions would be required as well."
Orlov believes — given the failure of relentlessly propagandized Western weaponry, the increasingly dire state of Western finances, the ridiculous failure of anti-Russian sanctions, the obscenely huge numbers of Ukrainian casualties, and the general Western fatigue with all things Ukrainian and especially with the flood of Ukrainian refugees that the West can no longer cope with — within less than a year, NATO will come to the table to talk Peace.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Yes, that's the reasonable approach.
But the neocons in charge don't believe that, and so they think they can drag out the war further with no consequences. And the longer they drag out this war, the worse will be the consequences of the forthcoming peace, for the US and for Europe.
But hey, say the official propaganda sources, we hate Putin, so let's make him stronger.
"the Democratic Party is not 'left'." -- Sabrina Salvati
@Pluto's Republic @on the cusp Knowing which
Knowing which cases to take and which ones to turn down is a useful skill. Be safe.
But you never know.
What looks simple and easy, as the case was today, turned out dangerous.
I am just thinking back over 37 years, can recall 12 times my life was in danger. That is just what I can recall at the moment. I know there are more. I have hidden out for 3 days while the Feds caught the perp. And that was before internet and cell phones was/were common.
My goal was to hang around for 40 years. After today, after my husband spent the afternoon monitoring the office, AGAIN, and monitoring the movements of the nut cases, enough is enough.
He and I deserve peace, tranquility, as do all people, in all countries.
The fight over $ should be at the gambling table, or the bank, not the battlefield, nor at my law office.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good evening otc. You most definitely do deserve peace
and tranquility, hope you get a steady supply soon.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
This
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
@Cassiodorus I could care less about
I could care less about hurting the guy, just put him away where he can't start wars.
If you don't attack people, they generally don't shoot back.
The US has yet to figure this out, and the ball is in their court, as the globe's prime aggressor.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Will there ever be justice for the people of Vietnam
....or the people of Laos?
The geopolitical rationales for these U.S. military conflicts were a complete fiction that covered up a defense-industry bonanza. For instance, between 1964 and 1973, the U.S. dropped more than 2.5 million tons of bombs on Laos during 580,000 bombing sorties — equal to a planeload of bombs every eight minutes, 24 hours a day, for nine years. What was the legal or geopolitical rationale of the U.S. for this carnage? Nobody can even remember if there ever was one. But those bombs were about to expire and needed to be used up and reordered to keep the money flowing. So, a terrible injustice befell the people of Laos, who suffered and died for the sake of US defense industry profits.
Let this be the next injustice to be rectified at the International Court. Justice has been delayed for too long.
I'd like to hear the US explain its actions.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
@Pluto's Republic Ever been to Laos?. I
Ever been to Laos?. I've lived there, speak the language, family on both sides. One place you can go in the world, tell them you are American, and you are made very welcome. Former combatants are especially gracious.
Ban Nock means a person from the countryside, rural, bumpkin.
I went there on a tour.
I was told do not go off designated roads, as I could be killed by unexploded bombs. My veterinarian pal from Houston lives in Thailand, often goes to Laos to put prosthetic legs on elephants. That is his specialty.
Cluster bombs.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
@on the cusp I think your tour
I think your tour guide exaggerated. Last year from memory there were 6 killed from all UXO, four of them while trying to defuse a large bomb, 20 some odd injured. The plain of jars is a common tourist destination and it has land mines.
I had 3 hectares on the Boloven Plateau and went over to Sekong, Attapeu, and Salavan provinces where most bombs were dropped to disrupt the Ho Chi Minh trail. I've spent a lot of time hiking in Luang Namtha, Phongsali, Bokeo, Luang Prabang, and Paksan provinces. It's simply not an issue.
The danger in Laos is from the land mines the Lao government laid trying to deny real estate to the Hmong after the end of the war, they were still fighting in 08
Elephant prosthetic? In Thailand I found one online, in Laos I think they'd simply shoot the thing.
I wasn't sure if you were joking with your response, still not sure.
Not joking.
Dr. Timothy Harkness. He teaches at the University in Bankok.
Once the chief vet for Houston Humane Society, a Viet Nam Vet, and he is certified to do any animal surgery on any animal on any body part.
I got the same lecture about walking in the wild in Cambodia.
I always add a snark tag if I am joking.
Not joking here: You walk at least 50 feet ahead of me anywhere off the beaten path in Laos. Ok?
And research elephant prosthetic legs before you roll your eyes.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I will start with something humorous then get a bit more serious
I have yet to see confirmed but it seems possible.
There is no doubt that this will happen!
I feel the same way
Shitlibs are very gleeful about the bridge attack and want the rest of it blown up. I see a tweet about being glad about it and it has 10,000 likes. I guess the world has forgotten the lessons of what happened during WW2. Then it was the Jews who were bad. Now it’s the Russians. They even cheer stories of Ukraine troops torturing Russian POWs.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Monday Monday
La da da, la da da,
Hi all, Hey EL! Hope it's all good out there!
I liked one I can't exactly recall that went something to the effect of: An injustice to one is an injustice to all. It said nothing about social stratum class differences as I recall.
Behind Chas Chandler, you could say, bassist that quit a huge top-selling hit band the Animals, to manage some unknown guitarist.
I think the trial at the ICC for MH 17 proved they were a Kabuki Kangaroo Kourt. They ignored all evidence that did not fit with the predetermined conclusions they wanted. It ranged from bad science to a joke, and certainly no justice was served. It was just kabuki to blame Russia. Where are the satellite evidence photos John Kerry said we had that then the U.S. refused to produce? My guess is they proved it was the Ukranians that shot MH 17 down and that is why they were never released or given to the court as evidence. There were a couple excellent websites that debunked the MH 17 ICC arguments and conclusions very technically and skillfully. Of course da wiki was not one of them.
Here we are in the hundred degree days doldrums. The hill country of central Texas, generally the Edwards Plateau, was famous not just for being the breeding range of the Golden-cheeked Warbler, but for staying a few to several deg.F cooler than most of the state in the summer, often low, maybe mid-90's in hot spells. I would say for about 10 years now, the daily highs average 5-10F above what they were 20 years ago, often low hundreds. Lows are up too of course. Rainfall has decreased from 30" per year to 20". You might not believe this, but the climate has changed, and drastically in two decades. It seems to be gathering speed, should I be worried?
Damn them and have fun ones all!
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Dysto,
we are going to Albert Hall in a week or so. What we face at the cottage in Hye, TX, will be no worse, maybe better, than the heat we have here in east Texas.
The temp on my front porch, where I sit and watch the bird feeder and bath, was 106 Deg. yesterday.
It's bad.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Who left the oven door open?
Hi OtC. YIKES!! Your humidity is way worse than ours way out west at 100W. I see a lot of 102 at the local Weather Underground stations, but our front porch is often a couple deg.F cooler. Still brutal, the birds are panting and so am I.
Going to Albert Hall? I thought that was in London? Isn't that where the Beatles said 'nobody knows how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall?
(A Day in the Life)
I saw and meant to get back to you on LO's WW... Very cool you had young Bluebirds at your bath! Usually it is all one family group together. Our drought here has most recent broods at two birds, for a few years now. We have a box up they use in the yard. I have seen bluebird take both Scorpion and Centipede as prey items. Those cuties. They can really get after a nice juicy arthropod. I love that white-spotted juvenile plumage. It is really neat looking. And they only have that a month or two at most of their lives. Then they molt into 'first winter' plumage. The first set of feathers is just sturdy enough to last a couple months with a lot of songbirds. So by the first fall they are in a new set, and often more adult like in appearance. But those spotted juvies are really neat looking if you ask me.
I love all the bluebird sounds too. Bluebirds are thrushes, hence the great voice.
Sorry about the bad clients! My bad ones just steal fish and corals (e.g. my money).
Play it safe.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
we've been hovering around 100 for days now, pretty
weird. But we keep our birds hydrated, which is about all we can do
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Of course. That what they are told to say.
So, what do you think, what is the best way to die
a through hunger
b.through heat
c.in combat of stupid wars
d through thirst
e.through murderous killers
forget it, dying would be best done in your bed.
Good night from my woods. An thanks to JtC to still hang in here. We owe you a lot.
The best way to die is from the excitement
of winning the Lotto.
Take care!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good evening, mimi. i vote for in bed,
part 2 is "doing what?".
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
International justice
is as elusive as national. Or state.
I am ready to just pack it in.
Today, a disgruntled client and her family, who do not like that pesky law that keeps their Mom's house under the control of their hated step dad until he dies, and then they can take possession of it under the terms of the will, caused them to come into my office, raise hell, and I had to call 911. They attempted to file charges on me from kicking them off my property at both the sheriff's office, and the prosecutor's office. They drove back and forth by my office, screaming, so I shut it down hours early. Later, an attorney pal called. I did a probate of an estate, it is leading to suing an alleged neighbor for fraud on the estate. That went to a civil litigator. Well, tonight he called, said it was not only a fraud on land title, but the family discovered theft of heavy equipment, maybe $100k worth of personal property.
Death threats abound. Over and over. The most dangerous type of case on the books is probate.
I am pretty much done. Not happy that Dear One spent hours following them to make sure they didn't harm me or my secretary.
I should retire.
Be well, EL.
Be glad you aren't an attorney.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good evening otc. Horribly day and horrible times. You
two be vigilant and take great care of yourselves. One of the best decisions I made was not to go into law, a friend of my elder brother's, who had done so, talked me out of it, and I've been mostly glad ever since. Veeeeery long story.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I was in Laos
I was in Laos over six weeks, accompanying wife of my former husband. As he was sent there on a mission from the IMF, he had to deal with the other members of the mission (one was a hysterical Indian), we had to stay in the hotel there for the whole period. My son got his first guitar there (he was around ten years old) and that saved him to stay sane. It was an awful mission and I don't remember what I did. But we saw Vientiane, which was good. But otherwise we felt imprisoned in that hotel. And I remember having some fun with our communist hosts with whom we drank and laughed a lot cheering on the communist brotherhood.
My memories are fading theough.
good morning mimi.
it would seem to me that this is the key:
getting along and having fun is a good thing. Even as details and memories fade, there is still the knowledge that you once did it.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --